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    Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    In my personal opinion people who want an off-roadable vehicle should by a Jeep.
    Yet, crossovers dominate new car sales in the United States because they look off-roadable.
    So what happens when you take a popular crossover vehicle, like the Hyundai Kona, on a dirt trail?




    Dave "Crazy Legs" Erickson takes up the challenge from his online fans to find out if a "cute ute" like the Kona can make the grade!

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Dave looks like a former college athlete or similar. Calves like that are not usually produced from simple fitness exercise.

    His initial bifurcation was confusing. I thought for a moment there was a twin and a gimmick or something. And then I wondered if they would fuck, and I don't even WATCH any twin porn. Sheesh.

    On the off-road question, I don't know anyone who takes that seriously. any vehicle that doesn't have at least a foot of clearance before there is any trim or chassis vulnerable to ground strikes is not an off-road vehicle. Just look at the vehicle in the profile shot at 1:00. It is anything BUT an off-roader. The body of the car is only about 6-8 inches off the ground. Going even on a logging road, much less truly off-road (which he didn't, he merely went on a dirt road) would surely smash up the body as well as damage exhaust system or other components beneath.

    And, look at the wheels. What a crock. You can't even hit potholes in the city without denting or cracking the rims on the low profile tires like that, so what would you do hitting rocks and such in an off-road scenario.

    This whole marketing thing of letting city folk pretend they are some kind of rugged outdoorsmen is amusing. Why don't they just get the Daktari paint job and carry an elephant gun?


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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Wow, haven't thought about "Daktari" in ages! As a kid I was a fan of Marshall Thompson.




    For true off-roading many TV shows used Land Rovers and/or Jeeps exclusively.
    Sure is great to know a few guys still remember the old Jeep J-Series pickup:

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    I truly wish I had your interests in cars. I might be able to add something to your threads. Unfortunately, my identity of a vehicle would be it's colour. I'm pretty good a colour.
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    SUV/Crossovers are HUGE in Canada as well, Kona is a big seller. But the vehicle's purpose is for us suburbanites to get around more easily in snow. That test drive was pointless
    considering what the vehicle is meant to do. And I won't even start on the reviewer.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    I truly wish I had your interests in cars. I might be able to add something to your threads. Unfortunately, my identity of a vehicle would be it's colour. I'm pretty good a colour.
    Me too. I figure if it has wheels and it doesn't fly or float then it's probably a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peloso View Post
    Me too. I figure if it has wheels and it doesn't fly or float then it's probably a car.
    I'm pretty good at identifying chariots and baby carriages, too.
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    I'm pretty good at identifying chariots and baby carriages, too.


    There's a difference?!?

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    ^ If it has 2 wheels, it's probably a chariot... or a bicycle.

    Seriously, though, it's always amazed me that some people can look at a car and not only tell you the brand, but the name, the engine size, the horsepower and all that stuff. About the only car I could recognise was a Studebaker Lark because that's the car I learned how to drive in.
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    I don't have the car gene either. My first car was a used VW bug because it was dirt cheap and got me from here to there. I can identify the make and model if I owned it once or knew someone who had one.

    I was a terribly neglectful car owner. Too much trouble. Cars should come with a little elf who lives in the trunk and does all the necessary maintenance.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddMarkStarr View Post
    Wow, haven't thought about "Daktari" in ages! As a kid I was a fan of Marshall Thompson.
    We loved it. It was a staple of our viewing when I was a boy.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    I miss my Wrangler

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    I truly wish I had your interests in cars. I might be able to add something to your threads. Unfortunately, my identity of a vehicle would be it's colour. I'm pretty good a colour.



    Hey gsdx - have you ever seen the "Paisley Roof" Chryslers from the 60's sporting the optional "Mod Top" vinyl roof, available with a matching interior?




    When I was a kid these crazy Chryslers were a sight to behold - Chrysler Corporation wanted to be groovy baby!




    The floral patterned tops were exclusives to Dodge while the Paisley prints were for Plymouths.




    These crazy paisleys are highly sought after by collectors today, restoration is not easy!





    The last model I ever saw with a Mod Top was the 1971 Plymouth Gran Coupe.




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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    I enjoyed the video. It is true that it doesn't have enough bottom clearance to be a truly off-road car, but it is impressive anyways. I even liked the guys.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddMarkStarr View Post
    Hey gsdx - have you ever seen the "Paisley Roof" Chryslers from the 60's sporting the optional "Mod Top" vinyl roof, available with a matching interior?


    The last model I ever saw with a Mod Top was the 1971 Plymouth Gran Coupe.
    I drove a 1970 AMC Hornet, for crying out loud, but I never saw a car with paisley detail, not even custom.

    Those must have been more rare than hens' teeth, even when they were all still on the road.



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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddMarkStarr View Post
    I once had a shirt with Paisleys like this except that they were blue Paisleys on black.

    Never saw floral roofs, either. The hippies must have loved those cars. Flower Power and all that, you know. Peace, love, and little doughnuts, my friend.
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Even for most Mall-crawlers the extent of "off road" they are used for is parking in a field at the county fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    I once had a shirt with Paisleys like this except that they were blue Paisleys on black.

    Never saw floral roofs, either. The hippies must have loved those cars. Flower Power and all that, you know. Peace, love, and little doughnuts, my friend.
    Because only three hippies ever had enough money to buy a new car.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    The best selling crossover is the Honda CR-V, and like the Kona these vehicles use styling to attract buyers.



    Front overhang and not enough ground clearance means the Kona is about looks.
    Hyundai gets a lot of power outta that 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engine, just stick to streets and highways, imho.
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    I drove a 1970 AMC Hornet, for crying out loud, but I never saw a car with paisley detail, not even custom.

    Those must have been more rare than hens' teeth, even when they were all still on the road.

    Norfolk, Virginia was my hometown and the largest navy base on the east coast. Navy men were car crazy and had money.
    In many cases I got to see cars that were rare in other parts of the country. Chrysler was king around the navy base.



    Navy guys were all about Mopar muscle and would gladly shutdown Chevys and Fords.
    The sight of a Mod Top Plymouth 383 street racing a Chevelle 396 was an absolute riot!
    Not many of those survive today!
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    You meant Honda and not Hyundai, right?

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Isn't that pic of a Honda HR-V not the Honda CR-V you mentioned as a best seller?

    Though the HR-V is a direct rival to the Hyundai Kona in the subcompact class,
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddMarkStarr View Post
    The best selling crossover is the Honda CR-V, and like the Kona these vehicles use styling to attract buyers.



    Front overhang and not enough ground clearance means the Kona is about looks.
    Hyundai gets a lot of power outta that 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engine, just stick to streets and highways, imho.


    My fault - I should have included a pic of the Honda!





    The CR-V is the top seller being roomier than the HR-V.
    Looks aside, I personally would not take any of these vehicles off-road.
    Btw, I test drove a CR-V. Very solid and quiet with a comfortable ride.



    Now tell me, who would take an electric vehicle off-roading?

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Car and Drivers final totals for 2018 showed the Toyota RAV4 ahead of the CR-V on the sales list.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddMarkStarr View Post
    Now tell me, who would take an electric vehicle off-roading?

    Fools! The bears would set upon them in no time. It's a proven scientific fact that bears cannot resist those galvanizing electric waves.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariobear View Post
    Car and Drivers final totals for 2018 showed the Toyota RAV4 ahead of the CR-V on the sales list.
    That's interesting. But it's not much surprise that they are neck and neck. The Southpark lampoon of the "Toyonda" dealership is absolutely true.


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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    SUVs are NOT about off roading! Sports Car fanatics try and lump all suvs as off road vehicles and make fun of them, while off roader try and lump all car as sports cars and make fun of those. I consider myself something of a car guy, and I drive n SUV. A Hyundai, even (Santa Fe). It's not because I am going to take it off road - stuff like they show in the video most cars can do with the right tires and driving skills. I like SUVs because of the little extra clearance for snow and potholes, for the ride height and better viewing angles, and for the roominess. Go back to the early cars and SUVs are little different in dimensions.
    Am I being too rhetorical?

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariobear View Post
    Car and Drivers final totals for 2018 showed the Toyota RAV4 ahead of the CR-V on the sales list.

    That's great to know because the most impressive vehicle I've accessed through Uber was a 2018 Toyota RAV4.
    Solid, quiet and a comfortable ride - that 2018 RAV4 really surprised me. What an awesome commuter vehicle!
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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    We have a few beaches around here that you need a 4 wheeler to get to. There is always someone with a "cute ute" that gets stuck in the sand and needs rescue. I have a jeep and some off the guys that are stuck are cute...

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mark1111 View Post
    We have a few beaches around here that you need a 4 wheeler to get to. There is always someone with a "cute ute" that gets stuck in the sand and needs rescue. I have a jeep and some off the guys that are stuck are cute...


    Better run for it, mark1111 - the new T-Roc is headed this way!

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    So its coming to North America after all?

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    I like it. think they are going for the sports car of the utes rather than off road ute. wouldn't take it to the beach though.

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    Re: Can you off-road a "cute ute"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontariobear View Post
    So its coming to North America after all?


    Hey Volkswagen - T-Cross or T-Roc?

    The answer keeps changing. If it was up to me I'd say bring both models to the USA.

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