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    I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Most people associate hunger with the feeling of wanting/yearning to eat. Apparently, if you do enough research you will find that these two human processes can be made independent of each other.

    I've been doing one meal a day for 4 days a week for the last 5 months now. My health has never been better. I'm finding myself having more energy than ever before. And I'm finally burning off my visceral fat.

    But the biggest result from such force of will power is I'm finding myself not feeling the need to eat even when I'm extremely hungry. This is completely new to me. It has come to me gradually enough so that I haven't consciously noticed it until this past week. I'm finding myself feeling very hungry at times. But then I would look at food that I normally would crave and realize that I have no need to eat it. I've even experimented stopping eating half way through and again I don't feel the need to keep eating.

    I used to love kfc. Nowadays, I have no more craving for it. I just bought some today to eat and I found myself not getting the satisfaction that I used to get from eating it.

    I think I've finally rid myself of food addiction. Woo-hoo!
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Are you eating micro meals between the one-meal-per-day?

    All the fitness and health gurus say to eat little snacks at several points through the day.

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    Are you eating micro meals between the one-meal-per-day?

    All the fitness and health gurus say to eat little snacks at several points through the day.
    No. That is outdated information. One meal a day means nothing until the one meal day.

    The problem with eating snacks is you keep your insulin level up, which causes your hunger level to stay up and fat storage mechanism to keep going. Over long term, this causes many people to end up over eating due to constant hunger.

    Many health experts nowadays believe this misinformation contributed hugely to the obesity epidemic.

    Edit.

    Also, another side-effect of constantly keeping your insulin level up with the micro meals is insulin blocks the brain's reading of leptin, the hormone that tells your brain you're full. Hence, fat people tend to over eat because their insulin levels are always high and they don't get the satisfaction feeling from being full so they keep on eating.

    Remember back when we were suppose to eat a lot of carb but now we know carb makes you fat? Why does carb make you fat? Because carb causes a huge spike in insulin level, causing you to feel hungry a lot more often, which then makes you eat and eat and eat throughout the day.
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    I dunno. I know lots of skinny health geeks, and they are snacking on nuts and berries and crackers and whatnot all day. They eat little, which in theory keeps them from overeating when they finally have a meal.

    Many are runners or cyclists.

    And we all know people who lost weight on Atkins, but no one could argue it's healthy.

    But, I'm glad you are feeling better as you get narrower.
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    I dunno. I know lots of skinny health geeks, and they are snacking on nuts and berries and crackers and whatnot all day. They eat little, which in theory keeps them from overeating when they finally have a meal.

    Many are runners or cyclists.

    And we all know people who lost weight on Atkins, but no one could argue it's healthy.

    But, I'm glad you are feeling better as you get narrower.
    You said so yourself. They eat little and they are active. Exercise helps the body regulate the various hormones that cause weight gain and weight loss.

    Let's look at it this way. The food pyramid, which encouraged people to load up on carbs and less meat and fat, was introduced in the 70s. The advice to snack all day long also was introduced at about the same time. And the obesity epidemic took a spike.

    Also, what I'm doing is not the Atkins diet at all. Where did you get that idea?

    Atkins came up with his diet because he had an appetite for foods like steak and bacon. What I'm doing is train my mind to be in control of what and how much I eat instead of continuing to be a slave to the biological impulses of indulging on foods for pleasure.
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Sounds fucked up to me, but as long as it works for you.

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Sounds like quack science to me. You need your insulin levels balanced throughout the day. You can't do that with one meal. My nutritionist has me on 5 small meals everyday, with minimal processed foods. It's processed foods and high sugar drinks that is making the world fat and giving everyone diabetes.

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    You'll be dead soon with that diet.

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by aristomaniac View Post
    You said so yourself. They eat little and they are active. Exercise helps the body regulate the various hormones that cause weight gain and weight loss.
    My point being is that healthy people ARE eating micro meals and staying thin and eating less. Your previous reply suggested doing so would make their appetites increase and lead to overeating.

    Let's look at it this way. The food pyramid, which encouraged people to load up on carbs and less meat and fat, was introduced in the 70s. The advice to snack all day long also was introduced at about the same time. And the obesity epidemic took a spike.
    That's mixing things. The snacking I'm talking about was introduced much more recently and encouraged in lieu of larger traditional meals, not as supplements.

    Also, what I'm doing is not the Atkins diet at all. Where did you get that idea?
    I didn't. I posited by comparison that you were citing your success with your diet, but so did the Atkins folks, and most people didn't believe it to be healthy.

    Atkins came up with his diet because he had an appetite for foods like steak and bacon. What I'm doing is train my mind to be in control of what and how much I eat instead of continuing to be a slave to the biological impulses of indulging on foods for pleasure.
    No, the Atkins diet was developed based on the observation of Pennington at DuPont during WWII, later adopted by Dr. Atkins. It was based on the knowledge that the metabolism works differently to burn or store fat based on diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    My point being is that healthy people ARE eating micro meals and staying thin and eating less. Your previous reply suggested doing so would make their appetites increase and lead to overeating.
    Forgive me for not being more clear last time. I had worked overnight and was half asleep with my phone. I finally got approval from the DOT to shut down an interstate to do last minute stuff before winter shut down. So, I sent all my guys home early and had them come back at 10pm. And since I did not want to have to go out again, I directed the operation myself.

    Anyway, what I was getting at was eating a bunch of micro meals a day work wonderfully for already thin and active people. But it doesn't work all that well for people who are overweight or people who are insulin resistant. I was both.

    Think of it this way. I go to the gym 5 days a week, and one thing I have noticed that every other gym regular has noticed is there just aren't that many fat people at the gym. Why? Because most gym atmospheres are designed for already fit people.


    That's mixing things. The snacking I'm talking about was introduced much more recently and encouraged in lieu of larger traditional meals, not as supplements.
    I already tried that. Never worked for me.


    I didn't. I posited by comparison that you were citing your success with your diet, but so did the Atkins folks, and most people didn't believe it to be healthy.
    Point taken. Here is why I went on one meal a day.

    Over the years on here, I have shared with you guys that I was diagnosed with a severe form of auto-immunity disorder when I was a teen, suffered from high cholesterol in my early twenties, got diabetes in my late 20s, severe form of IBS, lactose intolerant, became the first member of my extended family to have lost my hair, and suffered several other health problems. You'd think that I was severely overweight or obese. In fact, at 5'8", I topped out at 190 lb. A little overweight but not obese.

    Over the years, I've been to many specialists. Most just wanted to treat my symptoms and prescribed me medication instead of trying to look for the root cause of my problems. Then I started going to nutritionists and several different clinics. None of them worked. Some made things worse. And trust me, I tried everything out there. Low calorie diet, snacking all day, atkins diet, starch based diet, vegetarian diet, etc. I tried them all.

    I finally got sick of having to keep taking medication to treat my symptoms.

    About this time last year, I began to notice this thing called "fasting". I brought it up with my doctors and they all reacted the same ways you guys reacted. It can't be healthy. Too radical. Etc.

    Earlier this year, I simply got tired of all the symptoms that I sometimes shared with you guys on here. Remember me mentioning explosive diarrhea? Remember when I told you I had diabetes and you didn't believe me? So, I took the plunge and went on a 3 day fast. Nothing but water. Eased off my symptoms quite a bit. So, from then on I started trying various kinds of fasting and the more I did it the better I felt about it.

    I can now eat cheese without taking a lactaid pill. Haven't had diarrhea for months. My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are way down into the healthy range. Triglycerides are way down. Diabetes is gone. I haven't had a single auto-immune attack for months. I used to go to the emergency room via ambulance for it! All test results came back great last month. For the first time in my life for as long as I could remember, I'm not having any health issue and I'm not having to take a bunch of prescriptions.

    And no, I'm not feeling weak, either. I still go to the gym and do heavy weight training 5 times a week. I currently weigh 162 lb and I bench 190-200 lb.

    No, the Atkins diet was developed based on the observation of Pennington at DuPont during WWII, later adopted by Dr. Atkins. It was based on the knowledge that the metabolism works differently to burn or store fat based on diet.
    At the time, he had weight problems. He also had an appetite. The conventional wisdom at the time was for him to go on a low calorie diet. His personal reason for exploring alternative diets was due to his appetite.

    Jump to 6:50 and watch to 7:10.



    One other thing about fasting. I normally hesitate to tell people about it because most people have the same reaction as you guys here. It can't be healthy. Why am I starving myself? Etc. Here are a few lectures on this subject if anyone is interested.





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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    One after thought. Have you guys any idea how annoying it was to constantly have diarrhea while I was going through the police academy for a para-military organization called the Illinois State Police?

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    My diet is i can eat as many times as i want but with limits.
    Such as don't eat too much and eat healthy food Only !!! (No sugar, no sweet, no cake ... etc)
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by aristomaniac View Post
    One after thought. Have you guys any idea how annoying it was to constantly have diarrhea while I was going through the police academy for a para-military organization called the Illinois State Police?
    It must have been shit for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac135 View Post
    It must have been shit for you.
    Here I always thought he was just full of shit

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    have you discussed all of this with your doctor?


    curious as to what his opinion is on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by johaninsc View Post
    have you discussed all of this with your doctor?


    curious as to what his opinion is on this
    Yes and no. Last time I brought it up, he reacted the same way you guys are reacting here. It can't be healthy. Oh, no, I'm starving myself. It is too radical. Blah blah blah. So, I simply stopped telling him about what I'm doing. So, from his perspective, I somehow have miraculously rid myself of all the health issues that many doctors have been treating me for since my teens.

    The mainstream medical establishment still considers fasting too radical and too dangerous. Just like how they used to insist homosexuality is a mental illness and needed treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aristomaniac View Post
    I finally got sick of having to keep taking medication to treat my symptoms.
    This. I see the same pattern in American medicine. It starts with one or two prescriptions, then I hear my friends saying they get more to deal with side effects of those. I won't follow that path.

    I can now eat cheese without taking a lactaid pill.
    This. There is something untold about lactose intolerance. I have had it for a decade, and it is highly inconsistent. Many times, it is not present at all. I never have any cramps or pain or problems with controlling gas, or I wouldn't eat milk products, but it does cause loose bowels at times, but not others.

    All test results came back great last month. For the first time in my life for as long as I could remember, I'm not having any health issue and I'm not having to take a bunch of prescriptions.

    And no, I'm not feeling weak, either. I still go to the gym and do heavy weight training 5 times a week. I currently weigh 162 lb and I bench 190-200 lb.
    Well, the only fair measure of any health regimen is the results. Is the individual seeing improved vital statistics without some incurred high risk in some latent area? You're seeing a doctor, so it sounds like you are indeed healthy if your measurements and blood work all indicates so. Congratulations on ridding your body of the symptoms that had plagued you. I'm also glad you are feeling good.

    Jump to 6:50 and watch to 7:10.
    I watched. Conceded. The other videos take hours to watch. I may not be able to take the accent of the first guy for that long, but will attempt to listen over the next week to these.

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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    This. I see the same pattern in American medicine. It starts with one or two prescriptions, then I hear my friends saying they get more to deal with side effects of those. I won't follow that path.
    To me, too many doctors want to just treat the symptoms rather than look for a root cause. I've gone through a lot of doctors over the years. Unfortunately, there's no clinic around here that isn't conventional for me to go to, and seeking out one that's farther away is too much of a disruption to my life. And no, before anyone asks, I still don't believe in those quackery called homeopath stuff. I know when people are desperate enough, they'll start seeking out non-conventional methods. To me, after having searched for almost 20 years, I've found something that actually works for me.


    This. There is something untold about lactose intolerance. I have had it for a decade, and it is highly inconsistent. Many times, it is not present at all. I never have any cramps or pain or problems with controlling gas, or I wouldn't eat milk products, but it does cause loose bowels at times, but not others.
    I've been lactose intolerant since my teens. I've always thought this was my reality. Then last month, I went out to dinner with my husband and completely forgot to bring my lactaid pills. Had some cheese fully ready to face the consequences that night. But nothing. So, I started experimenting by eating more cheese-rich foods, like pizza. Still nothing. Somehow, intermittent fasting has cured my lactose intolerance. Too bad my doctors aren't open-minded enough about it, because I'd like to know what happened. Anyway, being able to eat dairy products is an unintended bonus to what I'm doing.


    Well, the only fair measure of any health regimen is the results. Is the individual seeing improved vital statistics without some incurred high risk in some latent area? You're seeing a doctor, so it sounds like you are indeed healthy if your measurements and blood work all indicates so. Congratulations on ridding your body of the symptoms that had plagued you. I'm also glad you are feeling good.
    My sister, in her 40s, is now starting to get the same symptoms as I'd been having since my teens. She went to a referred specialist and they told her to eat a bunch of micro-meals throughout the day, exactly what you guys said earlier in the thread. Last time we talked, she told me the symptoms have gotten worse. I told her about what I've been doing any I am now symptom-free. She went to her doctors to ask them and they were horrified. Told her not to go anywhere near that and to keep eating a bunch of micro-meals. So, for now she's going with what they say. She hasn't been facing these issues for as long as I have, so she's not in desperation mode yet. I told her just know that I've been through all of that. None of the conventional methods worked for me. I'll wait until she's been through the path I'd been through and then I'll bring it up again to her. For now, she's not ready to go against her doctors' advice.


    I watched. Conceded. The other videos take hours to watch. I may not be able to take the accent of the first guy for that long, but will attempt to listen over the next week to these.
    Haha, I love that accent. In fact, I've watched that video just to listen to the accent. There is something hypnotic about that accent and the way he talked.

    That's Alec Burton, considered to be a pioneer in this field. The conventional medical establishment banned him from treating people, though. Unfortunately, he's no longer on this earth with us.

    Here is one last point to consider. What do they tell alcoholics at the rehab centers? To abstain from drinking or to drink less? To abstain! What do they tell drug addicts to do? To abstain from taking drugs or to take less drugs? To abstain! And yet, to people who are 700 pounds and are severely addicted to food, the conventional medical practice is to tell them to eat less. And they wonder why it doesn't work.
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    As a someone had had anorexia when I was younger, I worry about letting any diet take over your life. But that's my issue.

    If this works for you, I think it's great. Maybe just don't be totally rigid about it.
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    Re: I think I'm finally beating my food addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by roadtripboy View Post
    As a someone had had anorexia when I was younger, I worry about letting any diet take over your life. But that's my issue.

    If this works for you, I think it's great. Maybe just don't be totally rigid about it.
    Haha, I'm aware of the implications regarding anorexia. Trust me, I'm not going to go anywhere near there. Thanks for the concern

    Edit.

    Just to be clear, it is not a diet. It is a lifestyle. And it is not that radical if you think about it. I abstain from eating 18 hours a day, including sleep time. Then during the remaining 8 hours of the day, I eat a healthy meal and fruit snacks, like oranges, bananas, etc. I do this 4-5 days a week. After a while, it becomes a normal routine for me.
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