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    When Fascism Comes to America

    In the never ending saga of terrible people who are trying to create a theocracy in the US, there is this guy.



    Matt Shea, running for office in Washington, is now under investigation by the FBI for authoring a manifesto that basically calls for the killing of all those who don't agree with him. The directions are horrifyingly consistent the Christian Identity/Aryan Nations operating manual.



    This is the face of men who would seize the state in order to live out their nihilist Dominionist fantasies.

    So who wants to bet that he gets discovered with some guy's cock in his mouth?

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/washin...s-fbi-scrutiny

    oops. forgot to add one of the sources..but there are more.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Atleast this shows that at it's core Christianity is pretty much about as evil as Islam in it's application. The only reason why the West dosen't on the most part look like Islamic nations in their depravity is because we have separation of Church and State. However if Christianity was allowed to run the courts as it did in the past we wouldn't be far behind Islam in depravity. Again this is why I want to abolish all of the Abrahamic and Zoroastrian religions and return to Paganism.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariatenebre View Post
    we have separation of Church and State.
    You're SUPPOSED to have separation of Church and State. You don't.

    Separation of Church and State is a devout Catholic politician saying, "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation," and another devout Catholic politician who defies even the Pope and pushes through same-sex legislation because 'it is the right thing to do' for the country.

    The current American government denies rights to its citizens and shuts down all the 'right things to do' because, to the government, 'it is their right thing to do'. The country has 'Freedom of Religion', as long as it's Christianity.
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariatenebre View Post
    The only reason why the West dosen't on the most part look like Islamic nations in their depravity is because we have separation of Church and State.
    Since when? The only reason the theocracy of the west is not acknowledged as in Islam is because our religion has a white face ergo we use soft language to use their tyrannical attempts to control every movement we make.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    ^ Indeed:

    On US currency - 'In God We Trust'.
    In US Pledge of Allegiance - 'One nation under God'. (And don't forget the 'with liberty and justice for ALL' bit, except with this government it's more like, 'with liberty and justice for all except those of you who aren't straight, white, and Christian like we are'.)

    You can't claim 'all' while constantly pointing out those who are not included.
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    so the over 45 are not "able bodies" ?
    Think again .... they are smarter than the under 45
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Money for the poor solved everything

    Just look at Afghanistan or Somalia no money = bad
    just look at Japan or Switzerland got money = good
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by fabulouslyghetto View Post
    Since when? The only reason the theocracy of the west is not acknowledged as in Islam is because our religion has a white face ergo we use soft language to use their tyrannical attempts to control every movement we make.
    I never said that certain conservative Christian politicians do not want to bring theocracy to America. However the Founding Fathers wisely enshrined Separation of Church and State in the Constitution. Was it always enforced not always but we can thank Separation of Church and State why we have the freedom to believe or not believe in any religion we like, why we have freedom of speech including freedom of blasphemy, why we have relative women's equality now, why homosexuality and transsexuality are not illegal and why we aren't sentencing people to death for Witchcraft or Paganism. We aren't perfect but we are still miles above Islamic nations that are openly theocratic and base their laws on Sharia. In Sharia compliant Muslim nations things like Witchcraft, homosexuality, transgenderism etc are all punishable by death and you can not legally leave Islam or blaspheme it because again those things get the death penalty in Islam. Remember when you said that Mohammad was forgiving? Well the spirits of Abu Afaik, Asma Bint Marwan, the poetess Sarah would like to have a word with you as they were all executed because they dared criticize Mohammad. I am not saying that Separation of Church and state has always been enforced like it should but atleast it is there legally in spite of Christian attempts to overturn it.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Indeed:

    On US currency - 'In God We Trust'.
    In US Pledge of Allegiance - 'One nation under God'. (And don't forget the 'with liberty and justice for ALL' bit, except with this government it's more like, 'with liberty and justice for all except those of you who aren't straight, white, and Christian like we are'.)

    You can't claim 'all' while constantly pointing out those who are not included.
    And the One Nation Under God stuff was only put in the pledge and on money in the 50s as a reaction to Communism. Our actual motto is E Pluribus Unum.
    Last edited by Mariatenebre; November 6th, 2018 at 06:00 PM.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariatenebre View Post
    Our actual motto is E Pluribus Unum.
    I know that. I even know what it means without having to Google it. But that has nothing to do with the Christian God ruling the government and forcing an entire nation to follow their 'ideals'.
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    In the never ending saga of terrible people who are trying to create a theocracy in the US, there is this guy.



    Matt Shea, running for office in Washington, is now under investigation by the FBI for authoring a manifesto that basically calls for the killing of all those who don't agree with him. The directions are horrifyingly consistent the Christian Identity/Aryan Nations operating manual.



    This is the face of men who would seize the state in order to live out their nihilist Dominionist fantasies.

    So who wants to bet that he gets discovered with some guy's cock in his mouth?
    I saw that exact same thing in the mid-90s from a former Lutheran who had turned Dominionist. It's all straight out of the Bible, all within the time of King David.
    They call themselves Christians, but they've pretty much thrown out the New Testament and most of the prophets from the Old.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariatenebre View Post
    Atleast this shows that at it's core Christianity is pretty much about as evil as Islam in it's application. The only reason why the West dosen't on the most part look like Islamic nations in their depravity is because we have separation of Church and State. However if Christianity was allowed to run the courts as it did in the past we wouldn't be far behind Islam in depravity. Again this is why I want to abolish all of the Abrahamic and Zoroastrian religions and return to Paganism.
    This doesn't show anything about Christianity since you have to throw out about forty books from the Bible to get it -- all of the New Testament and most of the prophets in the Old.

    They're followers of the Emperor Theodosius, not of Christ.
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    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Indeed:

    On US currency - 'In God We Trust'.
    In US Pledge of Allegiance - 'One nation under God'. (And don't forget the 'with liberty and justice for ALL' bit, except with this government it's more like, 'with liberty and justice for all except those of you who aren't straight, white, and Christian like we are'.)

    You can't claim 'all' while constantly pointing out those who are not included.
    I recall fondly from high school when the officers of the school Christian Club all sat together with a couple of students the administration had been putting pressure on, and we all remained sitting for the Pledge.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariatenebre View Post

    And the One Nation Under God stuff was only put in the pledge and on money in the 50s as a reaction to Communism. Our actual motto is E Pluribus Unum.
    IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent piece.


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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Freedom of Religion = Freedom from Religion

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Dystopian View Post
    Freedom of Religion = Freedom from Religion

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    That's a rather lame parallel.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    We've always been one or two elections away from that slippery slope back to the Dark Ages.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    The title of the thread should be "When fascism GOES to America." The use of "comes" is self-referential, but the OP isn't American.

    At least Lafayette was in the U.S. when identifying with it.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    The title of the thread should be "When fascism GOES to America." The use of "comes" is self-referential, but the OP isn't American.

    At least Lafayette was in the U.S. when identifying with it.
    Goes to America doesn't sound right.
    It sounds as if some one goes to America to create Fascism which is NOT true.
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Goes to America doesn't sound right.
    It sounds as if some one goes to America to create Fascism which is NOT true.
    Fascism is coming from within Amerika. It's supported by Russia, but the true fascists will be home grown.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    That's a rather lame parallel.
    The common theme, of course, is theocracy. Where religious dogma and political views merge to mandate social norms and the creation of laws to enforce them. The functions of Church and State become one. The flag draped across a crucifix, where politicial dissent is blasphemy and religious diversity is illegal. And the definitions of both are up to patriots like Ted Cruz and whichever leader of the Religious Right emerges predominant. Chrisitian theocracy and Moslem theocracy are really the same to their victims. The antithesis of freedom.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Dystopian View Post
    Fascism is coming from within Amerika. It's supported by Russia, but the true fascists will be home grown.

    I was watching about US - china trade war and US military bases around the world
    and thought, don't worry about other countries, the issues are the rotten fruits inside the country need to deal with first.
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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Goes to America doesn't sound right.
    It sounds as if some one goes to America to create Fascism which is NOT true.
    Presumably, it would be spreading from regions where it already holds sway.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    This is getting beyond scary. . .

    https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...t-of-violence/

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    No surprise coming from the man who when asked if he could have accepted the possibility of losing the election to Hillary Clinton ultimately said that he wouldn't after refusing to answer the question at first. He's so delusional about his place in history nothing would shock me anymore coming from his mouth, I always expect him to sink the bar for to the lowest common denominator.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    The Red Hats are the new Brown Shirts.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    It is not only America, here in Europe there has been a rise in fascism the last few years.

    I do agree with rareboy, the red hats are indeed the new brown shirts.

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    Re: When Fascism Comes to America

    Quote Originally Posted by smokeshadow View Post
    The entire article was disturbing, but the last paragraph was the scariest. The man is looking for another civil war, this time with the Red Hats against the rest of the US.

    Bottom line: The President of the United States is engaging in fascistic behavior. Or, if you'd rather, he's play around with fascism, trying it on seeing how it fits. And it's becoming clearer and clearer that he thinks it fits just fine.
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