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    Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Seems you can't say a bad word about them without the word antisemitism being thrown at you, and by Jews i mainly mean the Israeli government.

    Are we meant to feel some kind of collective guilt over the holocaust that means absolutely no criticism is allowed no matter how much it is deserved.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Telstra, is that you?

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    I stay out of racial arguments.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    There are things I like and dislike about the Jewish culture, but that is just a matter of taste and preference.

    The Israeli government, on the other hand, has much to answer for, and is not to be conflated with Judaism itself. The Hebrews existed for nigh two millennia without a state, so their continued survival is by no means dependent upon the state of Israel.

    Israel must stop proclaiming its own fragility while working hard to oppress the Lebanese.

    The assassination of the rocket scientist is probably a justifiable act, but it is illegal nonetheless.

    Ironically, despite the Nazi efforts, I don't believe Jews qualify as an actual race, no more than Greeks or Irish or Swedes. They are a nationality that became distinct, but have little to distinguish them as an actual race.
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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Telstra, is that you?
    could be but no becasue i'm a racist LOL
    Victim of PC police. Some of the PC police are good at making untrue things up about other jub members.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Telstra, is that you?
    It's not that bad.

    There's just this furor over here with the Labour party refusing to accept the standard definition of what antisemitism is, which basically seems to me no criticism of the Israeli government at all.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac135 View Post
    It's not that bad.

    There's just this furor over here with the Labour party refusing to accept the standard definition of what antisemitism is, which basically seems to me no criticism of the Israeli government at all.
    Ok, I get that. It's been that way in the US for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    could be but no becasue i'm a racist LOL
    How can this post be approved ?
    Victim of PC police. Some of the PC police are good at making untrue things up about other jub members.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    What do you mean "now".

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    What do you mean "now".
    I mean nothing..........but good point.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    I have no problem criticizing the Israeli government and the theft of land from Palestinians.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    I only have a problem with Israel. I have a great Aunt and her son who were Jews she died in a concentration camp. He was in a different camp when the GI´s came they released eveeryone regardless of there religion but not the homosexuals. When finally released he was in such bad health he died at the age of 26. Israel has to change its ways and some would not say I am anti semitic. I am just anti Isr<el until they change there ways. Does anyone notice how only 2 men have been the elected PM over many years?

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    ^ But you admit you are "anti-Israel": anti-Zionism equals being an antisemite in the official discourse. The problem is that the state of Israel as it is now is the first, greatest and more real anti-Zionist power in the world.

    "Israel" is a nation, a "state" and will always be, no matter where, no matter when, no matter how, and everyone should accept that truth: but the problem is that they are taking that to the extreme of just rollsteaming with justice and the real world, righteously wrapped in that general true idea, ignoring how to soundly and decently, rightfully implement Zionism.
    Only real, honest Zionists like yours truly feel all the wrong the current state of Israel is doing to Jewish people around the world and, even worse, to the rest of the Western world, and us who ultimately would not care if there had never been Arab or Jewish people at all. Instead of that, we are all doomed to be directly entangled in a problem that was created as a botched solution for a comparatively lesser problem seventy years ago.

    Now we will all be misteriously or shamefully murdered or else, falsely and shamefully convicted, for having posted that on the net
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    ^ That should have been "steamrolling" shouldn't it LOL damn composites

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    ^ That should have been "steamrolling" shouldn't it LOL damn composites
    I liked the variant.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    ^ That should have been "steamrolling" shouldn't it LOL damn composites
    u might be dyslexic

    problem is Israels gov ---had the same right wing leader for many years---and the right wing Arabs who will never accept Israel---having said that whatever happened 70 plus years ago it happened in reaction to the murder of 6 million Jews ----give a small piece of Jordon for a homeland for the arabs--thats where Palestine was to begin with.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    u might be dyslexic

    problem is Israels gov ---had the same right wing leader for many years---and the right wing Arabs who will never accept Israel---having said that whatever happened 70 plus years ago it happened in reaction to the murder of 6 million Jews ----give a small piece of Jordon for a homeland for the arabs--thats where Palestine was to begin with.
    No, it happens with my Chinese too, and with any language with a reverse location of modifier and modified: there is nothing that would force languages to adopt one order or the other, so when you do not even take the trouble to think about the sense of what you are saying ("rolling" instead of "steaming") you end up talking funny, and not just "broken" I don't think I am as cool as to be dyslexic

    The least of the problems in the Israel-Palestinian conflict are the extremists who kill their own leaders after judging them "traitors" (like the scum who assassinated Rabin), and the Arab terrorists who would exist even if, back in 1948, the Jew people and the West who wanted to get rid with the pressure of "Jew probem" in Europe and the US, had negotiated their settlement with the Arabs who had been there while the Jewish went roaming the world, instead of just... steamrolling
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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Can't we all just knish and make up?

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vannie View Post
    Can't we all just knish and make up?
    Not on Earth unless you are in the ending of a certain Griffith movie.

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    Re: Are Jews Now Above Criticism ?

    The orthodox ones around that I have any experience with certainly are...there are a Hasidic group near here and up where our cabin is and they are not open to any discussion about any civic matters that don’t benefit them. Not great neighbors...
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