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    Politic Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    President Donald Trump on Wednesday accused fellow NATO ally Germany of being beholden to Russia because it buys energy from Moscow, in pointed remarks ahead of a summit of the military alliance in Brussels.

    "Germany is a captive of Russia," Trump said at a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, his first since arriving in the Belgian capital. "It's very inappropriate." (CNN)

    Source Link: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/polit...ato/index.html

    Okay, it`s the decision of the American people if they choose an uneducated, egomaniacal and dangerous president, but to offend and discredit his friends, is unacceptable and short-sighted. But we had to learn that the USA and the Trump-administration wishes friends like Saudi-Arabia, North Korea or the Mudschahidin in Iran. Good luck with that.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    A man who owes Russia for his existence shouldn't be telling anyone else that it's inappropriate for them to be doing what they're doing. The truly must think we're all idiots.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    A man who owes Russia for his existence shouldn't be telling anyone else that it's inappropriate for them to be doing what they're doing. The truly must think we're all idiots.
    He's not talking to you.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    ^ Where exactly did I say he was?
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    I don't even know where to start with today. It was as bad as I had feared.

    He is playing to his base and to Putin.

    But he is doing unbelievable damage to America's future role in world affairs.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Where exactly did I say he was?
    You were wondering if he thought you were an idiot, he doesn't give one little shit what you or I think. He's going to say what he thinks all the knuckle draggers want to hear.
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    And now the Germans are the devil?

    Crazy world, no, crazy President --

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Every word he says is for his audience of deplorable supporters back home, screw it if he fucks up NATO and the planet as long as he gets those midterm votes.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    As a German I say: It's hard to lose a friend.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    You were wondering if he thought you were an idiot, he doesn't give one little shit what you or I think. He's going to say what he thinks all the knuckle draggers want to hear.
    I did not say 'me'. I said "we're all", and that included you as well.

    I don't know what bee got in your bonnet, but you come down on everything I say, even when I'm agreeing with you. I'm done with this shit.

    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    I did not say 'me'. I said "we're all", and that included you as well.

    I don't know what bee got in your bonnet, but you come down on everything I say, even when I'm agreeing with you. I'm done with this shit.

    Have a nice day.
    Yeah, that's a pretty huge over-reaction.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben1 View Post
    As a German I say: It's hard to lose a friend.
    Germany hasn't lost a friend. Trump lost the election by 3,000,000,000 votes. However thanks to our antique electoral system, he won the White House. Most of us know who our friends are, and now we have to clean house.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    I hope so, TX-Beu.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Germany hasn't lost a friend. Trump lost the election by 3,000,000,000 votes. However thanks to our antique electoral system, he won the White House. Most of us know who our friends are, and now we have to clean house.
    I wish this were entirely so. I would feel much better if Trump was polling at about 15%.

    But the scariest part of all of this is seeing that consistently, somewhere around 40% of Americans seem to share Trump's vision of America and the world.

    Even when he is gone, that isn't likely going to change for some time. The world is never going to look at the US in the same way after this 4 years. Broken treaties, shambolic, destructive foreign policy, insults unchallenged by the rest of the US power establishment....all of these added together will make it impossible to trust America again. Even repudiation by the next bare majority win by the opposition won't make this go away. We'll all forever be looking over our shoulder.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I wish this were entirely so. I would feel much better if Trump was polling at about 15%.

    But the scariest part of all of this is seeing that consistently, somewhere around 40% of Americans seem to share Trump's vision of America and the world.

    Even when he is gone, that isn't likely going to change for some time. The world is never going to look at the US in the same way after this 4 years. Broken treaties, shambolic, destructive foreign policy, insults unchallenged by the rest of the US power establishment....all of these added together will make it impossible to trust America again. Even repudiation by the next bare majority win by the opposition won't make this go away. We'll all forever be looking over our shoulder.
    That was one reason why Europeans were looking forward to Hillary. We know here, she was here. I do not know if she would have become a good president but in foreign policy, she was a factor of stability and a friend for us Europeans. John Kerry was an excellent Secretary of State, wise, reliable and respectful. The Germans loved Bill Clinton and even Republicans like James Baker, George Shultz or Henry Kissinger were liked. We knew we could count on them.

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    Some pics that show what friendship means.

    But I'm sure if Trump is gone, we'll have another chance. But it is a hard and long time. And it will not stop me from visiting the US next year for the second time in my life. I know that Trump is not the US. There will be a time after him. But do everything so that he is soon gone.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    CNN: Trump says NATO allies agreed to boost defense spending after his pressure.

    WRONG, donīt believe him. The states have already changed their policies before.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    CNN: Trump: "I think they like me a lot in the UK".

    No, they hate him. Thousands of demonstrators are expected to be protesting aginst him.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Trump is a Fascist pig!

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben1 View Post
    CNN: Trump says NATO allies agreed to boost defense spending after his pressure.

    WRONG, donīt believe him. The states have already changed their policies before.
    He also thinks that the other NATO nations need to pay back the United States for paying for them. He hasn't figured out yet that that isn't the way it works.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben1 View Post
    CNN: Trump says NATO allies agreed to boost defense spending after his pressure.

    WRONG, donīt believe him. The states have already changed their policies before.
    He is just lying for his base. He wants Americans and others (like North Korea) to see him as the great negotiator and successful leader who has forced the deadbeat NATO countries to cough up.

    One of the big problems though, is that he effectively admitted that he was touting this spending as a way to drum up sales for US munitions and equipment. Get more countries to spend more of their GDP buying US planes, tanks, missiles, etc.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    "Germany is a captive of Russia," Trump said
    Psychologists call this projecting.
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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    He is just lying for his base. He wants Americans and others (like North Korea) to see him as the great negotiator and successful leader who has forced the deadbeat NATO countries to cough up.

    One of the big problems though, is that he effectively admitted that he was touting this spending as a way to drum up sales for US munitions and equipment. Get more countries to spend more of their GDP buying US planes, tanks, missiles, etc.
    I frankly don't see the issue with this.
    Telling it like it is.

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    Re: Crazy Trump: "Germany is a captive of Russia"

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I don't even know where to start with today. It was as bad as I had feared.

    He is playing to his base and to Putin.

    But he is doing unbelievable damage to America's future role in world affairs.
    Trump does not seem to realize that he is the President of everyone in this country, not
    just the 40% or so that seem to think he is a king. He is truly an embarrassment to
    our country with his irresponsible actions and words.

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    ^ He excels at making allies into enemies.
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