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    Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    So, the four boys they got out, a miracle times four.

    It is nerve wracking following it, and by that I mean reading online, as I don't get any cable or satellite TV.

    Think of the parents of the other nine, including the 25 year old coach. They must be stressed to the max with the rains arriving.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    I see the rescue crew was accidently pumping the water right back into the cave. They lost one rescue diver already.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Like everywhere else, this story is always in the news. We feel a sense of pride that it was British divers who found them.

    Those boys will be in need of some serious counselling. The agony of the parents still waiting, must be overwhelming.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    A miracle times four is just what the world needs, justified and realized hope.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    There was discussion about simply supplying the remaining boys and the coach with necessities for a few months until the monsoons are over, but decided it would be more challenging and difficult than extracting them now. They are training the remaining boys on how to dive so they'll be more aware and comfortable when it's time to leave.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    More coming out now, maybe up to three more.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac135 View Post
    More coming out now, maybe up to three more.
    Watching CNN right now. 8 of the boys are now out. The rest will have to wait til tomorrow. It's remarkable and fascinating to watch.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Quote Originally Posted by swmjck View Post
    Watching CNN right now. 8 of the boys are now out. The rest will have to wait til tomorrow. It's remarkable and fascinating to watch.
    Apparently after each rescue, the air tanks along the way must all be replaced, and that takes a whole day. I'm truly glad that they didn't wait out the monsoons. Two weeks is bad enough. Four months would have been horrendous for both the boys and their parents. Seriously, it would be like a mine cave-in. Waiting is much worse than knowing.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    What I find puzzling is just how the boys managed to make their way through the 2-and-a-half miles of narrow tunnels in the first place, especially when they had to squeeze through many apertures no bigger than 15 inches wide and which were completely under water anyway. It's been said that none of them can swim, so how did they get to that ledge indicated in all the graphics (as below) in the first place? Well, we must hope that the rest of them are safely out by tomorrow and not too physically or psychologically damaged by their ordeal.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Quote Originally Posted by biff30xx View Post
    What I find puzzling is just how the boys managed to make their way through the 2-and-a-half miles of narrow tunnels in the first place, especially when they had to squeeze through many apertures no bigger than 15 inches wide and which were completely under water anyway.
    I doubt the low points were fully flooded when they went in. They may have had to wade through shallow water (hence the shoes and bags left behind), but the coach would have been a complete idiot to make them swim if the tunnel was as flooded as the image shows.

    I think they may even have gone beyond the ledge and turned around to find the tunnel flooded and took refuge on the ledge.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    The coach is young, only 25, so I allow for some youthful indiscretion. Wisdom comes with age, plus he may not have been all that experienced as a spelunker.

    The ledge they are on may be subject to flooding when the monsoons arrive in full and without the pumping that is removing millions of gallons of water. One article said they may be down to just 104 square feet of dry.

    There was also concern that the oxygen might deplete over time, even with the hose. As a parent, which I'm not, I don't think I could stand to wait for months with my child trapped and in peril.

    It is so wonderful that eight have been saved, and sad that the Thai volunteer died in the effort. I pray that his family is taken care of and he is memorialized as the hero he is.

    It is not a sure thing that the remaining five will make it out. The world watches in fear and hope.

    I remember reading archived newspapers in my college days. They were from the 1920's and 30's. One front page article covered a child fallen down an abandoned well shaft. It was a common occurrence before municipal water systems. There was the same riveting coverage. And now I understand.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    I've meditated today on a fallen hero. Feel free to join in.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    The third attempt for the remaining five is underway.

    This morning I read a good article about their (assistant) coach being a master in mediation, a former monk. The article credits the boys meditating in the dark with reducing their oxygen demand, perhaps saving their lives.

    The thought of them sitting there in the silent pitch black for so many days is wrenching. The dark is not frightening in and of itself per se, but lingering there before help reached them, not knowing if the waters would rise to take them, or if they would simply perish, could have been so taxing.

    I do believe the Buddhist perspective has been a boon to them and to the people awaiting their rescue. There is a philosophical acceptance that life is a struggle, and I think a Western event such as this would have seen more hysteria.

    The boys will have a lifetime to reflect back on their misadventure, and the life that it cost to rescue them.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-as...urn-hero-diver
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Three more have been removed, leaving one boy and the coach. The boys are in hospital where they are in good health and good spirits. They will undoubtedly need counselling for their experience, but, apparently, the coach was their real saviour, teaching the boys to meditate which they did for much of their time in the cave.

    The final two should be removed by tomorrow after tanks are replenished.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    All of them are now out safely.

    Just the last two cave divers and the medic to go.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    ^ They must have set it all up to do 5 in one day instead of 4.

    Well done to all involved, and special kudos to Saman Gunan.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    All these acts of bravery by rescuers, victims, and all of the affected are a miracle. It is a wonderful miracle.
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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    I thank God, and the multinational team working so hard to save them, their coach, their parents for keeping the faith, and the diver who died for them.

    It is such a joy to know none of their parents had to face the death when others survived.

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Wonderful news today I feel quite emotional

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    Re: Thai cave rescue -- cautious optimism

    Quote Originally Posted by Nealm1 View Post
    Wonderful news today I feel quite emotional
    Our feelings are completely appropriate.
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