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    Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Every time the topic of possible hostile alien civilizations come up, I keep hearing the same arguments as to why alien civilizations will not be hostile to us. Here are a few.

    (1) The universe has plenty of resources already. There's no reason why aliens will want to come and hurt us.

    Since when did conquerors conquer purely because of resources? This is perhaps the dumbest argument of why aliens will not be hostile to us. Genghis Khan didn't conquer and destroy all those civilizations because of resources.

    (2) Any alien life we come into contact with must be technologically advance and therefore will be peaceful.

    Let me remind people here. Back in the 30's and 40's, the Germans were the most technologically advance country on Earth. It didn't prevent them from murdering tens of millions of innocent civilians in cold blood. The Spaniards were centuries ahead of the natives of the Americas technologically and it didn't prevent them from wiping out whole populations of the Americas and enslaving the rest. And yet, I keep hearing people bringing up this argument to argue that technologically advance aliens will be peaceful, enlightened, blah blah blah.

    (3) Alien invasion is a dumb idea because they could simply nuke us from orbit.

    This snarky reason always comes from people who criticize fictional alien invasion movies. Does it make any sense to shit in the space that you want to conquer? How does nuking a planet from orbit make any sense to an invasion?

    In general, all arguments of peaceful aliens always came about from human perspective. Think of the natives of the Americas. They never saw it coming that their civilizations and cultures would end because of... GOLD. What if we have something that we don't care much for but is vastly valuable to an alien race? Or perhaps they want to subjugate us for cultural reasons we have no comprehension of?

    I'm not saying if we ever encounter aliens that they will be hostile to us. I'm saying it is extremely naiive to bet that any alien race we come across will be peaceful and all enlightened. I'm on the side of Stephen Hawking on this one. We should not be advertising our presence. We have no idea what will happen to us if there's a much more technologically advance civilization out there listening. The natives of the Americas never saw the end of their world coming. I just don't want the same fate to happen to us.

    Yes, it's my random thought for the day.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    The likelihood of one of our spacecraft sent beyond the solar system is so tiny, it boggles the mind. It has become fashionable to opine broadly about the mathematical certainty of life out there, "intelligent life" at that. Of course, math is math.

    But, what is ignored is the tiny aspect of distance, of intergalactic travel, and of timing. The best comparison I can think of came from a grad course on Asian Studies. It actually was Asian, btw, not a euphemism for Mongolian races. We were studying reincarnation and the bogus notion in America and in the West that people believed they were reincarnated kings or ladies in waiting or similar. The professor was sort of a closet Buddhist, but he had contempt for such arrogance. He said that the process of reincarnation as taught in the Hindu religion, and its daughter, Buddhism, was that life was a great ocean, and that dying and coming back even as a human was akin to surfacing in the Pacific and coming up inside the only life ring buoy on the surface of the sea. The odds are simply against it.

    How much greater are the odds against our meager little satellite, plodding along as sub-light speed, in the vast, vast, vast void of space. Our greatest likelihood of an encounter will be colliding with something so far out that we will never know what totaled the car.

    As for prethinking our potential encounter here with Alien, War of the Worlds Martian-esque beings, or the Blob, it is interesting and should be imagined, I suppose, but not prepared for. The human race, like many other species on this planet, has proven itself adaptable time after time over the long trek of history and pre-history. True, we can be wiped out by a random event like a collision with a comet, or an outbreak of a mutated contagion, but if pitted against another intelligent force, I think it likely that in a given amount of time, we would find the weakness to exploit, or possibly a path to comity.

    And if not, it was a good run, wasn't it? After all, we had bacon for a time. And Slinkies.
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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    I can't help but wonder if there is cabbage on other planets.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    I think that it is possible, and maybe likely, that we have already been visited by aliens over the centuries and they did not decimate us yet, so it is unlikely that they will.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Uranus has cabbage. May also support other life forms.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Where's Georgio Tsoukolos when you need him?

    Oh, wait. He's getting a haircut!

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    We would be like ants to an alien civilization thatís advanced enough to travel here. Do you have peace talks with ants at your picnic?

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    I hate the taste of Raid.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    If they come after humans to destroy us, it will be because they have had a good look at what we are and want to prevent the spread of contagion to other planets.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Well, they have fuck all to worry about for the next thousand years or so. We're in no danger of getting outside the solar system for a long time.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    The likelihood of one of our spacecraft sent beyond the solar system is so tiny, it boggles the mind. It has become fashionable to opine broadly about the mathematical certainty of life out there, "intelligent life" at that. Of course, math is math.
    Using the theory of black anti- matter osmosis combined with the probabilities of retro wormhole induction it is not out of the realm of possibility to speculate that we have already made contact with alien life before we ever sent a space craft in to deep space and the space craft is in theory "catching up" to history.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    It's no doubt vitally necessary that we postulate the impossible. Parallel universes, black holes, worm holes, peace in our time, the Munich agreement, underwater cities, ray guns, athletic scholarship, flying cars, food synthesizers, military intelligence, transporter beams, and force fields.

    Instead what we have is an overpopulated anthroposphere that's all too finite, black lives matter, strip mining, wars for fossil fuels, German companies cheating the pollution standards for auto exhaust, cities drowning in global warming's rising oceans, bump stocks and children killing their "friends" with fully automatic weapons because they've been reared on a steady diet of paramilitary and thug war games, cars that get less gas mileage than the Datsun pickup of the 70's, overfished oceans, Japanese cramming themselves into shitty subway cars like maggots, and cops who can't seem to subdue unarmed mentally ill citizens without killing them, despite owning millions of dollars in riot shields, helmets, netting, batons and all kinds of crowd control technology.

    I'm not saying the world is half-empty, but I am saying the basic problems we are failing to deal with in any meaningful way are precursors to any space bling to have a handful of people travel beyond Pluto. We are decades away from humans being stations on Mars. Decades. Before that, some poor bastards are going to give up years of their lives in some small craft going and coming from that bleak little red wasteland. And it won't be like Lost in space. No neat little plants or creatures, just more minerals and possibly frozen microbes, possibly.

    I love science fiction, but we tend to race along ahead of our time to a high degree without really noting how far ahead fantasy takes us. Yes, we need dreamers and inventors to discover or invent the possible, and that begins with the impossible, but we need a bit of a reality check where space travel is concerned. With actual technology, not postulated future imagined technologies, we cannot even reach the next planet safely, much less get to the outer planets and the moons of the giants. Projecting myriad worlds beyond us is fun, but wholly fancy. There is zero evidence that there is life, although mathematical probabilities, much like you COULD win the lottery.

    And, our craft still travel on fuel we bring along with us, with a bit of radioactive pop to keep the equipment running out there in the cold.
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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    If aliens landed, we would kill each other --- like in the Twilight Zone episode ''Martians on Maple Street.''

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Quote Originally Posted by NotHardUp1 View Post
    It's no doubt vitally necessary that we postulate the impossible. Parallel universes, black holes, worm holes, peace in our time, the Munich agreement, underwater cities, ray guns, athletic scholarship, flying cars, food synthesizers, military intelligence, transporter beams, and force fields.

    Instead what we have is an overpopulated anthroposphere that's all too finite, black lives matter, strip mining, wars for fossil fuels, German companies cheating the pollution standards for auto exhaust, cities drowning in global warming's rising oceans, bump stocks and children killing their "friends" with fully automatic weapons because they've been reared on a steady diet of paramilitary and thug war games, cars that get less gas mileage than the Datsun pickup of the 70's, overfished oceans, Japanese cramming themselves into shitty subway cars like maggots, and cops who can't seem to subdue unarmed mentally ill citizens without killing them, despite owning millions of dollars in riot shields, helmets, netting, batons and all kinds of crowd control technology.

    I'm not saying the world is half-empty, but I am saying the basic problems we are failing to deal with in any meaningful way are precursors to any space bling to have a handful of people travel beyond Pluto. We are decades away from humans being stations on Mars. Decades. Before that, some poor bastards are going to give up years of their lives in some small craft going and coming from that bleak little red wasteland. And it won't be like Lost in space. No neat little plants or creatures, just more minerals and possibly frozen microbes, possibly.

    I love science fiction, but we tend to race along ahead of our time to a high degree without really noting how far ahead fantasy takes us. Yes, we need dreamers and inventors to discover or invent the possible, and that begins with the impossible, but we need a bit of a reality check where space travel is concerned. With actual technology, not postulated future imagined technologies, we cannot even reach the next planet safely, much less get to the outer planets and the moons of the giants. Projecting myriad worlds beyond us is fun, but wholly fancy. There is zero evidence that there is life, although mathematical probabilities, much like you COULD win the lottery.

    And, our craft still travel on fuel we bring along with us, with a bit of radioactive pop to keep the equipment running out there in the cold.
    Live long and prosper...

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    We'd be either assimilated, or exterminated. The same thing that we would do.

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    The distance factor is what troubles me the most about aliens visiting earth. Astronomers believe that there are habitable planets that are the correct distance from their stars to support life, but getting to them is the problem. Even if one were able to travel from there, to us, at the speed of light, it would take millions of years. The occupants of the craft would be dead, their civilization might very well be long gone..

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    If they are hostile, I hope they'll let me get in a few wonderful cums before I'm doused. If not, then f*ck them and the force they rode in on.
    See how beautiful we are and blessed, too. Together we are excellent.

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    Re: Common arguments regarding possible hostile alien civilizations

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    We'd be either assimilated, or exterminated. The same thing that we would do.
    If only they were as benevolent as Zuckerberg, and philanthropic. I don't do Facebook, but it was because of my family and friends, not because of the snooping and ads.

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