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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Give citations or admit you just posted a pair of falsehoods.
    So, I'm a liar again. I'm not going to wade through hundreds of posts to find them, but I have asked that question in at least 2 threads and repeated it at least once in the same thread when you refused to answer, just like you're refusing to answer this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Give citations or admit you just posted a pair of falsehoods.
    By the way, if I never asked you that question, how in hell did I know that you responded to one of them by quoting the Second Amendment?

    I don't expect an apology from you, but at least I can go to sleep tonight knowing that I am not a liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    But everyone in Israel does a stint in the defense forces, so those are just ordinary citizens who happen to be serving at the time.

    Plus it wasn't that long ago in the U.S. where seeing a couple of teenagers on bikes with rifles over their shoulders was no big deal.

    So are Americans today less sane and balanced?
    Again, evidence suggests yes.



    And it seems that a lot of people with diagnosed mental health issues who have been on medications to control their depression, PTSD and a host of other behaviours are the ones most easily manipulated into thinking that the guvmint is a cummin' for their guns.

    And the NRA and gun manufacturers are feeding this narrative while using their media outlets and speech to feed mass psychosis.

    America just can't see it because it has become the new normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Is there a parallel between that circumstance in Israel and what you have termed “the armed militia” here in America?
    Both are ordinary citizens armed under the laws of their countries.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Is the following [amended] quote a correct interpretation?

    I can't see how you would get that.

    "The way people talk here to oppose arming anyone...", including them in the set of those who make wild predictions about the U.S. will turn into the "Wild West" if citizens are allowed to bear arms freely.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    So, I'm a liar again. I'm not going to wade through hundreds of posts to find them, but I have asked that question in at least 2 threads and repeated it at least once in the same thread when you refused to answer, just like you're refusing to answer this one.

    And please stop calling me a liar!!!
    I haven't "refused to answer" anything.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I haven't "refused to answer" anything.
    I never said that. I said that every time I asked you a specific question about the 'militia', the only response I got was you quoting the Second Amendment. You continuously throw that word around in defence of your precious guns, but you can't even give us a simple explanation of what a 'militia' is. You haven't told me why people need assault rifles except to tell us that the Second Amendment says that you do.

    You think you answer questions, but you don't. You just spew the same old rhetoric.
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    Again, evidence seems to come down in favour of less sane/balanced.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Curiously this didn't seem to have any relationship to people who had professional "training" (like vets) or not.
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    Deserves a listen: A Letter to Wayne LaPierre

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    We're all nuts.

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    Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    Yes the evidence is clear.... they elect the most narcissistic snake oil salesman
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    Quote Originally Posted by offthewall14420 View Post
    We're all nuts.
    Just shoot me.
    See how beautiful we are and blessed, too. Together we are excellent.

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    Again, evidence says yes.


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    ^ Link, please...this story deserves to be read.

    Will he be tried for, uh, involuntary manslaughter?
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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    There are anumber of stories on David Desper Road Rage

    http://www.delcotimes.com/general-ne...-rage-shooting

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    God, save us.

    This country is going off the rails, and threatening to take other parts of the world down the hellhole with us.

    Oh, and Rareboy, thank you for the link. The original posted picture didn't specify that she had been killed. Yikes.
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    This is not a militia issue. This is not a self-defence issue. This is cold-blooded murder as a result of entitlement and anger and his right to kill people whenever he wants to.
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    Evidence suggest yes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    This is not a militia issue. This is not a self-defence issue. This is cold-blooded murder as a result of entitlement and anger and his right to kill people whenever he wants to.
    Of course it's a militia issue: every person in the U.S. misusing firearms to hurt other people, except for foreign terrorists, has been a member of the militia.

    And there is no "right to kill people whenever he wants to" -- that's an incredibly ignorant claim.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Evidence suggest yes.

    That was meant to be ridiculous, but it was predictable some would think it wonderful.

    Mostly it's pushed as a gag gift (they even come in blue....).

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    Evidence says yes.


    A 13-year-old girl has died after authorities say she was shot Saturday by her 9-year-old brother, local media reported.

    Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell said the girl would not give up a video game controller when her brother wanted it.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ame/437207002/

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    How Europe sees the issue:


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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    How Europe sees the issue:

    Pretty juvenile.

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    Evidence says yes.


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    ^ Indeed, unless he has a similar array on his left side, he is severely unbalanced.
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    Re: Are Americns less sane/balanced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I think Americans have just grown accustomed to not having any discipline in their lives.
    This, but also the breakdown of family ties.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    Gun violence in America is historical. US presidents used to be assassinated with some regularity, and rural families put guns in the hands of children.

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    Evidence says yes.


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    This American Vet and his partner have no desire to set foot in the United Shit that is America!Again.

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    Open this site PLEASE http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Evidence says yes.

    Shouldn't the poster be arrested for inciting violence and murder?

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    ^ Indeed. The 'target' symbols certainly send a message.
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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    And still the evidence pours in:



    This Trump supporter, Frank Espinoza, using David Hogg's head for target practice.

    Last edited by rareboy; April 12th, 2018 at 12:11 PM.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    ^Now that is a Redneck, probably married to his childhood sweetheart, who also just happens to be his cousin.

    Though with the amount of Cholesterol he is carrying around, he better get that shooting practice in fairly sharply.

    I wonder if he masturbates over the Confederate flag?

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    So this week, our winner is this guy:



    A 14-year-old African-American boy stopped to ask for directions to school in a Detroit suburb but was shot at instead, according to prosecutors.

    Retired firefighter Jeffery Zeigler, 53, who is white, was arraigned on Friday "on assault with intent to murder and felony firearm" charges, according to the Oakland County Sheriff's Office.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    OOPS.

    This week it seems as though toddlers are once again getting in on the act.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...b029ebe0204cda

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    ^ He might as well have just put the gun in his daughter's lap. Never, ever, should a gun be loaded when children can get hold of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    OOPS.

    This week it seems as though toddlers are once again getting in on the act.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...b029ebe0204cda
    Clear evidence that US toddlers are less sane and balanced than toddlers in other nations.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    The Waffle House gunman had his arms seized twice and still got them back.

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    Re: Are Americans less sane/balanced?

    ^
    Watts is lying -- nothing new for her.

    The NRA didn't get a choice: the Secret Service trumps all local laws, rules, and regulations... although it would be an interesting constitutional challenge if some licensed gun carriers decided to file suit, it pretty much boils down to either the locals play by S.S. rules or the Vice President doesn't come.
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    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    ^
    Watts is lying -- nothing new for her.

    The NRA didn't get a choice: the Secret Service trumps all local laws, rules, and regulations... although it would be an interesting constitutional challenge if some licensed gun carriers decided to file suit, it pretty much boils down to either the locals play by S.S. rules or the Vice President doesn't come.
    You're technically correct, of course. It is not an NRA ban.

    But I think the sentiment of her post is correct. One of the most important and highly trained security forces in the world chooses to ban the general public from carrying guns in order to prevent gun violence and protect their charge.

    It's easily measurable in countries with less guns. Less guns mean less gun deaths.

    It's not rocket science.
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    So an ex-con...with a history of shady arms deals and lying will be the next president of the NRA.

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    So an ex-con...with a history of shady arms deals and lying will be the next president of the NRA.
    Proof that the ad agency is really in charge -- the only reason to put this guy in there is to stir up emotions, which means more donations.
    Many of us suspected, and this confirms our belief, that recent changes to how leadership is selected -- making it a matter of a small group picking the next batch of leaders -- was managed by the ad agency in charge.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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