Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

[Jack Springer]

Obama said today in his interview with George S. of ABC News that he was not responsible for closing the White House to public tours.

He blamed the Secret Service.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...216.html?hp=l7



Apologies to Sgt. Schultz.

[CowboyBob]

Justapixel lives on.

[Jack Springer]

Justapixel lives on.

Bob -- why is it that you can never comment on the subject but always bring something else to the thread.

I ask the moderator on duty to remove your comment.

If Obama does not know what goes on at the White House -- what else doesn't he know?

[xbuzzerx]

Jack this is utterly ridiculous. The White House being closed for any reason-- remodelling, construction, security issues, security alerts, or whatever else, is not something Obama or any President personally sits and micromanages. Going from that to "he controls nothing that goes on in the White House" is infantile, even for you.

[Jack Springer]

^^

Obama went on the road and said hundred of thousands of people were going to lose their jobs, their insurance, their Medicare, their flu shots, services would be closed and eliminated, etc. The Obama plan was to make political hay off the Sequester -- and you're going to say he knew nothing about closing the WH to public tours? Surely the most intelligent man ever in the WH would know this.

[xbuzzerx]

^^

Obama went on the road and said hundred of thousands of people were going to lose their jobs, their insurance, their Medicare, their flu shots, services would be closed and eliminated, etc. The Obama plan was to make political hay off the Sequester -- and you're going to say he knew nothing about closing the WH to public tours? Surely the most intelligent man ever in the WH would know this.

This conclusion is as stupid as saying you are incapable of doing your job because you didn't even know there was a termite problem in the fence in your backyard.

Stop making stupid threads, stupid posts, and stupid conclusions. We're all dumber for reading this garbage.

[andysayshi]

Apparently Disneyworld Paris ran out of orange soda this afternoon.

WHY DIDN"T DISNEY CEO BOB IGER KNOW ABOUT THIS? WHY DOESN"T HE FIX IT?

[Rolyo85]

I vote to all just put him on ignore at this point. This is ridiculous, and I am not using the other R word out of respect for mentally challenged people.

[chrisrobin]

Justapixel lives on.

Perhaps laikaNYC?

[andysayshi]

I did the tour in the late 90s, and loved it.

[tigerfan482]

Jack, do you have some proof of insight into how the daily operations of the White House are run and the deliberations and decision making process of the Secret Service, who is charged with guarding said White House? I'm thinking you don't and are just going to come back with something like "you wouldn't read it anyway." For someone who seems to have no discernible participation in the decisions made in the daily operation of the government, you seem to act like you intimately know what goes on when these decisions are made and the motives behind them.

[xbuzzerx]

Jack, do you have some proof of insight into how the daily operations of the White House are run and the deliberations and decision making process of the Secret Service, who is charged with guarding said White House? I'm thinking you don't and are just going to come back with something like "you wouldn't read it anyway." For someone who seems to have no discernible participation in the decisions made in the daily operation of the government, you seem to act like you intimately know what goes on when these decisions are made and the motives behind them.

While meeting secretly with fascist communist-socialist Islamist forces bent on destroying America, in the middle of their Kenyan death to America ritual Obama accidentally spilled some of the Blood of Americans he was using on the carpet, necessitating a temporary cessation of all public tours.

Obviously.

[tigerfan482]

While meeting secretly with fascist communist-socialist Islamist forces bent on destroying America, in the middle of their Kenyan death to America ritual Obama accidentally spilled some of the Blood of Americans he was using on the carpet, necessitating a temporary cessation of all public tours.

Obviously.

Damn. That's my bad. In perusing my news sources today, I totally overlooked Ann Coulter's blog. How could I have missed such an important and fact filled news source? Well at least I got caught up on the Jack Springer Story-of-the-Day and was able to gain back at least part of the information I was missing.

[CowboyBob]

Perhaps laikaNYC?

It's incredible as to just how much the OP hates the President of the United States. He nips at his heels with every step.

Such obsessive hatred. It's worrisome.

[CowboyBob]

Bob -- why is it that you can never comment on the subject but always bring something else to the thread.

I ask the moderator on duty to remove your comment.

If Obama does not know what goes on at the White House -- what else doesn't he know?

Okay Springer. Here's an on-topic post about your thread.

Your continuously posting of hatred threads against the President of the United States about the most petty and ridiculous of things have turned this CE&P forum into a mockery. Your threads have nothing to with actual political discussion. All you do is post baiting threads about non-issues and this is another one. You are desperate and your obsessive hatred for your President is disturbing.

If you can't deal with Barack Obama being elected not once, but twice, you'd better get some help because you're simmering in your cesspool.

[Ninja108]

His postings simply reflect many other postings I've seen on Obama getting reelected Cowboy. THe thing is the people spewing these things...their voters back home love it.

[FuryOfFirestorm]

Zomg i ran out of toilet paper! Why isn't obama doing anything about it!?

[Kulindahr]

Another lie in a thread title -- does anyone know who holds the record for those?


With respect to the narrow issue of White House security and the Secret Service, it is quite correct that the President is not in chartge of what goes on at the White House: the Secret Service is charged with that task, and they make the decisions.

[Jack Springer]

You and other have continually kissed the ass of the President and don't hold him accountable for almost anything he does or says.

It's time to see the man as he is and not is the hero attire you constantly adorn him with.

The economy is not improving, Obama lies on a regular basis -- as in the focus of this thread.

If me and few others would not hold Obama up for review -- most of you guys would crown him king.

Honestly, would you accept that the President of the United States has no control of the White House being open for visitors? Didn't you listen to his litany of closures over a small cutback in spending?

Get off the kool-aid and think for yourself.

Okay Springer. Here's an on-topic post about your thread.

Your continuously posting of hatred threads against the President of the United States about the most petty and ridiculous of things have turned this CE&P forum into a mockery. Your threads have nothing to with actual political discussion. All you do is post baiting threads about non-issues and this is another one. You are desperate and your obsessive hatred for your President is disturbing.

If you can't deal with Barack Obama being elected not once, but twice, you'd better get some help because you're simmering in your cesspool.

[tigerfan482]

You and other have continually kissed the ass of the President and don't hold him accountable for almost anything he does or says.

It's time to see the man as he is and not is the hero attire you constantly adorn him with.

The economy is not improving, Obama lies on a regular basis -- as in the focus of this thread.

If me and few others would not hold Obama up for review -- most of you guys would crown him king.

Honestly, would you accept that the President of the United States has no control of the White House being open for visitors? Didn't you listen to his litany of closures over a small cutback in spending?

Get off the kool-aid and think for yourself.

Jack, you don't get much appreciation on here, so allow me to offer up what so many others on here have failed to do. We recognize your tireless efforts everyday to go out and search the vast catalog of information that is the internet in search of something to remind us that we are just one step away from Nazis riding dinosaurs running this country. While lesser men would stop after 300 sites of not being able to find something of substance against the President, you push on. Your perseverance and drive pay off in the end when, on Bob's Southern Fried Recipes and True American Patriot Political Discourse Blog, you find that one nugget of information that exposes the President for the inept, greedy, American-hating person he truly is. You then follow up tirelessly with links to interviews, research, and personally written letters, memos, and other works of literature that contain the plethora of factual information you use to expose this son-of-a-bitch and who he really is to the world. The efforts and dedication you put into your work do not go unnoticed and will be rewarded one day when Ronnie Reagan's second coming occurs and the apocalypse begins.

So keep up your brave internet based political Monday morning quarterbacking and keep fighting the good fight to keep all Americans safe and free with your well researched, fact-based exposes.

[MisterB]

Okay Mr. Springer. One mo' time.

Just answer one question. Yes or no.

Do you or have you ever worked for the Federal Government?

Answer yes or no. No other answer will suffice.

If you choose again not answer this simple question, I would again respectfully request that you cease and desist any further comments about federal government employees or how it operates.

To put my question in perspective for you--I worked for the Federal Government and have intimate and direct knowledge about the REALITY of how it truly operates. From how folks are hired, how budgets are truly generated and yes, who controls Government building operations.

Or, maybe I should just say I am aware of the facts relating to your thread, and you sir, once again, have put NO facts forward to support your ramblings.

Please continue...

[chrisrobin]

Or, maybe I should just say I am aware of the facts relating to your thread, and you sir, once again, have put NO facts forward to support your ramblings.

Facts?

For those who still are dependent on facts, the White House tours are run by the Secret Service. If some Secret Service workers have been "furloughed", there are fewer to guard the President (neocons' wet dream). Can't have it both ways: you can't only be in favor of certain aspects the "sequester" and not others. Too bad they aren't upset because 750 workers have been laid off. Who cares, right?

[MisterB]

Facts?

For those who still are dependent on facts, the White House tours are run by the Secret Service. If some Secret Service workers have been "furloughed", there are fewer to guard the President (neocons' wet dream). Can't have it both ways: you can't only be in favor of certain aspects the "sequester" and not others. Too bad they aren't upset because 750 workers have been laid off. Who cares, right?

And you sir, get the gold star. Funny how the facts get in the way of the OP's rants...

[rareboy]

Obama said today in his interview with George S. of ABC News that he was not responsible for closing the White House to public tours.

He blamed the Secret Service.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...216.html?hp=l7



Apologies to Sgt. Schultz.

This is the stupidest thread you've ever made.

Obama did not say that he did not know what was going on. He said that he was not responsible for closing the White House to tours.

Your thread title is so stupid and misleading that I've asked the moderators to have it removed.

[FuryOfFirestorm]

This is the stupidest thread you've ever made.

Obama did not say that he did not know what was going on. He said that he was not responsible for closing the White House to tours.

Your thread title is so stupid and misleading that I've asked the moderators to have it removed.

Jack should change his name to Fox News, since he doesn't let facts get in the way of his rabid anti-Obama narrative.

[Jack Springer]

... and it keeps on coming ... apologies for the CEO of the country not knowing what is happening in his own house.

Obama went on a national scare campaign for sequester. It's his policy to make normal everyday citizens feel the pain of sequestration -- it's his choice. Turning down the thermostat, reducing the amount of paper used/purchased would have saved tons of money -- and yet, none of that or any other money saving measures were even considered.

Obama takes his vengeance out on grade school groups who scrimped and saved to visit the WH.

What a great man.

Facts?

For those who still are dependent on facts, the White House tours are run by the Secret Service. If some Secret Service workers have been "furloughed", there are fewer to guard the President (neocons' wet dream). Can't have it both ways: you can't only be in favor of certain aspects the "sequester" and not others. Too bad they aren't upset because 750 workers have been laid off. Who cares, right?

[Jack Springer]

Oh puh-lease. The same old crap line.

... and still so true.

[CowboyBob]

... and it keeps on coming ... apologies for the CEO of the country not knowing what is happening in his own house.

Obama went on a national scare campaign for sequester. It's his policy to make normal everyday citizens feel the pain of sequestration -- it's his choice. Turning down the thermostat, reducing the amount of paper used/purchased would have saved tons of money -- and yet, none of that or any other money saving measures were even considered.

Obama takes his vengeance out on grade school groups who scrimped and saved to visit the WH.

What a great man.

Talk about living in a bubble. Springer, you've gone so far off topic yourself in this thread you don't know whether to shit or go sailing.

You're displayed to the world over and over again your seething hatred for the President. Ranting like this over and over again only makes you look like a complete fool. Find something more constructive to do instead of regurgitating the propaganda you hear.

By the way....what do you do for a living?

[xbuzzerx]

... and it keeps on coming ... apologies for the CEO of the country not knowing what is happening in his own house.

Obama went on a national scare campaign for sequester. It's his policy to make normal everyday citizens feel the pain of sequestration -- it's his choice. Turning down the thermostat, reducing the amount of paper used/purchased would have saved tons of money -- and yet, none of that or any other money saving measures were even considered.

Obama takes his vengeance out on grade school groups who scrimped and saved to visit the WH.

What a great man.

So which is it Jack-- he's incompetent and doesn't even know what's going on in the White House, or he cancelled the tours knowingly on purpose to screw people over? Because you've made both claims now.

[FuryOfFirestorm]

So which is it Jack-- he's incompetent and doesn't even know what's going on in the White House, or he cancelled the tours knowingly on purpose to screw people over? Because you've made both claims now.

Don't you remember that Obama is both:

1) an incompetent idiot and an evil mastermind

2) a godless atheist and a fundamentalist Muslim

3) a bleeding heart liberal and a filthy Socialist.

He's also my sister!

*slap*

My daughter!

*slap*

My sister and my daughter!

[justdra]

I don't agree or understand most of the things that go on in Washington or what the POTUS does and I don't think anyone on here does either BUT most of us do agree anything he does or doesn't do will always be better than the alternative and that is Mitt or any of his likeness. Anything he will do or ever did will never get an agreement or so much as a "great idea" from the opposition and when that happen, people can expect the same in return. He still isn't a bigger bitch as I want him to be.

[Centexfarmer]

Bob -- why is it that you can never comment on the subject but always bring something else to the thread.

I ask the moderator on duty to remove your comment.

If Obama does not know what goes on at the White House -- what else doesn't he know?

I wasn't aware that we had shift changes.

Did you send that as a comment, a post report, or alert us in the Ask The Moderators Forum?

Because I see no record of any such request.

^^

Obama went on the road and said hundred of thousands of people were going to lose their jobs, their insurance, their Medicare, their flu shots, services would be closed and eliminated, etc. The Obama plan was to make political hay off the Sequester -- and you're going to say he knew nothing about closing the WH to public tours? Surely the most intelligent man ever in the WH would know this.

And what if he actually did?

Shouldn't the "right wing faux rage" actually come from how much it costs to fire up Air Force One to make such speaches?

At least in how closing the White House to Tours actually compares in costs?

The Sequester Cut of White House Tours Equals 2 Hours of Air Force One

Forbes magazine thought enough to say something significant about it.

This thread DOES NOT.

[xbuzzerx]

Hey Jack where do you get your info?

[Centexfarmer]

As Americans ^ THAT is what we should all be outraged about.

[Kulindahr]

.... Obama lies on a regular basis ....

We can only conclude that he's secretly your hero, since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

[Kulindahr]

Shouldn't the "right wing faux rage" actually come from how much it costs to fire up Air Force One to make such speaches?

At least in how closing the White House to Tours actually compares in costs?

The Sequester Cut of White House Tours Equals 2 Hours of Air Force One

Forbes magazine thought enough to say something significant about it.

This is what John Boehner fought fiercely to get passed in the House.

[maxpowr9]

I never thought it was possible to have a Speaker more inept than Gingrich but Boehner proves the impossible.

[Jack Springer]

We can only conclude that he's secretly your hero, since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Your blabbing makes no sense.

[Jack Springer]

This thread illustrates the blind faith in a man what has no idea how to lead. His idea of leadership is to divide.

I wasn't aware that we had shift changes.

Did you send that as a comment, a post report, or alert us in the Ask The Moderators Forum?

Because I see no record of any such request.



And what if he actually did?

Shouldn't the "right wing faux rage" actually come from how much it costs to fire up Air Force One to make such speaches?

At least in how closing the White House to Tours actually compares in costs?

The Sequester Cut of White House Tours Equals 2 Hours of Air Force One

Forbes magazine thought enough to say something significant about it.

This thread DOES NOT.

[tigerfan482]

This thread illustrates the blind faith in a man what has no idea how to lead. His idea of leadership is to divide.

All this thread (further) illustrates is your blind hatred of the President and your desperate attempts to try and make him look like a poor Commander-in-Chief. Your as bad as John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

[CowboyBob]

Your blabbing makes no sense.

You've degenerated in this thread also.

This thread illustrates the blind faith in a man what has no idea how to lead. His idea of leadership is to divide.

This thread illustrates a perfect example of blind hatred for a man and someone who has fallen for propaganda.

[rareboy]

Wow the thread is so much clearer now!!

Thanks!!!

[chrisrobin]

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I received an epiphany this week: The "ignore" button is vastly underrated.

[Jack Springer]

I don't hate the guy.

I don't follow anyone with blind loyalty either.

As compared to blind hatred of Obama?

[Rolyo85]

I don't follow anyone with blind loyalty either.

Are you sure? Cause all of your posts are verbatim quoted from right wing sources.

[Centexfarmer]

This thread illustrates the blind faith in a man what has no idea how to lead. His idea of leadership is to divide.

That argument, in itself is a straw man of your own creation.

I have plenty to be upset with Obama about, this nickel and dime bullshit is the very least of it.

How about bringing an "A Game" instead of the usual ad nauseam non sequitors?

[Jack Springer]

No straw man -- the guy shut down the White House to visitors when he didn't have to do it -- he used the ploy to make his point. His point has him down in the polls.

How about Obama doing something about the economy and jobs.

Hell, the guy can't even produce a budget on time.

All I hear on CEP is how great Obama is in every thread about him. Only a few have ever admitted he had some faults.

Blind faith has it's consequences -- eventually you get screwed .. .and not the good kind.

Every thread on CEP about a republican gets trashed -- WTF is the difference. Today all the usuals trashed a republican governor for coming out for marriage equality for gays ... and yet they trashed him and every republican living.

I'm not seeing an "A Game" there.

Go beat up on someone else.

[mightbe]

His ratings matter far less in the second term. Obama has tried on the economy and jobs; it'll be pain fully slow, but it'll grow. He does not write the budget. Obama is also center-right, dangerously so.

All proven.

Obama does fuck up. A lot. He actually is a black Bush, with a few more ideas. I have yet to see a single person here that could be considered a zealot for Obama. Just because you rely on the slippery slope fallacy to put Obama's views in line with everyone else does not make it true.

Actually, it seems that there's one super-camp on this: we're not thrilled with Obama, or satisfied in any way, some are even exasperated, but he's better than the alternative.

[Centexfarmer]

No straw man -- the guy shut down the White House to visitors when he didn't have to do it -- he used the ploy to make his point. His point has him down in the polls.

How about Obama doing something about the economy and jobs.

Hell, the guy can't even produce a budget on time.

All I hear on CEP is how great Obama is in every thread about him. Only a few have ever admitted he had some faults.

Blind faith has it's consequences -- eventually you get screwed .. .and not the good kind.

Every thread on CEP about a republican gets trashed -- WTF is the difference. Today all the usuals trashed a republican governor for coming out for marriage equality for gays ... and yet they trashed him and every republican living.

I'm not seeing an "A Game" there.

Go beat up on someone else.

Curious.

As Gay Men we get beaten up everyday, usually by some "conservative" either with a religious bent, or a Republican looking to score points with their base.

I'm just saying, and has been shared by some of the posters here that you deride, and by some of those that deride you, there's a litany of things that we can all beat Obama up on.

When so called "conservatives" (either out here in the world, or here in CE&P) go after Obama it's rarely about anything of significance.

'Ooooh! Obama is a Socialist-Marxist-Kenyan Born-Atheist-Secular-Liberal-Muslim Loving-Anti-American-Negro who mixes his Sci-Fi metaphors'



Really?

If anything the guy is the product of our fucked up political system.

In the History of America who makes a speech at a Party Convention, then goes from being a State Senator, to a U.S Senator, to President of the United States within the course of four years?

As an American who voted for Obama (TWICE), he's not the HOPE and Change that I voted for.

The "right wingers" want to call into question his "leadership." (Or lack thereof).

From this Texan's perspective, the only voting bloc that's truly holding their elected Representatives "accountable" are the bought and paid for Tea Party Extremists.

As a fellow American I think that you and I, and anyone reading this post should wake the fuck up, and stop taking our talking points from our National Corporate Owned Media, and demand that our talking points be heard!

What you and I see everyday, and in some ways is reflected in CE&P, are two entrenched camps.

I'm right, your left, your wrong, go fuck yourself, blah, blah, blah.

Meanwhile back in Washington (Regardless of Party) they're all nothing more than "corporate shills."

Those of us who actually Love America, and who love American History, and who follow politics and sociology like some people who love sports, or the Kardashians, or Honey Boo Boo, can't help but see a huge disconnect in what's supposed to be the greatest "experiment" in World History; American Democracy.

And it's all being "usurped" by the myth of "free markets/enterprise," while the "American Dream" apparently is only being reserved for illegal immigrants.

WTF!?



Isn't it curious that, as Americans, that we know more about what's going on in Europe (very little actually), or Southeast Asia/China (still very little), but know virtually nothing about the economies or politics of South American countries?

Our biggest (you can actually drive to) adjacent Governmental Countries?

The New Pope of the Catholic Church, for the first time in recorded History isn't from "Mainland Europe."

And all that most Americans seem to know about Argentina is that Madonna played Eva Peron in the screen version of a Broadway Play, and that Hugo Chavez was El Presidente' of Venezuala.

California is said to be the 7th largest economy in the world, followed closely by Brazil.

What do any of us really know about Brazil beyond "Carnivale" and hot Gay Porn stars?

Am I being "incoherent" in my perceived "rant" here?

Or is anyone getting my point?

Sure Obama is playing petty school yard politics by shutting the White House down for tours.

How is that any different from the so called "leadership" in the House of Congress, and why should we give a shit about the differences?

Because it's nothing more than Theater; Bread and Circuses.

Meanwhile....back on the farm, the Dow Jones Industrial Average reaches a Record High, Corporate Profits and Mergers are far exceeding anything under the Reagan Administration, and the American Public is being told that everything that they've been paying taxes for are "entitlements" that must be cut to balance the budget.

And you're okay with that?

/end

[Centexfarmer]

On the point of "sequester;"

Q: What's the difference between Nationalizing and Corporatization of a "peoples democracy?"

Hint: The answers have been the revolutionizing principle in South American Countries for decades now.

And those peoples have found themselves governed by clowns, who run and are elected on "populist" ideas, while lining their own pockets and creating oligarchies of their own.

They only real threat that South American Democracies pose to the United States of America, aren't nuclear ambitions, or their economies, is that when it comes to our Democracy in World history we can accurately be compared to them, and the direction in which we're all headed as Americans.

So boo-fucking-hoo, Obama can't lead.