Marriage Bill in Minnesota

[Rolyo85]

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/0...ill-this-week/

While talking with Esme Murphy on WCCO Sunday Morning, Minnesota Senator Scott Dibble said he plans to introduce a bill to legalize gay marriage this week.

Dibble believes this legislation has the momentum to pass after voters defeated a constitutional amendment that would’ve strengthened the existing gay marriage ban.

I wish I could see Kalley Yanta's face now...

[White Eagle]

I'm liking the trend lately with making legislation for marriage. Keep it up!

BTW Where is everyone today; I cannot find many new posts or threads, and I'm hearing Ryan and Paul making news.

[tigerfan482]

I'm liking the trend lately with making legislation for marriage. Keep it up!

BTW Where is everyone today; I cannot find many new posts or threads, and I'm hearing Ryan and Paul making news.

Any news those two make is centered on the fact that the public is just dumbfounded with the amount of stupidity an individual can come up with and then let leak out of his face hole.

That being said, I'm glad to see more legislation in more states for gay marriage. The list of states I could consider living in is looking like it may increase.

[scream4ever]

Thanks for sharing the news about Minnesota Republicans Jockboy! That'll certainly help the bill's prospects of passing. It will likely require bipartisan support to pass, at least in the House (we already have one supportive Republican, Tim Kelly).

The momentum here is indeed unbelievable. All our past volunteers are ready and eager to get back to work (many already are!). The other side is planning a rally of their own on March 7th, but we plan to already be calling people in swing districts and urging them to contact their legislators.

At the rally last week I actually saw Jason Adkins and John Helmberger of Minnesota for Marriage snooping around. Apparently they wanted to take notes from the experts

Speaking of Kalley Yanta, check out what she's been up to post election day:

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you...ley-yanta.html

I NEVER tire of hearing that; "Failed Minnesota For Marriage campaign"!

[Ninja108]

Kelly Yanta..nice to see that in many areas..people are seeing these anti gay folks for what they are..bigots plain and simple,no matter how "nice" they are.

[Rolyo85]

That's what six pregnancies and five miscarriages do to you...

[justanothershyguy]

youfiad is a Minnesota boy too. I'm 20 minutes from the border, that's plenty close enough to hop & get married!

Go Minnesota!

[TX-Beau]

That's what six pregnancies and five miscarriages do to you...

You'd think she'd want more men around who don't care to impregnate her.

[scream4ever]

Major development and good news:

GOP Minnesota legislator preparing to co-sponsor gay marriage bill

http://www.startribune.com/politics/...1.html?refer=y

[scream4ever]

"although we need it more in the House than the Senate."

Maybe not actually. In the House the two DFLers who voted for the marriage amendment are gone, while in the Senate two have already said they will vote against marriage equality legislation.

[Rolyo85]

I like that more and more GOPers break away from the stagnant dogma of their party.

[DreamDancer310]

It took my straight cousin pointing this out to me for me to REALLY grasp it...and this is her words:

"When you REALLY think about it, it's insane that this government that gays pay a boat load of taxes to penalizes them from over 1,500 benefits because the person they fall in love with doesn't have a vagina or penis. There's something really messed up about that"

and it really is. It was so perfectly and bluntly stated but summed it up in a really on point way. I mean, here I am paying a massive amount of taxes that benefits straight people and their off spring, but I can't be afforded a civil marriage and get a license at by the state because I'm inherently in love with a grown ass consenting adult?

what does the Bible and those who subscribe to it have anything to do with any of the logistics I just mentioned (aka~ walking to a state court house/ civil marriage/ marriage license/ government provided benefits/ equal in the law of the land)...how in the heck does the bible make an appearance in any of the points above?

[DreamDancer310]

I also think, politically speaking, an Illinois marriage equality win would be more beneficial in term of supreme court ruling, and in terms of attaining more momentum. But I welcome any and all wins! Let's go equality 2013.

[DreamDancer310]

and well said jock boy! across the board.

[Rolyo85]

Aaaaand, it got killed -_-

[Rolyo85]

Oh oops *bblush*

[scream4ever]

New Mexico I felt was a bit too soon. I really think we should push for Colorado in 2014. The ban passed in 2006 with less then 56% support. Based on the math it should be easily passable in November of 2014.

[The Fly]

I live in MN. and from what I've heard from some friends is that former Gov. Carlson's (R) seems supportive of marriage equality. He's saying positive things behind the scene, but who knows what, if anything, that will mean. The republican party of MN aren't real happy with him right now because of his public opposition to the marriage amendment and voter I.D. amendment. He's never been one of the far right nutjobs to begin with.

[Rolyo85]

Got the abbreviation right this time


The bill was just introduced:

http://www.joemygod.blogspot.com/201...duced.html?m=1

[Rolyo85]

He is ridiculously well connected and knows everyone in the gay politics scene. Which would be why I'm pumping the refresh on his blog all day, every work day.

[Rolyo85]

I used to follow equality on trial, but it's way too technical for me, and Joe gives me the dumbed down version before them anyway. It's interesting when I feel like reading an analysis though.

[Ninja108]

According to a poll,more people oppose it then support it. To that I say who cares?! History will be the judge here.

[Ninja108]

I'm sorry but I view "ex-gays"who try to take our rights more loathesome then anyone else.

[Rolyo85]

I find "ex-gays" to be more loathsome than anyone else, period.

[scream4ever]

It passed out of the Senate committee!!! The House committee is expected to do the same later this evening. As a Minnesota resident who has been active in this effort for 2 years it's beyond exciting!!!

[youfiad]

youfiad is a Minnesota boy too. I'm 20 minutes from the border, that's plenty close enough to hop & get married!

Go Minnesota!

Haha, yes. Actually, as far as states are concerned, I do firmly believe that Minnesota is on the top of the progressive list and I am a little flabbergasted that this whole same sex marriage hasn't gone through sooner. Minnesota has the longest running tradition of voting democratic in elections and has been in the forefront of passing progressive laws. Generally, I am happy that I was born in Minnesota, however, things aren't always so perfect. We still struggle with a large anti-gay babyboomer generation and general ignorant conservative farming community population that almost made allowed the marriage amendment to pass in Novermber. Now that they have lost, they've been bitching and moaning about same sex marriage and I can't wait until the inevitable happens and we can shove it back in their face (no pun intended) and tell them, "Thank you for bringing this issue to a greater public; nothing helps pass a law more than discrimination and biggotry".

Cool. I hope he visits this thread and gives us his take on things in his area.

Lurkers from Minnesota, same to you guys

Sorry. I'm actually quite flattered that people even remembered that I exist and am from Minnesota!

Now, sadly, I've been so focused on graduating, projects, speeches, research, and more research, and work that I have not paid attention to anything that has happened in the world really. So really, I had absolutely no idea that this was even a current event. I wish I could chime in more! If this continues to be a topic in the future, I will most definately be commenting.

[Ninja108]

only bad thing is it might give a couple of the Supreme Court Justices reason to not vote down DOMA and Prop 8 when they see states like Colorado,Minnesota and Illinois passing these bills but we can't let that stop us. Full steam ahead!

[Rolyo85]

only bad thing is it might give a couple of the Supreme Court Justices reason to not vote down DOMA and Prop 8 when they see states like Colorado,Minnesota and Illinois passing these bills but we can't let that stop us. Full steam ahead!

I fail to see the connection. DOMA has federal relevance that's completely unrelated to state issues.

[scream4ever]

only bad thing is it might give a couple of the Supreme Court Justices reason to not vote down DOMA and Prop 8 when they see states like Colorado,Minnesota and Illinois passing these bills but we can't let that stop us. Full steam ahead!

I strongly doubt that. There are still many examples of gays being "politically powerless".

[Ninja108]

I strongly doubt that. There are still many examples of gays being "politically powerless".

I know that but you just know the anti-gays are going to point to stuff like this while ignoring the 30 other states.

[Ninja108]

Keeping the fingers crossed.

[Ninja108]

http://www.minnpost.com/politics-pol...ompromise-idea

Looks like the Republicans know they might lose,hence the half assed civil unions bill they are offering.

[scream4ever]

http://www.minnpost.com/politics-pol...ompromise-idea

Looks like the Republicans know they might lose,hence the half assed civil unions bill they are offering.

This is a total joke. I predict that in the end Kelly's amendment attempt will fail and he'll end up voting in favor of the marriage bill. He was a big supporter of the Vote No campaign and everyone is very shocked that he's doing this at all.

[Ninja108]

I think in his mind he doesn't think the gay marriage thing will pass and this is the next best thing. It's still a joke. As for being shocked,he is a politcion after all.

[Ninja108]

http://www.twincities.com/politics/c...ats?source=rss

Sad to say but it very well may be dead. The only "good" thing is Republicans will back a bill for civil unions,even though that bill is a joke.

[scream4ever]

Ninja, I know you can be a debbie downer, but let me say that I am working very closely with this campaign and know many exact numbers. The bill is much closer to passage then you think.

[Ninja108]

Ninja, I know you can be a debbie downer, but let me say that I am working very closely with this campaign and know many exact numbers. The bill is much closer to passage then you think.

I don't like to be a debbie downer,just going by prior experiences sadly. I know in NY they dragged their feet as long as they could,was proud to play a part in getting it passed,even though my role wasn't as large as others.

[Rolyo85]

No, you're pretty much a Debbie downer you constantly profess gloom and doom with all these movements, despite the obvious change of opinion in the country and the tidal wave of political support that's risen in the last few months. Understand - the gay rights movement is winning, and fast. We haven't had a single loss since NC, and even that was in the middle of a winning streak.

[TX-Beau]

I don't see how the progress we've made can be seen as anything but phenomenal - I can remember a time when Marriage wasn't even considered a possibility in our lifetimes.

Now we're debating where it will happen next.

[Ninja108]

I fully understand the gay rights movement is winning. For the first time,gay marriage rights won at the ballot box in the fall. For the first time,gay marriage foes are the ones on the defensive and Republicans realize that running on an anti-gay platform in all but the reddest states is no longer a winning issue.
I also understand that something like a sure thing isn't so until the ink is dried on the bill. I do think there will be marriage equality in Minnesota and Illinois sooner versus later,I just don't know if this year will be that year.

[Ninja108]

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/0...minn-capitol/#

Like the one woman who has been waiting 36 years said,the it's too early excuse is getting old fast. I was more hopeful at the start then I am now..there are too many cowards to do the right thing,which is another reason why it's stupid for the Supreme Court to go the states right's route. We'll be waiting a long time in that case.

[Ninja108]

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/25/minn...e_to_churches/

Unbelievable. If this doesn't establish that civil unions are seperate but unequal,nothing will. In MN and elsewhere,people have fought tooth and nail against civil unions as well.
They only get offered when it's clear the votes would be there for gay marriage as a smokescreen to hide the fact that even if DOMA is struck down,civil unions won't be acknowledged by the Federal Government,only marriage.
I could be wrong..but it still sadly looks like the votes aren't there in Minnesota.

[Ninja108]

This bill won't get anywhere,as it would also effect straight couples as well. It's simply a smokescreen and nothing more. And I'm dispointed that people like Kim Norton are going along with it.

[scream4ever]

In the end, Norton will vote for the marriage bill. This is simply an attempt to distract from the issue and it isn't working for them. Today the legislature is poised to approve the budget, and an announcement of a vote will likely occur early next week.

[Ninja108]

It isn't working for them because it's obvious at this point it's clear civil unions are seperate but unequal and are only being offered as a way to stop marriage equality.
Be nice to see Illinois and Minnesota join Iowa in the Midwest.

[scream4ever]

House vote scheduled for Thursday!

http://www.towleroad.com/2013/05/min...-thursday.html

[Ninja108]

Keeping the fingers crossed that what they say about not bringing the bill to the floor unless there were votes is true. Minnesota would make a huge statement.

[rareboy]

Wishing for the best for all my homo friends in Minnesota.

[Ninja108]

We'll have to wait and see. Too bad Jockboy87 isn't here to give us the nitty gritty...

[Ninja108]

It passed 75-59,which means some brave Republicans voted yes for it. I really still think I'm dreaming.