Would You Hand A Loved One Into The Police ?

[xbuzzerx]

It depends so much on what they did.

Most things--- no.

[eastofeden]

In most cases...no...my loyalty runs really deep...

For serious things...I would have a horrible struggle with my conscience and if anything I would try to get them to turn themself in before I did it.

[Sparky-Sparky-Boom-Boom]

NO, I'll blackmail them lol.

[swerve]

No...

[swerve]

The answer was NO with a PERIOD!!!

[refujiunderground]

depends on what it is exactly. if it's something REALLY serious, then yeah, i'd talk. certainly wouldn't want to be around a serial killer or a rapist.

[xbuzzerx]

In most cases...no...my loyalty runs really deep...

For serious things...I would have a horrible struggle with my conscience and if anything I would try to get them to turn themself in before I did it.

Same for me. Even for the really serious stuff, it would come down to a question of do I believe what they did shows that they are a continuing danger to themselves or others, or if they need help.

[alphaxxx]

I agree with the general consensus.
Anything like GBH, assault, rape and murder and I'd be straight to the station.

[LeicsDom]

It depends a) on the crime and b) on the relative
Some of my relatives I would shop for parking offences!

[eastofeden]

Same for me. Even for the really serious stuff, it would come down to a question of do I believe what they did shows that they are a continuing danger to themselves or others, or if they need help.

Yeah...that's it for me too. For instance...if someone I loved was raped and hunted down their rapist and killed them...I would most not turn them in but if I saw they were going to make a career out of it I would try to stop them or get them help.

[FPNY]

I'm ashamed of all of those of you who would rather have a criminal in their midst then do the right thing and have a criminal pay for what they did. What about any potential victims? How would they feel knowing that you knew who perpetrated a crime against them and did nothing, approving of the criminal activity.

[G-Lexington]

Only if Sting, Andy and Stewart had a good reason for wanting them.

Lex

[Sultan]

If it was for their best interest, ie. drug addicted, murderer, .... possibly. They might hate me forever but depending on the situation, it might be the best thing for them.

[Rolyo85]

It would depend way too much on context. In the right context, I could hide a murderer. In the wrong one, I'd turn them in for shoplifting. I think the only one that wouldn't depend on context is rape. Then I might commit some crime on them myself first...

[hanzosword]

I would turn them in for murder, rape or some serious abuse. I would turn a blind eye to things like drugs or stealing cable or something like that lol.

[youfiad]

It honestly depends. I would love to say that I would turn them in for very severe crimes but if I were put in the real situation, I may not. It's one of those things that only time would time.

[JayHawk]

Nope .

[swerve]

Yes. Blood is not thicker than water.

But, I would not do so before counseling the relative to turn himself in.

There may be possible exceptions for harm to the weak, as in domestic abuse, etc., and complete overlooking of stuff like expired tags or drivers license.

In all cases, it would not be for compliance for the sake of compliance, but for the intrinsic value of public safety which is what most laws I'd enforce would be about.

YOU are a HARD ASS, Hard-up!!!

[maxpowr9]

I would but that is due to childhood trauma.

[Zaphod]

It would depend on the family member and the crime.

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

police turn umself inta police ans take da rest wit um any land okay

happy time makin baskets

thankyou

[pat grimshaw]

I have met SO many Irish-Catholics who insist over and over that blood is thicker than water.…and that their family is more important than any police force.

[eastofeden]

In my mind...family does not equal "loved ones"...

......though my answer would most likely be the same...just for different reasons.

[mikey3000]

No. I'd try to convince them that they must turn themselves in. If they disagree, I'd turn away from them for good and they'd never see me again.

[xbuzzerx]

In my mind...family does not equal "loved ones"...

......though my answer would most likely be the same...just for different reasons.

Agreed. I wasn't picturing "oh my cousin molested a kid." Of course I'd turn in a cousin. (I'm not very close with my cousins.)

I'm picturing best friend comes to me in tears having killed someone. Turning right around and calling the police on them would seem a really cold thing to do, unless he was a continuing threat to people or was in severe need of mental help.

[loveguys72]

For serious crimes, yes. Minor offences, no.

[borg69unimatrix]

Is there a reward ? $$$ talks.

[swerve]

Is there a reward ? $$$ talks.

Now YOU are changing the whole DIMENSION of the TOPIC...

[borg69unimatrix]

Odds are they're going to get caught anyway. May as well cash in before they're gone.



No - I'm not really that cold.

[justanothershyguy]

Hmm.

My immediate family would have do something really messed up. Murder/rape would do that, I think.

Some of my other family, well... That changes things. Probably depends on their demeanor towards me...

[Acanthophis]

I'm ashamed of all of those of you who would rather have a criminal in their midst then do the right thing and have a criminal pay for what they did. What about any potential victims? How would they feel knowing that you knew who perpetrated a crime against them and did nothing, approving of the criminal activity.

Morality is a made up concept, unless you believe in the 'greater good' then there isn't really a *right* or a *wrong*. Which is the reason people from the Westboro Bapist Church can sleep at night, because they have different morals than most people.

I doubt I'd turn my parents or siblings over to the law, but a spouse - I wouldn't hesitate for a moment (depending on how severe it is of course).

I seem to end up in these types of conversations quite often, people often mistake my understanding of the differences of opinion for justifying the actions of 'bad' people.

[PreTTy PeTe]

Yes. murder, rape, child abuse, or anything like that.

basic theft I turn a blind eye too but if it was a home invasion then the person is fucked up.

[xbuzzerx]

I think people are saying too quickly they'd do it even for murder.

Imagine your mom did it. Imagine she had reasons.

You'd be the one to send her off to prison, possibly for the rest of her life, severing all relationship with her forever?

I imagine that's harder than it is to say you'd do it.

[bankside]

I was going to say I agreed with this:

depends on the crime and the circumstances.

stuff like rape, murder, or assault and I wouldn't hesitate.

drug possession, internet piracy, a minor fender-bender.... probably not, unless there were mitigating factors.

but then I read this:

It depends a) on the crime and b) on the relative
Some of my relatives I would shop for parking offences!

Absolutely true!

[loveguys72]

I think people are saying too quickly they'd do it even for murder.

Imagine your mom did it. Imagine she had reasons.

You'd be the one to send her off to prison, possibly for the rest of her life, severing all relationship with her forever?

I imagine that's harder than it is to say you'd do it.

If my mom murdered someone, but there were extenuating circumstances, I'd still turn her in (if she didn't turn herself in first), but I'd also hire the best criminal defence attorney I could.

[swerve]

^I think that "loved ones" in THIS thread is too often translated into family...

WHAT IF it was your PARTNER...

A REAL "loved one"...

For something as SILLY as admitting that when he was in high school and an 18 YO senior slept with a 15 YO sophomore...

Are you going to CALL THE COPS???

Its just a SILLY proposition...

[Scealle]

It really depends on the situation. If something mild like thief, self-defence etc. I can turn a blind eye.

[Stoowii]

It depends if it involves another loved one. Then I'd have to choose sides. But for the most part, no, I would not turn them in.

[Benjoe]

Everyone always thinks of murder as being the worst crime you can commit, this thread shows it with all the 'only if they committed murder' views and it's the only crime in the US that gives the death penalty right?

I'm going to get flamed for this I can see it coming... But honestly I don't think it's nearly as bad as a lot of other crimes that carry far more lenient sentences. Ofcourse it depends on the circumstances, but say you come home from work one day early to find your partner in bed with another guy... Well i'm not saying I would kill him, I honestly don't know what I would do, i'd probably be in shock and just stand there but I couldn't rule out the possibility.

Child porn, child abuse or rape or what that woman did the other day having her 14 year old daughter raped by two men so she could film it. Well if that was my daughter then hell yes i'd kill them all.

I would only turn a loved one in if their crime was something involving hurting kids, rape or extreme nasty stuff. If a boyfriend got in a bar fight and ended up killing someone I wouldn't sell them down the river.

[sixthson]

Sometimes, one of the worst things that can happen to a person is to get away with wrongdoing.
In one sense, if the person has a conscience, they never really get away with it. It nags and maybe even
haunts them for years. On the other hand, some people have no conscience and quickly learn if they got away with
it once, they can do it again. They become serial criminals.

I have to be honest, however, if it were my child, my protective instincts would kick in and it would not be so easy to
take a clear cut stance as it might be with a brother who has been an asshole. While love might try to cover up some sin, it
doesn't make it right. Knowing what is the right thing to do and doing it are two different things.

[Falcon16]

The nature of the crime and the nature of the relative will dictate my decision.

[RonR18]

It depends on whether you're the relative, and whether the reward is more than just a cherry pie...

[borg69unimatrix]

It depends on whether you're the relative, and whether the reward is more than just a cherry pie...

... Wish I'd have thought of that.

[Falcon16]

How could anybody turn that guy in?

[RonR18]

I wouldn't turn him in for cherry pie...butt cherry cheesecake? That might give me pause for thought.

[Falcon16]

Cherry Cheesecake??? Oh dear...decisions, decisions.

Wait...what? It's Seth! What am I thinking...No way...

[Scealle]

I want more than Just a Cherry Pie Reward Now

[xbuzzerx]

Everyone always thinks of murder as being the worst crime you can commit, this thread shows it with all the 'only if they committed murder' views and it's the only crime in the US that gives the death penalty right?

I'm going to get flamed for this I can see it coming... But honestly I don't think it's nearly as bad as a lot of other crimes that carry far more lenient sentences. Ofcourse it depends on the circumstances, but say you come home from work one day early to find your partner in bed with another guy... Well i'm not saying I would kill him, I honestly don't know what I would do, i'd probably be in shock and just stand there but I couldn't rule out the possibility.

Child porn, child abuse or rape or what that woman did the other day having her 14 year old daughter raped by two men so she could film it. Well if that was my daughter then hell yes i'd kill them all.

I would only turn a loved one in if their crime was something involving hurting kids, rape or extreme nasty stuff. If a boyfriend got in a bar fight and ended up killing someone I wouldn't sell them down the river.

I'll out myself here as having watched an anime...

Has anyone ever heard of the anime 'Death Note'? It addressed exactly this topic. There is a part where the protagonist talks about how, if asked in a classroom, everyone will agree "killing is wrong." It's what everyone is expected to say, and it's what they will say if asked.

What happens in 'Death Note' is one person gets the power to kill anyone he wants by putting their name in a book. He does it with criminals, he does it with people who got away with crimes on technicalities. And he becomes a massively loved, almost worshipped villain for it.

No, of course I don't think killing is right. But I think it's one thing to be the student in the classroom standing up and saying "killing is wrong." It's another to be presented with a situation where someone-- with reasons, or whatever else, has killed someone else. It was not too terribly long ago that we had wealthy leaders who had killed people in duels-- didn't one U.S. President or Vice-President do it? (Can't recall exactly.) I think even if we all agree murder is wrong (and I think we do), once the act is done it still comes down to context for me. I'll be honest. There are situations I could understand someone killing someone else outside the bounds of the law. That's not the same as approving of it. But I could understand it. And at that point if I did not believe the person was a continuing threat to anyone, turning them in doesn't bring the dead person back.

[borg69unimatrix]

So we all agree that *IF* your loved one happens to be a Vigilante Super Hero that only kills bad guys, or by accident then it's ok.

[star-warrior]

I agree with some folks here. The the person does something of immediate danger to someone or to other people's property, yes, I would, providing the law enforcement are known to be reasonable. If I know I lived somewhere where you're likely to die in a police station, then no, probably, unless the little shit deserved it.