Alabama man pleads guilty to obscenity charges after rubbing his genitals on an unconscious LSU fan after BCS title game

[pat grimshaw]

it seems like a drunken prank to me.

[G-Lexington]

I'm surprised this made it as far as it did. I've more or less been resigned to the belief that "that's how sports fans can get sometimes", where the main thought in this case would've been "Why was the LSU fan so dumb as to pass out where the Alabama fans could get at him?" And where the main response to this sentencing would be "LSU fans are pussies".

Lex

[kevin23]

The charge was sexual battery, plea deal to obscenity charges.

He will likely serve 2 or 3 months and then get probation. I think they are making a point, they don't want their fans to create a bad image of the school.

[cgymike]

If seminal fluids were found add 12 years to sentence.

[pat grimshaw]

There at least a thousand pictures on JUB showing English, European and South American football players stripping off and getting drunk, kissing and frolicking

[HunterM]

There at least a thousand pictures on JUB showing English, European and South American football players stripping off and getting drunk, kissing and frolicking

Well, when all parties participated willingly (although drunk), it's all fun. If it's not consensual, it's a crime.

[Telstra]

http://www.nydailynews.com/alabama-m...icle-1.1172822

He's looking at a likelihood of two years in prison. I'm shocked they aren't going to register him as a "sex offender," though. They tend to give that to people who have consensual sex in public places. This, IMO, is definitely more of a sex offense.

Put you in jail first !!!


NaughtyArousal i think you are sexually conservatively weird.

[pat grimshaw]

[G-Lexington]

Two years recommended is pretty serious, though. Kinda shocked at that. I think a smaller sentence yet making him register as a sex offender would be better.

Only if you think "registering as a sex offender" is going easier on someone than a two-year sentence. I hardly think it is. Chances are he'll get out in two months (first time offender), maybe take some classes ("alcohol treatment classes" or "anger management classes" - doesn't really matter), and then walk out with a relatively clean record - I doubt he'll have trouble finding employment in Alabama, for instance. The sex offender thing is for life.

Lex

[ChickenGuy]

NaughtyArousal i think you are sexually conservatively weird.

Of all words possible I can think of to sexually describe NaughtyArousal, 'conservative' would be the LAST.

[Telstra]

Of all words possible I can think of to sexually describe NaughtyArousal, 'conservative' would be the LAST.

Well he thinks nudity in the gym change room is weird LOL

[pat grimshaw]

Of all words possible I can think of to sexually describe NaughtyArousal, 'conservative' would be the LAST.

I'd use the words 'intelligent' and 'principled' yet also 'egotistical and 'downright perverse'.

Unfortunately he has me on his Ignore List…and he thinks being an artist will give him an escape from his issues. He'd be a psychiatrist's dream!

[Telstra]

Telstra...you, of all people here, shouldn't be saying anyone has weird thoughts

I'm special LOL

[star-warrior]

Playing a few secs from that, it seems others were willing to do the same. The girl friend of another guy blocked him from exposing himself, and probably saved him from a similar legal suit, jail time, and damages.

[purina]

This clip's uncensored.

[Telstra]

This clip's uncensored.

there was nothing in it.
The media made a big deal out of this. Slow news day ?

[pat grimshaw]

This clip's uncensored.

I don't want to spend 5 minutes watching drunk idiots again! At what point did the so-called offence happen?

[purina]

Finger up nose 1:03 to 1:44, genitals out 3:27 to 4:39.

[pat grimshaw]

^
OK. so the flesh may touch at 3.47. But I reckon it's a trivial incident and the judge must have come out on the Mayflower

[swerve]

You have got to be KIDDING me???

There is NO CRIME here...

We are putting WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE in jail for NO GOOD reason...

He should have fought the charges...

[Telstra]

You have got to be KIDDING me???

There is NO CRIME here...

We are putting WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE in jail for NO GOOD reason...

He should have fought the charges...

Some bad people are supporting the money hungry prison industry.

[wilbur33]

This is the picture caption from the article linked by NA:

Brian Downing, who pleads guilty on Tuesday, is scene here escorted by detectives for his booking on sexual battery and obscenity charges in January.

GAAAAH! It's SEEN, not SCENE! Fucking sub-editors really need to get their fucking shit together.....

[G-Lexington]

Can the severity of the punishment be linked to how attractive the guy is? Ugly guy gets six months, hot guy gets a second date?

Lex

[Telstra]

Did you actually watch the video or are you blind? He took his balls out at 3:30 and humped the guys face while he was passed out.



Please explain, I would love to hear this.

What the hell kind of world do you live in where this shouldn't be considered a crime? Taking your genitals and rubbing them on someone who is passed out, which clearly means it isn't consensual.

I did watch. There was NOTHING in it.

[pat grimshaw]

One of the many things my parents taught me was to never ever fall asleep in a public place. Thieves are everywhere. But to be unconscious in a public place is asking for trouble.

[pat grimshaw]

I wouldn't fall asleep in the middle of the road on a dark night.

[swerve]

Please explain, I would love to hear this.

What the hell kind of world do you live in where this shouldn't be considered a crime? Taking your genitals and rubbing them on someone who is passed out, which clearly means it isn't consensual.

I lived 3 years in a fraternity house -- that shit happened ALL THE TIME!!!

And -- YES -- pictures were ALWAYS taken...

For any young college guy (like the ones in the video) -- it is a KNOWN QUANTITY that IF you pass out in a public space -- hijinks will PROBABLY follow...

There was no MALICE in that video -- just a bunch of drunk college kids having an AWESOME time...

[Ninja108]

All due respect to some posters here,what this guy did IS a crime. It is a good thing to pass out drunk in public? No it isn't but that does NOT give someone the right to put their hands/leg or sexual organs on you without your consent.
I really can't see the humor in this at all.

[G-Lexington]

We've apparently made "hilarious hijinks" a crime now. Damn killjoys.

Lex

[refujiunderground]

don't feel sorry for him at all. that was out of line. the punishment is outrageous but still he put himself in that situation doing something like that. wtf was he thinking pulling down his pants and sticking his dick in somebody's ear in front of everybody like that? what an idiot.

[Ninja108]

The charge was sexual battery, plea deal to obscenity charges.

He will likely serve 2 or 3 months and then get probation. I think they are making a point, they don't want their fans to create a bad image of the school.

Perhaps the point they are making is you don't do things like this guy did to someone without their consent.

[pat grimshaw]

Perhaps the point they are making is you don't do things like this guy did to someone without their consent.

The point I'm making is that this guy could've take some responsibility for his own safety and not rely on the fickle heavy hand of 'Big Brother'.

[G-Lexington]

I think the point he's making is that if this guy had been female, and they had raped her, she totally would've been asking for it.

Lex

[pat grimshaw]

^ No, I'm not.

But, as I said before, I wouldn't allow myself to fall asleep in the middle of the road on a dark night.

[Beachguyj]

[pat grimshaw]

^ What women?

[pat grimshaw]

^

he was being hypothetical;

this thread gets exhausting when people are expected to have a "duty of care" for others rather than take personal responsibility

[Just_Believe18]

One of the many things my parents taught me was to never ever fall asleep in a public place. Thieves are everywhere. But to be unconscious in a public place is asking for trouble.

And I suppose the woman walking alone at night to her car was just asking to be raped by a man. It's her fault, right?

Regardless if the man was passed out and was not conscious of being sexually assaulted, it is still a crime. His face is now all over the Internet as it is being molested by another man's sweaty balls. How disgusting and perverse. I have no sympathy for this sick, perverted guy, and he deserves the charges set against him.

[G-Lexington]

Well, let's pull away from rape and sweaty balls for a minute. I mean, if you can bear doing so.

As a pedestrian, I've been struck by a car twice. Both times, I was knocked on my ass, but otherwise unhurt. Amd both times, I was doing the same thing when I was struck. I was walking across the street, with a walk signal. And a driver turned right, going from parallel-to-me to perpendicular, and struck me.

So here's the question. Who's fault was this? If I had been severely injured, who would shoulder the blame? Legally, there's no question. The driver was. I had the walk signal, which technically gives me the right of way. But pat's point, if there must be one, s tgat I should look out for my own safety. I should beware and be aware that right turners can and do create a hazard in those situations. And you can bet after being knocked on my ass a couple times, I keep my eyes peeled for them. Not because I know I'm wrong. Not because "I'm just asking to get hit walking across the street during those times". But because I don't like getting hit by cars. Being legally "right" may help the lawsuit and may pay or the hospital bills, but I'd just as soon not visit the hospital, thanks. I'll keep my eyes open instead.

This guy wasn't asking for balls-to-the-face. But the best way to avoid balls to the face isn't to have strong laws on the books to discourage balls to the face. It's to not put yourself in a position where it coud happen. This trial didn't undo him having balls on hs face. He's now just a guy who had balls to the face who got the guy put in jail.

Lex

[swerve]

It THAT was a FUCKING CRIME -- then maybe I should move to the SOVIET UNION!!!

You know -- the place that existed BEFORE it was DEMOLISHED by FREEDOM!!!

MY GOD...

What kind of a society do we want to LIVE in???

SERIOUSLY...

[Telstra]

I know what he is doing and I know what you're doing. You're dodging.

No one brought in personal responsibility besides you. I just argued that it doesn't excuse the crime or any crime committed, but you clearly show an inability to understand that.

The video clearly shows it was a stupid childish joke. It was not a "crime".
If you want to put nearly everyone in prison, yes maybe it is a crime and you should go to jail too.

[Ninja108]

Some of the posts in this thread show why so many of these types of crimes are still undereported. Going by the logic here,if you pass out,it's your own fault if you get sexually abused and you shouldn't go to police.
As for the big bad government argument..I missed where putting one's sexual organs on someone else without their consent was ever a human right's issue.

[pat grimshaw]

^

No, Ninja. Not at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

[Ohiospeedo]

I agree that the act of him placing his balls on a passed out person is heinous, but I don't think that we should be sending him to prison. What a waste of taxpayer money. Let them fight it out in civil court. That will be more punishment enough for the asshole.

[pat grimshaw]

This family woman in the pink cardigan has described him as 'morally reprehensible and lewd' and allowed the perpetrator to do a plea bargain to get 'boot camp' and gaol.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/br...e-video-85869/

[refujiunderground]

It THAT was a FUCKING CRIME -- then maybe I should move to the SOVIET UNION!!!

You know -- the place that existed BEFORE it was DEMOLISHED by FREEDOM!!!

MY GOD...

What kind of a society do we want to LIVE in???

SERIOUSLY...

let's say you happened to be on a subway train heading home from a hard day of work and fell asleep. some random guy comes in with a group of his friends and decides that it would be funny to smack his dick against your forehead and violate your face with it until he skeets for fun. would you be saying the same thing?

[star-warrior]

let's say you happened to be on a subway train heading home from a hard day of work and fell asleep. some random guy comes in with a group of his friends and decides that it would be funny to smack his dick against your forehead and violate your face with it until he skeets for fun. would you be saying the same thing?

I was in a queue the other day and a lady bumped into my elbow with her 44's. Did I feel assaulted? Did she? Should I litigate? What happens if she litigates? Oh fuck, what's wrong with people and easy litigation?

[refujiunderground]

I was in a queue the other day and a lady bumped into my elbow with her 44's. Did I feel assaulted? Did she? Should I litigate? What happens if she litigates? Oh fuck, what's wrong with people and easy litigation?

okay, for a second, i was going to ask you what 44's were. you're talking about breasts right? if not then what are 44's then?

and breh, there's a difference between someone accidently bumping into you and someone intentionally doing it.

i respect you guys opinion but i think it's ridiculous to tell someone to smile when they've been sexually assaulted. you do realize that what that guy did to the other guy was sexual assault. what happened if the guy had herpes or a std? that could have happened to the dude.

what would you do if that guy were you? how would you handle it? would you be smiling and acting okay when you had a guy basically shoving his dick into your face and starts humping you in front of everybody. folks all laughing at you and taping you the whole incident with videos appearing on youtube. me personally, the dude should be locked up for even doing something so stupid.

[xbuzzerx]

I was in a queue the other day and a lady bumped into my elbow with her 44's. Did I feel assaulted? Did she? Should I litigate? What happens if she litigates? Oh fuck, what's wrong with people and easy litigation?

Accidental bumping?

Apples. Oranges. Really bad argument.

[HunterM]

Accidental bumping?

Apples. Oranges. Really bad argument.

No, no, no. It's apples and bananas!