Str8 Curios Gay Guy--Finally Tried Pussy

[Kyanimal]

Diego definitely has a nice Butt!

[Hot4Latinos]

yep.....love those hot brazilian boys

[MissAnne]

Ill leave male asses to you boys. I dont know why, but bubble butts on men is kind of a turn off for me.

[MissAnne]

But ladies' asses make your "lady parts happy," eh?

Let me put it this way. Im not really an "ass woman". Sometimes I enjoy looking at a woman's ass, sometimes I don't. Im dont really dig curves on men. I have enjoyed Jake Gyllenhaal and Channing Tatum's asses, probably because they dont have very curvy bums. Plus when I seperate it from the rest of the male body, its kind of like staring at a wall. I think that when I do enjoy male asses its just because its apart of the whole naked package.

[MissAnne]

But you can get hot over a woman's ass by itself, separated from the rest of the package like in the pic above, right? In other words, isolated female parts can turn you on, but not so much on a man?

Sometimes. I dont really like large asses on women either. And I do get 'hot' over an isolated cock. I think that when people get excited about isolated body parts, you are thinking about what you would do with it. Most likely the only thing that I would be doing with a man's ass is squeezing it. But for others that enjoy rimming, fingering, anal sex, they see more possibilities.

[Hot4Latinos]

well and its a gender thing too i think. men tend to isolate parts because we're more visual

oh and just to keep u all up to date. Met a guy on adultfriendfinder. have been chatting with him and his g/f. she just showed me pics of them both. Speaking of male vs. female perspective: The pics he took of her are her tits and ass (her ass is P{ERFECT, btw). The pic she took of him is his face mostly, but he's shirtless sitting by the pool so you see his chesy and a bit of his arms as well. He looks just like Vin Diesel.

[MissAnne]

well and its a gender thing too i think. men tend to isolate parts because we're more visual

oh and just to keep u all up to date. Met a guy on adultfriendfinder. have been chatting with him and his g/f. she just showed me pics of them both. Speaking of male vs. female perspective: The pics he took of her are her tits and ass (her ass is P{ERFECT, btw). The pic she took of him is his face mostly, but he's shirtless sitting by the pool so you see his chesy and a bit of his arms as well. He looks just like Vin Diesel.

You are probably right about the gender differences.

As for the couple, are you going to hookup for a threesome with them ?

[Hot4Latinos]

thats the plan....he's working a lot right now but hopefully soon....she's tried to get me to hook up without him. dunno how i feel about that

[MissAnne]

thats the plan....he's working a lot right now but hopefully soon....she's tried to get me to hook up without him. dunno how i feel about that

Yeah, he may not be cool with that. Either way, be careful and hhave fun.

[Hot4Latinos]

@gaydude65 I dunno. It's still an evolving process. We'll see. For example this couple: If these pics are real, these 2 are like porn star hot. I'm just a skinny twink boy, A bit intimidating...lol

[Hot4Latinos]

lol...i am....i just meant i'm really skinny. I have a hyperthyroid which means I never gain weight.

[MissAnne]

lol...i am....i just meant i'm really skinny. I have a hyperthyroid which means I never gain weight.

I dont think that your size should be a problem. As long as you know what to do with your "equipment" you should be fine.

Side Note: Your real friends will respect you no matter what.

[cyberdolphnow]

Tain't a problem being bi.

Had one gay guy acquaintance (not sex partner) criticize me for "being on the fence" about my sexuality. Just choose or come out, and "get off the fence" type of stuff from him.

I told him "If I'm sitting on the fence then I like the fence post oh, so goooood and my gate swings both ways!" Needless to say that ended his prattle about that subject.

[MisterMajestic]

@ Hot4Latinos...I'm not surprised you enjoyed your first experience Eating pussy.....Although I think you should have gotten your First experience a different way VS that Dick you met up with...One thing you'll notice is Big Girls tend to give up their Pussy quicker than an average-size or Skinny Chick...Big Girls won't admit it but they have serious low-self esteem issues...2 of my Thick Female friends contsntly think about Dick & Food...

Whenever I Eat out a Chick the one thing that always turns me is the moaning and body movement...That's when you know you're doing it right and PRACTICE makes perfect.....Of course I'm a Life-Long Ass man when it comes to both Men & Women, so I Love how a Chick would never expect me to go from Sucking on her Pussy Lips and Eating her out to working my Tongue down to her ButtHole and Crack......I've never been with a Man or Woman that didnt want Tongue in their Crack & Hole....It's always a welcome surprise...Drives them WILD....

Everybody is not into Ass-Play and for the most part Chicks don't think you're gonna ask them to Eat your Ass nor do they think you're gonna Eat there's...When I was in my 20's I was afraid to ask a Chick to Eat my Ass so I let it go and got-off Licking hers...Now that I'm in my 30's I KNOW what satisfies me in the bedroom, but if I can't find a Chick that's into Eating Ass then I'll deff stick with a Dude that will Suck on my ButtHole every time we Fuck-around...

You mentioned early on in this thread about how hard it is to find a Chick to be be with...For me it's easier to find a Chick to date because there's soooooo many Single women out there...It's just a lot harder to find a Black woman that wants a Bisexual Boyfriend....Women want Men that will not CHEAT and they'll never believe a Bi-guy can be faithful...

I've never dated a Woman & a Man at the same time nor have I had sex with a Man and a Woman in the same week...Bi-Guys get a bad rap for being chronic cheaters and Pigs but a lot of us have a NORMAL dating Process like any Hetero or Gay person....

If the only thing I got going for me is a Sexual Relationship with another Bi or Gay Guy then I will enjoy it until it ends...Make no mistake about it I like stability Relationship wise & Career wise...If the Right woman comes along I will be committed 100%...I learned a long time ago that Women know what they want out of a relationship where as the average Bi or Gay Man will hold out on being in a committed relationship because they're looking for a particular type of Guy...Then when that Bi or Gay guy turns 50 he'll settle for ANYBODY because he realizes that Dream-Guy ain't coming....Every guy doesnt have a 13-inch Dick...You might have to settle for 6-inches...

Women don't operate like that...They'll over look the beer-belly and balding hair and even a Guys looks if the guy has other pluses...If a Guy is Nice, has a stable career, Loves his Mother then he's pretty much in the house...

[Kyanimal]

MissAnne

Just want to let you know how much your thoughts, and observations, are Greatly Appreciated!

Your participation has definitely expanded the scope of this discussion. When it's "Just Us Boys", threads can tend to be a 'bit' shallow/narrow, and even devolve into simple 'sword fights'.

I'm absolutely Thrilled to see You aboard! Looking forward to hearing much more from You!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

[Kyanimal]

gaydude

I wouldn't go as far as accusing H4L to have been 'faking it' all those years.

LIFE is not a Yes/No proposition. There is NOTHING set in stone! Hopefully, we all evolve as we continue to explore and discover. And, Real Friends will go along with you on that journey, no matter where it might lead.

All the more reason to ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

[eggsel]

True, but real friendship doesn't mean you have to blindly embrace someone who's been deceiving you. Real friendship is based on honesty and genuineness, not bullshit and facades. Fact is he's a bisexual man who decided early to call himself gay since pussy was hard for him to obtain. Plus, he's gone out of his way to create this fake "super gay" identity with his friends that isn't a reflection of who he really is. If I were his friend, I probably wouldn't dump him, but I would be very annoyed that he's deceived me and have a difficult time trusting him. How would I know when he's being real and when he's being fake?

It's the equivalent of the "super straight" guy who works for Focus on the Family yet is secretly sucking dick on the side, just in reverse. Hard to respect someone like that.

Totally true!

[MissAnne]

True, but real friendship doesn't mean you have to blindly embrace someone who's been deceiving you. Real friendship is based on honesty and genuineness, not bullshit and facades. Fact is he's a bisexual man who decided early to call himself gay since pussy was hard for him to obtain. Plus, he's gone out of his way to create this fake "super gay" identity with his friends that isn't a reflection of who he really is. If I were his friend, I probably wouldn't dump him, but I would be very annoyed that he's deceived me and have a difficult time trusting him. How would I know when he's being real and when he's being fake?

It's the equivalent of the "super straight" guy who works for Focus on the Family yet is secretly sucking dick on the side, just in reverse. Hard to respect someone like that.

I would never get angry over a friend's change in sexuality. That's like getting angry if a friend comes out as gay. If his "friends" get angry over his business its a personal issue. Unless they are romantically involved with H4L it shouldn't matter. Some people feel like they would be loosing a member of their community or jealous of the fact that he can still be "mainstreamed" and they can't. Or they simply may not like bi-sexuals. He doesnt have a body buried in his basement, he just wants to play with girls.

[MissAnne]

MissAnne

Just want to let you know how much your thoughts, and observations, are Greatly Appreciated!

Your participation has definitely expanded the scope of this discussion. When it's "Just Us Boys", threads can tend to be a 'bit' shallow/narrow, and even devolve into simple 'sword fights'.

I'm absolutely Thrilled to see You aboard! Looking forward to hearing much more from You!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

Thank you for saying that. I see your messages all over the forum and they always bring a smile to my face.

[MissAnne]

@ Hot4Latinos...I'm not surprised you enjoyed your first experience Eating pussy.....Although I think you should have gotten your First experience a different way VS that Dick you met up with...One thing you'll notice is Big Girls tend to give up their Pussy quicker than an average-size or Skinny Chick...Big Girls won't admit it but they have serious low-self esteem issues...2 of my Thick Female friends contsntly think about Dick & Food...

Whenever I Eat out a Chick the one thing that always turns me is the moaning and body movement...That's when you know you're doing it right and PRACTICE makes perfect.....Of course I'm a Life-Long Ass man when it comes to both Men & Women, so I Love how a Chick would never expect me to go from Sucking on her Pussy Lips and Eating her out to working my Tongue down to her ButtHole and Crack......I've never been with a Man or Woman that didnt want Tongue in their Crack & Hole....It's always a welcome surprise...Drives them WILD....

Everybody is not into Ass-Play and for the most part Chicks don't think you're gonna ask them to Eat your Ass nor do they think you're gonna Eat there's...When I was in my 20's I was afraid to ask a Chick to Eat my Ass so I let it go and got-off Licking hers...Now that I'm in my 30's I KNOW what satisfies me in the bedroom, but if I can't find a Chick that's into Eating Ass then I'll deff stick with a Dude that will Suck on my ButtHole every time we Fuck-around...

You mentioned early on in this thread about how hard it is to find a Chick to be be with...For me it's easier to find a Chick to date because there's soooooo many Single women out there...It's just a lot harder to find a Black woman that wants a Bisexual Boyfriend....Women want Men that will not CHEAT and they'll never believe a Bi-guy can be faithful...

I've never dated a Woman & a Man at the same time nor have I had sex with a Man and a Woman in the same week...Bi-Guys get a bad rap for being chronic cheaters and Pigs but a lot of us have a NORMAL dating Process like any Hetero or Gay person....

If the only thing I got going for me is a Sexual Relationship with another Bi or Gay Guy then I will enjoy it until it ends...Make no mistake about it I like stability Relationship wise & Career wise...If the Right woman comes along I will be committed 100%...I learned a long time ago that Women know what they want out of a relationship where as the average Bi or Gay Man will hold out on being in a committed relationship because they're looking for a particular type of Guy...Then when that Bi or Gay guy turns 50 he'll settle for ANYBODY because he realizes that Dream-Guy ain't coming....Every guy doesnt have a 13-inch Dick...You might have to settle for 6-inches...

Women don't operate like that...They'll over look the beer-belly and balding hair and even a Guys looks if the guy has other pluses...If a Guy is Nice, has a stable career, Loves his Mother then he's pretty much in the house...

You hit the nail right on the head !

[MissAnne]

That's not what I mean at all. You're missing the fact that he has told us he has gone out of his way to create a "militantly gay" image of himself to his friends that deep down inside he knows is not an accurate portrayal of who he really is. I'm not talking about somebody who has struggled with his sexuality. From the moment he joined this site, he's been the "gay guy who loves pussy." He hasn't "changed" his sexuality; he's just finally started being more honest about it.

Perhaps its because Im not a gay man, but I still dont see why this is producing such angry/hurt feelings on this thread. If I were a long time friend of H4L, I think that I would be more hurt if he didn't tell me because he thought that I would be angry with him. Im not even sure what "militantly gay" would look like. All that really matters is that he is militantly queer. Lets agree to disagree.

[Kyanimal]

That's not what I mean at all. You're missing the fact that he has told us he has gone out of his way to create a "militantly gay" image of himself to his friends that deep down inside he knows is not an accurate portrayal of who he really is. I'm not talking about somebody who has struggled with his sexuality. From the moment he joined this site, he's been the "gay guy who loves pussy." He hasn't "changed" his sexuality; he's just finally started being more honest about it.

H4L has said, admitted to, what you are siting. However, he is stating all that from his Current position of looking BACK on it all.

All of our lives go through stages/phases, and when we are in them, at the time, we may not be fully aware of what we're doing until we reach a point of being able to see it in a different perspective. I wouldn't say he was being deceitful, nor dishonest, THEN. He simply didn't realize until NOW. And, yes, that has lead him to being more honest about it.

By the way, my teens and twenties were the '60s and '70s. So, yeah!, I was a "flower child"!

[Hot4Latinos]

"If you are male and choose other than female you must take the responsibility of owning the key to freedom."
-Patti Smith, "Horses."

[Hot4Latinos]

"In Or Out"


guess there's something wrong with me
guess I don't fit in
no one wants to touch it
no one knows where to begin
I've got more than one membership
to more than one club
and I owe my life
to the people that I love

he looks me up and down
like he knows what time it is
like he's got my number
like he thinks it's his
he says,
call me, Miss DiFranco,
if there's anything I can do
I say,
It's Mr. DiFranco to you

somedays the line I walk
turns out to be straight
other days the line tends to
deviate
I've got no criteria for sex or race
I just want to hear your voice
I just want to see your face

She looks me up and down
like she thinks that I'll mature
like she's got my number
like it belongs to her
she says,
call me, Ms. DiFranco
if there's anything I can do
I say, I've got spots
I've got
stripes, too

their eyes are all asking
are you in, or are you out
and I think, oh man,
what is this about?
tonight you can't put me
up on any shelf
'cause I came here alone
I'm gonna leave by myself

I just want to show you
the way that I feel
and when I get tired
you can take the wheel
to me what's more important
is the person that I bring
not just getting to the same restaraunt
and eating the same thing

guess there's something wrong with me
guess I don't fit in
no one wants to touch it
no one knows where to begin
I've more than one membership
to more than one club
and I owe my life to the people that I love

[Hot4Latinos]

And I'm so over the "bisexuals can't be trusted. Bisexuals will cheat."

I'll say it again: I was in a 15 year same-sex realtionship in which I was COMPLETELY MONOGAMOUS THE ENTIRE TIME.
HE WANTED TO PLAY WITH OTHERS
NOT ME
GET OVER YOURSELVES

[Hot4Latinos]

Human beings of all orientations cheat.

AGAIN: I NEVER CHEATED.

The only thing anyone should assume about a bisexual person is that he or she is sexually attracted to both genders, period.

Thank you.

[Hot4Latinos]

^^Thank you.

[colo92]

Hot4Latinos-- I'm just a skinny twink boy ...
i just meant i'm really skinny

Oh darn, the fantasy is gone. Sorry H4L, that's my shallow side's initial reaction to your revelations.
I fantasized you as a husky/burly man with an amazing dick.
The amazing dick is still true though, yay!


It is interesting how skinny or twinky tends to be a common feature of many bisexual males. Hmmm.

[colo92]

MissAnne-- Side Note: Your real friends will respect you no matter what.

This statement is highly insulting and sadly misinformed.

You come from a perspective of heterosexual privilege. Expressing your interests in same-sex sexuality here on JUB doesn't negate this reality. H4L himself made it clear that he has ingratiated himself deeply into gay community and/or politics (i.e. militantly gay). If gay men and lesbians shared equally in all of society's laws, legal incidents, and privileges this entire thread wouldn't ever have been necessary. There are so many complexities involved in gay male bonding, kinship, friendship, romance, etcetera and it's not always consistent or present. Nevertheless, even H4L's "real" friends may have trouble accepting something that they don't have access to (i.e. heterosexual privilege) and/or that they don't even relate to--I mean after all this is a man who has proudly identified himself as gay and now proclaims to want women too. And I can assure you, some of these "real" friends who may have shared some special or intimate moments with H4L over the years that bonded them together with H4L as gay men will only hear the word "women" and not the word "too". Their reactions will be imminently reasonable. It will be up to H4L to accommodate them and their reactions, not the other way around. Just as when a gay man comes out to his parents, he may have to give them time to come to terms with it, and he may have to accept that his parents may never do so. That doesn't mean they were never his parents. And it also doesn't mean that if H4L's "real" friends never come to terms with his fully realized bisexuality they were never his real friends. It means both their realities have changed. And one can only hope that one day, when we no longer have discriminatory barriers, that we will no longer need to coexist in different realities.

[Hot4Latinos]

yep and its always the skinny who have the big dicks

[colo92]

gaydude65-- I find it interesting that even in just the short time since you started this thread, your sexual attraction to women has significantly grown. You've gone from just being interested in pussy to now wanting ass and tits, and you're emphasizing your desire for females and female body parts by using ALL CAPS, but you aren't doing the same whenever you talk about guys. It's pretty clear to me that you get WAY hotter over females now than males.

I think deep down you probably really want to be exclusively with a woman right now to see where it will go. And I have a feeling you're gonna be way more comfortable with it than you realize.

I can't help but wonder how your friends who know you as this "militant gay guy" will react when the inevitable comes to light one day.

These are very astute points. We're witness to a coming out by H4L as being from a self-identified gay male (albeit falsely) to a fully realized bisexual male. His doing this process here in JUB is perfect, and thankfully a place like this exists for it. It is an evolutionary process for him. Just as for many gay men, the realization of years of agonizing over whether to come out and how to do so is highly emotional, sometimes fraught with risk and self-inflicted wounds, and above all life-changing. The first time that a gay man has his first gay experience (alone with another man) it can be such a glorious release--like, now I know, now I understand, now I feel complete. H4L is now going through this process as a bisexual man and it's quite fascinating to witness his growth here on JUB. In essence he is experiencing many of the reactions here in JUB that he may actually encounter, if and when he comes out, to those in his "real" everyday life. And depending on the extent to which he has been "militantly gay" in his life will inform the kind of reaction he receives from his friends, family, etcetera.

H4L is no dummy. He's aware that there may be unfortunate repercussions to his new coming out, although it's also very possible that it won't end up mattering much at all--maybe he doesn't realize they already suspect this about him. I hope for the latter.

Not everyone who finds out about this kind of thing will be so blatant to express disdain up front.
It's sad and I wish it wasn't so, but individuals often simply drift away with no real explanations given--this to me is far more cruel than having to deal with expressions of anger or disdain.

[colo92]

Hot4Latinos-- yep and its always the skinny who have the big dicks

Stop it! You're making me horny. I'm trying to be serious right now. ;-)

[Hot4Latinos]

Chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwopUkf_h54ouple of interesting Youtube clips-- more the typical experience I think and the typical attitude

[colo92]

Kyanimal-- There is NOTHING set in stone!

Sorry Kyanimal. Kinsey 6s and 0s do exist. It's inconvenient I know and I respect that you can never know what that existence is like and are likely even glad that you don't. I have to say I am very glad and thankful I have known nothing else.

Although it can't be that problematic for you since I recall on another thread you lamenting that your partner has never had a sexual experience with a female. Yet I suspect you still love him very much.

Another wonderful benefit to being a Kinsey 6 or 0 is that we get to be a happy thorn in-the-side to many bisexual purists/supremacists.

[colo92]

Hot4Latinos-- couple of interesting Youtube clips-- more the typical experience I think and the typical attitude

See, I was right. You are no dummy. You better not be if you have a Masters for goodness sake.

I think "Davey Wavey's" video made some really good points. In your case though it sort of turns these ideas on their head--because the reverse is happening: gay to bisexual. Some really good research fodder too.

[MissAnne]

This statement is highly insulting and sadly misinformed.

You come from a perspective of heterosexual privilege. Expressing your interests in same-sex sexuality here on JUB doesn't negate this reality. H4L himself made it clear that he has ingratiated himself deeply into gay community and/or politics (i.e. militantly gay). If gay men and lesbians shared equally in all of society's laws, legal incidents, and privileges this entire thread wouldn't ever have been necessary. There are so many complexities involved in gay male bonding, kinship, friendship, romance, etcetera and it's not always consistent or present. Nevertheless, even H4L's "real" friends may have trouble accepting something that they don't have access to (i.e. heterosexual privilege) and/or that they don't even relate to--I mean after all this is a man who has proudly identified himself as gay and now proclaims to want women too. And I can assure you, some of these "real" friends who may have shared some special or intimate moments with H4L over the years that bonded them together with H4L as gay men will only hear the word "women" and not the word "too". Their reactions will be imminently reasonable. It will be up to H4L to accommodate them and their reactions, not the other way around. Just as when a gay man comes out to his parents, he may have to give them time to come to terms with it, and he may have to accept that his parents may never do so. That doesn't mean they were never his parents. And it also doesn't mean that if H4L's "real" friends never come to terms with his fully realized bisexuality they were never his real friends. It means both their realities have changed. And one can only hope that one day, when we no longer have discriminatory barriers, that we will no longer need to coexist in different realities.

Whatever man. I may not be a gay male but I can still understand that in this instance those angry friends are just like angry parents. All those hurt feelings are selfish feelings and they are going to have to deal with that themselves. Its not his problem. Ill say it again, his real friends will respect him. And perhaps I do speak from heterosexual privilege but I ALSO define myself as queer. I don't pretend to know what its like to be a gay man. I stated that. So dont pretend to know what its like to be me.

[colo92]

MissAnne-- Whatever man. I may not be a gay male but I can still understand that in this instance those angry friends are just like angry parents. All those hurt feelings are selfish feelings and they are going to have to deal with that themselves. Its not his problem. Ill say it again, his real friends will respect him. And perhaps I do speak from heterosexual privilege but I do define myself as queer. I don't pretend to know what its like to be a gay man. I stated that. So dont pretend to know what its like to be me.

Although you really don't know and cannot know of what you're speaking to, we can at least agree on one thing: you do speak from heterosexual privilege.

Don't worry I wouldn't want to know in a million years what it is like to be you, let alone to pretend so.

[MissAnne]

LOL. Buena Suerte H4L. Don't let this thread scare you away from being honest with the people that you care about.

[Hot4Latinos]

I'm not scared tho the thread has proven my point beyond the shadow of a doubt.

[colo92]

^^I guess I missed your point. What would that be exactly?

[Hot4Latinos]

^^Just that in this thread, in spite of the fact that I have lived and still live my life as a gay man there's the undertone of "You're not really one of us. You don't belong (see the Ani Difranco song). Get your own club."

[Hot4Latinos]

Tho' I have to say I find it irritating (to say the least) that no one on JUB has a problem with a str8 gay who wants to suck dick....in fact, for most of you sucking a str8 guy (oooh a "real man") is apparently your wet dream, but a gay guy curios about pussy and you all lose your damn minds and GO OFF

[colo92]

Hot4Latinos-- ^^Just that in this thread, in spite of the fact that I have lived and still live my life as a gay man there's the undertone of "You're not really one of us. You don't belong (see the Ani Difranco song). Get your own club."

H4L -- please accept my sincere apologies if I've given you that impression. It was never my intent. Odd to say, but just as you are going through this evolution to learn something very personal about yourself, I am also learning about myself and how I might react to someone if they we're going through this. Actually I did but not at all in the same way you are. I would never consider you not part of "us".

[colo92]

Hot4Latinos-- Tho' I have to say I find it irritating (to say the least) that no one on JUB has a problem with a str8 gay who wants to suck dick....in fact, for most of you sucking a str8 guy (oooh a "real man") is apparently your wet dream, but a gay guy curios about pussy and you all lose your damn minds and GO OFF

Actually let me add my voice to yours on the hypocrisy you're addressing and I have seen you write about this before.

What's odd to me is that somehow the act of oral sex on a str8 guy somehow means he's still str8. I'll be consistent on this one.
No, the guy is definitely not Str8. I would class him as bi with a 99.9% or very strong or primary interest in women (i.e. Kinsey 1).

It's one thing for a gay male to fantasize sucking or getting fucked by a straight guy, however those that actually make the fantasy a "reality" are, in my opinion, taking part in a predatory act of self-hatred. I guarantee I can find social science literature to back me up on this one. They're also fooling themselves if they think these guys are really straight--they're likely not gay, but they ain't straight either. So there's at least one voice here on JUB who fully agrees with you on this point.

Have a nice Memorial Day H4L!

[Hot4Latinos]

"But then again is this answer forever?
Or is it just
one simple question
in the quest from my youth?
Jesus died for somebody's sins
but not mine....
My sins belong to me."
-Patti Smith, "Gloria"

[Hot4Latinos]

Colo: It may have been unintentional and maybe I'm overracting because my allegiance has been and is so strong but many times reading this thread I have been made to feel like I am abandoning my brothers. The men who have kept me strong all these years and that was never my intention.

I stand beside you.
As one of you.
Always.

[Hot4Latinos]

But the reality is, H4L, that you actually aren't "one of us"

This breaks my heart. My years of teaching, my years of volunteer work, all the things I've written all these years, my novel, and not the leastr of which that I've loved and I've lost and survived, apparently mean NOTHING.

Thanx for enlightening me Gaydude65

[Hot4Latinos]

But the reality is, H4L, that you actually aren't "one of us"

So I'm excluded?

You are still part of the LGBT "us."

No, wait, now I'm included

And the moral is: I'M bisexual. YOU'RE confused.

[colo92]

Hi Hot4Latinos, I hope you had a nice holiday.

This post will be my last as well (I'm sure many will be thrilled).

I believe you've got a fairly good grasp of what you may or may not face when you finally begin to share the truth about your newly realized bisexuality with those in your real everyday life. In this thread you've encountered a variety of voices that I think are also fairly representative of the kinds of reactions you may or may not experience. Hopefully this will help you prepare to some extent for how to respond to these various reactions. Writing thoughts on a Web site is very different from actually talking to someone face to face as I'm sure you know.

You've stated that you're still living your life as a gay man. I don't know how you originally came out years ago but for most gay men the closet can be a lonely place and a painful one too. You're now hiding something significant about yourself which is in essence creating a closet for that part of you. Perhaps you'll not even have to address this head on because you'll assuage your fantasies, desires, and primal need for eating and/or fucking pussy (and please, I'm begging you--stop with the curiosity bit, you've moved well beyond curiosity, I mean you've stated that you have a Masters in English so you must know the difference, and it's not fooling anyone who is capable of understanding the difference).
Perhaps you'll meet a nice Latino power bottom whom diverts your attention to him, although you have also stated that you're not interested in a relationship. So it appears the odds are, you will at some point deal with the ever growing poundings of a "tell-tale heart", so to speak. As you become even more comfortable with having sex with women and you're absolute love for their vaginas, you may start finding it difficult to sit quietly and listen to gay men in your circles or just in your presence who will say derogatory things or joke about female genitalia or women in general--not out of misogyny but because they're blowing off steam (and for those who think only men do this kind of thing, think again--I've been around lesbians who say some pretty vulgar things about the male body; I even have an aunt, who in the presence of her husband, proceeded to expound on how disgusting she thinks the male penis is). Over time you may find yourself increasingly anxious because you may feel a need to censor yourself about your sexual desires for pussy, when you're out with a group of gay friends. And what about family? Perhaps your family is very modern and the whole issue will be hooey. Some men who have gone through what you are have found family to be terribly difficult because when they find out they sometimes come to the conclusion that "see, all you needed was to finally have sex with a woman." Male lovers become suspect and female ones become overly exaggerated. It can all get so messy.
On the other hand you alluded to a group of men who have kept you strong all these years. I can only assume that this means you have a group of men who are strongly connected with you. Perhaps these men will mollify any trepidation in you of sharing this aspect of who you really are. I hope so.

Now to appeal to your "militantly gay" side:

Finally, and I can only speak for myself, my interest in engaging you in this thread you created was not just to share my ideas, concerns, and/or thoughts but to learn about myself too. I'm not ashamed to say that it was a selfish act on my part to join in this conversation--I was being selfish for my fellow gay men and lesbians who are still fighting for their rightful "place at the table." My words were never meant as an attack on you--but instead as a defense of my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. We don't live in that perfect world that some myopic individuals have created for themselves in their own heads. You can be used by those who would like to see gays and lesbians marginalized once again. That's why I hope that as you do reveal your true desire and love for pussy, that you're careful to whom you share it with and how you do it.

I nor gaydude65 or anyone else has the power to exclude you from the gay community nor would we want to. You can only do that to yourself.

As you so succinctly stated, "I stand beside you. As one of you. Always." And this gay man feels the same towards you.

You never stated when you started this thread that all you wanted was affirmation--if you did, you should have made that very clear. After all this is a forum of threads, intended for dialogue, and hopefully to learn from and enjoy one another.

I wish you all the best H4L and I hope you become an out and proud bisexual man. We need more of them.

[Hot4Latinos]

Colo: I'm sad that yuo're leaving the thread but I thank you for your support