Reality Check: How are gasoline prices in your area?

[Kulindahr]

Fred Meyer this morning is at $3.99.

[MisterMajestic]

This week alone BP-Gas went from $3.06 back down to $3.01......I'm guessing Wal-Mart Gas gotta be @ $2.99 or lower...

[Kulindahr]

That's a bargain Here I am thinking $3.79 is cheap lol.

It's an incredible bargain. At that price, I wouldn't be so restricted in how much I can get done at my project -- paying over $4/gal keeps me sort of pinned down.

[unloadonme]

In Leeds today the cheapest is £1.28 per litre (which equates to US$1.99 per litre or US$9.05 per gallon), but about 2/3rds of that is tax. A complete rip off.

[White Eagle]

Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
I'm still seeing people saying to boycott Citgo or Valero because of Chavez. We have a pretty big Citgo refinery here and all the gas stations changed their name to Valero because of the boycott threats. Gas was 3.239 yesterday. Valero and Citgo do a lot of charity work here. For every 40 houses or so there is a whole block that is a park. Usually baseball or soccer fields. They keep up the premises. I saw also that they donated oil to the northeast for heating in the winters.
Even if it is Chavez' company I like it and will buy their gas.
For example even if it is from 2006:
Valero Gas Stations= CITGO = Venezuela = Chavez

Soooooo.... you're good with big oil if it's owned by a repressive, communist dictator.

That says it all.

I'm happy to report that Valero is charging 3.19 9. So how is that Arab oil compare with Chavez' oil?

[Centexfarmer]

WTF? You apparently didn't read my post. Chavez is not attacking our cities. If anything he is just hurting the people of Venezuela. What oil companies do you get your gas? Our Valero and Citgo do tremendous work for charities around here. Exxon doesn't. You could look at it that I get the cheapest and that what is Valero.

That link that you posted a few posts back by Debbie Schlussel, that she made back in 2006 just shows how ignert she is about how the Energy Industry actually works, and who's doing what to who's dog and for how much money.

White Eagle you should be proud to know that Valero Energy Corporation is Texas Based out of San Antonio, and it's THE LARGEST REFINER in North America, and a refinery in the U.K.

Meaning that most Brits buy Valero Gasoline even if they think that they're buying it from a local competitor.

In Addition:

Valero employees in 2011 devoted more than 143,000 volunteer hours to improving people's lives and giving back to the communities where they live and work. They are ambassadors of hope and service for organizations where Valero operates, from children's charities and senior services to grassroots civic events. Employees from every Valero location – from retail stores to refineries to corporate headquarters – are dedicated to making a difference.

Source: Community

How Many North American base employees of Valero would be doing all of that if Chavez anything to do with the company?

So be proud in knowing that Valero doesn't have anything to do with Chavez, or Venezalua.

In fact the name Valero comes from Mission San Antonio de Valero, aka The Alamo.

Valero Corner Store prices in far East Dallas as of today: 3.149 per gallon for Regular Unleaded.

Full disclosure, centexfarmer works in management for Valero's retail division.

[White Eagle]

Okaaaay! Leave it to you for some teachings. I didn't know that. I was only going with the local examples of what I knew.
I did see a story that they were in San Antonio but I couldn't imagine just where a refinery was. San Antonio is far from
the coast. 250 miles from us. And we have a large Citgo refinery here.
So, Springer has no right to accuse me of using gas from a dictatorship.

[Jack Springer]

^^^

Wasn't 41 connected to Valero?

[Kulindahr]

$3.87 today at Fred Meyer. Everyone else is a dime behind.

[CowboyBob]

$3.34 to $3.44 for a gallon of unleaded regular here.

It will be under $3 by September / October.

[Centexfarmer]

^^^

Wasn't 41 connected to Valero?

Post #41 of this thread by my fellow Texan TX-Beau?

Irving, Texas situated between Dallas and Fort Worth, and just North of the D/FW International Airport is the WORLD WIDE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS OF EXXON/MOBILE.

Funny, I didn't see Valero mentioned in that post.

But now that we're on the subject!

Leave it to you for some teachings. I didn't know that. I was only going with the local examples of what I knew.

Exxon/Mobile, to my knowledge own refineries or at least controlling interests in some, but their principle business isn't refining, but rather finding and extracting.

They also own a small retail market where they sale their gas and 44oz soft drinks.

Tiger Marts, I think they're called (google it).

Valero has the same operation, but the majority of their gas is sold by what the industry calls "jobbers."

For example, if you see a Valero Station with Valero Signage and Colors, and Valero Pumps outside, but the name of the building is something other than Corner Store, then that location is a "jobber" or a "wholesaler" of Valero Refined Gasoline and Diesel.

Point of fact, neither Exxon/Mobile, Shell, Conoco, Citgo, Racetrac, QT, Valero or any number of "gas stations" set the price at the pump.

Oil is a commodity, and it's bought and sold on "futures" or future value.

And it's sold at the pump as such too.

In fact it's factored into the daily margins of profits gained and lost at each location where you choose to purchase your "go juice."

Which is why you can see a few cents fluctuation between competitors at any given intersection in your area.

If anyone one of those given companies sales 18 billion gallons of gas in one year, do the math and figure out how much 1 cent on the dollar adds up to.

Americans pay far cheaper gas prices at the pump than other countries, primarily because the Federal Government subsidizes the oil and natural gas industry.

The Federal Government also taxes the sale of that oil and natural gas too.

So pick something to bitch about.

End the subsidies on "Big Oil" and pay for it at the pump.

Cut state and federal taxes on each gallon pumped, and pay somewhere else; street, bridges and highway funding for example.

The "jobbers" and the "corporate retailers" aren't stupid.

But they also have a very small margin that they can play with to draw you into their locations.

So they try to get you in (like local a local QT; .69 cents for a 32oz drink, you're choice).

Or fresh baked goods, or a garden salad.

I thought that the majority of customers just "paid at the pump" either "debit or credit" but I've seen the numbers it's just not so.

More than 30% of the business that most "convenience stores" bring in is now "retail."

Everything from Redbox, to fresh baked pastries, donuts, danish, to regional fare like Kolaches, and Gourmet Coffee/Espresso.

That's the draw now, not which of the "competitors" has the lowest or cheapest gas prices.

Those are mostly "market driven" meaning, whatever the market is willing to pay.

And not just in any given region, but also now within certain zip codes and demographics.

You wanna live in that area? You're going to pay for what that market can bear.

[White Eagle]

Well, fuck. I gotta go to bed and come up in the am to see what the fuck you just said.
It's true, I was afraid someone would explain what is going on. Now just fuck!

[Centexfarmer]

Well, fuck. I gotta go to bed and come up in the am to see what the fuck you just said.
It's true, I was afraid someone would explain what is going on. Now just fuck!

I understand what you're saying. I've got to get bed too.

[Jack Springer]

Gas has gone up here -- $3.27 now was $2.99 a week and a half ago.

[White Eagle]

I understand what you're saying. I've got to get bed too.

Wow! Quite the lesson. I need to print it out so I can refer to it, often. Thanks

[chrisrobin]

They suck. On June 4, I reported 3.899. Today, they're about the same. There's some existential reason why the prices have not dropped here, but I'm not interested. The multi-national oil corporations can go cram it.

[MisterMajestic]

BP is now down to $2.92...That's the lowest its been in years....

[maxpowr9]

Mobil was $3.299 today for regular. Special for some reason is still pretty high at $3.379

[White Eagle]

The last one I posted was 3.19 ^^^^
So it's gone up some.


AAA Texas: Retail gas prices down another nickel across state

Pump prices in Corpus Christi averaged about $3.25, nearly 30 cents less than a year ago and 35 cents less than a month ago.

Valero 1602 S Padre Island Dr
Corpus Christi, TX, 78416 $3.259

Unbranded 2222 Airline Rd
Corpus Christi, TX, 78414 $3.299

Stripes 9602 S Padre Island Dr
Corpus Christi, TX, 78418 $3.259

Stripes 601 S Port Ave $3.159
Corpus Christi, TX, 78405

I just saw thaat Stripes was #3.159. I think that is Citgo's stores.

[chrisrobin]

They still suck. Paid 3.75.99 Saturday. Way above the national average.

[JayHawk]

That does suck CR.... I just paid 3.43 for my "Go Juice" However the average price at all location in MO and KS has been around 3.59 for the last week of so driving around both states....

[cityboy-stl]

^ Gas was $3.09 in Saint Louis over the weekend.

[Kulindahr]

^ Gas was $3.09 in Saint Louis over the weekend.

That's eighty cents a gallon less than here.

[chance1]

I hate all of you

I paid $3.91 on Sunday on Long Island

[Kulindahr]

I hate all of you

I paid $3.91 on Sunday on Long Island

The difference between that and what I paid yesterday isn't even enough to buy an order of small fries at McD's, on a fill-up.

[chance1]

^ get a banana instead

[Centexfarmer]

$3.089, Rockwall, Texas this afternoon.

[justdra]

I paid 3.02 today in south ga.

[JayHawk]

^ Gas was $3.09 in Saint Louis over the weekend.

I dont buy too much weekend gas these days... for whatever reason i try to be home or where I will be before the weekend... the funny thing is I add a dollar mentally to the cost of gas around STL mostly because I buy around Ofallon IL and I usually know the price will be substantially higher....

[MystikWizard]

Maryland is about averaging about $3.23 for Regular.

[Jack Springer]

Gas prices continue to rise here -- $3.32/gal regular

[Kulindahr]

No change recently. It's nice being thirty cents lower than early last month, but we're still sixty cents higher than most of the country.

[chrisrobin]

Went down a "smidge" around "Emmanuelville" this week. - $3.66.9
Should I send Exxon a "thank you" note?"

[Kulindahr]

Petroleum distillates are sensitive demand driven products.

$2.xx will be a bad sign so long as the U.S. isn't planning on replacing its interstate highway system.

Why do we need an interstate highway system? The states are all sovereign.....

[JayHawk]

Luckily for me ..recently I haven't bothered to check the price as I am filling up...

[MisterMajestic]

We're down to $2.89...A couple of the Mom & Pop stations are down to $2.86...I don't substitute Water for Gasoline so I steer clear of those stations...

[Kulindahr]

We're down to $2.89...A couple of the Mom & Pop stations are down to $2.86...I don't substitute Water for Gasoline so I steer clear of those stations...

Most of those stations just get the leftovers from the regular stations. It's the same gas, just mixed.

[MisterMajestic]

Most of those stations just get the leftovers from the regular stations. It's the same gas, just mixed.

Like always you got the answer for EVERYTHING....Are you ALWAYS stuck-on-Serious? Do you deal with people in real-life the same way you deal with people online? You always think its your job to inform Jubers on stuff that we already know...Being the resident know-it-all does not make you attractive online and it will keep you Single offline...

And I'm not saying ANYTHING that you havent heard from people that know you offline...I'm giving you confirmation...

[Kulindahr]

Like always you got the answer for EVERYTHING....Are you ALWAYS stuck-on-Serious? Do you deal with people in real-life the same way you deal with people online? You always think its your job to inform Jubers on stuff that we already know...Being the resident know-it-all does not make you attractive online and it will keep you Single offline...

And I'm not saying ANYTHING that you havent heard from people that know you offline...I'm giving you confirmation...

I know people with mom-and-pop stations. People say that seriously about their gas all the time. When someone mouths (types) the same stupidity, am I supposed to let it pass? I see ignorance, I correct it. You don't want to get corrected, either ditch the ignorance or employ humor instead of making stupid assertions.

[JayHawk]

Mrrrooowwwww!!

I wish i could find me some 2.89...

[MisterMajestic]

I wish i could find me some 2.89...

If Overland Park is not too far away I could bring'ya some...LOL...How far is that from South Carolina?

[JayHawk]

Well I think that would be right around 1200 miles... I know Cincinnati is 10 hours so if you punched up through Louisville Kentucky and on west you could maybe make it in a 16 to 18 hour trip...

Will you bring a whole tanker and come fill me up? **cough**

[MisterMajestic]

Well I think that would be right around 1200 miles... I know Cincinnati is 10 hours so if you punched up through Louisville Kentucky and on west you could maybe make it in a 16 to 18 hour trip...

Will you bring a whole tanker and come fill me up? **cough**

Hmmmm..We have a TD Bank in Cincinnati. If the Powers-that-be ever send me there or nearby to work/train I will make it a point to Fill you up at least One good-time before I head back to the Southeast...

[JayHawk]

Hmmmm..We have a TD Bank in Cincinnati. If the Powers-that-be ever send me there or nearby to work/train I will make it a point to Fill you up at least One good-time before I head back to the Southeast...

Well you will have to work with me but I go visit my Mother and take care of my house every four to six weeks there in Cincy

[chrisrobin]

I rest my case.

[vulgar_newcomer]

Most of those stations just get the leftovers from the regular stations. It's the same gas, just mixed.

.......... This is not how it goes. Trust me I do this for a living,

[vulgar_newcomer]

I know people with mom-and-pop stations. People say that seriously about their gas all the time. When someone mouths (types) the same stupidity, am I supposed to let it pass? I see ignorance, I correct it. You don't want to get corrected, either ditch the ignorance or employ humor instead of making stupid assertions.

They can say whatever they want. The reality is they sign the bill of lading when they get a load of gasoline and they are very much removed and non-educated how or where there gasoline came from. I don't care what they tell you.
A small retail owner hasn't a clue to how or what they got ,.......... you know what they know is the price they pay and thats all.

Commonly the small station owner will order more 87 octane then they can hold. Many small stations have 4,000 tanks. They will order 3,800 gallons of 87 but the tank will only hold 1,750 because they didn't sell enough. They order the lower grade gas on purpose.
Then they want the transport driver to dump the excess into the 89.92, 93+ tank because 87 grade is cheaper. They know most truck drivers are not paid by the hour and by the load if the driver is stuck with 2,000 gallons of 87 that won't fit in ma & pas tank because on purpose they order to much , well shit the driver must peddle that 87 to other stations before he gets his next paying load meaning he isn't making money.
...of course ma & pa make money because they got 87 octane dumped into the hi-test tank for a much higher retail price. All illegal and the driver would be fired, but all very common. Few states test the octane in gasoline.

[Jack Springer]

Price is back down to $3.08 -- crazy.

ChrisRobin -- I believe the price of gas was around $1,87 at the end of the Bush administration. The high spike of gas during the Bush Administration did not last long -- as opposed to the continual high price of fuel during the Obama administration.

... just saying.

[maxpowr9]

I had the hilarious incident today of pulling up to Mobil and them being completely out of gasoline.

[JayHawk]

Price is back down to $3.08 -- crazy.

ChrisRobin -- I believe the price of gas was around $1,87 at the end of the Bush administration. The high spike of gas during the Bush Administration did not last long -- as opposed to the continual high price of fuel during the Obama administration.

... just saying.

Um cites? Cuz I sure as hell do not remember that but perhaps I was only in the US during the spikes.