Faking 1010 |OT| Fakes help thread? Fakes help thread.

[Wafflecakes]

Hey all! I recently pitched to Quasar the idea of making a thread dedicated to faking and helping each other achieve a high standard when making them. Sometimes when you are faking you get to the point where you can not improve further without help. I know I eventually hit a wall where I would have stayed without input from others.

What This thread is for
Posting questions about faking, photoshop, etc. You post an image and get an honest critique and some specific examples of how it could be improved. You come to use with a specific image where there is something you just can't quite get right. If you a pic in this thread you are requesting help and advice.

What this thread is NOT for
Telling people how amazing their fakes are (we have a thread for that already). Posting new finished fakes you don't intend to work on or get advice about. Telling people their fakes are terrible. Negativity. Spamming. Posting if you cannot handle criticism. Making fakes for you.

All rules that apply in the main faking thread also apply here. Ye be warned!

So here is the preferred format of this thread (I understand sometimes you may need to mix it up).

You Post:

1. Your question/concern/plea for help
2. The pics. You can post just the fake itself if you would like. If its an especially tough problem it is always helpful to post the fake + ALL source pics either through links or uploads (Uploading to JUB is not preferred because it downsizes images)
3. What you have tried/how you think it should be done?
4. What program are you using? Photoshop? Gimp? What version (most are on PS 5.1 or 5.5)

What others post in response:

However they see fit really. Whether it be explaining their opinion on it is. Telling you their technique. Etc. Or they they can take your pic itself and show you what it looks like them. Essentially please try to answer the questions presented. If you want to post a couple pics occasionally just to show your own style and abilities that is fine.....do not go overboard though. They are just for reference.

I plan on answering as many questions as time permits but others should feel free to answer questions as well. Everyone can (and must) contribute if this thread is to be a success.

[Wafflecakes]

About me: I started faking about 4 months ago and I would like to think I have improved dramatically from my first fakes to my fakes I make now though there is always room for improvement. I used photoshop quite a bit in highschool so I do have some background in it beyond just faking. I am by no means an expert and I am learning new things about photoshop everyday.

If you want to see my work you can go to Wafflefakes and check it out or my Tumblr account.

Always happy to help and answer questions

[Wafflecakes]

Going to try to make some video guides where I walk through making various fakes. Hopefully I can get my vid capture program working this afternoon to get it going.

[tw31988]

i love this, such a great initiative!!!

i've also been photoshopping for a few years now (You can find my stuff here: http://tw-31988.livejournal.com ) and you're right, there are no places to look for nice feedback and help.

i'll gladly help too.

In fact, i made a tutorial not so long ago that might help some beginners...

http://tw-31988.livejournal.com/48219.html

[Wafflecakes]

VIDEO GUIDE UP!

First half of the first video guide up. Its about 36 minutes long and is mostly the basic and general chat about my philosophy on faking. Any comments on how itc an be improved would be much appreciated. Around 35 minutes long.

Download Here

[mixman]

Thanks a lot, Wafflefakes!
Just watched your tutorial and enjoyed it a lot. I'd love to see a second part, also if you'd like to elaborate on the way you select the pictures (the 90%) would be helpful.
By the way, I don't know if that'll help you, but there is actually a way you can modify a layer so that it isn't permanent. (So you don't need to duplicate the layer.) After you select a face and copy it into the porn picture you can make that layer into a mask (vectorial mask) and then remove some of the picture by painting black or adding by painting white. But you probably knew that.
Another thing because you mentioned not being able to go back indefinitely: There is an option to see the whole history and to select how much you want to go back. It's in the windows menu under "history".
Thanks again for the tutorial and looking forward to more!

[Wafflecakes]

Thanks a lot, Wafflefakes!
Just watched your tutorial and enjoyed it a lot. I'd love to see a second part, also if you'd like to elaborate on the way you select the pictures (the 90%) would be helpful.
By the way, I don't know if that'll help you, but there is actually a way you can modify a layer so that it isn't permanent. (So you don't need to duplicate the layer.) After you select a face and copy it into the porn picture you can make that layer into a mask (vectorial mask) and then remove some of the picture by painting black or adding by painting white. But you probably knew that.
Another thing because you mentioned not being able to go back indefinitely: There is an option to see the whole history and to select how much you want to go back. It's in the windows menu under "history".
Thanks again for the tutorial and looking forward to more!

Thanks. Yeah....I kinda taught myself photoshop so didn't know about history which is nice to know. As to the masks....I prefer layers personally. It essentially does the same thing over and its just what I prefer. Thanks for the feedback.

[mixman]

So maybe you'd like to help me out a bit, this is a fake I just did, I believe it's not too bad, but I had a hard time figuring out the right skin tone. Any suggestions?

[Wafflecakes]

So maybe you'd like to help me out a bit, this is a fake I just did, I believe it's not too bad, but I had a hard time figuring out the right skin tone. Any suggestions?

[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m27pefihUI1rtwuvho1_500.jpgG]

The color looks about right. What is off is the contrast/brightness imo. This image is hard to match because in the body pic the light is coming from the back while the face's light is coming from the front. I like the way the face looks so I would make most of the changes to the body. Not sure you are ever going to get a 100% match simply because of the lighting differences and the differences in picture quality between the two.

Decided to fiddle with it myself. Hope you don't mind. I assume you are using photoshop.

What I tried was to increase the brightness of the body a bit (make sure not to go overboard....do not compare to the neck....sit back and look at the whole body). Then I looked at the face and saw that it has a red tinge that the body lacks. Using the color balance tool I tried increasing the red of the highlights somewhat (+12).

Another difference I noticed was that the face has some nice deep blacks while the body does not. So using the selective color tool I increased the blacks (make sure to change it to blacks from the default reds in the drop down menu then use the bottom slider) 100% for a subtle improvement.

I went back to the face and decreased its contrast a little bit to help hide the difference in shadows. To correct the color distortion I then increased it vibrancy a little. I also increased its brightness slightly.

At this point I liked the way they matched but had some problems with the end result.

I then decided that the whole image was a bit dull overall so I went and increased the contrast of the body AND the face. I decided it was far too yellow so using the Color Balance tool I used the yellow/blue slider to change the highlights on the face and body and I really liked the results.


(this got a bit convoluted as I went. I can make a video of the changes if you would like)

Here was the final pic I ended up with after the above changes. Because of the lighting its not perfect but I like it. hope that helps There are rarely simple answers to questions when it comes to color matching.

[mixman]

Thanks a lot, Waffle. I do think the most valuable piece of advice in all of this is, that the selection of pictures (and their light direction) has to match better from the start. I have to admit that it doesn't always seem obvious to me (besides outright shadows) until I am in an advanced stage of the fake - and that's a little bit too late. Anyway, thanks again. I'll try harder and will follow the steps closely for the next fake. I don't know yet if I'll have the courage to continue working on this one, though.

[abruma]

Thank you Waffles. I'm an occasional faker and know almost nothing about photoshop, so I'm really glad this thread is here. I'm watching your tutorial video now.

[Wafflecakes]

Cool tell me what you think. Still debating on whether I am going to continue making them simply because the time it requires. If you have any questions at all.....even if unrelated to video. please let me know.

[8arry0]

can anyone tell me how to make it look like someone has comed? i've seen this on a few fakes but i have no idea how to do it myself.

[Wafflecakes]

can anyone tell me how to make it look like someone has comed? i've seen this on a few fakes but i have no idea how to do it myself.

Comed? I assume you mean cummed. Are you talking about the more realistic kind or the over the top cum all over type?

[tw31988]

can anyone tell me how to make it look like someone has comed? i've seen this on a few fakes but i have no idea how to do it myself.

i usually pick a brush that ressembles a liquid and paint using white, then apply a layer style which has bevel and emboss, play around with the settings, mainly the shadows until it looks sort of 3D and finally lower the opacity down to about 50% and it will look like like a white thick see-through liquid.

you can also use a pic with cum already on the face and blend the new face with the base pic leaving the cumming part intact.

[-damon-]

The color looks about right. What is off is the contrast/brightness imo. This image is hard to match because in the body pic the light is coming from the back while the face's light is coming from the front. I like the way the face looks so I would make most of the changes to the body. Not sure you are ever going to get a 100% match simply because of the lighting differences and the differences in picture quality between the two.

Decided to fiddle with it myself. Hope you don't mind. I assume you are using photoshop.

What I tried was to increase the brightness of the body a bit (make sure not to go overboard....do not compare to the neck....sit back and look at the whole body). Then I looked at the face and saw that it has a red tinge that the body lacks. Using the color balance tool I tried increasing the red of the highlights somewhat (+12).

Another difference I noticed was that the face has some nice deep blacks while the body does not. So using the selective color tool I increased the blacks (make sure to change it to blacks from the default reds in the drop down menu then use the bottom slider) 100% for a subtle improvement.

I went back to the face and decreased its contrast a little bit to help hide the difference in shadows. To correct the color distortion I then increased it vibrancy a little. I also increased its brightness slightly.

At this point I liked the way they matched but had some problems with the end result.

I then decided that the whole image was a bit dull overall so I went and increased the contrast of the body AND the face. I decided it was far too yellow so using the Color Balance tool I used the yellow/blue slider to change the highlights on the face and body and I really liked the results.


(this got a bit convoluted as I went. I can make a video of the changes if you would like)

Here was the final pic I ended up with after the above changes. Because of the lighting its not perfect but I like it. hope that helps There are rarely simple answers to questions when it comes to color matching.

Other then the "BRIGHTNESS" and "CONTRAST" you must also match the "LIGHTNESS" of the photos.

[Wafflecakes]

Glad to know you found it useful. I really do intend to make more videos. Just been busy. Hopefully I can get one or two out this week.

[foodandart]

Here's my short list of picture tutorials.

Paint/Smudge Tutorial: Image Upper.com - View Gallery Photos
1-shot Sizing Tutorial: Image Upper.com - View Gallery Photos
General Tutorial: Image Upper.com - View Gallery Photos

Deb.

[8arry0]

Comed? I assume you mean cummed. Are you talking about the more realistic kind or the over the top cum all over type?

the realistic kind. i still can't work it out.

[foodandart]

*saved*

thanks, Deb!

taking in everything I learn from you and wafflecakes...I should master the faking business eventually. lol I just need to practice more often.

Keep at it the world needs more fakers!

Deb.

[abruma]

Other then the "BRIGHTNESS" and "CONTRAST" you must also match the "LIGHTNESS" of the photos.

What does "lightness" mean? How do you match lightness? Thanks.

[abruma]

Hi, I'm trying to do a fake of Glenn McCuen (Marmaduke). I've got the headshot aligned ok with the body, but the face of the model is showing through. I don't know what to do next.

Here are the images..Glenn, the body model, and the composite so far. Any help would be great. Haven't started doing any color matching.

[Wafflecakes]

Hi, I'm trying to do a fake of Glenn McCuen (Marmaduke). I've got the headshot aligned ok with the body, but the face of the model is showing through. I don't know what to do next.

Here are the images..Glenn, the body model, and the composite so far. Any help would be great. Haven't started doing any color matching.

Stamp tool. I am fairly sure I used it in my video tutorial if you want to check it out. What it does is copy from one area over another. You can use this to extend the dark area of the neck up over the chin of the original model.

(you will need to play around with the size and type of the stamp tool to make it work. You hold down alt to select where you want to copy from)

On a side note it seems like part of the celebs chin is see through. What technique did you use to cut out the face? A key to good fakes is to have very solid and well defined body lines (such as the jawline)

[abruma]

I used the pen tool and then the select > refine edge. I may have had the opacity turned down when I saved that out to a jpg. The face in the middle is the one I cut out.

I may try and fix it later, but I found a picture that his face works much better with so I'm working on that one instead.

[abruma]

Here's the one I'm working on now. I think I've got it aligned and sized pretty well. But the colors are completely off. Any ideas how to get the color right?

[NickCarterFan]

Can anyone recommend any good apps for use with iPod/iPhone or (what I plan to buy soon) the iPad?

[Wafflecakes]

Here's the one I'm working on now. I think I've got it aligned and sized pretty well. But the colors are completely off. Any ideas how to get the color right?

On that one its mostly the nose and mouth that are off which makes it difficult because you can't change the whole face. You will want to select just the areas you want to change using magic wand or lasso tool. Then copy/paste them into a new layer. Then decrease the contrast a bit on that layer. If you selected too much you can always use the eraser tool to erase areas that you didn't want to decrease the contrast of. Should get it much closer.

(I also think the whole image could use more contrast if you wanna dial that up. Just imo)

[Wafflecakes]

I used the pen tool and then the select > refine edge. I may have had the opacity turned down when I saved that out to a jpg. The face in the middle is the one I cut out.

I may try and fix it later, but I found a picture that his face works much better with so I'm working on that one instead.

If possible I would avoid that method of cutting out faces. Thats what leads to the blurry edges. I recommend Lasso/Magnetic lasso (usually I start with magnetic and then refine with regular). Magic wand tool is also pretty great. I believe I go over those tool in my video if you wanna check em out for more details.

[Wafflecakes]

Can anyone recommend any good apps for use with iPod/iPhone or (what I plan to buy soon) the iPad?

Don't know of any right now but i will keep an eye out. Not sure that they would be ideal platforms for faking.

[Mozzy88]

Hey guys, don't know if any of you have photoshop cs6 yet. But I'm having a problem. So I downloaded Waffles video and I was following it, but I can't find the magic wand tool at all. Any help on finding it would be great. This new layout in the program is killing me lol. I mostly use GIMP to make fakes, but I thought I'd photoshop a go and now I can't find the tools.

Thanks guys.

[tw31988]

Hey guys, don't know if any of you have photoshop cs6 yet. But I'm having a problem. So I downloaded Waffles video and I was following it, but I can't find the magic wand tool at all. Any help on finding it would be great. This new layout in the program is killing me lol. I mostly use GIMP to make fakes, but I thought I'd photoshop a go and now I can't find the tools.

Thanks guys.

It's where it's always been, maybe you have the 'Quick Selection Tool' By defult,both are in the same place. Click it, without releasing to display both options.

http://i.imgur.com/3bE3K.png

[foodandart]

What does "lightness" mean? How do you match lightness? Thanks.

Lightness is the overall amount of white in an image - as opposed to brightness, which is the strength of the white in relation to the grays and blacks.

The easiest tool in any of the image manipulation programs to measure this with is the Histogram. This shows itself in a couple of different places - the Levels and Curves off the top of my head..

There are two parts to the histogram - the input levels up top, which shows what the picture range is, and the outputs (but this is more for the printing-process end of image manipulation so for faking it doesn't really get used - I rarely, if ever, fiddle with the output levels)

In the box at the left is 0. This is the color black. The center box is the midpoint of the scale, 1.00 and at the far end to the right, is white at 255.

If you tweak the lightness with the hue tool, and you open up the Levels afterwards, you will see that on the histogram the blacks have basically been pushed towards the mid-point grays.

Do the same thing with the Brightness and what you get is bits of the darker colors have been compressed (hence the white lines running through) but the *range* of darkness still goes all the way to black, and on the white end of the histogram, value has been added to spike up the whites (and there are the little spikes where the whites were added)

The thing with matching headshots to bodyshots is that photographers don't just play with lightness and dark, but also contrast - and the levels of gray in an image - so matching the elements can get tricky if you're stuck with two vastly different image qualities.

Some headshots will not get to where the bodyshot is no matter what you try. Or vice-versa.

This is where knowing how to push the contrast, lightness and brightness up or down on each element to meet in the middle, is how you can maximize your options. I've been faking/manipping for 12 years now and I still get run into corners by the colors. that. just. will. not. work.. GAH!!

It just takes time and the patience to learn is all.

Deb.

[Deadalivedoa]

Thank you for all the tutorial guys, these are amazing!

I'm having a little trouble, and I'm not sure where the problem lies. I was hoping someone could help... Here's my 'pratice':



I'd be grateful for any advice.

[Deadalivedoa]

Sorry to double post, but I cannot edit while a moderator checks my post... Anyway, I forgot to mention... would the problem lie in the shadows on Jensen's face? I was playing with the opacity of the head, and I noticed a slight improvement in the blend when the shadows were not so harsh:

[Wafflecakes]

Would love to help (sorry I am late) but looks like your images have been removed If you repost I will make sure to check back here in the next couple of days.

[abruma]

Deb--I've been admiring your fakes for years, literally! Thanks for the explanation about lightness, darks, matching stuff! That was really, really great. I didn't understand it all but I'll give it a go!

[abruma]

I finally finished my Glenn McCuen fake. Got the color a little better, but still not quite right. Is there a masterclass in faking the goes from beginner to advanced?

Here's the post:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/male...ml#post8223072

[keks03]

the klas fake, is hot.

[jjr12th]

not sure if this has been answered but how can i make fakes with out downloading something or buying something

[iheartzac]

not sure if this has been answered but how can i make fakes with out downloading something or buying something

not sure you can't. unless there's some website i've never heard of, you'll need to download or buy something to make the fakes. you can download the 30 day trial of photoshop or buy it. or you can download gimp. which is a free alternative to photoshop, but it doesn't have all the things photoshop has.

[Wafflecakes]

not sure if this has been answered but how can i make fakes with out downloading something or buying something

Without downloading anything? Very unlikely. Some PC's do come with photoshop lite type software. My old HP laptop did and it would have been workable for fakes though not ideal. Can't remember what it was called.

If you CAN find a way to download something GIMP is freeware that can do pretty much everything photoshop can.

[8arry0]

i still can't work out how to make it look like someone has cummed. help anyone?

[KarshnerShagger]

I, personally, have been trying to do the same thing. I fiddled with styles on Photoshop and managed to make it look somewhat realistic. Just for a fast example of what I did, I've attached a picture.



If you are interested, I could tell you the settings that I have for the styles if you use Photoshop and if you like it. You can increase or decrease and liquify and whatever to make it a little more realistic, but i don't think it's that bad.

[8arry0]

I, personally, have been trying to do the same thing. I fiddled with styles on Photoshop and managed to make it look somewhat realistic. Just for a fast example of what I did, I've attached a picture.



If you are interested, I could tell you the settings that I have for the styles if you use Photoshop and if you like it. You can increase or decrease and liquify and whatever to make it a little more realistic, but i don't think it's that bad.

that look very good! would you be able to tell me how you did it?

[KarshnerShagger]

In Photoshop, you would create a new layer above the picture that you want to add the cum onto. You right click on that particular layer and choose Blending Options (should be at the top of the menu). I've included pictures of the settings that I used to make the cum above. The color #s that I used I added in red.

This is the first four settings that I used. They are for the Blending Option, Bevel & Emboss, Contour and Inner Shadow


The remaining four will be in the next post

[KarshnerShagger]

Here are the settings that I used for Inner Glow, Satin, Color Overlay and Drop Shadows.


My other suggestion is that before you hit OK after entering the last change is to save it as a NEW STYLE. This can be found under the OK & CANCEL on the right side of the Layer Style panel that you have been changing the information in. By saving it, you can just create a new layer and then hit the style button and go to town

[8arry0]

thanks a lot (:
i shall have a go the next time i create a fake and let you know the outcome (:

[KarshnerShagger]

I'm glad that I could assist you in any way.

[Wafflecakes]

Assuming photoshop.

What I would do is first (all under image -> adjustments) is Increase contrast in "Brightness/con on the body significantly about 70 or so. In same open options window increase brightness by 10. Then on the face it has some very white areas so go into "selective color", click the drop down box (default should be red) and select "white" and in the bottom slider bar that is labeled blacks change it to +40% (make sure the relative option is selected at the bottom. Using the same tool on the BODY now select reds from the drop down box and using the blacks slider go -10%.

Thats what I got from fiddling around.

This is what I ended up with.

[KarshnerShagger]

I decided to do sort of a slightly different thing, Huntneo(PT), with the see-thru clothes. I decided to make a Zac Efron that was sort of get hand x-rayed. I think the concept of how I did it close to the same. Using Photoshop, I first made a copy of the celebrity that I was using (keeping the original intact). I then dragged and dropped the underwear picture on top of the Zac Efron picture. I scaled, rotated, whatever I needed to do to the underwear picture to line it up with the Zac Efron picture. I clicked the mask button in the layers panel and making sure I was on the mask layer, I brushed away the excess that I didn't want. I suggest a soft-tipped brush with a lower opacity so you can like work out from the most "see-thru" to the untouched clothes. It makes it more realistic in my opinion. You can then also reduce the opacity of the layer as well to make it a little more realistic as well. I hope this makes sense.

Here is the Zac Efron one that I created....