Corbin-Fisher Update - 2012

[quasar]

Here's the new thread for 2012!

The first few posts are duplicates from the old thread to help this new one 'flow'.

Last year's thread is still available to view at the links below:

Corbib Fisher Update - 2011
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330621[/B]

[Singularity]

I watched Scott & Campbell and was a bit disappointed. The build up with Ben & TJ was much better. Each were initiated separately and then it took about three videos to go all the way for them. Scott & Campbell also seemed too comfortable with each other, maybe because they tag teamed girls before, I just didn't get that never-done-this-before vibe with them two. They went right into making out, exploring each other's bodies and all that jazz.

There has been a lot of controversy over the “condomless” scenes from Corbin Fisher. Talk about the testing process and why you feel comfortable performing without the use of condoms.
Our testing process is second to none. I can say for myself, since I’ve been a consistently active performer for over four years now, that I have been tested every 30 days of my life for the last four years. We are tested for basically everything, and the company also regularly has us visit and consult with a doctor prior to shoots. We also always get tested a few days before each shoot to rule out any possibilities. I’d imagine the most sterile, controlled environment anyone my age could have sex in would be our sets because of the strict testing.

So is it fair to say that you prefer going bareback?
Put it this way…personally, I don’t like watching any porn with condoms. It just doesn’t do it for me, and I watch a lot of porn! The way I see it, porn is here for fantasy, and to let your hair down and see exactly what you want to see. So, if the danger of contracting a disease has been ruled out to the greatest possible extent, why are we worrying about it? I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say, if I could choose it all the time, porn would be sans condoms.

You heard it from the man himself.

He's down for whatever and anything, I just wish CF would push its own boundaries next years and give us a bit more "scripted" scenes. I'm tired of the same-old, same-old.

[michaelscarn]

It says a lot about CF that as viewers we feel we know the models well enough to know which ones are being coerced into barebacking.

[OwenMeany]

I watched Scott & Campbell and was a bit disappointed. The build up with Ben & TJ was much better. Each were initiated separately and then it took about three videos to go all the way for them. Scott & Campbell also seemed too comfortable with each other, maybe because they tag teamed girls before, I just didn't get that never-done-this-before vibe with them two. They went right into making out, exploring each other's bodies and all that jazz.


You heard it from the man himself.

He's down for whatever and anything, I just wish CF would push its own boundaries next years and give us a bit more "scripted" scenes. I'm tired of the same-old, same-old.

The last thing I want to see are scenes that are more scripted. I kind of long for the early days where it seemed guys were REALLY doing it for the first time.

I think the Scott/Campbell thing was all contrived, but I still think they pulled it off. We're just not quite as naive as we were in the TJ / Ben era.

And for me, condomless isn't any hotter than with condom. It all depends on the guys and how much they are into each other. Chemistry, real or portrayed, is everything.

[Singularity]

The last thing I want to see are scenes that are more scripted. I kind of long for the early days where it seemed guys were REALLY doing it for the first time.

You can only do that once with each model and since quite a few of them have done a few dozen videos since they first appeared, I long for something different among them.

For example, they could move all their regular models to CF Select and keep the first-timers on CF, and for the love of Tootsie, they should really work on the spontaneity of some of their scenes. At this point, they're all the same but with different boys.

I think the Scott/Campbell thing was all contrived, but I still think they pulled it off. We're just not quite as naive as we were in the TJ / Ben era.

It was the build-up that did it for me. Throwing them into a full-on scene like that takes away the whole mystery of them doing it with each other the first time.

[LumiereNocturne]

The last thing I want to see are scenes that are more scripted. I kind of long for the early days where it seemed guys were REALLY doing it for the first time.

Yes, based on what we've seen already, perhaps it's best if they stick to non-scripted scenes. To be painfully honest, most of the guys aren't terribly gifted at acting and it just ends up being awkward...

And for me, condomless isn't any hotter than with condom. It all depends on the guys and how much they are into each other. Chemistry, real or portrayed, is everything.

Same here. It doesn't really make that much of a difference to me either way, as long as I'm into both of the guys and they're both into each other [or look like they are, at least].

[Singularity]

Yes, based on what we've seen already, perhaps it's best if they stick to non-scripted scenes. To be painfully honest, most of the guys aren't terribly gifted at acting and it just ends up being awkward...

Well maybe not scripted with a lot of dialog but I'd like to see something more than "Ok, guys, now go..." I remember a scene between Travis and Sean where Travis showed how he can deep throat with a banana. Then they cut to both of them sitting awkwardly next to each other; the scene that followed wasn't half as interesting than the intro we got.

Porn is supposed to be a fantasy, don't film it like a documentary.

[LumiereNocturne]

Well maybe not scripted with a lot of dialog but I'd like to see something more than "Ok, guys, now go..." I remember a scene between Travis and Sean where Travis showed how he can deep throat with a banana. Then they cut to both of them sitting awkwardly next to each other; the scene that followed wasn't half as interesting than the intro we got.

Porn is supposed to be a fantasy, don't film it like a documentary.

Well, I do agree that they should do away with the "Ok guys, go" intro altogether. How about just starting with the kissing and foreplay, like how it is already in many of their videos?

[Singularity]

That'd be just the same but without the "Ok, go..." Maybe if they had one guy looking at a porn mag, then another one comes in and tells him he can do better than that... Or they just came back in from training, take a shower and go from there... there are so many ways to start a scene without it looking like a how-to video.

It's the build up that makes the porn good.

[marcus13]

I want to see Ripley again, please bring him back. Thanks.

[CurveballNYC]

Singularity: some of the most authentic group scenes I've ever seen are those early SC sixsomes with big Zack and Trevor. The guys were all over each other. The only thing missing was the poppers! CF's "Anything Goes" sorta gets it, but not quite.

Funny you should mention that.

I was watching a bunch of old SeanCody videos yesterday and thinking the same thing.
You know what was wild Phunk, the ones where Sean was still in the videos himself and would blow the guys. Watching them now (they were made back in '03 or so) - the camera work is so amateur compared to now - the 2nd cameraman would often walk into scene or block the first cameraman's shot.

But Sean, totally clothed, just chowing down on these guy's body's - I mean he spent a good 15 minutes on camera just devouring Adam's ass. And it was all so un-mutual. Think about how weird it must have been for the models. You're the only one naked in a room with a bunch of clothed strangers while some guy devours your body. Sean makes no attempt to engage them either - no "does that feel good?" no eye contact- he's just in it to act out his fantasies.

One other SC note (to take the thread even further off topic) - what was the name of the rock musician who fucked Zack while Sean was egging him on - Luka or Lukas or something? (He also got blown by Sean after he seemingly got pretty drunk.) He doesn't appear to be on the site anymore - his videos don't show up under Zack.

[CurveballNYC]

This kind of analysis always makes me laugh a little. We expect these guys to be "into it" with every guy and every girl with equal intensity, when they're not even really actors or porn stars. Attraction could explain a lot, as well as attitude.

My read of Connor is that he's just a pansexual anything goes guy that may have been reluctant to do a lot on film first, but now he's found himself.

Agree totally JB. What Stats and Mike are forgetting is that fucking a girl is very different from fucking a guy

If you've ever been straight-identified, you know all the rules for fucking a girl, but none for being with a guy. That's why sex with guys who are just coming to terms with who they are is always awkward - they just want sex, but since you're another guy, they're not sure how aggressive they are supposed to be.

Connor's always been a cipher to me: he seems like the last guy in the world to be doing porn of any type - very staid and conservative, the guy who is always the designated driver. But that could just be what they are letting us see of him.

[CurveballNYC]

You're not alone!

In one of the PA episodes, Travis talked about how some of the nerves that we saw towards the beginning of his CF career had to do with him being intimidated by the bigger guys. I think that when he's topping he's making an effort to be more assertive and controlling to compensate for the fact that he's sometimes smaller or more shy than the other guy. I personally like seeing different sides of him (especially the sweet, patient, breaking-in-a-new-guy Travis).

No matter what, he's still going to giggle and grin at the end of the scene (and probably comment on the volume of jizz on or around him).

Travis seems to undergo a Jekyll and Hyde transformation when he is having sex. Bottom or top, he gets super intense about it and seems to lose himself in the action.

That could just be who he is or it could be latent guilt about doing porn.

What are we thinking about the kid story? He doesn't seem like a guy who'd be a baby daddy, but he didn't seem like he'd be a stripper in gay club in Denver eithre.

[CurveballNYC]

Bryan from chaosmen said on several occasions that straight guys in general don't like to use a condom and most of his models prefer to do their scenes raw (even if they never fucked a guy before). Based on that, the choice to go bareback rests most likely on the models and not the studio.

Which is truly insane given that Craigslist and Manhunt are filled with guys who will swear they are straight but just looking to get their dicks sucked or their asses fucked or whatever.

Just because their partner on the gay porn website tells Bryan they are straight....

[CurveballNYC]

Ha! Drinking the kool-aid and homophobic. Nice!

Straight men can get nothing worse than chlamydia? Really? According to the CDC, 31 percent of cases of HIV are from heterosexual sex in the U.S., and there are other STDs besides chlamydia straight men get.

But this is exactly the kind of thinking that explains why guys in denial are some of the worst people out there when it comes to safe sex. The fact that these guys are "presumably straight" is, as most of us have all admitted, conjecture and what comes from the promotional material.

The short-life of the guys-gone-bi site notwithstanding, at least some of these guys could be bi, experimenting and gay.

And the fact that - horrors - they've allowed those diseased gay and bi men to occasionally have sex raw with the CF group, this group is now tainted by spreading possible diseases to each other - that is, if you're going to blame the gay men.

Come on.

I now have a major crush on you Jay.

Let's also throw in that gay porn is essentially prostitution but somehow filming it makes it legal, and there are decent odds that a lot of these guys are making extra money on the side, regardless of what they tell themselves their sexuality is.

Damn, I know if I was a hedge fund manager, I'd easily drop 2 or 3 grand to have Lucas over for a night. Ten grand if Corbin would throw in Trey and Travis.

And it's not like there aren't any gay hedge fund managers...

[CurveballNYC]

PS. Travis looks gorgeous in that photo. It's his face.

Travis is gorgeous. Why the idiot didn't try and pursue a modeling career is beyond me. though perhaps he is not tall enough?

[Asenath]

Travis is gorgeous. Why the idiot didn't try and pursue a modeling career is beyond me. though perhaps he is not tall enough?

He's leaning next to Dawson, who is in the neighborhood of 5'11/6'0 and Connor who is somewhere around 6'2. This puts him at an estimated height of. . .too short for runway work. Sadly.

[statsguy]

Agree totally JB. What Stats and Mike are forgetting is that fucking a girl is very different from fucking a guy

I spent two full paragraphs describing how Connor fucks girls differently from guys, so I don’t think this is a fair statement.

If you've ever been straight-identified, you know all the rules for fucking a girl, but none for being with a guy. That's why sex with guys who are just coming to terms with who they are is always awkward - they just want sex, but since you're another guy, they're not sure how aggressive they are supposed to be.

Agreed. And watching new cf guys go through this, first as tops and then as bottoms is part of what makes CF interesting.

But at this point Connor has fucked a zillion guys and is hardly coming to grips with fucking a guy. My complaint with Connor is that he puts on a completely different persona when he’s fucking a guy vs when he’s fucking a girl; and the most noticeable difference is all the fake moans that he makes when fucking guys that he doesn’t make when fucking girls. Again, the example I used before: faking moans when fucking Travis but no moans when fucking Delila – all in the same scene.

What I don’t know is whether this is Connor’s natural state, or he is coached to behave in this manner. Is Corbin saying to the models, don’t sound like you enjoy it too much because we want to be sure that the viewers know you’re straight? Given that Connor makes all kinds of sounds fucking Travis and then rolls over and makes none of these sounds fucking Delila, I assume that Corbin is telling his tops to moan and groan when fucking guys. He should stop it.

Historically, cf tops didn't make fake moans when fucking. In going back and watching the TJ and Ben videos, including all the fuck fests, the models do not make a lot of fake moans and groans, only breathing and the occasional moan when someone does something to one of the other models. I also think that the collaboration with ba contributed to cf's "fake moan" problem. In the ba bts videos you can regularly hear the director’s coaching the models to be louder.

The fake moans, especially by tops fucking, isn’t limited to Connor. There are a number of the CF guys, that have been around awhile, that do the same thing, e.g. Dawson, Kent, Cain, and Cameron.

All of this varies from model to model. There’s always going to be a Trey that is louder and more vocal than most, or a Cameron, who was initially loud, but less so now. And some subscribers like loud sex more than others. But in general I think fake moans and groans by the tops while fucking is currently the biggest detraction to cf videos - it's a bone killer.

[michaelscarn]

Kent's treasure trail is appealing to me.

[Cruncher665]

Funny you should mention that.

I was watching a bunch of old SeanCody videos yesterday and thinking the same thing.
You know what was wild Phunk, the ones where Sean was still in the videos himself and would blow the guys. Watching them now (they were made back in '03 or so) - the camera work is so amateur compared to now - the 2nd cameraman would often walk into scene or block the first cameraman's shot.

But Sean, totally clothed, just chowing down on these guy's body's - I mean he spent a good 15 minutes on camera just devouring Adam's ass. And it was all so un-mutual. Think about how weird it must have been for the models. You're the only one naked in a room with a bunch of clothed strangers while some guy devours your body. Sean makes no attempt to engage them either - no "does that feel good?" no eye contact- he's just in it to act out his fantasies.

One other SC note (to take the thread even further off topic) - what was the name of the rock musician who fucked Zack while Sean was egging him on - Luka or Lukas or something? (He also got blown by Sean after he seemingly got pretty drunk.) He doesn't appear to be on the site anymore - his videos don't show up under Zack.

The rock musician was Luke. He and Zack did a video with Sean that was almost mesmerizing. It was easy to believe those guys were touching another guy for the first time.

Your point is well taken.

[CurveballNYC]

But at this point Connor has fucked a zillion guys and is hardly coming to grips with fucking a guy. My complaint with Connor is that he puts on a completely different persona when he’s fucking a guy vs when he’s fucking a girl;

Unless Connor is some sort of satyr, most of his experience fucking guys has been in front of the camera at CF, and he's not always sure where the guy's head is about the sex they're gong to have.

He has some chemistry with Olivia and he's reverting to old patterns. - it's something familiar, she's not telling him his dick is too big, go slowly,

And yeah if all the tops are suddenly moaning and noisy, it's a result of stage directions.

Take a look at one of the older videos - straight stud fuckfest and how absolutely petrified and uncomfortable Dirk and Logan are giggling nervously as they strain to take Lucas and Cody'd not very big dicks inside of them. - not nearly as sleek or scripted as today

[CurveballNYC]

He's leaning next to Dawson, who is in the neighborhood of 5'11/6'0 and Connor who is somewhere around 6'2. This puts him at an estimated height of. . .too short for runway work. Sadly.

Gotcha. Thanks. As someone, I think Phunk, mentioned in an earlier thread Travis gives the impression of being much taller, Dawson of being a big shorter.

[OwenMeany]

That's so true. Travis' proportions make him look six foot when he's with someone his size or shorter in a scene. It's hard to think of him as 5'9 or 10.

And is it just me? But something is rather creepy about these wrestling get-up pics...

[ShayPitt]

The rock musician was Luke. He and Zack did a video with Sean that was almost mesmerizing. It was easy to believe those guys were touching another guy for the first time.

Yes, SC0146 "The Teacher - Luke & Zack" is one of my favorite SC videos of all time. Seeing a guy suck cock and fuck for the very first time really turns me on.

[statsguy]

Take a look at one of the older videos - straight stud fuckfest and how absolutely petrified and uncomfortable Dirk and Logan are giggling nervously as they strain to take Lucas and Cody'd not very big dicks inside of them. - not nearly as sleek or scripted as today

And it looks quite genuine (natural). That's the cf style that drew me in. It's almost hypnotic to watch.

I also can't get over the difference in sexual action between the Memorial Day 6 way where couples paired up for most of the video to Straight Stud Fuck Fest 4, a five way with TJ, Derek, Lucas, Trevor, and Ben. In SSFF4 after a variety of oral the following occurs:

• Lucas fucks Derek
• TJ fucks Trevor
• Ben fucks Trevor
• TJ fucks Derek
• Lucas/TJ/Derek sandwich
• Lucas fucks TJ
• Lucas/TJ/Trevor sandwich sitting
• Ben fucks Derek
• Trevor fucks Derek
• Ben fucks TJ
• all cum on Ben's chest

While they probably agreed to all of this before starting, that's a lot more variety than has been in a single video in quite awhile. The video was two parts and lasted 52 min 42 sec. In 2006-2007 cf was still learning and trying new things regularly. It was more interesting (the good old days ).

[yeti8080]

The first CF vid of the new year. Who are they?

[statsguy]

Carson, Steve, Cain. (Although I'm least sure about Carson on the left.)

[michaelscarn]

Cain and Justin's bi tag is a great scene, in case anyone is wondering.

It's definitely one of Justin's top scenes. His chemistry with Ashley is way better than I expected it to be. He acts as though he's never seen a woman naked in his life, but he's not turned off by her. It makes for a fun time.

Ashley and Cain always work well together. This is a scene where it's obvious that all three people involved are having a good time, and those are always the best. Ashley was a great find for CF.

[mustangman]

If this is not the most tantalizing picture from the the two best studs from CF, I dont know what is.
By the way, where has Dawson been lately?

[Mnestor]

Cain and Justin's bi tag is a great scene, in case anyone is wondering.

It's definitely one of Justin's top scenes. His chemistry with Ashley is way better than I expected it to be. He acts as though he's never seen a woman naked in his life, but he's not turned off by her. It makes for a fun time.

Ashley and Cain always work well together. This is a scene where it's obvious that all three people involved are having a good time, and those are always the best. Ashley was a great find for CF.

Again a case where Ashley is an UNNECESSARY DISTRACTION and MY CAIN and JUSTIN were more into each other.

[Mnestor]

If this is not the most tantalizing picture from the the two best studs from CF, I dont know what is.
By the way, where has Dawson been lately?

Behind the scenes,outta sight and outta mind ,and over at CF SELECT like his Enemies and Many Haters Want Him. Hope this helps

[Mnestor]

Carson, Steve, Cain. (Although I'm least sure about Carson on the left.)

Oh Great I can Already hear those people whom don't like Carson and or Steve starting of the 2012 complaining about this match-up. Well at least MY CAIN is there for those that like him I LOVE HIM!!!! DAMN I wish CF would have gotten MY JACKSON & JOSHIE for this!!!! oh well

[Booker]

The first CF vid of the new year. Who are they?

Looks like Aiden, Steve and Cain to me. That looks like the bottom of Aiden's chin peeking through in the pic to me. Though I suppose as others have guessed that left side guy could be Carson.

In any event it's not the gay porn that will be ringing in 2012 for me. Whatever CFS.

[Asenath]

Cain and Justin's bi tag is a great scene, in case anyone is wondering.

I know, right? The part where Justin is going down on Ashley is so tentative and . . . he kind of laps at her, like he has no idea what he's doing. But he's not unhappy, just unfamiliar. It's so cute. And the part where he's thrusting into her and then backing that bottom up on Cain -- so hot. I would be willing to guess that was his first time with a woman. Like, ever.

Speaking of staging the scenes, I feel like we've been a step further removed from the models with the removal of a lot of the talking bits. The talking has been pruned out of the solos, there's hardly any catching up with the models at the start of the video, very little Behind The Scenes, and very little post-scene shower. If you're going to restrict access to the guys and keep them behind the Corbin Fisher veil of secrecy, at least give us a little room to love them before & after the videos. Pete's Attic is just not enough. Please, no scripting though. The boys doing dialogue is a recipe for giggles, not arousal. New scenarios might be nice, though.

[JaredPad]

Definitely Aiden on the left. He's got that tiny nevus at 1 o'clock on the edge of his left nipple. Aiden gonna get tagged?

[Asenath]

Hopefully, more of an Aiden sandwich.

I love him when he's scruffy. It just seems right.

[LumiereNocturne]

Speaking of staging the scenes, I feel like we've been a step further removed from the models with the removal of a lot of the talking bits. The talking has been pruned out of the solos, there's hardly any catching up with the models at the start of the video, very little Behind The Scenes, and very little post-scene shower. If you're going to restrict access to the guys and keep them behind the Corbin Fisher veil of secrecy, at least give us a little room to love them before & after the videos. Pete's Attic is just not enough. Please, no scripting though. The boys doing dialogue is a recipe for giggles, not arousal. New scenarios might be nice, though.

I think more post-scene talking and Behind-the-Scenes stuff would be good, but pre-scene talking can potentially be a little cringe-worthy at times.

I agree about the scenarios - a bit more variety would be interesting. For example, the Carson & Doug shower scenario was, to me at least, very sensual and erotic, and was a nice change from the usual. I liked it.

[PhunkSpunk]

2007-2009 had 10512 entries, which at that time was the longest in JUB history. 2010 alone had a not-too-shabby 6018. But 2011 had (drum roll, please)

11,582!

entries.

Pat yourselves on the back, and special thanks to Corbin and Mark for giving us so much non-porn related material to jaw over! More law suits! Let's make 2012 a 20,000+ entry year!

[PhunkSpunk]

FBut Sean, totally clothed, just chowing down on these guy's body's - I mean he spent a good 15 minutes on camera just devouring Adam's ass.

I would forget about time if my tongue was in Adam's ass. He was so gorgeous.

He came back about a year later and looked like a strung-out meth-head. So sad.

[PhunkSpunk]

Connor's always been a cipher to me: he seems like the last guy in the world to be doing porn of any type - very staid and conservative, the guy who is always the designated driver. But that could just be what they are letting us see of him.

When Connor started he looked like some indie/alternative rock dude with these big 'O' rings in his ear-lobes. If you look carefully you can still see the scar, but I'll bet anything they were surgically closed.

[PhunkSpunk]

Kent's treasure trail is appealing to me.

Aye yes, but he's a fake moaner

[PhunkSpunk]

And is it just me? But something is rather creepy about these wrestling get-up pics...

That's why they call 'Corbin' "Coach". When things get really out of control they call him "Father".

[PhunkSpunk]

Aseneth: the Sean Cody solos are actually better than their action scenes. You get a good feel for the guys. But then solos were SC's forte going back to when Sean was in charge.

SSFF4: Is it me or do TJ and Trevor, two of the best looking models ever (and both wearing white shell puka beads) seek each other out? Probably prompted but, ah, if it were spontaneous . . .

[michaelscarn]

"Do you like being fucked by this Dawson dick?"


Greatest thing Dawson has ever said.

[Asenath]

Just got in from the club. Happy new years, boys & girls, <3

[swmjck]

Just got in from the club. Happy new years, boys & girls, <3

My you're out late. Happy New Year, hope you have a great one and get your wish today for an Aiden sandwich.

[PhunkSpunk]

"Do you like being fucked by this Dawson dick?"


Greatest thing Dawson has ever said.

Which scene?

[CurveballNYC]

I would forget about time if my tongue was in Adam's ass. He was so gorgeous.

He came back about a year later and looked like a strung-out meth-head. So sad.

Yes, Adam had one of the greatest asses ever on amateur porn. Though he was so nervous I don't thing he responded to Sean at all.

I remember the comeback - it was a year or so later and he got fucked by some older guy and that was the last we saw of him.

[CurveballNYC]

When Connor started he looked like some indie/alternative rock dude with these big 'O' rings in his ear-lobes. If you look carefully you can still see the scar, but I'll bet anything they were surgically closed.

Hmmm. I didn't remember that about him (not that I doubt you, just didn't remember) - I will have to go back and look.

Connor is one of the few guys I don't mind totally hairless (pits and pubes) but it would be nice to see him grow them out for a video or two.

Dru should grow his in. I suspect they're a bit darker and the contrast against his pale skin would be excellent. And it's not like that donkey dick would get lost if he grew out his pubes.

[LumiereNocturne]

Unfortunately, I have to disagree. I think Connor looks silly totally hairless. I mean, trimming is one thing, but the bald shaven look is just ridiculous...