The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread!

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 18th, 2006, 02:15 PM

I don't think she's about hatred, either. But something like this is a little much, regardless of what you're trying to express. She could have done it in a more non-offensive way. I mean, it doesn't offend me personally, cause I don't really care about religion and such, but something tells me she eyed the controversy of it all. I mean, crucifying herself has NOTHING to do with Aids in Africa. Thats the biggest B.S. excuse to do something lame that I've ever heard - but I guess if doing dumb things for attention is her way of staying on top then I guess...do it? lol...I just wish she'd make better music lol. I'd deal with her crap then. But until then...

**evilest** · October 18th, 2006, 04:27 PM

If only it were genuine...

**josher** · October 20th, 2006, 10:50 AM

In an article in today's paper they said NBC will not show the scene, and since Madonna is one of the executive producers, she must have agreed to that.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 20th, 2006, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by IAmIntoAdultPorn

Looks like MCsNo1Fn uses his own photo as an avatar and I've seen his other photos in his gallery. I don't think he's so ugly. I don't even think he's ugly at all. I think MCsNo1Fn is handsome, but he's not my type.

Awww! Thats the nicest thing Ive heard in awhile. THANK YOU!!

I just can't see Madonna giving in to anyone. Then again if she wants it to air, I guess she doesn't have a choice. Why not just release a DVD and get on with it without the T.V. Special?

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by jared1986

I hope it's not that fat lady mariah scarey.

Oh grow the fuck up you big baby.

**21stCentury** · October 21st, 2006, 09:28 PM

The thing that the public notices most about Madonna is that she's true to herself. The way she acts and the way she talks and looks is the same as the way she was since the beginning of her music career. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Madonna is true to herself. Madonna isn't a con artist who pretends to be someone she's not to make the record buying public adore her therefore taking advantage of the record buying public that way and then once she's wealthy and famous enough she stops acting and shows her true self... well Madonna isn't like that. Madonna's not phony or in other words, a con artist. She's true to herself.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 21st, 2006, 10:15 PM

She's true to herself but needs to appear on three shows because she adopted a baby. Interesting. That's like when Britney Spears set up an interview with Matt Lauer to complain about how the media won't leave her alone. *smack* HELLOOO

Kuja · October 22nd, 2006, 12:42 AM

At the moment, she has absolutely nothing to promote. She's not doing this for publicity, if she was, she would have done this at the start of her tour, or before her CD launched.

Secondly, she's doing this to speak out against the stuff that's being said about the adoption and to hopefully shed more light on the conditions in which those people live in. God forbid she try to do some good. The dirty whore.

**PreTTy PeTe** · October 22nd, 2006, 12:51 AM

Rich People talking about adopting a a poor little black baby

what a bunch of creeps

If Oprah was still Black she would be ashamed

but how amazing is the billions that turned her into "THE MAN"

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 22nd, 2006, 01:01 AM

Well, people should be given KUDOS for adoption, I'll never take that away from ANYONE, even Madonna, but it just seems like an ODD time, seeing as how all this press around this crucifixion crap has gone around. The timing just seems fishy. I mean, if she really is doing it out of the goodness of her heart, then more power to her, that's great. If not, it will only add to the list of reasons why I cannot stand her.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 22nd, 2006, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe

Rich People talking about adopting a a poor little black baby

what a bunch of creeps

If Oprah was still Black she would be ashamed

but how amazing is the billions that turned her into "THE MAN"

Well, people should be given KUDOS for adoption, I'll never take that away from ANYONE, even Madonna, but it just seems like an ODD time, seeing as how all this press around this crucifixion crap has gone around. The timing just seems fishy. Why she feels the need to clear up THIS incident specifically is REALLY fishy. I mean, if she really is doing it out of the goodness of her heart, then more power to her, that's great. If not, it will only add to the list of reasons why I cannot stand her. I will DEFINITELY be watching the Oprah special, because I am very good at detecting heartfelt as opposed to fake media whore stuff. I did it with Britney, Mariah, Whitney, Christina and I can just always tell when someone is genuine, and I think there was only one time when I thought Madonna was genuine and that was on some VH1 special and how she was with the people she worked with (backup dancers). It showed she cares about those who work with her (the gift giving) and that she truly was interested in their lives. But I also got the impression that obviously it has to be like that or there would be a bitch fest.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 22nd, 2006, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by jared1986

omg that guy on your avatar is so ugly

Hmm, must've been when I stole one of your pictures.

**tavares** · October 22nd, 2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by MCsNo1Fn

...

Originally Posted by jared1986

omg that guy on your avatar is so ugly

Originally Posted by MCsNo1Fn

Hmm, must've been when I stole one of your pictures.

Whew, boy...!

Anyway...

I wonder if Oprah's ever going to take Gayle up on her challenge and ask Madonna about "Oprah? Yuck!"

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 22nd, 2006, 02:29 PM

What challenge?

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 22nd, 2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by jared1986

no you didn't

that guy is ugly, and I'm pretty

....so that is not my picture

You're right. You are pretty. Pretty ugly.

**tavares** · October 22nd, 2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by MCsNo1Fn

What challenge?

2 or 3 years ago, after Madonna went on Oprah to plug her children's books, Gayle came on for a show with Oprah so Oprah could see what she and Gayle actually talk about in regards to the show every night. One of the things they talked about was Madonna. Gayle said that Madonna did seem to be a little less strident with age, but thinks Oprah should've asked her about what happened in the Truth or Dare movie. Apparently, Madonna, in the movie, is told that they're tour's hitting Chicago and that's where Oprah lives, and Madonna says, "Oprah? Yuck!" Oprah said that she didn't want to seem like some little insecure school girl asking, "When you said 'Oprah Yuck', what did you mean?" But Gayle really thought she should if she was going to be promoting her books on the show.

So that's why I said maybe Oprah will take Gayle up on her challenge this time and find out what Madonna meant by Oprah Yuck.

**gazzax2** · October 24th, 2006, 04:19 PM

which is the best all-time madonna album? very hard question, as she has so many good ones.

I'd hav to say best album Erotica has so many good songs: Erotica, Deeper and Deeper, Bad Girl (Her best ballad), and Fever. Music would probably come in second, although my absolute fave madonna song is Drowned World/Substitute for Love from Ray of Light.

Madonna (1983) - Like a Virgin - Who's the Girlk Soundtrack - True Blue - Like A Prayer - I'm Breathless - Erotica - Bedtime Stories - Evita - Ray of Light - Music -American Life - Confessions

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 24th, 2006, 04:23 PM

I ADORE "Bedtime Stories." But I also am in love with "Evita" and "Ray Of Light." "Music" was half good, I think and "American Life" was about the same. (I like her earlier stuff as well, but not full albums, just specific songs). And I don't really like her "Confessions" album, so I guess I'd say...

BEDTIME STORIES

**darkwave6** · October 24th, 2006, 06:59 PM

"Like a Prayer" beyond a doubt!!!

**DryIce** · October 24th, 2006, 07:04 PM

"Erotica" for sure. It marked a turning point in Madonna's career where she veered away from mainstream-accessible pop and into darker, more adult, more experimental stuff. You can also tell that she's exorcising a lot of the hurt and anger from her failed marriage to Sean Penn and break-up with Warren Beatty in the songs -- a lot of great, bitter break-up songs on that album that I personally took solace in when going through my break-up with my first husband around that time.

Even though "Erotica" is now widely regarded as one of Madonna's most critically-acclaimed and underrated albums, it unfortunately got swept under the rug during all the hoopla over her "Sex" book and movie "Body of Evidence" at that time.

"Bedtime Stories" and "Ray Of Light" I would have to say run neck-and-neck as my second favorite Madonna album of all time. "Bedtime Stories" was another underrated and underappreciated album of hers.

**UnderUrVoodoo** · October 24th, 2006, 07:32 PM

i always like ray of light and bedtime stories

**Dave_83** · October 24th, 2006, 07:35 PM

not a fan of hers but I did enjoy that ray of light album with frozen on it.

**RenaissanceMan** · October 24th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by bw92116

"The Immaculate Collection" - all the good songs and none of the filler

Sometimes an album needs "filler"...sometimes those greatest hits albums almost sound toooo catchy. Ray of Light had some very good "filler" (where "filler" is "non-singles").

As an complete album I'd say either Ray of Light or Confessions, possibly Erotica...though you generally have to be "in that mood" to listen to it and call it the best.

**ahotjock71** · October 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM

I'm Breathless. It's where she really started to show a 'true' sultriness & versatility.

**portohottie** · October 24th, 2006, 08:22 PM

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[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Express Yourself Is my absolute all time favourite song!
The video is hot and so is she

**portohottie** · October 24th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Oops! I had a couple of good pics of her majesty, and it didn't come out

**gazzax2** · October 25th, 2006, 12:02 AM

i agree i love Express Yourself.

**xyboyms** · October 25th, 2006, 12:18 AM

Her first Immaculate Collection is essential for me because it has all the best from her early work; I love it!!! But overall I must say Confessions On A Dance Floor is fucking brilliant!!! I listen to it almost every day!!!!

**theFallenGod** · October 25th, 2006, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by MCsNo1Fn

Oh grow the fuck up you big baby.

uh oh i see what this is... its the start of another madonna (goddess) vs mariah(talentless hack) war....
well we all know whos better...bigger... and more popular.....
sorry but if mariah went and adopted a baby from africa it would only be because shes trying to elevate herself to madonnas level....

i personally think its wonderful that all these stars are adopting children from africa.... and shes right that it is bringing more attention to whats going on over there.....hopefully instead of starting wars more govt's will start fully aiding these countries...(wishful thinking i know but heres hoping)

**Warlock6** · October 25th, 2006, 01:26 AM

Lucky boy. Madonna will raise him well.

**Joshua_me** · October 25th, 2006, 01:43 AM

Oh please....

The bitch is a media whore....

I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. She has no CD coming out,
no tour to promote... Perhaps, I thought, she's just adopting this poor African child
out of the goodness of her heart. (With perhaps the small 'fly in the ointment' that the child's Father doesn't want it to happen....

)

But, NO....

She has a new children's book coming out just in time for Christmas.
(Sort of like Lance Bass did.... (Talk about being 'hung by the chimney')

Don't get me wrong, I like Madonna, but I fear 20 years of fame and fortune has caused her to lose her F-ing mind..

Joshy

**theFallenGod** · October 25th, 2006, 09:19 AM

Jesus how do you pick just one.....

ok best album is Erotica.... it has some of the best songs and your right about it being the turning point in her career....

but.... my favorite song of hers is actually "the Power of Goodbye" off of her Ray Of Light album....

**marcde** · October 25th, 2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by darkwave6

"Like a Prayer" beyond a doubt!!!

Yep - I have to agree

**GanymedeATL** · October 25th, 2006, 11:47 AM

Only Madonna could make purchasing black people fashionable again! That whole Civil War/Abolitionist thing was so tired.LOL

**Joshua_me** · October 25th, 2006, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by GanymedeATL

Only Madonna could make purchasing black people fashionable again! That whole Civil War/Abolitionist thing was so tired.LOL

...............

sb · October 25th, 2006, 02:19 PM

Music is probably my favourite album... followed by Confessions, ROL, Erotica, American Life and Bedtime Stories.

**natefan87** · October 25th, 2006, 03:02 PM

Bedtime Stories.

<3 Human Nature

Kuja · October 25th, 2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Joshua_me

Oh please....

The bitch is a media whore....

I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. She has no CD coming out,
no tour to promote... Perhaps, I thought, she's just adopting this poor African child
out of the goodness of her heart. (With perhaps the small 'fly in the ointment' that the child's Father doesn't want it to happen....

)

But, NO....

She has a new children's book coming out just in time for Christmas.
(Sort of like Lance Bass did.... (Talk about being 'hung by the chimney')

Don't get me wrong, I like Madonna, but I fear 20 years of fame and fortune has caused her to lose her F-ing mind..

Joshy

Profits from the book will go directly to the Raising Malawi foundation. And I don't think she even once mentioned the book during the interview on Oprah. I may be wrong, I tuned in like eight minutes into it.

Seriously, all these arguments are fucking ridiculous! Who the fuck would ADOPT a CHILD as a publicity stunt!? Honestly.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 25th, 2006, 05:04 PM

Honestly, I have to give her some credit. Even though she does have this book coming out, I don't see how taking on a huge responsibility of a less fortunate child could benefit her in the long run once the book is out and about. Yeah, it gets her name in the news, but have any of the media articles really stated anything about her book? Not that I've seen. As much as I don't care for her any longer, I do think she was sincere in this adoption. I question her actions alot, even this one, but I find that she is just trying to bring joy and a better life to someone less fortunate. The way she went about it, African Idol, was kind of irking me, but you know what, at least she did it at all. This doesn't make me like her music or her publicity stunts any, but I do have respect for her charitable nature, which is another reason I love Mariah, but I digress. She can't be SHOCKED by the media attention surrounding it but I do believe they are being a bit harsh. I believe she is genuine about her desire for adopting this child and i look forward the healthy raising of the boy.

**bigpayback** · October 25th, 2006, 05:28 PM

I see she's still speaking in a British accent. LOL

**Ares** · October 25th, 2006, 07:07 PM

Coming from someone who hasn't been following the whole baby issue thing (I actually watched the show today to see the Dixie Chicks), I think she handled herself really well. She seemed sincere and honest when she was answering the questions. From what she talked about in the interview, with the adoption process and the foundation, it doesn't seem to be for publicity. She seems to genuinely care. If she didn't then she is one hell of an actress.

**DryIce** · October 25th, 2006, 07:26 PM

She came across as the class act she has evolved into over the years from her by-gone days of rolling around on stage in her underwear.

And she pretty much branded her detractors as the shallow, insipid bottom-feeders that they are without stooping to their level and actually calling them that.

For anyone to say that she is not genuine and sincere in her adoption of this child and in her broader philanthropic efforts is simply a reflection of that person's toxic personality and intrinsic inability to have compassion for others.

**RenaissanceMan** · October 25th, 2006, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Kuja

Who the fuck would ADOPT a CHILD as a publicity stunt!? Honestly.

That's what I'm thinking...

You might kiss Britney Spears as a publicity stunt or jump around on Oprah's couch for (some sort of) a publicity stunt...but adopt a child from Africa? Yes of course money's not a problem for her, she's got people to help her, but she's still adopting...

**xyboyms** · October 25th, 2006, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by bigpayback

I see she's still speaking in a British accent. LOL

LOL! Oh bloody boo-gah....we oughtta tear the mickey outta 'er......LOL

**cropofthecream** · October 26th, 2006, 12:19 AM

OMG WTF's up with her faux-british accent??

**horny_angel** · October 26th, 2006, 02:42 AM

I totally dig her accent..even if it's un peu FAUX (or whatever u may call it)! ...so posh and regal which befits her leonine nature...and it makes her a lot more interesting!

Je t'adore MADONNA!

VIVE LA REINE!!!

Can't wait to watch her on Oprah when it airs here in Manila!

**starlight70** · October 26th, 2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by ahotjock71

I'm Breathless. It's where she really started to show a 'true' sultriness & versatility.

Wow.. I thought I would be alone here. I think this is her under-rated album. I liked it when she tried jazzy songs.

So, I'm gonna go with I'm Breathless too. Followed closely by Like A Prayer, and then Confessions On The Dancefloor.

**MCsNo1Fn** · October 26th, 2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Ares

If she didn't then she is one hell of an actress.

Haven't you seen any of her movies? I can assure you, she wasn't acting LOL.

pimpofdarkness777 · October 28th, 2006, 08:05 AM

I'm gonna have to say Confessions...I like how all the songs blend together

renegade_killerbee · October 28th, 2006, 07:38 PM

Now that 2006 is winding down what do you wish had happened differently in the zany Madonna world over the past twelve months? Here's my picks:

THAT U.S. RADIO IGNORED "Sorry" causing the superlative song to stall at a totally inappropriate No. 58. Nevermind that radio shut out "Get Together" and "Jump" (those songs WERE garbage). "Sorry" deserved a lot better than what it got. Boo, ClearChannel and the other robotic radio stations out there. Your loss.

THAT MADONNA'S PEOPLE put out "I'm Going To Tell You A Secret" Period. What was the secret? How to open the dual disc package without breaking it? I was so put off by this project that I still haven't finished watching the DVD itself ... which is almost undistinguishable from the CD also enclosed. Utter confusion.

MADONNA HERSELF. Those concert ticket prices. Enough said.

~ Kevin in Tulsa

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