Zachary Quinto [merged]

[devildog]

He's a cool guy.

[MystikWizard]

Well that shouldn't be too hard a role to play for him.

[aijalon18]

im glad. he needs to open up. he is so gay. how can anyone think otherwise? maybe this role will make him feel more comfortable with coming out.

Yea I cant believe people are still questioning whether or not he's gay.

[bostonboy20]

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[sokker]

Zach is such a cute guy. I love him, and I love him for taking on gay parts and staying true to himself. Sure, he may not be out for the public, but I mean come on.. It's not like he's hiding and bearding either. He even took his boyfriend to awards shows, he's practically out already.

[Tadaa]

Isn't he 'in character' with that headband?

No he's not. The character he's playing is more subdued. And the biggest asshole in the play. That's his "I don't care what people think" theater style

[masgrandeburrito]

Zachary Quinto is held close by his co-star Christian Borle in the first production shots released from their off-Broadway production of Angels in America.

[Bored]

Why do you think he is gay? I think it would be cool if he was.

[altlover85]

I thought when I read the thread title that ZQ had come out. Ooops!

[Bored]

I am happy that he made this video. I think it's cool how he cares.

[BlondeCanadian]

This video must be his way of quieting coming out... It doesnt make sense otherwise? how could he be telling kids that it is going to get better if he hasnt experienced anythign similar to it?

[Spiff]

Still to come: the Anderson Cooper version.

Closeted famous guy teams with out famous woman. Close enough.

[MercuryJones]

I feel like my head just exploded by the irony of a closeted actor telling gay teens that it gets better

I swear, if you handed some people a million $ they'd complain that their taxes will go up.

I don't know if Quinto is gay or not. I'm glad he's trying to do something supportive of gay teens.

[hotatlboi]

Closeted famous guy teams with out famous woman. Close enough.

Anderson is not really even closeted. Closeted people don't usually walk around in public and go to public parties with their boyfriends.

Just because he doesn't announce "I'm gay" on his TV show doesn't mean he is closeted.

[altlover85]

I guess there's degrees of closeted/outness. Out to the nation, out to the public, out to your friends and family, only out to a few people, closted.

[Spiff]

Anderson is not really even closeted. Closeted people don't usually walk around in public and go to public parties with their boyfriends.

Oh really? Wow, I didn't realize coming out was so easy. All I ever had to do was go to parties with my boyfriend and I'm officially out? Wow, what a load off my shoulders. For all these years all the other out gay guys have been doing it the hard way.

[diamondstar]

Not everyone has to be gay or in the closet to support gays. Am just glad people like Mr. Quinto speaks out for us as do many others.

[hotatlboi]

I guess there's degrees of closeted/outness. Out to the nation, out to the public, out to your friends and family, only out to a few people, closted.

yeah that explains it better.

[MercuryJones]

you don't think it's ironic for a guy in the closet to talk about how much better it gets for gay kids?

I think you're assuming he's gay and closeted.

[Basileus]

Mr Quinto may not have appeared on the cover of People magazine saying "Yup, I'm gay", but as far as I know he has never really kept it a secret, or even denied it. Besides, the entire planet doesn't have to know I am gay for me to be considered "in the closet".

At least he is doing something, unlike other Hollywood stars who really are deeply in the closet and in fake hetero relationships.

[altlover85]

Mr Quinto may not have appeared on the cover of People magazine saying "Yup, I'm gay", but as far as I know he has never really kept it a secret, or even denied it. Besides, the entire planet doesn't have to know I am gay for me to be considered "in the closet".

At least he is doing something, unlike other Hollywood stars who really are deeply in the closet and in fake hetero relationships.

I think Basileus has a point.

[MercuryJones]

I think Basileus has a point.

Agreed.

I think of "closeted" as denying that you're gay, or pretending to be straight.

I've been out since I was 12, but even I haven't announced that I'm gay to every person I've ever known.

[barnbuddy]

how 'bout just thanks Zach

[slnattak]

Good for him. But I don't need his protection or support or his love. It's just nice to have.

[altlover85]

well, I don't think you need to be gay to make a "It gets better" video. If you have relatives or someone very close to you is gay and they went through the same kinds of problems, I think you can make the video.

As for Quinto not being out. How do you know he isn't? How do you know he isn't out to the people who matter to him?
I think it's very reasonable to want to separate one's personal life from business. What exactly does acting have to do with one's sexuality? Oh right, not very much.
Not everyone has to be like Lance Bass and go on the cover of People magazine and be like 'Hey y'all I'm gay!"

edit: oh darn people took the words from out of my mouth.

Lance was outed basically.

The standard is different for actors because they choose to be in the public eye.

Who are you talking about Mikami?

[hungrybrownbear]

Closeted famous guy teams with out famous woman. Close enough.

Can we stop with the Anderson Cooper is a closet homosexual business, just because he doesn't come out on national public television does not mean he's not out. His personal life is not relevant as a reporter and would probably serve to detract from his job. If he was a politician, that would be a different story.

[Marco Sensual]

If it's better then why can't this guy who works in Hollywood publicly acknowledge his sexual orientation?

BECAUSE HIS SEXUALITY IS NOT OF YOUR BUSINESS.

[altlover85]

Marco, I would say if you choose to be in Hollywood you choose to be in the public eye. Therefore you should come out. Otherwise you send a message that being gay is something to be hidden away.

[BlondeCanadian]

Marco, I would say if you choose to be in Hollywood you choose to be in the public eye. Therefore you should come out. Otherwise you send a message that being gay is something to be hidden away.

I wouldnt even go that far, I would just say that if your going to say its gets better to gay teenagers across the globe being bullied you should a either state how you know if it isnt obvious (i.e if your in the closet or if you have a relative your speaking on behalf).. I would like to thank him for promoting help lines and reaching out but you damn well shouldnt promise them it will get better without clarifying your knowledge of how you know that...
IF I promise it gets better is going to be the new slogan for this campaign I hope they pick gay people who are out to endorse either that or they explain a bit more like we are going to make sure if gets better (showing their dedication to our rights) otherwise it is confusing..

[altlover85]

I wouldnt even go that far, I would just say that if your going to say its gets better to gay teenagers across the globe being bullied you should a either state how you know if it isnt obvious (i.e if your in the closet or if you have a relative your speaking on behalf).. I would like to thank him for promoting help lines and reaching out but you damn well shouldnt promise them it will get better without clarifying your knowledge of how you know that...
IF I promise it gets better is going to be the new slogan for this campaign I hope they pick gay people who are out to endorse either that or they explain a bit more like we are going to make sure if gets better (showing their dedication to our rights) otherwise it is confusing..

Good point BlondeCanadian!

[rysmiley88]

Closeted famous guy teams with out famous woman. Close enough.

Well said, and spoken, Ellen! Here's my Beef..Anderson Cooper is a well known Homosexual, (among our Community He had the chance to stand up, and publicly announce his Homosexuality, and announce his support for younger Gay people struggling with their sexuality. It would've been a powerful move if he did. We need more Ellens, Neil Patrick Harrrises, Meredith Baxter Birneys, and all the rest of the Clebrities who were courageous enough to be themselves! Come out, Come out, Wherever you are!!!

[MTLDude]

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I feel like my head just exploded by the irony of a closeted actor telling gay teens that it gets better

Do you think that every single celebrity that happen to be gay should make a big press conference and anounce it in public? His sexuality is NONE of our business. IF he is indeed gay, the best thing he can do would be to live his life in positive way...

[braex27]

I think it's fantastic. Regardless of whether he's gay, I think it's important that everyone tells gay youth that things get better. Growing up is difficult for a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. All help is welcome.

[Sam Blum]

For some people it's not important who tells them how life is or from what kind of experience that person speaks- for others, it is very important. For myself, this kind of message needs to come from people who have personally succeeded against the worst kind of odds regardless of not being absolutely pretty and muscled and regardless of not coming from privileged origins and not being genius; you know, just your average Joe. This is important because the average young guy or girl who finds themselves in a crisis of identity regarding their homosexuality needs to be able to normalise, not be told by the lucky few that things will get better, one day...

And the idea of an actor telling this message is just ridiculous, unless that actor is say, a well known actor who once may have played in Dr. Quinn and who now makes his very own films that show gay characters living exciting and simultaneously somehow normalised lives (even though they are all dropping like flies because of the genre). THis actor would be okay, because he actually IS the real deal! Bullshit is pointless when you're supposed to be trying to convince kids who feel emotionally wrought and suicidal. Fuck, it's not like we don't have enough people out there who actually are true success stories having fought against tremendous odds to live fulfilling lives. I thought ad people were supposed to be connected. How is it that I can name twenty people off the top of my head who would be a million times better to choose than this wet rag, and yet, this insulting and somewhat boring 'actor' is rubbing salt into the wounds?

Again, we must choose the messenger carefully: this kind of shit could in fact convince kids that we're not seriously interested in their well-being.

[MercuryJones]

I thought ad people were supposed to be connected. How is it that I can name twenty people off the top of my head who would be a million times better to choose than this wet rag, and yet, this insulting and somewhat boring 'actor' is rubbing salt into the wounds?

Again, we must choose the messenger carefully: this kind of shit could in fact convince kids that we're not seriously interested in their well-being.

There isn't one messenger. There are a lot of messengers. The messenger who helps one person might not be the one who helps another.

This isn't about your political or social agenda and favoring people based on it: it's an effort to lend a little hope to kids who need it.

[MercuryJones]

Some of you guys are NEVER satisfied, but hilariously, those same ones aren't doing SHIT to help. Those ones, i'll give a simple message - shut up.

QFT.

Whenever anyone does something good there's always some do-nothing cuntface who complains because they didn't do it the way they think it should be done. For people like that, these kids are just political abstractions.

[freefall]

He stands up for us. That is what really matters

At some point, I begin to wonder a gLee video for Trevor Project, but it is really unlikely to happen.

[altlover85]

Again, we must choose the messenger carefully: this kind of shit could in fact convince kids that we're not seriously interested in their well-being.

If you want Chad Allen (not sure why you were tiptoeing around his identity) to do one of these videos, then send his people an email. I'm assuming he has an email address or is on Facebook or Twitter. Right now, he's not doing a video, so why aren't you jumping on him for NOT doing a video instead of jumping on ZQ for doing a video?

ZQ might save a life through his video, whereas Chad Allen isn't saving lives (through these kinds of videos) because he hasn't made one. I would also add ZQ has more mainstream recognition than Chad Allen. How many young people (10-20) were even watching TV when Dr. Quinn was on?

I'd also like to ask, where is the evidence for ZQ being gay? I want pictures, videos, or stories from credible sources.

[RyanE23]

I'm the type of person who feels that words are more powerful than actions. But that is just me. That being said, I think this (It Gets Better Project) is a good thing, regardless of whether its participants are gay or straight. The main point is people are being bullied (both gay and straight) and we as country need to figure out a way to stop it. Or at least acknowledge that it does happen.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

[hungrybrownbear]

Rachel Maddow shows this to be a lie every night Mon-Fri at 9:00 pm Eastern Standard Time on MSNBC.
She's an out and proud lesbian. And a damn-good political commentator.
Her being out does not detract in any way from how she performs in her job.

Rachel Maddow is political commentator, where her opinion matters --that's a rather big difference.

Anderson Cooper is supposed to be an unbiased reporter, whether he is gay or not should be irrelevant.

[BostonPirate]

It should not be something he has to hide either.

Why is it that the only peoples race, gender or sexual orientation are never argued about are straight white men?

Why can't a gay man present the news on gay issues in a straightforward way?

[hungrybrownbear]

If he doesn't choose to come out to the entire world, that is his choice, no one has a right to expect or demand that of him. His personal life is his personal life, he's out to the people that are his friends and his family. He's not going out of his way to hide it either. Just because he doesn't choose to take on a philanthropist role as a public figure that he's not obligated to take on in the first place, does not by any means mean he is hiding it.

[BostonPirate]

That's all true, but that wasn't your original point.

You said coming out would influence his ability to remain neutral, which is just a heap of shit.

EXACTLY

He seems to be talking in circles.

[altlover85]

If he doesn't choose to come out to the entire world, that is his choice, no one has a right to expect or demand that of him. His personal life is his personal life, he's out to the people that are his friends and his family. He's not going out of his way to hide it either. Just because he doesn't choose to take on a philanthropist role as a public figure that he's not obligated to take on in the first place, does not by any means mean he is hiding it.

You didn't answer BP's question.

Side note: LOL BP and Razorz!

[hungrybrownbear]

My original point was that people, due to THEIR biases, would see him less as a neutral reporter. NOT, he will personally lose neutrality. Which is not, a heap of shit.

[altlover85]

My original point was that people, due to THEIR biases, would see him less as a neutral reporter. NOT, he will personally lose neutrality. Which is not, a heap of shit.

Right, but people will never lose their bias if they don't see out and proud reporters who are also neutral.

[hungrybrownbear]

Right, but people will never lose their bias if they don't see out and proud reporters who are also neutral.

Right, but still doesn't mean AC should get accused as being some sort of coward that's hiding his sexuality for not taking on that role. He's already out, he just hasn't made a huge big proclamation about it, and he doesn't need to.

[altlover85]

Right, but still doesn't mean AC should get accused as being some sort of coward that's hiding his sexuality for not taking on that role. He's already out, he just hasn't made a huge big proclamation about it, and he doesn't need to.

So, for the next person you'll make the same excuse? When does the excuse stop working?

[fetaby]

He's already out, he just hasn't made a huge big proclamation about it, and he doesn't need to.

As long as there is such a thing as coming out, the big proclamation is necessary. When the day comes that we are legally equal, then the social side of coming out/not coming out will be moot.

[BostonPirate]

maybe it's just me, but when someone like ZQ says "it gets better" what I hear is "it gets better... as long as you change your voice and never speak out in public about who you are because even in the most liberal industry in the world, I still have to hide who I am."

that's not the kind of message that I'd want to send to a gay kid.

And yet you think its ok to support the republican party even though they have declared intentions of taking your civil rights from you.

That makes no sense.