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    Re: White Hate in Charlottesville, Virginia

    Kevin Williamson has written a witty piece in which he argues that what the alt-right boys (and, by inference, men) really need is a good fuck, but which they're not likely to get:

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    I have watched abit of Vice video.
    Everything is so stupid about this incident:/


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    Bears repeating in this thread.


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    Re: White Hate in Charlottesville, Virginia

    The government of Israel has not called to rebuke Trump for his pro-neo-nazi stance.

    Bibi Netanyahu is a slimy coward betraying the millions of dead from WW2. Shame on him and his government.

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    Re: White Hate in Charlottesville, Virginia

    It's very hard to believe that this is the same 'Charlottesville' that was in The Waltons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    It's very hard to believe that this is the same 'Charlottesville' that was in The Waltons.
    Didn't they have a book burning episode in The Waltons ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac135 View Post
    Didn't they have a book burning episode in The Waltons ?
    Yes. When Hitler was rising to power, John-Boy wrote an article for his newspaper on 'Mein Kamph' and the church decided a book-burning of German books was in order. They suddenly changed their minds when John-Boy saw a German Bible on the pile, pulled it out, and asked Flossie Brimmer to translate a few verses from Genesis.
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    Couldn't think of a better place to put this side note that I've come across in real life and have seen on the internet.

    What I find funny is that the same people that are complaining that getting rid of these statues is getting rid of history are probably the same people I've heard in real life as well as read it plenty of times on the internet, when a black person would bring up slavery they would say "get over it" or that they weren't a slave so they shouldn't be upset about it.

    Funny how those types of comments weren't labeled as trying to get "rid" of history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    The government of Israel has not called to rebuke Trump for his pro-neo-nazi stance.

    Bibi Netanyahu is a slimy coward betraying the millions of dead from WW2. Shame on him and his government.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40966720
    Netanyahu needs Trump's support in dealing with Iran...the current bogyman for Israel's sense of security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cormac135 View Post
    Didn't they have a book burning episode in The Waltons ?
    Good observation.... for destroying an historical record simply to appease ones sense of indignation over past events may well place the book burners in the same category as those book burners in Germany during the Nazi era, who blamed their nation's ills on those who they deemed were not truly German...more likely, sub human...i.e. Jews, Communists, Socialists, Queers, Gypsies etc.

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    Gotta love George. If I were to join Twitter, I would happily follow him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    Good observation.... for destroying an historical record simply to appease ones sense of indignation over past events may well place the book burners in the same category as those book burners in Germany during the Nazi era, who blamed their nation's ills on those who they deemed were not truly German...more likely, sub human...i.e. Jews, Communists, Socialists, Queers, Gypsies etc.
    Those advocating the destroying of the statues are deliberately stirring internal strife and animosity. Many Americans already feel victimized by the democrats and this ads fuel to the fire. The democrat promotion of racism in colleges with speech codes and racist courses such as "white privilege", "the problem of whiteness", black studies, inevitably cause a back lash.
    But, you should not have included Communism in your list. When they come to power they execute the opposition, end freedom of speech and the press, end private property and execute the wealthy, close the churches and execute many of the clergy. They are literally a mortal threat to many in society, and the threat of communism was a major reason for Hitler's rise to power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Those advocating the destroying of the statues are deliberately stirring internal strife and animosity. Many Americans already feel victimized by the democrats and this ads fuel to the fire. The democrat promotion of racism in colleges with speech codes and racist courses such as "white privilege", "the problem of whiteness", black studies, inevitably cause a back lash.
    But, you should not have included Communism in your list. When they come to power they execute the opposition, end freedom of speech and the press, end private property and execute the wealthy, close the churches and execute many of the clergy. They are literally a mortal threat to many in society, and the threat of communism was a major reason for Hitler's rise to power.
    Hitler's rise to power was his charisma, his identifying the target and led his sheep to follow. You know, it's like Trump. ben, do not simplify this with a faulty argument. You are another target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    Netanyahu needs Trump's support in dealing with Iran...the current bogyman for Israel's sense of security.
    I am no fan of Netanyahu and his nationalist right government, but Israel should be able to survive as a nation. When its opponents will not deal with their existence as a nation as a fait accompli, and give hope to those opposed to Israel's very existence like Hamas and Hezbollah ever... what is Israel supposed to do? We should not confuse rightful distaste for Netanyahu's actions with an overall anti-Israel viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballcaphair View Post
    Hitler's rise to power was his charisma, his identifying the target and led his sheep to follow. You know, it's like Trump. ben, do not simplify this with a faulty argument. You are another target.
    You are trying to oversimplfy both the rise of Hitler and the election of Trump, neither of which you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Those advocating the destroying of the statues are deliberately stirring internal strife and animosity. Many Americans already feel victimized by the democrats and this ads fuel to the fire. The democrat promotion of racism in colleges with speech codes and racist courses such as "white privilege", "the problem of whiteness", black studies, inevitably cause a back lash.
    But, you should not have included Communism in your list. When they come to power they execute the opposition, end freedom of speech and the press, end private property and execute the wealthy, close the churches and execute many of the clergy. They are literally a mortal threat to many in society, and the threat of communism was a major reason for Hitler's rise to power.
    Germany's economic plight with hyper inflation, and mass unemployment brought the Nazi Party to power, as a partner in a coalition government. The National Socialist Party Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; NSDAP represented the working classes, for Communism had been successfully dealt with during the 1920s. With the death of President Hindenburg in 1934 Hitler assumed the roles of chancellor, and president...becoming, leader Führer of the nation...

    All totalitarian governments have an established track record executing their enemies including the Nazi Party...no exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    I am no fan of Netanyahu and his nationalist right government, but Israel should be able to survive as a nation. When its opponents will not deal with their existence as a nation as a fait accompli, and give hope to those opposed to Israel's very existence like Hamas and Hezbollah ever... what is Israel supposed to do? We should not confuse rightful distaste for Netanyahu's actions with an overall anti-Israel viewpoint.
    There is no anti Israeli sentiment when questioning Netanyahu's obsessive focus on Iran, for most of the opposition to Netanyahu's proposed military plans to deal with Iran, are from the security, and military establishment in Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    Germany's economic plight with hyper inflation, and mass unemployment brought the Nazi Party to power, as a partner in a coalition government. The National Socialist Party Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; NSDAP represented the working classes, for Communism had been successfully dealt with during the 1920s. With the death of President Hindenburg in 1934 Hitler assumed the roles of chancellor, and president...becoming, leader Führer of the nation...

    All totalitarian governments have an established track record executing their enemies including the Nazi Party...no exceptions.
    I was disagreeing with your inclusion of communists among innocent groups: Jews .....Queers and gypsies". Communists were every bit as evil as the Nazis, and the fear of communism was an important factor is Hitlers rise, bringing him support of many groups for whom the communists were a mortal threat: industrialists, land owners, and the clergy. Remember, he was able to achieve his dictatorial power, by blaming the Reichstag fire on the communists.

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    ^The Reichstag fire of 1933 or false flag assault that blamed a Communist activist, rather than the Nazis for the arson.

    President Hindenburg died in 1934 leading Hitler to assume total power.

    The threat of Communist aggression did not prevent Germany signing a non aggression pact with the Soviet Union in 1939, otherwise known as The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that led to the beginning of the second world war when Germany invaded, and occupied the western half of Poland, and the Soviet Union invaded, and occupied the eastern part of Poland.

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    Re: White Hate in Charlottesville, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    You are trying to oversimplfy both the rise of Hitler and the election of Trump, neither of which you understand.
    What a coincidence. Neither do you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    They are literally a mortal threat to many in society, and the threat of communism was a major reason for Hitler's rise to power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    the fear of communism was an important factor is Hitlers rise
    There is an enormous (i.e. 'bigly' or 'yuge') difference between 'threat' and 'fear'. You can be afraid of something, but not threatened by it. Like Hitler, Trump put the fear in his supporters by unsubstantiated and misdirected threats, and, as it turns out, the actual threats were his supporters themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    ^The Reichstag fire of 1933 or false flag assault that blamed a Communist activist, rather than the Nazis for the arson.

    President Hindenburg died in 1934 leading Hitler to assume total power.

    The threat of Communist aggression did not prevent Germany signing a non aggression pact with the Soviet Union in 1939, otherwise known as The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that led to the beginning of the second world war when Germany invaded, and occupied the western half of Poland, and the Soviet Union invaded, and occupied the eastern part of Poland.
    I was not speaking of the fear of communist aggression from the outside,but fear of the communists coming to power in Germany as causing many to support Hitler as most likely to prevent the take over. Communists execute many when they come to power as it appeared for a while that they might.

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    Communists execute many when they come to power as it appeared for a while that they might.
    Ahem: The Holocaust. (Or is that fake news as well?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was not speaking of the fear of communist aggression from the outside,but fear of the communists coming to power in Germany as causing many to support Hitler as most likely to prevent the take over. Communists execute many when they come to power as it appeared for a while that they might.
    While acknowledging that Stalin murdered more of his countrymen, than did Hitler there is the thought that systematic extermination of human beings simply because they are Jews, rather than a threat to Hitler's position exposed the paranoia of Hitler's regime determined to kill those who posed no threat to Nazi power, or to the well being of the German people...unless, you believe that Gays, and Gypsies were as much a threat to the Nazi regime as were the Jews?

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    The Italian Fascist Party during the years following the end of WW1 were the leading opponents of Communists attempting to subvert the government of Italy, and for this reason The Italian Fascist Party was invited into a coalition government in 1922...after the great march on Rome that encouraged the Italian monarchist establishment to work with the Fascists, rather than against them.

    The very same monarchist Italian establishment would engineer the collapse of the Fascist regime in July, 1943 leading to Italy, in September 1943 joining the Allied nations' campaign against Nazi Germany. The result of a referendum in 1946 the Italian monarchy was removed from power, and replaced with a republic led by conservatives determined to restore democratic governance to Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Ahem: The Holocaust. (Or is that fake news as well?)
    Both Communists and Nazis were and are very evil and killed millions. But when Hitler was running it was known that if the Communists came to power private property would be confiscated, churches would be closed and millions would be executed. Indeed the fascists learned much from the communist regimes which preceeded them. Communists taught the fascists to be totalitarians.
    Hitler's plans were not fully disclosed before his election and were not seen as a threat to most Germans. The communists were a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Both Communists and Nazis were and are very evil and killed millions.
    And yet they are gaining power and being allowed to 'come out of the closet' so to speak through Trump. They no longer have to hide behind hoods and gather in secret meetings. They are out in the open now and marching and then expecting us to feel sorry for them when they are recognised and ostracised by their friends, families, neighbours, and even their employers and fellow employees. And Trump continues to stir the pot and increase their hatred and power. How is that different than Nazi Germany? Hitler stirred the Nazis into action and that is exactly what Trump is doing.

    You've been going on about how employers have the right to fire employees for being gay. Does that also apply to Nazis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Both Communists and Nazis were and are very evil and killed millions. But when Hitler was running it was known that if the Communists came to power private property would be confiscated, churches would be closed and millions would be executed. Indeed the fascists learned much from the communist regimes which preceeded them. Communists taught the fascists to be totalitarians.
    Hitler's plans were not fully disclosed before his election and were not seen as a threat to most Germans. The communists were a threat.
    In 1933 the threat to the German people was hyper inflation, and mass unemployment the result of the collapse of the United States stock market in 1929, and again in 1931. German government bonds were being redeemed by anxious American bond holders leaving the Weimar Republic government without liquidity.

    We should recall that the measures adopted by the victorious Allied nations at the Versailles negotiations in 1919 imposed enormous financial punitive conditions on Germany, that resulted in the collapse of German industry and indirectly led to the rise of the Nazi Party that promised to reverse those measures. The United States, supported by the United Kingdom amended the earlier measures on two occasions, against the opposition of France. Those amendments improved the conditions for the German economy but were not sufficient to stave off mass unemployment, and hyper inflation.

    There was great resentment among the German people the result of losing vast amounts of German territory, occupation of the Rhineland by Allied forces, and Allied administrators, and great restrictions on the size of the German Army, Navy, and Airforce...and financial compensation that wrecked the German economy's capacity to recover from WW1....leading to the collapse of The Weimar Republic....

    Read here, for your edification:http://alphahistory.com/weimarrepubl...of-versailles/
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    Re: White Hate in Charlottesville, Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio;10797324[COLOR=#b22222
    ]Both Communists and Nazis were and are very evil and killed millions. But when Hitler was running it was known that if the Communists came to power private property would be confiscated, churches would be closed and millions would be executed. Indeed the fascists learned much from the communist regimes which preceeded them. Communists taught the fascists to be totalitarians.
    Hitler's plans were not fully disclosed before his election and were not seen as a threat to most Germans. The communists were a threat.
    Wow, ben. "You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. nobody wants to say it, but I will say it right now." - President trump. Thanks for repeating your understanding. I apparently do not understand.
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