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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    This is hilarious and embarrassing (video below)
    how can America come to this ?

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    Rareboy ... help,
    this is bazaar ... I think it deserve a new thread of its own:



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    I can't help.

    I'm still swallowing from throwing up in my mouth listening to this nonsense.

    I'll bet that Rancid Prepuce still gets fired.

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    It was very painful to watch. When you have to let everyone know just how awesome it is to serve with you, and just so awesome to be you in the most staged claptrap clusterfuck imaginable... well, you're overcompensating bigly, hugely bigly! It doesn't matter who remains or is fired... seeing what the institution of the presidency and the executive branch has devolved into under Trump is depressing on one hand and infuriating on the other.

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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    After the press was overwhelmed yesterday at the Donald's circle jerk. . .I mean cabinet meeting; they are no longer allowed to film in the Capital's hallways: http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...lding_hallways

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    The suppression of the press is critical for the GOP to avoid having to talk about TrumpCo. and what they are doing in secret.

    It will come back to bite them in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    The suppression of the press is critical for the GOP to avoid having to talk about TrumpCo. and what they are doing in secret.

    It will come back to bite them in the ass.
    It certainly is not a violation of first amendment rights. They remain free to report whatever they please in whatever medium. -(-so long as it is not politically incorrect, which will get them into real trouble.) The first amendment gives them no more right to film in the hallways than the bathroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    It certainly is not a violation of first amendment rights. They remain free to report whatever they please in whatever medium.
    Except that they are NOT free to report what they are NOT allowed to investigate. Tell us how they can report what they do not know. Idiocy. It's like saying you're free to drive anywhere in the United States that you want as long as you don't drive on any streets, lanes, avenues, boulevards, roads, highways, freeways...

    If you thought about it for even a minute, you wouldn't contradict yourself so often. There are no first amendment rights if they are denied them.
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    I've always appreciated these words of wisdom when understanding that there are people posting here who believe that their society is....free, and transparent to serve the common good.

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    I share the alarm of sliding into fascist dictatorship as evidenced by the James Hodgkinson terrorist attack on the GOP Conressional baseball team. And in New York sand other cities liberals are running Julius Caesar as a vehicle for depicting-- and advocating--the assassination of the US President.

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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Oh give me a fucking break.

    I don't remember you and the other snowflakes having your panties in a twist when they did a similar Julius Caesar with Obama in the role a few years ago.

    And a random shooter with a history of violence and arrests only demonstrates why the US gun laws are such a fucking joke.

    Violence doesn't "intrude" on everyday life in America. Violence is a part of everyday life in America. A little more than a week ago, five people were shot to death in warehouse in Orlando. Is a warehouse in Orlando less innocent than a Virginia ballfield? Is a disgruntled worker taking his mad vengeance less of a demonstration of a country unhinged than a home-inspection specialist who fried his brain over politics? Is somebody who wounds over politics a worse murderer than someone who kills because he got fired? I admire the ability of anyone who can make that measured a moral choice.
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...-gun-violence/


    You are just looking for a way to connect dots and to exploit the situation.

    And instead of looking at why unstable people with a history of violence and arrests shouldn't be permitted access to firearms...mark my words...by tonight the NRA and the politicians will be talking about why even more people should have guns in order to be able to 'fight back'.

    Pathetic.

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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I share the alarm of sliding into fascist dictatorship as evidenced by the James Hodgkinson terrorist attack on the GOP Conressional baseball team. And in New York sand other cities liberals are running Julius Caesar as a vehicle for depicting-- and advocating--the assassination of the US President.
    So I suppose you were "alarmed" when Gabby Giffords was shot and when Skakespeare in the Park did the same thing with Obama...

    I think the term "snowflake" got assigned to the wrong team..but I can get you some smelling salts in case you faint...

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    You have highly placed democrats including Hillary urging resistance . http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...stence-n725436 Nonspecifically killing Republicans or course, nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Sanders Urges revolution. http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...our-revolution. I guess Hodgkinson heard him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    You have highly placed democrats including Hillary urging resistance . http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...stence-n725436 Nonspecifically killing Republicans or course, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

    Tee Hee...you should wait for the Faux release and link us when they twist it to make it sound even sorta like what you said....

    In the meantime....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    You have highly placed democrats including Hillary urging resistance . http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...stence-n725436 Nonspecifically killing Republicans or course, nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Sanders Urges revolution. http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...our-revolution. I guess Hodgkinson heard him.
    Lest ye forget:

    "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment,” Trump said during a rally in North Carolina on Tuesday.

    "By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...omment-n626601
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    ^^^ Pumpkin is trying to create a parallel...shhhh...let's pretend we don't know....the "base" needs something to cling on to...

    He gets paid by the post probably...and he is throwing shit at the wall to see what works...or what sticks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    This is hilarious and embarrassing (video below)
    how can America come to this ?

    This is the new definition of what a circle jerk is now. Get a group of like minded individuals and stimulate the Leader's ego.


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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    This is the new definition of what a circle jerk is now. Get a group of like minded individuals and stimulate the Leader's ego.
    If China did this to its leader,
    the US would laugh and criticize for ever too ...


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    What a shameful waste of pixels.

    [Obama] lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!

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    More votes equals a loss...revolution!

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    I guess Hodgkinson heard him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    What a shameful waste of pixels.
    Short memory or "I never said that"?

    Both, I think.
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    So today the White House has issued an edict that the press briefings can no longer be recorded.

    This is a regime intent on stifling the free press in favour of direct propaganda....where the President and his people are protecting themselves from having to give answers to questions.

    Shameful.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/journal...source=copyurl

    The only good thing that I can offer is that HarperCo. tried to pull similar shit in Canada.....and it ended up helping to bring the Conservatives down because people resented the secretive and arrogant way that the government tried to isolate itself from accountability by the press.

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    Why doesn't he just call a press conference (allowing cameras, of course), and set fire to the Constitution with a solid gold cigarette lighter?
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    Meanwhile, the data collected via online analytics by the Republican party for 198 million Americans and handled by their data analyst have been stored on an insecure cloud server for probably months, posing a risk for all identified users from online identity theft to possible blackmail for the views and possible political leanings they had in private by shared online.

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    Researcher Chris Vickery has discovered nearly 200 million voter records in an unsecured Amazon S3 bucket maintained by Deep Root Analytics (DRA)...
    Each record contains the voter's first and last name, home and mailing address, date of birth, phone number, party affiliation, ethnicity, voter registration data, and a flag should the person appear on the federal Do-Not-Call registry. However, the voter file also includes fields for modeled ethnicity and modeled religion, suggesting the usage of big data to predict answers when voters didn't offer such details directly,


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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    So today the White House has issued an edict that the press briefings can no longer be recorded.

    This is a regime intent on stifling the free press in favour of direct propaganda....where the President and his people are protecting themselves from having to give answers to questions.

    Shameful.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/journal...source=copyurl

    The only good thing that I can offer is that HarperCo. tried to pull similar shit in Canada.....and it ended up helping to bring the Conservatives down because people resented the secretive and arrogant way that the government tried to isolate itself from accountability by the press.
    Republicans and his voter base have for decades complained about the bias/bigotry of the liberal/democrat press and that is why Fox News became the leading cable news channel. His supporters will support his fight back against the democrat controlled press. No one is stifling the press. They are free to print whatever they wish and they demonize him relentlessly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Republicans and his voter base have for decades complained about the bias/bigotry of the liberal/democrat press and that is why Fox News became the leading cable news channel. His supporters will support his fight back against the democrat controlled press. No one is stifling the press. They are free to print whatever they wish and they demonize him relentlessly.
    Trump and his supporters have turned out to be the biggest, whiniest snowflakes of them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    Trump and his supporters have turned out to be the biggest, whiniest snowflakes of them all.
    They've been whining since Obama won back in 2008.


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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    (From linked article)
    Each record contains … a flag should the person appear on the federal Do-Not-Call registry.
    I wonder why they are interested in the Do-Not-Call registry.

    The National Do Not Call Registry does not limit calls by political organizations, charities, or telephone surveyors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Republicans and his voter base have for decades complained about the bias/bigotry of the liberal/democrat press
    So, the edict bans only "liberal/democrat press"? The right-wing press is still able to go so they can pump out more lies without anyone being able to contradict them?
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    CNN's top reporter, Jim Acosta, blasts both Spicer and the White House stonewalling: http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...ng_white_house

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    If the press were more trusted someone could make a big story by boldly recording anyway -- with someone else surreptitiously recording the result.

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    But it's their constitutional right to scrap the first amendment when it's convenient for them, isn't it? (How do you spell being 'facetious'?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeshadow View Post
    No, voter fraud should scare eveyone. Democrats always claim there is no voter fraud so they should not object to a thorough investigation.

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    It's good that at least two states have seen through the smoke and mirrors and pulled out of the "Crosscheck" system. Anyone here who lives in a state which hasn't done so, write your governor or whoever and urge them to follow Oregon and Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    No, voter fraud should scare eveyone. Democrats always claim there is no voter fraud so they should not object to a thorough investigation.
    So should foreign enemies sabotaging American elections and possibly American candidates or those on their staff colluding with those foreign enemies scare everyone. So republicans should not object to a thorough investigation either.

    But you don't seem very concerned about that.



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    So should foreign enemies sabotaging American elections and possibly American candidates or those on their staff colluding with those foreign enemies scare everyone. So republicans should not object to a thorough investigation either.

    But you don't seem very concerned about that.
    Is am concerned that Obama knew about Russian meddling and did nothing.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/u...n-hacking.html
    Now the democrats want to use the claim to reverse the election. That is collusion.

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    ^ Didn't I read in here somewhere a few months ago that the only voter fraud was perpetrated by the Republicans? Does anyone else remember that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Is am concerned that Obama knew about Russian meddling and did nothing.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/u...n-hacking.html
    Now the democrats want to use the claim to reverse the election. That is collusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Didn't I read in here somewhere a few months ago that the only voter fraud was perpetrated by the Republicans? Does anyone else remember that?
    If you look into the actual cases that occurred, a surprising number of them are Trump supporters who voted twice and then claimed that it was a response to Trump's claims about the election being stolen.
    “You can’t con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don’t deliver the goods, people will catch on.”


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    There are many reports of voter fraud, but not matter how much the democrats will brush it aside as insignificant. Here is one example. https://apnews.com/6b71a926cb624a209851b41ac616b184

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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    There are many reports of voter fraud, but not matter how much the democrats will brush it aside as insignificant. Here is one example. https://apnews.com/6b71a926cb624a209851b41ac616b184
    You didn't actually read your own link. Did you?
    They were charged, as they should be, with submitting falsified applications not with voter fraud.

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    Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said State Police found no evidence of voter fraud or voter suppression and that the charges against the workers arose from “a very bad, ill-advised business practice” of setting canvassers what appears to be a daily quota.
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    Curry said it’s unclear how many problematic applications were submitted, but that it was “a relatively small number.”



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    Quote Originally Posted by cityboy-stl View Post
    You didn't actually read your own link. Did you?
    He never does, and then makes up more lies and fake news when he gets caught.
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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    There are many reports of voter fraud, but not matter how much the democrats will brush it aside as insignificant. Here is one example. https://apnews.com/6b71a926cb624a209851b41ac616b184
    Largely because statistically speaking they are insignificant.
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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by cityboy-stl View Post
    You didn't actually read your own link. Did you?
    They were charged, as they should be, with submitting falsified applications not with voter fraud.

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    It's a major form of entertainment here -- Ben quotes a source that contradicts his point.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Alarming slide into a fascist dictatorship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    This is a common failing of many so-called libertarians: they think that as long as the loss of liberty isn't from government, it's okay. They fail to recognize that ANY concentration of power, government or economic or religious, in human hands is a threat to liberty (and they love to ignore the fact that Thomas Jefferson considered giant corporations to be a corruption and a danger to liberty).
    If Jefferson is your mentor for economics, how many slaves do you own? He was against corporations, but owned 200 slaves and was near bankruptcy most of his life.

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