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    Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    With the price of oil plumetting and mid-east oil producers fearful of losing market share if they cut production, bankers are getting ready to raise interest rates to keep jobs from being created. Higher borrowing costs for business and consumers will result in less need to give pay raises and expand employment.

    Now that consumers have more leverage with lower gasoline prices, banks are likely to hook their rates onto increased spending so that employers will even have even less incentive to employ more people.

    Despite the economy being weak for employees, its been good for businesses.

    When businesses look to hire workers, they may also be forced to give pay raises in a slightly more competitive job market. This and cities and states raising their minimum wages will not negatively impact corporate profits of companies like Wal-Mart, but the banks will want to be ready to turn up the heat on consumers borrowing at the same time.

    Steady inflation is important for Americas central bank as it increases profits from borrowing and weeds out less productive aspects of the economy by forcing those businesses to close, and forcing layoffs.

    Low interest rates and banks have not been the strength behind Americas slow recovery from a depression.

    At the time when cheap borrowing would undoubtedly help the economy, banks are out to profit from Americas recovery and recessions and make sure their cycle is predictable enough to win no matter how poorly the American worker is doing.

    Janet Yellen, the chief banker of Americas central bank, says that an improving job market will help raise inflation. What she means is that the banks will soon be able to take advantage of slow growth in 2015 and have an excuse ready to do so.

    Wages did rise in both the U.S. and the U.K. during the quarter, but in the U.S. productivity rose more rapidly. That means that across the economy as a whole, the labor cost of producing a unit of gross domestic product fell. In the U.K., productivity rose almost as fast as wages.
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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Meanwhile, the interest rate on a long-tern CD account probably won't rise to meet 1%, and a $10,000 interest-bearing savings account will only pay pennies of interest, as usual. We'll see.
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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    From those wonderful people who brought you the housing bust and the international financial depressing recession. As Americans, we are dedicated to a Free-Market Economy. Laissez-faire Capitalism, except when the banks' unsustainable schemes backfire. Then because we allowed them to become "Too Big to Fail" the taxpayers whom they victimized have to bail them out. Oh, and don't forget, they continued to get 7-figure bonuses in those years.

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    ^ 7-figure bonuses *ONLY* in the cases they didn't get 8-figure bonuses instead.
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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Sorry but the OP is overly sensationalized nonsense. Interest rates were never going to remain at near zero indefinitely.

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Sorry but the OP is overly sensationalized nonsense. Interest rates were never going to remain at near zero indefinitely.
    You never agree with my philosopy why would you change my mind with more establishment spin? Its like some are trapped in that process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    You never agree with my philosopy why would you change my mind with more establishment spin? Its like some are trapped in that process.
    Sorry but you are just out of touch with basic economic reality. Advocating for permanent zero interest rates is an untenable position.

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    This reminds me of an idea I heard a while ago: tie the rate banks pay on savings to the prime, at, say, a 4-to-1 ratio, so if the prime is 4%, interest on savings would have to be at least 1%. "Savings" would mean any account that is just cash. For long-term savings, e.g. CDs, make it a 3-to-1 minimum.


    Then institute a 0.01% tax on all electronic transactions over $10k, the revenue to go directly against the debt, starting with the highest-interest foreign debts.


    Oh, yeah -- and mandate a "We Screwed You" insurance fund banks would have to pay into, that would when the banks screw us all again pay out to bank customers put in financial danger because of bank shenanigans, e.g. for the mortgage crisis, it would pay from one to six months on a mortgage, including up to three months of payments already missed or incomplete.
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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Sorry but you are just out of touch with basic economic reality. Advocating for permanent zero interest rates is an untenable position.
    Your out of touch with the common person. Its because of people like you, establishment apologists, that America is stuck in reverse. Stop trolling my threads.


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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Your out of touch with the common person. Its because of people like you, establishment apologists, that America is stuck in reverse. Stop trolling my threads.
    "Establishment apologist"? Wow.

    He has a point -- you really have no grasp of economics. That said, I think you have a point: bankers know as well as economists that a "tighter" economy leads to higher interest rates, but I think they "pad" them, to skim off more than the economy justifies. And they can get away with it because so many people in D.C. are looking forward to working for them eventually, and they want to be able to get in on the sugar, too. Of course switching from the hill to banking or something jumps their incomes by a thousand percent or so, but like almost all wealthy folks, greed just feeds greed.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    All this is nonsense. The Federal Reserve leads the way on interest rates. It and the banks have kept rates low since 2007 to stimulate growth. This year sometime the Fed will probably begin to raise to a more normal rate then banks will follow

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Sorry but you are just out of touch with basic economic reality. Advocating for permanent zero interest rates is an untenable position.
    I'm seconding this.

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    Apologize for the status quo of falling wages and continued assaults on American workers, liberties and continue to collaborate those who want to inceasingly commoditize humanity. Sick.

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-taylor-E View Post
    I'm seconding this.
    Never advocated zero interest rates, advocated ending bankers and Romneyites sociopathic grasp on fundamental principles of social liberty. Slave traders.

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Your out of touch with the common person. Its because of people like you, establishment apologists, that America is stuck in reverse. Stop trolling my threads.
    I'm not trolling by pointing out your obvious lack of knowledge on why interest rates have to fluctuate to maintain stability.

    This is a 30 minute video that explains it VERY well, I'd highly recommend it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    I'm not trolling by pointing out your obvious lack of knowledge on why interest rates have to fluctuate to maintain stability.
    So you admit capitalism is a problem?


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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    So you admit capitalism is a problem?
    No economic system is perfect and each has its problems. There are plenty of problems with capitalism, but in the history of the world it has worked more than most other economic systems, and in the history of the USA it has provided our populace with a standard of living far above most of the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    This reminds me of an idea I heard a while ago: tie the rate banks pay on savings to the prime, at, say, a 4-to-1 ratio, so if the prime is 4%, interest on savings would have to be at least 1%. "Savings" would mean any account that is just cash. For long-term savings, e.g. CDs, make it a 3-to-1 minimum.
    Nooooo. No no no no no. That amounts to government fixing the price of financial services. Economic distortion. Banks should be able to charge/offer what the market will bear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Then institute a 0.01% tax on all electronic transactions over $10k, the revenue to go directly against the debt, starting with the highest-interest foreign debts.


    Oh, yeah -- and mandate a "We Screwed You" insurance fund banks would have to pay into, that would when the banks screw us all again pay out to bank customers put in financial danger because of bank shenanigans, e.g. for the mortgage crisis, it would pay from one to six months on a mortgage, including up to three months of payments already missed or incomplete.
    Deposits are often backed by governments, but when it is done properly, the government doing the backing actually charges the bank an insurance premium. As long as that is set correctly, nobody should have to bail out anybody.

    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Sorry but the OP is overly sensationalized nonsense. Interest rates were never going to remain at near zero indefinitely.
    Yup.
    Quote Originally Posted by hotatlboi View Post
    Sorry but you are just out of touch with basic economic reality. Advocating for permanent zero interest rates is an untenable position.
    Yup.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-taylor-E View Post
    I'm seconding this.
    Yup.
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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    The commiditzaton of humans has increased under capitalism not decreased. To argue its better than other systems is to admit it's the most efficient means to extort labor and the wealth gap bears that out magnificently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    The commiditzaton of humans has increased under capitalism not decreased. To argue its better than other systems is to admit it's the most efficient means to extort labor and the wealth gap bears that out magnificently.
    Nonsense. No other economic system approaches the benefit to workers and society as a whole which result from capitalism/free enterprise. Labor is one of the least valuable commodities on earth. Indeed the population of the earth is excessive and becoming more so each day. NOTWITHSTANDING, labor in capitalist countries are rewarded better than any system ever devised'

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    The commiditzaton of humans has increased under capitalism not decreased. To argue its better than other systems is to admit it's the most efficient means to extort labor and the wealth gap bears that out magnificently.
    Capitalism isn't the most efficient system, free enterprise is. Capitalism doesn't value free enterprise, it values stifling one's competition through whatever means work, including buying government that will protect you and favor you. Capitalists only want their competitors to have to face open market forces, not themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Capitalism isn't the most efficient system, free enterprise is. Capitalism doesn't value free enterprise, it values stifling one's competition through whatever means work, including buying government that will protect you and favor you. Capitalists only want their competitors to have to face open market forces, not themselves.
    Oh excuse me. I guess im not allowed to post economic information here unless I have a PHD in economics? My bad!


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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Oh excuse me. I guess im not allowed to post economic information here unless I have a PHD in economics? My bad!
    Just clarifying, since we have someone here who wants us all to worship capitalism.

    BTW, that's more like econ 101.


    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Bankers ready and waiting to pull the trigger on multiple interest rate hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Capitalism isn't the most efficient system, free enterprise is. Capitalism doesn't value free enterprise, it values stifling one's competition through whatever means work, including buying government that will protect you and favor you. Capitalists only want their competitors to have to face open market forces, not themselves.
    Free enterprise is closely related to capitalism.

    Keep in mind that in a purely free market economy (laissez faire) the rich would be getting even richer.

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