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    Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    Hey. I’m not a very religious person, but I’ve always believed in God and Jesus. Lately, I’m having problems to reconcile my beliefs and my sexual orientation.

    Since I was a little kid, I always imagined being with a beautiful woman and forming a family with children. I imagined being a father and educating my children with joy (I still do it when I see a child). But when I started to realize I was gay, I repudiated it because I didn’t want to be so. I knew it would bring complications in the future and I wanted to change.

    So I went like that for a few years in my teens. I even researched about psychological theories of why people are gay and about supposed transformation therapies to stop being homosexual. However, I noticed that most people who had participated of these therapies had developed a great sense of frustration in their lives and that the range of suicides of these patients was very high. Therefore, over time I came to accept the fact that I was born like this and it was not my fault. I was just created this way. And without actually accepting 100% at least at my 20’s I was living with the supposed certainty that being was gay was not wrong.

    However, during this last two years many "coincidences" and important situations in my life have occurred that have made my faith in God to grow quite. Especially in the last three months, I have lived some serious events that could directly relate to my sexual orientation and could be interpreted as God is calling my attention.

    I know many of you are atheists or those who believe in God are assured that if you're gay is because He made you like this. But I cannot just ignore the fact of the evil concept that The Bible has about gay people, and I need to know how to reconcile my beliefs with what I am.

    I hope you can give some advice, especially from the Christian point of view (if there are some around here) and I have lot of uncertainty.

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    I know you are supposed to be polite and respect other people's religious beliefs, so I will. I am an atheist, and I will mention that religion is the cause for so much pain in our community. Virtually the only cause. But how you chose to follow God is your choice. You can find an accepting, loving church. Why not do that? Don't pick a church that thinks other denominations are evil. I'm offended that you said the Bible sees homosexuality as evil. There is nothing wrong with me. You know nothing is wrong with you and that you were born this way. Why let people put you down? That is a real industry in this world: convincing people something is wrong with them, and asking for money at the same time.

    Please don't marry a woman and then fool around behind her back with a man, whatever you do. That would be "evil."

    Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is bullshit. The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has condemned it as worthless bullshit. The APA follows science and knows you are normal and not sick or weird. It is just another tool of people who follow the wrong denomination and want money to judge others. Half of them are gay themselves and self-haters. You can see that.

    You know who is happy? Confident people who are true to themselves and don't let fears or other people hold them back, but don't harm others to make themselves feel better. Judging others and making money makes them feel better.

    Yes, you have, we all have, been dealt a harder hand in some ways. But not so much any more. It's not an excuse anymore. There is no reason today in Western countries to stop yourself from living a happy, fulfilled life. Most of us are fun, creative and compassionate, able to love and be loved more than hateful pricks.

    Do whatever makes YOU happy. You only get one shot. Do you want a life of regret because you tried to please everyone else FIRST. Treat yourself to the life you want and then you can treat the people who stayed with you and those you are going to meet with the respect they deserve. You have to respect yourself first.
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    Religion can fuck up with people´s minds. Everyone looks at Islam as the biggest evil of all evils, but a look back at Christianity shows you a similar storyline.

    If you choose to believe in whatever feels right for you, go on, but like Jimbill said, do what makes you happy, withouth making others suffer (like a possible future wife). I strongly recommend therapy, it works especially when people find themselves in this kind of situations. Keep in mind that the Bible was written by people, translated and edited a million times and it represents a simple time when the earth was supposedly flat. Take the good from it (even if you don´t really need the bible for that, I mean it´s pretty simple: don´t kill, don´t steal etc) and don´t let a few words on a page play with your mind.

    I think that when you´ll meet a man who you love and loves you back, things will get easier and you´ll understand that anything standing against love between 2 persons is pretty fucking mean for a such called religion of peace. But before that you need to sort some things out, that´s why I recommend therapy. I don´t know if you can join a gay (gay&christian?) group, to find people who were once in your shoes so they can show you how to deal with all you´re going through.
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    Religion is the opiate of the masses! If there was a God (and I do not think so) he made me this way so fuck the church's synagogues and mosques. I live for the day there three books are used as toilet paper think of the trees we will save!
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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    If you really want to follow the Bible, then learn to read ancient greek, Egyptian coptic, ancient Hebrew and aramaic because without them you're just being told what the words mean by people with an agenda. the social rules and customs of hellenised Jews living in the North African and Levantine areas of the Roman Empire two thousand years ago have very little to do with life today.

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    To most of the Religious Right they cheery pick the Bible as being gay is the only sin. There are plenty of other sins to go around.

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    I'm the same way as you, my Christian religion is very important with me, and the gay conflicts with it. I've done stuff with a guy, but I didn't really enjoy or want to go near his dick (like I literally tried, but it just really repulsed me, not because I thought it was bad, since I was fine with him doing anything to me, but it just grossed me out, can't explain it), and it was good. Done stuff with a woman, and it was good, I think straight sex would be better than gay sex. Imagine myself with a woman married with children, never a guy, just seems odd. But in real life, I never randomly get attracted to woman like I do guys, so it's all really confusing.

    I don't want to possibly ignore something that the Bible says, but I also want to make sure that I don't not-allow myself to be gay because of something that God possibly doesn't even care about, and that was only included to oppress people. Why didn't Jesus say it specifically?

    Gah.

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    You can easily be Christian and gay. In fact, there are many gay-friendly Christian denominations. Look into the Episcopal church, for example. The UU (Unitarian Universalist) church is even more gay-friendly and liberal. Methodists, too. These Christian churches even allow ministers to be married, have children, and be gay.

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    It depends on what kind of Christian you are. If you keep it simple and 'do unto others etc' then why not.

    If you're all drama queen, like, 'gays will burn in hell' and then go widestance in some bog somewhere, then no .

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    Re: Being Christian and gay at the same time?

    Quote Originally Posted by relejandro12 View Post
    Hey. I’m not a very religious person, but I’ve always believed in God and Jesus. Lately, I’m having problems to reconcile my beliefs and my sexual orientation.

    Since I was a little kid, I always imagined being with a beautiful woman and forming a family with children. I imagined being a father and educating my children with joy (I still do it when I see a child). But when I started to realize I was gay, I repudiated it because I didn’t want to be so. I knew it would bring complications in the future and I wanted to change.

    So I went like that for a few years in my teens. I even researched about psychological theories of why people are gay and about supposed transformation therapies to stop being homosexual. However, I noticed that most people who had participated of these therapies had developed a great sense of frustration in their lives and that the range of suicides of these patients was very high. Therefore, over time I came to accept the fact that I was born like this and it was not my fault. I was just created this way. And without actually accepting 100% at least at my 20’s I was living with the supposed certainty that being was gay was not wrong.

    However, during this last two years many "coincidences" and important situations in my life have occurred that have made my faith in God to grow quite. Especially in the last three months, I have lived some serious events that could directly relate to my sexual orientation and could be interpreted as God is calling my attention.

    I know many of you are atheists or those who believe in God are assured that if you're gay is because He made you like this. But I cannot just ignore the fact of the evil concept that The Bible has about gay people, and I need to know how to reconcile my beliefs with what I am.

    I hope you can give some advice, especially from the Christian point of view (if there are some around here) and I have lot of uncertainty.
    It is true that Christianity promotes homophobia as well as all sorts of evil ideas. However not all religions do. There are many Pagan religions that are pro Gay. If you want to believe in a God then go there. Besides they are most likely communicating to you if it is beneficial as Yahweh the Canaanite war god is pretty malevolent he is pretty much the Hebrew/Canaanite equivalent of the Greek Ares.

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