JustUsBoys.com gay porn forum

logo

remove these banner ads by becoming a JUB Supporter.

Results 1 to 32 of 32
  1. #1
    veni, vidi, reliqui
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    33,552

    Code of Conduct

    Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    The following are some of the companies who were affected by the Hobby Lobby decision.

    Interestingly...Eden foods is also feeling some backlash from consumers. It is like they didn't quite get who their demographic is...

    1. Tyndale House

    2. Freshway Foods

    3. Johnson Welded Products

    4. Willis & Willis PC

    5. Trijicon, Inc.

    6. Barron Industries

    7. Midwest Fastener Corp

    8. Electrolock Inc.

    9. Zumbiel Packaging

    10. Encompass Develop, Design & Construct, LLC.

    11. Holland Chevrolet

    12. Autocam Corporation

    13. Dominos Farms

    14. Mersino Management

    15. Eden Foods Incorporated

    16. MK Chambers Company

    17. M&N Plastics

    18. Mersino Dewatering, INC

    19. Korte & Luitjohan Contractors, Inc.,

    20. Truine Health Group

    21. Grote Industries

    22. Tonn and Black Construction

    23. Lindsay, Rappaport and Postel LLC

    24. Hart Electric LLC,

    25. Ozinga Brothers

    26. O’Brien Industrial Holding

    27. American Pulverizer Company

    28. Annex Medical Inc

    29. Sioux Chief MFG. Co, Inc.

    30. O’Brien Industrial Holding

    31. Bick Holdings Inc.

    32. SMA LLC

    33. Medford

    34. Feltl and Co.

    35. Randy Reed Automotive

    36. Doboszenski & Sons, Inc

    37. Hastings Automotive

    38. Stinson Electric

    39. Hercules Industries, Inc. is

    40. Continuum Health Partnership & Conessione

    41. Cherry Creek Mortgage Co.

    42. Beckwith Electric Co.

    43. Geneva College*

    44. Weingartz Supply Company*

    45. Sharpe Holdings Inc.*

    46. Catholic Benefits Association*


    Non Profits include, not surprisingly....a lot of conservative religious organizations:



    47. Belmont Abbey Coll.

    48. Wheaton College (Illinois)

    49. Roman Catholic Archbishop of Washington

    50. Priests for Life (New York)

    51. Roman Catholic Archdiocese of NY

    52. Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, et al.

    53. Louisiana College

    54. Roman Catholic Diocese of Fort Worth (Texas)

    55. Roman Catholic Diocese of Biloxi (Mississippi)

    56. East Texas Baptist University

    57. Catholic Diocese of Beaumont (Texas)

    58. Michigan Catholic Conference

    59. Right to Life of Michigan

    60. Catholic Diocese of Nashville (Texas)

    61. Ave Maria Foundation (Michigan)


    62. Union University (Tennessee)

    63. University of Notre Dame (Indiana)

    64. Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend (Indiana)

    65. Grace Schools (Indiana)

    66. Archdiocese of St. Louis (Missouri)

    67. The School of the Ozarks (Missouri)

    68. Dordt College (Iowa)

    69. Colorado Christian

    70. Southern Nazarene (Oklahoma)

    71. Little Sisters of the Poor (Colorado)

    72. Reaching Souls International, (Oklahoma)

    73. Fellowship of Catholic University Students (Colorado)

    74. Diocese of Cheyenne (Wyoming)

    75. Eternal World Television Network (Alabama)

    76. Ave Maria University (Florida)

    77. Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Atlanta (Georgia)

    78. Perisco (Diocese of Erie)

    79. Zubik (Diocese of Pittsburgh)

    80. Brandt (Diocese of Greensburg),

    81. Dr. James Dobson (“Family Talk” radio show and ministry)

    82. Ave Maria School of Law (Florida)

    http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/0...-lobby-ruling/

    Expect an avalanche of companies to be added to this list.....
    Last edited by rareboy; July 8th, 2014 at 03:38 AM.

  2. #2
    auribus teneo lupum Stardreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Over the Hedge and Under the Hill
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Married
    Posts
    3,255

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    opt-out of Obamacare’s contraception mandate and screw over women.
    That rather depends on how the government reacts to the court's ruling, the ruling did not overthrow the contraception mandate it only said the government has to provide an alternative means of applying it if possible. So if HHS follows through with the a workable alternative then no one is screwed over, or HHS could back off their own mandate.
    Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

  3. #3

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    What an incredibly stupid decision. The conservatives on the Supreme Court are out of control. Conservatives love to complain about liberal judges legislating from the bench. The irony is that the current conservatives on the Supreme Court are the worst example of legislating from the bench in our lifetime. They don't apply the law or the constitution. They decide the outcome they want and work back from there, regardless of whether there is support for the outcome in the statutes or the constitution.

  4. #4
    Ruminating
    sixthson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    11,392
    Blog Entries
    15

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

  5. #5
    JUB Addict
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    2,123

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    I gave up on the supreme court in 2000 when judges-- appointed by the daddy, in a state run by his brother (does it sound like a 3rd world country, yet?) appointed the greatest, most destructive moron to the presidency ---giving us the horror of his 8 years, where everything that could go wrong ---went wrong.

  6. #6
    JUB Addict Ninja108's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    63,067

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    I gave up on the supreme court in 2000 when judges-- appointed by the daddy, in a state run by his brother (does it sound like a 3rd world country, yet?) appointed the greatest, most destructive moron to the presidency ---giving us the horror of his 8 years, where everything that could go wrong ---went wrong.
    Indeed... and we are stuck with his legacy not only in Iraq but on the Supreme Court as well.

  7. #7
    JUB Addict T-Rexx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    4,785

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    What an incredibly stupid decision. The conservatives on the Supreme Court are out of control. Conservatives love to complain about liberal judges legislating from the bench. The irony is that the current conservatives on the Supreme Court are the worst example of legislating from the bench in our lifetime. They don't apply the law or the constitution. They decide the outcome they want and work back from there, regardless of whether there is support for the outcome in the statutes or the constitution.
    QFT

    There are rumors this morning that Hobby Lobby may add HIV therapy to the drugs to which it objects paying for.

    Truvada is sometimes used as prophylaxis against HIV infection in healthy gay men at high risk for infection ("pre-exposure prophylaxis"). It therefore "encourages" behavior to which Hobby Lobby's owners have profound religious objections.

    The precedent set by the Hobby Lobby decision is that the religious rights of rich people outweigh the rights of employees. This court is very much out of control, and these inexplicably illogical decisions are going to take another hundred years to fix.

  8. #8
    JUB Addict Ninja108's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    63,067

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    QFT

    There are rumors this morning that Hobby Lobby may add HIV therapy to the drugs to which it objects paying for.

    Truvada is sometimes used as prophylaxis against HIV infection in healthy gay men at high risk for infection ("pre-exposure prophylaxis"). It therefore "encourages" behavior to which Hobby Lobby's owners have profound religious objections.

    The precedent set by the Hobby Lobby decision is that the religious rights of rich people outweigh the rights of employees. This court is very much out of control, and these inexplicably illogical decisions are going to take another hundred years to fix.
    We knew that was coming. If this doesn't prove how important this year and 2016 are election wise, nothing will.

  9. #9
    JUB Addict
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    2,123

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Indeed... and we are stuck with his legacy not only in Iraq but on the Supreme Court as well.
    Exactly Ninja.

  10. #10
    veni, vidi, reliqui
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    33,552

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    You mean like they are required to pay for Viagra?

  11. #11
    JUB Addict vulgar_newcomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    St. Petersburg
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    2,738

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    You mean like they are required to pay for Viagra?
    I understand where you coming from, however its not correct and is often cited in these sort of topics. Viagra is a medication used for treatment of a physical medical condition not as a means of birth control. It is often not covered by private health insurance nor mandated such as the birth control treatments in the case here. In fact Viagra and the other medications are barred from being included in Medicare or Medicaid drug plans. Some of the private medicare advantage supplemental programs may provide it in their formulary at additional cost to the client, but again its voluntary.

    The confusion on this drug with female birth control is understandable however its weak and doesn't hold merit. If a drug was issued that worked with repairing or treating a physical medical treatment of a woman's body, helping sexual function it would be classed with what you are saying here with Viagra sort of drugs, its not the issue.

    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    Sixthson right on. I wonder about vasectomies in a similar thought. I have no clue. These were not mandated by federal law to be covered if they are not? I don't know.
    Though condoms are fairly easy to get free from most health Dept, AIDS service orgs, Planned Parenthood, bars, etc.

  12. #12
    JUB Addicts Orlandude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Orlando
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    4,557

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    It clearly benefits employers. The majority in the court decided that the religious beliefs of employers were more important than those of their employees. The majority in the court decided that it would be acceptable to negotiate away the health needs of some employees to appease religious extremists who oppose contraception. Even worse, the Hobby Lobby case focused on emergency contraception, but the justices expanded it to include all contraception and gave no legal reason that it could not be expanded to any religious objection to any benefit in the future.

  13. #13
    JUB Addicts Orlandude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Orlando
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    4,557

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Still, it seems hypocritical to pay for a drug (viagra)that supports conception and reject drugs that allegedly stop conception. By the way, there is no proof whatsoever that the banned contraceptives caused abortions. None. Conservative judges did not consider facts, only ideology. That makes their decision wrong...and troubling. I agree with the Ginsberg dissent. This will open up a can of worms.

  14. #14
    auribus teneo lupum Stardreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Over the Hedge and Under the Hill
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Married
    Posts
    3,255

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    They haven't even hammered out if the contraceptive coverage will or will not be denied by this ruling, bringing up more and more hypotheticals at this point is just stirring the pot. The actual ACA law doesn't even direct this coverage, it just says that the HHS will determine what is essential preventative care. Since this is essentially an administrative determination any of this coverage could be swept away with the stroke of a pen by the next administration.
    Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

  15. #15

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    I do not think any insurance pays for Viagra. Certainly most does not. However, Viagra is to correct a physical disability. Contraception prevents a perfectly healthy bodily function, not an illness or disability.

  16. #16
    JUB Addict luckynumbah7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    philadelphia
    Gender
    Transexual Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    1,193

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    because a condom is not considered medication. Y'might as well ask why they also don't cover female condoms (and yes, they exist, though everything I know about them more than suggests they're unweildy and uncomfortable and you can't find them anywhere, you have to order 'em online.

    There's also that bc tends to be used as medication as well as a method of birth control and usually not just used for bc.
    If I blow your mind, do you promise not to think in my mouth? - Unknown

  17. #17
    JUB Addict luckynumbah7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    philadelphia
    Gender
    Transexual Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    1,193

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    You mean like they are required to pay for Viagra?
    ....yeah, and that's a fucking kick in the teeth right there. Not that sexuality isn't important for the human minds' well being, but there's a damn sight of difference between birth control and viagra.
    If I blow your mind, do you promise not to think in my mouth? - Unknown

  18. #18
    Virtus in medio stat JUB Admin opinterph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Jawja
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    21,618
    Blog Entries
    14

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    Specific coverage is ultimately a consequence of the legislation passed by Congress and the associated rules implemented by the Department of Health and Human Services.


    The insurers' letter from September says they interpreted the rule to include only female-based contraception and that the requirement to waive co-payments “does not apply to methods and procedures intended for males.”

    Five Questions About The Health Law’s Mandate To Cover Birth Control (Kaiser Health News; February 2012)

  19. #19
    JUB Addict luckynumbah7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    philadelphia
    Gender
    Transexual Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    1,193

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I do not think any insurance pays for Viagra. Certainly most does not. However, Viagra is to correct a physical disability. Contraception prevents a perfectly healthy bodily function, not an illness or disability.
    ....you'd be wrong. On all three accounts. Viagra is explicitely included in most insurance plans I know of, viagra is used to make erections last longer once you have them, not to - give - you an erection, and birth control is used for a multitude of illnesses and disabilities, not just to decrease the chance of pregnancy.
    If I blow your mind, do you promise not to think in my mouth? - Unknown

  20. #20

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Medicare does not cover Viagra or similar drugs, and Medicare supplemental policies generally only pay the unpaid portion of the conditions covered by Medicare.

  21. #21
    JUB Addict luckynumbah7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    philadelphia
    Gender
    Transexual Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    1,193

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    I said insurance in general, not medicare specifically. There's also a, call it a personal suspicion, that it'll be changed and covered again re; medicare. It used to be, and not all that long ago at that.
    Last edited by luckynumbah7; July 8th, 2014 at 07:53 PM.
    If I blow your mind, do you promise not to think in my mouth? - Unknown

  22. #22
    still gluten free chrisrobin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    8,252

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Most insurance doesn't cover ED meds. However, Cialis has been found to be successful in treating BPH (enlarged prostate). I don't know if insurance companies would make any exceptions or not.

    By the way, Hobby Lobby sucks.
    Last edited by chrisrobin; July 8th, 2014 at 08:59 PM.


  23. #23
    JUB Addict T-Rexx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    4,785

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I do not think any insurance pays for Viagra. Certainly most does not. However, Viagra is to correct a physical disability. Contraception prevents a perfectly healthy bodily function, not an illness or disability.
    Actually, Hobby Lobby covers Viagra.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5543916.html

    (It is well to remember that these religious types only object to therapies that benefit women. God is a misogynist.)
    Last edited by T-Rexx; July 8th, 2014 at 10:51 PM.

  24. #24
    JUB Addict vulgar_newcomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    St. Petersburg
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    2,738

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by luckynumbah7 View Post
    ....you'd be wrong. On all three accounts. Viagra is explicitely included in most insurance plans I know of, viagra is used to make erections last longer once you have them, not to - give - you an erection, and birth control is used for a multitude of illnesses and disabilities, not just to decrease the chance of pregnancy.

    You would be wrong. Right off the bat you are incorrect about how Viagra works. It's not the goal to make a erection last longer, in fact it can be taken at full dose and possibly no erection will occur. The drugs do not work to give you a boner automatically. You have to be sexually stimulated. If you are drunk or ate a bunch of cheeseburger you might not even get a semi with a full dose.
    As a example of a drug that can cause a automatic erection regardless of thought I will use Desryl/Trazadone. This is a anti-depressant. If you have a allergic reaction you will get a hard on that last for hours. Such as the warning of a hard on of 4 or more hours with Viagra. This is dangerous and not how Viagra works and doesn't work like that either!!!



    You don't know what many insurance plans. First off under Medicare and Medicaid these drugs are not covered for any reimbursement. I don't get why that is so hard to understand. These drugs simply are not covered in the USA under federal programs in general. They are not covered they are barred they are not mandated to be covered. They are not birth control treatments. The topic and court ruling was on the fact that the Gov was mandating what drugs must be covered under the law.
    Any company or private plan can offer its own formulary of drugs they will cover. This will depend on the plan. One drug may be covered and one drug may not. There are certain drugs that are now mandated and must be covered. A example currently would be all HIV drugs. Drugs such as Truvada are specialty drugs on tier 4, a lot of insurance wouldn't cover a tier 4 drug or make it extremely difficult to obtain even if covered but it is mandated to be covered therefore they must.

    There was a time when Viagra was covered in a limited dose through state Medicaid but that is extinct.

    In addition to what the federal government requires for drugs covered a private or supplemental plan for Medicare and Medicaid may be available. These supplemental plans could and do cover drugs like Viagra (not all of them) however there is a cost the customer pays for that plan once they look over the formulary and see if the drugs listed are ones they may use. This plan could change every year in what drugs it covers just like any private policy and the Gov has no control over what a private policy offers or doesn't for drugs not included as law. Here is the issue with hobby lobby they don't want to be ordered what to cover.

    I have had several plans that don't cover any of these drugs with major companies, as well as various types of other drugs for medical conditions and have had to switch plans during open season or try the medications offered on that plans formulary.

    By the way hobby lobby does cover volunteer vasectomy.

    Medicare and Medicaid does cover penis pumps. There is a topic. Generally if not in most cares no over the counter drugs or treatments are covered by any state or federal drug /medical backed plan. This would include condoms.

  25. #25
    JUB Addict Ninja108's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    63,067

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    Actually, Hobby Lobby covers Viagra.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5543916.html

    (It is well to remember that these religious types only object to therapies that benefit women. God is a misogynist.)
    My one friend put it best (and this describes Justice Kennedy to a t) in that there is one thing that grosses out many Republicans and other people more then gay sex.
    And that is women who dare to have sex that won't produce a kid.

  26. #26
    JUB Addict vulgar_newcomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    St. Petersburg
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    2,738

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    I'm no fan of Hobby Lobby or another in the series of bad rulings by the corrupt supreme court.
    ... Or the National review.

    Here is what they say is covered in Hobby Lobby private health plan. So wow you could get a rubber over the counter and fuck a guy in the ass they would pay for it!


    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...-deroy-murdock


    Male condoms
    Female condoms
    Diaphragms with spermicide
    Sponges with spermicide
    Cervical caps with spermicide
    Spermicide alone
    Birth-control pills with estrogen and progestin (“Combined Pill)
    Birth-control pills with progestin alone (“The Mini Pill)
    Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)
    Contraceptive patches
    Contraceptive rings
    Progestin injections
    Implantable rods
    Vasectomies
    Female sterilization surgeries
    Female sterilization implants
    Last edited by vulgar_newcomer; July 9th, 2014 at 08:58 AM.

  27. #27
    JUB Addict luckynumbah7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    philadelphia
    Gender
    Transexual Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    1,193

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    You would be wrong. Right off the bat you are incorrect about how Viagra works. It's not the goal to make a erection last longer, in fact it can be taken at full dose and possibly no erection will occur. The drugs do not work to give you a boner automatically. You have to be sexually stimulated. If you are drunk or ate a bunch of cheeseburger you might not even get a semi with a full dose.


    You don't know what many insurance plans. First off under Medicare and Medicaid these drugs are not covered for any reimbursement. I don't get why that is so hard to understand. These drugs simply are not covered in the USA under federal programs in general. They are not covered they are barred they are not mandated to be covered. They are not birth control treatments. The topic and court ruling was on the fact that the Gov was mandating what drugs must be covered under the law.
    Any company or private plan can offer its own formulary of drugs they will cover. This will depend on the plan. One drug may be covered and one drug may not.

    There was a time when Viagra was covered in a limited dose through state Medicaid but that is extinct.
    You're arguing against a strawman. I specifically typed that they don't give you an erection automatically so you're arguing against what, exactly? The goal of viagra is to make an erection stay an erection, that way you can actually use it instead of getting semi hard and deflating after fifteen minutes of foreplay that used to work but doesn't now.

    And you can drop your long post about medicare not covering it - I already said that. Medicare is not the only insurance - most people working aren't even qualified for it so it's a bit of a moot point with insurance and the everyday Joe/Jane.
    If I blow your mind, do you promise not to think in my mouth? - Unknown

  28. #28
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    10,752

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orlandude View Post
    Still, it seems hypocritical to pay for a drug (viagra)that supports conception and reject drugs that allegedly stop conception. By the way, there is no proof whatsoever that the banned contraceptives caused abortions. None. Conservative judges did not consider facts, only ideology. That makes their decision wrong...and troubling. I agree with the Ginsberg dissent. This will open up a can of worms.
    Keep in mind that the majority of all women on a birth control prescription are on it for another health reason besides preventing pregnancy--- it plays roles in hormonal regulation, fixes irregular or problematic periods, and other issues.

    Conservatives have long (and successfully) painted it in the public view as nothing but the free pass for women to be loose and slutty, but the medical reality of how and why it is used is far different.

    My sister has been sexually inactive for 3 or so years now (since she and her fiancee broke up) and is dependant on the pill for medical purposes. Health wise, it's not optional for her to stop taking them even though she isn't having sex. So that's why this (and any) argument raised against covering birth control by religious or conservative interests has never made any sense to me, and probably makes no sense to anyone in the medical field either. It would only make sense to people who think its exclusive or dominant function is to have casual sex.

  29. #29
    JUB Addict Ninja108's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Partnered
    Posts
    63,067

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    But that is exactly what they think xbuzzerx. That every woman who is on birth control is simply a slut that wants to have sex as often as possible.
    It sickens me, it truly does.

  30. #30
    still gluten free chrisrobin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    8,252

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    But that is exactly what they think xbuzzerx. That every woman who is on birth control is simply a slut that wants to have sex as often as possible.
    It sickens me, it truly does.
    That every woman who is on birth control is simply a slut that wants to have sex as often as possible.
    Therefore, every woman of child-bearing age (or older) who votes Republicon is insane.


  31. #31
    Bammer's Papa
    Kulindahr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    on the foggy, damp, redneck Oregon coast
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    103,544
    Blog Entries
    78

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I always wondered why if employers insurance is forced to cover birth control for women, why they aren't forced to pay for men's condoms?
    Find a good lawyer, and sue.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

  32. #32
    Bammer's Papa
    Kulindahr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    on the foggy, damp, redneck Oregon coast
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    103,544
    Blog Entries
    78

    Code of Conduct

    Re: Who Benefitted from Hobby Lobby?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Therefore, every woman of child-bearing age (or older) who votes Republicon is insane.
    No, just suffering from cognitive divide.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | About JustUsBoys.com | Site Map | RSS | Webmasters | Advertise | Link to JUB | Report A Bug on this Page

Visit our sister sites: Broke Straight Boys | CollegeDudes.com | CollegeBoyPhysicals.com | RocketTube
All models appearing on JustUsBoys.com were over 18 at the time of photography. The records for sexually explicit images required by U.S. 2257 are kept by the
individual producers of the images. The location of the records is available by clicking the Custodian of Records link at the bottom of each gallery page.
© 2012 JustUsBoys.com. The JustUsBoys.com name and logo are registered trademarks. Labeled with ICRA and RTA. Member of ASACP and The Free Speech Coalition.