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    Do you obey the speed limit?

    The last time I had a ticket was in 1972, going 10 mph over the posted limit. I made it a point to pay better attention to posted limits and follow them.

    This seems to piss folks off, I stay in the slow lane and still have people ride my tail and pass me only to cut in abruptly in front of me before speeding off. I pull up next to these speed demons at the next light, most only burn more fuel and gain no time.

    What are your thoughts? Should we speed to please others?

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    There is speeding and there is speeding.

    Drivers can be obnoxious and assholes, or merely disagree that the markings are relevant.

    Many times the limits are inconsistent or even ridiculous. I was on a straightaway, in a clearing with no obstructions roadside or curves a month ago, and was cited going over a 30 mph limit. It wasn't in a developed area. Crap like that is just a speed trap.

    There is a stretch a few miles from my home where the wealthy hacienda owners got the entire valley marked 25 mph. It is ludicrous. The road is practically a highway. It is a product of their wealth and influence, not road safety. If I had any confidence that the road markings were some absolute science and fair, I'd be more strict about observing them.

    Generally, I stay within 5 mph of the limits, but there are times when I intentionally ignore markings.

    Stop signs are a different matter. I don't argue with them.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I don't intentionally try to break speed limits but I'll often catch myself 10 or 20 mph over the limit in certain areas. My general reaction in those cases is "eh, whatever". Some of those "speed limits" are ridiculous and no one ever drives that slowly. There are times to go over and stay under the limits. I obey safety, not markings on certain signs.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I'm often 5-8 MPH over the limit. I'm fortunate enough that I get perhaps one speeding ticket for every 25,000 miles driven, and I think it's been even less than that in recent years. More surprisingly I've only had one "hidden camera" automated speeding ticket in all of these years.

    I definitely pay attention to stop signs, too - and, even more so, traffic signals.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I speed a lot but haven't been caught in ages. On the interstate I will go 79-80 since the limit is 75. usually not a problem. In town, I catch myself going 35 in a 25 at times.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Frankly, speed limits are arbitrary within a margin of 10 mph in terms of safety. There must be a method to the madness, but the bureaucrat whom sets the limits probably doesn't know all the elements that make a road safe or dangerous. Going 40 mph in a 30 mph zone can be safer than in a 40 mph zone depending on such elements as weather, turns, surface condition, and traffic.

    For example, there is a very straight stretch of boulevard leading to my neighborhood with a line of sight at least a mile with a 40 mph speed limit that can be safely traveled at 50 or higher if there is no traffic, but I would not go 30 on the 25 mph tertiary road that runs through my neighborhood. There are way too many children, parked cars, traffic, and turns. Thus, I usually go five under or slower on such roads. The difference of 10 mph in dangerous conditions can mean thousands of dollars in liabilities, the risk of injury or death, and even prison for the most reckless driving and serious accidents.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I go between the speed limit and 5mph over it. If any one has a problem with it, tough shit.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I have been getting worse as I grow older. I am at about 75-80 MPH on the freeway but in my defense...I am going with the flow of the traffic. I used to be one of the slow guys that people got mad at. I am not sure what changed but I started speeding a lot on the freeway maybe 10 years ago.

    What I hate...a three or two lane freeway with no cars in front of them and two or three cars creating a blockade by driving side by side for miles...

    Other than that..slow drivers don't bother me because I can just get in another lane and pass...
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I must admit to being one of those who keeps strictly to the speed limit.

    But I must also admit that it is extremely frustrating, difficult and indeed sometimes dangerous to keep to the limit when it is ridiculously and for no evident reason set too low.

    30 kilometres an hour is nearly impossible to keep to without constantly checking the speedometer which, of course, means you are spending less time looking at the road.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Time is money.

    But I'm glad that I wasn't in the car when my partner picked up 2 speeding tickets in one day.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Don't most vehicles come equipped with cruise control these days?

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Frankly, I'm more in favor of a speed minimum then I am in limits. Some people need to get off the road if they can't drive more 10 miles below the limit.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I haven't had a speeding ticket since 1998.
    I'm keeping it that way.

    When I was younger, I almost lost my license because I had two tickets within six months.


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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I speed, often.

    I like doing 80km/h*. It works. Problem is, residential and sub/urban limits in .za are 60, so in those cases I am well over the limit. I won't do that in a neighbourhood where there are loads of people walking or kids playing or anything, but on the main roads where there aren't such things I almost always do 75-80. I rarely get fined; in fact, I got my first speeding fine in almost two years just yesterday (76 in a 60 zone), and the previous one two years ago was my first one since 2002.

    The highway is another matter. The limit is 80, 100 or 120, depending on whether highway or freeway and how many lanes it has. I tend to do about 100 regardless - it's the perfect compromise in speed and fuel consumption for my car; not too slow that I feel like I'm never going to be on time, but not so fast that it is just a waste of fuel to save 2 minutes of travel time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    Don't most vehicles come equipped with cruise control these days?
    Your question suggests either you don't drive or that you think most speeding occurs in highway situations. Cruise control is of no use at all in traffic, whether on highway or in town. It's only good when it can be maintained without braking, which is often impossible even on an interstate.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I usually drive about 8 mph above the posted speed. Cops usually give out speeding tickets when you're at 10 mph or above. God knows I've had plenty of tickets in the past.

    I don't care if people speed past me. A few years ago, one guy was tailing me for a while then sped past me angrily. Sure enough, he got pulled over by a cop about a few miles down the road...where everyone in the neighborhood knew it's a speed trap.

    If I noticed someone is riding my tail, I purposely slow down so that car would speed past me and out of my way. I just pay attention to what I'm doing to where I'm going...fuck everyone else

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post

    But I must also admit that it is extremely frustrating, difficult and indeed sometimes dangerous to keep to the limit when it is ridiculously and for no evident reason set too low.

    30 kilometres an hour is nearly impossible to keep to without constantly checking the speedometer which, of course, means you are spending less time looking at the road.
    From what I am gathering it just comes off as people who think they're above the rules.

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    Exactly. In your case, per your first post in this thread, you are about 5 mph above the rules.

    Speed limits are not like criminal laws like theft, rape, or murder where clear harm is being done.

    Traffic regulations are put in place for safety. When they become a farce, it erodes their credibility, much like marijuana laws. They are still laws, but lack integrity.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    No, I don't. I've learned that 9 miles over is generally safe. I've also learned that one of my gps apps gives "police reported ahead" warnings.
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    No, I don't. I've learned that 9 miles over is generally safe. I've also learned that one of my gps apps gives "police reported ahead" warnings.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Exactly. In your case, per your first post in this thread, you are about 5 mph above the rules.

    Speed limits are not like criminal laws like theft, rape, or murder where clear harm is being done.
    But my reasons for going 5mph over the speed limit doesn't have to do with thinking that the speed limit is too low and then making my own rules thinking about how much they should be and going that speed.

    And no one said they are?

    Though I'd argue that people that are speeding are possibly forcing other peoples hands to make driving decisions they don't want to make because of being pressured by the speeder, especially new drivers.

    Traffic regulations are put in place for safety. When they become a farce, it erodes their credibility, much like marijuana laws. They are still laws, but lack integrity.
    I can't speak for the roads people on here ride on, so I'm sorry I don't buy into the fact that all these people actually drive on roads that have "farce" speed limitations and they feel the need to do over the limit to compensate.
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    We all take on risk the minute we turn the key in a car. Managing that risk safely is born out by our accident records, or lack thereof.

    I've never injured anyone else nor caused an accident. Many who have caused them have done so by going too slow and causing erratic behavior in the surrounding traffic stream.

    It's not a black/white dichotomy. Speed doesn't equal bad and slower doesn't equal good. It's relevant to traffic and conditions.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    ..............Speed doesn't equal bad and slower doesn't equal good. It's relevant to traffic and conditions.
    In fact I disagree here as the slower you drive the easier it is to stop and avoid an accident.

    The danger with slow drivers is the frustration they cause in other road users who, lacking all patience, will take any risk to overtake.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    People bitch about speed limits in rural areas................as if deer look both ways before crossing the road.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I tend to go with the flow of traffic instead, which usually happens to be about 10Km over the limit.

    I only ever got one ticket. I was speeding in a school zone, and it was $225

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    It depends on who is with me in the car and if I am trying to set a good example. If alone....
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    I normally stick to the speed limit because the fine can be expansive if caught.
    I'll speed abit when i'm in a rush but normally stay with the limit.


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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Depends, I speed on some roads but--on the road to my weekend home---I keep the limit as there are more fucking state troopers than cars sometimes. I still got stopped recently for failure to change lanes when a cop is giving a ticket on the side of the road---(a cop was killed a few years back giving a ticket on the side of a highway) so--NY state has a new law that you must move away---change lanes---away from a cop who has stopped someone on the side of the road---I could not change lanes as everyone was freaking out and changing lanes and I was trapped---so a 21 year old blue eyed blond cop with aviator glasses who looked like a gay porn star stopped me and gave me a ticket--(not exaggerating he was a classic hottie)--I fought it and won---it's hard to prove I could change lanes safely with out causing a big multi-car pileup.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    We used to use a "Fuzzbuster" or Radar detector years back, that would always help. It beeped when a radar gun was aimed at you so would slam on the brakes. lol. Anybody still have one of these? Do they even make them anymore? I forgot about mine.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I run with traffic in general. I have learned that if everyone is doing 90 in a 65 zone, the slowest car get's the ticket.
    Nonetheless, I drive defensively and according to road conditions.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    With cruse control available on most automobiles these days, it seems ridiculous for drivers to speed. On city streets, as long as the posted speed limit is above 30 MPH, I usually set cruse at 1 MPH higher than the posted speed limit, most of the time hitting lights green while the speed daemons race ahead to the next stop light, and just shake my head at those who seem to be in such a hurry to get anywhere. There have been studies done about speed limits within metropolitan areas and speeders that show the amount of time saved by running 5 to 10 miles an hour over the posted limit only saves seconds over those of us who travel at posted speeds. Unfortunately, I can't find any links. Most of the studies I have come across are about highway speeds, not city street speed limits

    Now, out on the highways, where the posted limit is say 60 MPH, I set cruse at 67 and don't have any problems. When limit goes to 65, I speed up a couple of MPH. At 70 MPH, I'm on cruse at 73. . .at 75, I'm running 78.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I tend to drive 2 to 3 mph over the speed limit on the highway and TRY not to speed in town!

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    Cruise control is useless around here because you constantly get slowed down to 40mph by some F**** PRIUS needing to hypermile.
    I think many people speed out of sheer frustration, when you finally get some space it feels good to finally run a little. I know I like to open it up after creeping and crawling through relentless traffic. 405 freeway anyone?
    And then if it DOES open up, here comes the Prius or Camry slowing the world down, making the days longer again. That's just not right either. My dad actually got pulled over once for driving too slow on the freeway.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    In the city, I obey speed limit by 5-7mph. Always fully stop at stop signs. Had some very close calls with people rolling right through and not looking both ways.

    On the highway though we have 55MPH limits in Chicago/Suburbs, yeah, no one does 55MPH. 65-85 MPH is the norm. I usually do 70MPH. I do have a radar/laser detector as well.

    Never gotten pulled over or ticketed yet.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by pilotguy121a View Post
    In the city, I obey speed limit by 5-7mph. Always fully stop at stop signs. Had some very close calls with people rolling right through and not looking both ways.

    On the highway though we have 55MPH limits in Chicago/Suburbs, yeah, no one does 55MPH. 65-85 MPH is the norm. I usually do 70MPH. I do have a radar/laser detector as well.
    Never gotten pulled over or ticketed yet.
    That must be nice people were i live people go 45 to 50 om the freeway and it drive me crazy .

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    I stick to the speed limit i always leave early for work. Cops here are too worried about writing tickets then crime and we have the speed cameras. I heard my fair share of "You drive too slow"etc cars do go around me but oh well.

    Yellow lights i don't run them unless I'm extremely close to the light its sad when you see 30 cars run a yellow/red light.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I also stop at all yellow lights and stop signs. I never cross the continuous white line and never stop on a pedestrian crossing. In traffic jams I leave enough space for someone to turn into or out of a side road. In a jam I never cross the lights until there is enough space for me to clear the junction.








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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Where I live there are so many elderly and illegals you're pretty much trapped going at whatever speed THEY want to go at.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    Where I live there are so many elderly and illegals you're pretty much trapped going at whatever speed THEY want to go at.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I've never had a speeding ticket. I make a point of trying to stick to the limit when I have other people in the car. But, on the motorway, if it's a clear long stretch with virtually no other cars nearby, I might pick the pace up a bit.


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    Hey one of us might be one of those elderly.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    The speed posted on the little sign-thingies at the side of the road is the speed to be done, barring construction, debris on the roads, or bad weather. Not clouds, but specifically bad weather like freezing rain, or something that would actually affect safety. This is the speed at which no one can complain about your driving.

    • Don't merge onto the 80 km/h main road at 70
    • Don't travel on the 80 km/h main road at 78. Keep using that velocitator until you reach the posted speed, and do it promptly.
    • Don't merge onto the 110 km/h highway at 80.
    • If you are in the passing lane, traffic should be receding in the lane to your right (in CA, US, FR) or receding in the lane to your left (HK, UK, ZA) otherwise you have no convincing reason to stay there.
    • If you are in the passing lane and someone in front of you is doing at least the speed limit and passing traffic, you get to wait your fucking turn until they're done passing.
    • If someone prefers to pass faster than you, and they're following the rule above and waiting patiently, it is polite to let them go when you can find a break in traffic to pull into. You are not the speed police, and if they have been waiting patiently they've demonstrated judgement and skill.
    • If you ignore these rules and someone takes evasive action to get around you whilst giving you some helpful driving tips with assorted gestures through their open window, you are not a "victim of road rage." You're a public transit user, who needs to realize it.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    Don't most vehicles come equipped with cruise control these days?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Your question suggests either you don't drive or that you think most speeding occurs in highway situations. Cruise control is of no use at all in traffic, whether on highway or in town. It's only good when it can be maintained without braking, which is often impossible even on an interstate.
    I don't think I can engage my cruise control unless I'm going at least 35 MPH.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    the speed posted on the little sign-thingies at the side of the road is the speed to be done, barring construction, debris on the roads, or bad weather. Not clouds, but specifically bad weather like freezing rain, or something that would actually affect safety. This is the speed at which no one can complain about your driving.

    • don't merge onto the 80 km/h main road at 70
    • don't travel on the 80 km/h main road at 78. Keep using that velocitator until you reach the posted speed, and do it promptly.
    • don't merge onto the 110 km/h highway at 80.
    • if you are in the passing lane, traffic should be receding in the lane to your right (in ca, us, fr) or receding in the lane to your left (hk, uk, za) otherwise you have no convincing reason to stay there.
    • if you are in the passing lane and someone in front of you is doing at least the speed limit and passing traffic, you get to wait your fucking turn until they're done passing.
    • if someone prefers to pass faster than you, and they're following the rule above and waiting patiently, it is polite to let them go when you can find a break in traffic to pull into. You are not the speed police, and if they have been waiting patiently they've demonstrated judgement and skill.
    • if you ignore these rules and someone takes evasive action to get around you whilst giving you some helpful driving tips with assorted gestures through their open window, you are not a "victim of road rage." you're a public transit user, who needs to realize it.
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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    We have a TV programme up here called Canada's Worst Driver (on Discovery). Some of the people on there are truly unbelievable and leave you wondering how they even got their licence in the first place.

    Anyway, one of the people on the show insisted that speed limits were merely suggestions.

    As for me, in all my decades of driving, I received only 1 speeding ticket. I guess I was lucky that that was the only time I got caught.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    I don't think I can engage my cruise control unless I'm going at least 35 MPH.
    Give it a try.

    I have used cruise control on several long school zone stretches at 15/20 MPH and across a 3-mile stretch of bog inside the limits of a nearby city at 30 MPH for years.

    I use cruise control a lot because of my bum legs, but I've never had anything special installed - just use the stock equipment.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I have utilized cruise control on city streets for as long as I can remember automobiles having cruise. It isn't a problem except during rush hours, when traffic is so heavy as to make trying to utilize it literally impossible. However, during most of the rest of the day (or night) I have no problem with cruise control. I maintain a constant speed (for the most part, barring steep downhill grades that make an automobile coast regardless of speed set) and as long as the vehicles in front of me are traveling faster than the posted limit (which is probably 95% of drivers ) it doesn't create a problem.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    I've gotten just one ticket for speeding. Traffic was streaming around me, but I was ten mph over the posted limit, so with the out-of-state plates I became a target.

    I stay between twenty percent below and ten percent above the posted limit, depending on what helps traffic flow more smoothly.

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    Re: Do you obey the speed limit?

    Seems like I'm one of the few speed demons here...and I don't really even consider myself driving all that fast. It's very difficult for me to stay under the speed limit on freeways if there is ample space between cars. All the Cali folks will know what I'm talking about if I point out the stretch of "I-5" between Modesto and Bakersfield. That stretch is just begging for me to push 90mph when there is nary a car in sight (or everyone is basically doing 85+ anyway).

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