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    Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    It's impossible to track the news without seeing how corporate power over government just keeps increasing. It's also impossible without bumping into the marriage issue.

    My suspicious mind got to wondering if same-sex marriage is going to come to pass as a bone tossed to distract liberals and progressives while Obama and the rest of the corporate throng sink the Republic farther into a corporatocracy. Or by some blessed chance, will the energy that has driven this cause continue on to tackle the problem of taking back democracy?



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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    To see the answer to that, simply look at Andrew Cuomo, whom is facing a primary challenge (even though he'll win) from the Left.
    Many people aren't ignoring how chummy some of our allies are with Wall Street and I hope that continues.

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    I have been saying this from the beginning. It is definitely a bone...and a distraction. I am surprised that the "centrists" aren't delighted they have a man in the White House. The top 10% has done very well with Mr Obama at the helm.
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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I have been saying this from the beginning. It is definitely a bone...and a distraction. I am surprised that the "centrists" aren't delighted they have a man in the White House. The top 10% has done very well with Mr Obama at the helm.
    Top two percent, anyway -- I know some people in the next eight down and they're not all quite thrilled.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    Whatever it is....once the whole issue of homosexual rights and marriage is no longer a political distraction...maybe the citizens of the US will finally start to hold the politicians' feet to the fire and focus on the rest of the shit that counts.

    It sure as hell made a huge difference in Canada once parties and politicians could no longer use the homos as a wedge issue or as a means of distracting the voters. Just pray that it now goes as quickly as possible.

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    Social issues...gay rights, abortion, civil rights and personal freedom vs. imposed theocratic concepts are independent of the plutocracy in which we live. Historically, women's suffrage or Black Civil Rights were not contrived or meted out to distract the populace from the great plan of the rich and powerful. Actually, both were issues that could directly impact the power of the elites, but they prevailed, and universal suffrage and racial equality (at least before the law) at non-issues. Gay marriage is a real issue, and the fact that it is prevailing in Federal Court is because there is no basis for its prohibition. It is not a bone thrown out by corporate America. Civil rights on all levels are real issues. The real issues around tax reform and the ever increasing chasm between the upper 1% are stymied by our general passivity. Trillions on wars to nowhere, yet everyone is always PC to
    "honor our troops" as if to try to save them and us from any further waste of blood and treasure is treasonous. A financial system structured so that WE serve IT, and it only obstructs and limits US, unbridled and indulged as "too big to fail". A Congress bought and paid for that DOES divert our attention with non-issues, and we tolerate that they accomplish NOTHING, oblivious to our real and critical issues. PACS that funnel MILLIONS into random political races and referendoms for the sole purpose of electing bobble heads that will do nothing to impede the ability of the plutarch to extend their power and shameless wealth.

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    As the rest of our society advances socially, we continue to fall behind economically. Unfortunately, there is no public dialogue about income inequality in this country. The media is getting louder about it, but no one is listening. A token distraction focusing on it is raising the minimum wage, which is not the cure-all to the overwhelming problems we have in corporate welfare, low tax rates for the rich, butchered education and social programs, and a crumbling infrastructure.

    Marriage equality is wonderful, but we still have LGBT employment discrimination, Trans rights, hate laws, and adoption rights to contend with.
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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    As the rest of our society advances socially, we continue to fall behind economically. Unfortunately, there is no public dialogue about income inequality in this country. The media is getting louder about it, but no one is listening. A token distraction focusing on it is raising the minimum wage, which is not the cure-all to the overwhelming problems we have in corporate welfare, low tax rates for the rich, butchered education and social programs, and a crumbling infrastructure.

    Marriage equality is wonderful, but we still have LGBT employment discrimination, Trans rights, hate laws, and adoption rights to contend with.
    The media won't get too loud about it because their corporate masters don't want it pushed.

    Somehow we need to bust up media empires. Freedom of the press was meant to result in lots of competing news sources arguing with each other, not a chorus of similar voices.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    It's not a distraction any more than the Darth Vader gargoyle on the National Cathedral.

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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    I don't think parties have to be anti business to be pro -what's right for America's 99%. I just think Wall Street should not think it owns politicians of both parties. Where it goes wrong is not pragmatic politics of working with business(as one should work with all sectors including labor, etc)but cynically doing corporate America's bidding. A pure socialist (democratic socialist, I'm not saying communist/ totalitarian) movement that actually governs left is doomed to failure just as the opportunistic worship of free markets destroys so much of what makers for a civilized, enlightened society. That said, some aspects of the European style works a lot better than those on the right in the GOP would ever want to believe or admit.... but only to a point. Those who oppose Cuomo are a disaster... just wish Cuomo would stick with principles, because the loony left in his party will take us over a cliff.... and make us all EQUALLY miserable.

    As far same sex marriage being a "distraction" or throwing us a "bone" the move towards marriage equality is the right move both in merit and in is historic inevitability. Why is it that people can't have differences of opinion without anyone who thinks opposite or differently on certain matters have to be villified and their motivations rendered suspect, on either side?
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    Re: Is same-sex marriage like a bone tossed to a dog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    To see the answer to that, simply look at Andrew Cuomo, whom is facing a primary challenge (even though he'll win) from the Left.
    Many people aren't ignoring how chummy some of our allies are with Wall Street and I hope that continues.
    If "people" is referring to those who prefer Democrats over Republicans, many of those are indeed either ignoring or not noticing or excusing Wall Street Democrats. One thing that explains Dave Brat having dethroned Eric Cantor in the Virginia U.S. House Republican primary race, early this month, is that Brat tapped into Cantor representing Wall Street. Where is the Democratic equivalent who will actually succeed in doing to an incumbent from the party what Brat did to Cantor from the Republican side?

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