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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Do you have an "impression"? Do you have a "feeling"?

    I suggest you re-read my words in this thread and look at the documentary evidence I have presented in this thread.

    My gripe is with the small amount of documentary evidence presented in the trial and the very LARGE amount of undocumented impressions and unquantifiable memories given by invisible 'persons unnamed'.

    I get annoyed at this cloak of secrecy.
    I think the cloak of secrecy might have to do with what news papers are/are not allowed to report on - if they gave the time and dates everything happened it might become obvious to identify the victims ect. I am not certain on that, but the press wont be allowed to say everything. I mean in the case of his daughters friend, they have exact dates for when it happened as it occurred on a holiday.

    But what is documented evidence in these type of cases? Do you want to watch a film of him groping young girls? It just seems you want to find an excuse to let him off - or at the least that is how it's coming across.

    Anonymity for the victims of rape is massively important and I can't believe you think it would be better to have them be named in front on the world - for what purpose? Scare them from coming forward?
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    That Vanessa Feltz and Linda Nolan need to hop back on their broomsticks get their cauldrons out and find another way to stay relevant.

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/l...harris-3822613

    Lind Nolan's not a happy woman, but is she being honest or is she just jumping along the bandwagon...????? Remember, he is convicted for good reason, but do you think Linda is just spitting shit from her mouth.???


    Remember this woman has a habit of talking shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    .....................My gripe is with the small amount of documentary evidence presented in the trial and the very LARGE amount of undocumented impressions and unquantifiable memories given by invisible 'persons unnamed'.

    I get annoyed at this cloak of secrecy. ................................
    Okay for my own peace of mind I will assume that you think he should have been prosecuted. Though you have not actually confirmed that in black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    Okay for my own peace of mind I will assume that you think he should have been prosecuted. Though you have not actually confirmed that in black and white.
    I think he does not think he should have been convicted though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    I think he does not think he....
    I think your thinking is incorrect.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28099078


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28100079


    I wonder if the word 'darling' could be used against him?

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    He has the arrogance and complete lack of apology to imply that he has nothing to be ashamed of apart from cheating on his wife.
    I remember Jonathon King saying long and loud that he was not guilty of abusing 14 yr olds despite the overwhelming evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I think your thinking is incorrect.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28099078


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28100079


    I wonder if the word 'darling' could be used against him?
    So you are cool with him going to prison, despite in your mind there being a lack of evidence?

    I don't understand your links by the way? Some old friends of his saying they are sad? What does that have to do with your opinion?

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    I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality. If society has finally opened its eyes to the idea that celebrity does not insulate someone from accountability, and sweeping sexual crimes under the carpet isn't "the best for all concerned" then certainly I'm glad the charges would have proceeded on the basis of what might have been reported so many years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    If anything good has come of this, it's that we now know Russell Brand's social commentary to be as coherent and insightful as his economic commentary. A generation ago his words would have appeared on the printed page and I could have put them to good use. But broadcasting his video pontifications from the bottom of the birdcage toward the arse of my parrot hardly seems to accomplish anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality. If society has finally opened its eyes to the idea that celebrity does not insulate someone from accountability, and sweeping sexual crimes under the carpet isn't "the best for all concerned" then certainly I'm glad the charges would have proceeded on the basis of what might have been reported so many years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    ...I don't understand your links by the way? Some old friends of his saying they are sad? What does that have to do with your opinion?
    I was having a quiet chuckle at Cilla Black not knowing what to say about this tawdry case and remembering how often she complained that her fans had deserted her because she had the temerity of betraying her working class roots by having that nose job.

    And I was imagining that Sacha Wass and her femi-nazi brigade would be attacking the diminutive Mr Corbett for being condescending by calling the interviewer 'darling'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    ...
    If anything good has come of this, it's that we now know Russell Brand's social commentary to be as coherent and insightful as his economic commentary. A generation ago his words would have appeared on the printed page and I could have put them to good use. But broadcasting his video pontifications from the bottom of the birdcage toward the arse of my parrot hardly seems to accomplish anything.
    Is your first sentence sarcasm?

    I think there's a mega-difference between the printed word and the spoken word. Most commentary on current TV docos seem acceptable when they accompany good visuals on the TV screen. But they turn to rubbish when you see them transcribed to the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. ...
    I notice how you use the past tense. He "was" an "entertainer" of sorts but not to my taste.

    He had a modicum of talent in drawing and in writing ditties. He had more talent than Jimmy Fallon, Jonah Hill Feldstein, Ellen de generes, and all the other teens who appear in JUB's Male Celebrity forum, Chris Brown, Eminem and all the other North American bilge that the mega-powerful American Entertainment industry pushes onto the rest of the world.

    I like what you say here—

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    ... Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality…..
    You mention the passage of time. I mentioned it earlier in post #102 when I mentioned that the English monarch takes a long-term view of the passage of time and doesn't engage in the current fads of the fickle commoners and their blind love in TV celebrities.

    Today's newspaper has a District Court Judge Garry Neilson also referring to the passage of time—

    just as gay sex was socially unacceptable and criminal in the 1950s and 1960s but is now widely accepted, “a jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now ‘available’, not having sexual partner”.

    He also said the “only reason” that incest is still a crime is because of the high risk of genetic abnormalities in children born from consanguineous relationships “but even that falls away to an extent [because] there is such ease of contraception and readily access to abortion”.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I was having a quiet chuckle at Cilla Black not knowing what to say about this tawdry case and remembering how often she complained that her fans had deserted her because she had the temerity of betraying her working class roots by having that nose job.

    And I was imagining that Sacha Wass and her femi-nazi brigade would be attacking the diminutive Mr Corbett for being condescending by calling the interviewer 'darling'.
    Just put JohhnyAnger on ignore he will only attack your posts and challenge them if you don't, you will find your time here much more enjoyable if you don't engage In his baiting that's all he ever does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemizanin729 View Post
    Just put JohhnyAnger on ignore he will only attack your posts and challenge them if you don't, you will find your time here much more enjoyable if you don't engage In his baiting that's all he ever does.
    I was not attacking him, he appeared to be wanting to let him off. When I asked him on it, he posted links to Cilla Black. I only asked him again what his position was. I don't really care either way, I just wanted him to be a bit clearer on the topic.

    I doubt Pat will feel I was going out of my way to attack him maliciously...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemizanin729 View Post
    …ignore..
    Mike, Johhny is just behaving like I might have ten years ago. Besides I usually wait a while before putting someone on ignore; human beings are moody and can be terse, serious, ironical and whimsical in turn so I wait for 6 months or so before putting those JUB mono-maniacal stalkers on ignore.

    I do notice even the more sensible, regular JUBbers do get pleasure in criticizing anyone who's different. Telstra and Jayqueer present alternative viewpoints and SO MANY JUBbers would queue up to criticise them which made them very popular posters.

    I used to be stalked by a JUBber who called himself JUB's "Policeman". He wants everyone to conform to his ideas. I call that fascism.

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    ^ Pat, I know I am never going to change your mind on anything - from what I have seen of each other we are both to belligerent for that! Again whatever you believe is fine, I was just trying to get clarity on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I used to be stalked by a JUBber who called himself JUB's "Policeman". He wants everyone to conform to his ideas. I call that fascism.
    Yeah, It occasionally emerges from the water to stick its teeth in with its negative comments I had it before it's just like a shark though to hunt its victims and bite into them.

    He did choose his name wisely old sharky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Oh please Max like Pat is going to put anyone on ignore, rather like you never would. tbaft
    When i entered his shitlist he entered my ignore list.

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    An Englishwoman wrote this to an English newspaper about the current hysteria—

    I was talking to my mum and she said she used to go to a dentist in the 70's who fondled her breasts when in the chair. She told my dad who I don't think thought it serious but she told a friend of hers when discussing the dentist and it turns out she went to him and he did it to her too! They changed dentists. He must have been doing it to all his patients.

    My mum was a nurse and she regularly had her bum felt etc when she was younger, in the 60,70's and 80's.. Now, my mum wasn't a vulnerable child but non of these incidents have ruined her life. There must be many women with similar stories. But what do we do arrest everyone?! What worries me about the present mania is that it seems to diminish the real dangerous vile peadophiles of the type who harm and kill children and the police do need to focus on present danger.

    Also the idea that it might be an arrestable offence if you don't go to the police if you suspect abuse strikes me as ludicrous and more importantly dangerous.

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    ^ Pat Grimshaw - Oh for God sake I'm not going to sit here and confirm that all official Australian offices (including state schools) still hold the "Wattle" Queen portrait in some major part of the building but I do know that even the private (elite) schools in Australia like Kings College and The Scotts college and even my own high school in Northern New South Wales has the portrait hung. It's a very common figure of the Australian institution as a sign of historical and modern day solidarity with the British Monarchy and the Commonwealth in general. She is only officially called the "Queen of Australia" when she is in residence here and as far as I know the same goes for Canada. That "wattle" portrait represents that.

    ps - for anyone that's interested, wattle is a native Australian bush with yellow flowers that can be churned into an amazing ice-cream.

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    She is indeed Queen of Canada, and we're pretty happy monarchists.

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    wow. 3 pages. on this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    She is indeed Queen of Canada, and we're pretty happy monarchists.
    Phew, I was taking a stab at that having read it somewhere so thanks for the confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    wow. 3 pages. on this guy.
    Blame Linda Nolan and Vanessa Feltz for constantly selling their stories to the media.

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    And the so called victim Vanessa Feltz doesn't look like a victim right now on (Big Brothers bit on the side). She appears to be just a moaning liar desperate for media attention because she is just spewing her tripe for some more Tv time.

    Oh Vanessa will you ever disappear from our tv's and newspapers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Legionair View Post
    ps - for anyone that's interested, wattle is a native Australian bush with yellow flowers that can be churned into an amazing ice-cream.
    What does it taste like.????

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    This is amusing—
    Quote Originally Posted by alxwhtmr95 View Post
    I didn't know his show was sort of the Englisg version of The Jersey Shore- thought it was an actual show, not 'reality'....he is goregous, but the tats definitely take away from him- having a pedophile on your arm is kinda weird.

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    He makes a good point about MJ on his tattoo how come he still gets respect from everybody...???? I admit I do like some of his music, butf he got of lightly from his fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemizanin729 View Post
    ...MJ ...
    Wacko Jacko should be incarcerated just like Harris in Wandsworth.


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    Wacko Jacko should be incarcerated just like Harris in Wandsworth.

    Your 5 years too late, he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemizanin729 View Post
    He makes a good point about MJ on his tattoo how come he still gets respect from everybody...???? I admit I do like some of his music, butf he got of lightly from his fans.
    Well he got let off all charges in the end, so I guess they took that as lack of guilt.

    I never know with MJ, he seems too weird and damaged to have been sexual at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    ...I never know with MJ, he seems too weird and damaged to have been sexual at all.
    Yes. MJ asked the surgeons to cut his nose off then he kind-of castrated his own voice. I just wonder if Jacko had a functioning penis,

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    This (noisy) video says Cliff has already been arrested for boy sex—


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    ^ He will get off, the judge they have set up with the case won't do shit! She will keep the state clean on this one - there would be too many MI5, MPs, civil servants and judges to be taken out for anything to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Let's convict him first, not to even mention that the poor fucker is presently dead.
    So is Jimmy Savile. Just frees the press up to conduct a trial by media without the risk of a libel writ.

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    ^^^ He has been dead for almost 2years and I don't think a day goes by on the news when they don't at least once mention (The Jimmy Savile inquiry).

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    ^ ^ ^

    It sounds pathetic, mike.

    The media working itself up in a frenzy. And the pathetic people who once claimed to know the so-called monster are now mute.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legionair View Post
    ^ Pat Grimshaw - Oh for God sake I'm not going to sit here and confirm that all official Australian offices (including state schools) still hold the "Wattle" Queen portrait in some major part of the building but I do know that even the private (elite) schools in Australia like Kings College and The Scotts college and even my own high school in Northern New South Wales has the portrait hung. It's a very common figure ...
    I'm not asking you to sit there. I'm suggesting you get off your bottom and find out the present facts.

    Because I suspect everything you describe here about the "Wattle" Queen portraits started in the mid-1950s and ended in the last decade. The Queen is NO LONGER in fashion in with the PC fools, femi-Nazis and castrated men who are now in control in our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    You know that wasn't stalking Pat, more like rough wooing.

    Oh, Bender. That man may be superficially attractive. He may have the 'gift of the gab' but I reckon if you look closer you'll find a chip on his shoulder bigger than anything in his pants.


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    Caravaggio was a good painter who killed a young man.

    Carlo Gesualdo was a composer who murdered and mutilated his wife.

    Oscar Wilde was a convict.

    Donald Friend whose colourful paintings are displayed in many public institutions was a boy-lover.

    And bogans are demanding that Harris' public murals be painted over.



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    ^ To be honest Harris' art work is pretty shit and probably should be painted over on artistic grounds!

    Also Pat, I do love your use of bogan. I always just imagined it to be a word we Brits associate with Australians, but that no one actually uses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post

    Also Pat, I do love your use of bogan. I always just imagined it to be a word we Brits associate with Australians, but that no one actually uses!
    Really? I don't hear it much either.

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    It just seems like the kind of word I would use if I was impersonating a Aussie badly! Not that there is any problem with it Pat

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    ^ after living in the UK and Ireland I always thought "bogan" was used in the same way that you would refer to someone as a chav.

    Found a definition of sorts that outlines what a chav is and bogan means exactly the same thing - except bogans can be found in all parts of urban Australia and are not just associated with the youth - it's their parents as well.

    "A chav is a stereotype of certain people in the United Kingdom. Also known as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England. "chavs" are said to be aggressive teenagers, of working class background, who repeatedly engage in anti-social behaviour such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency."

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    Re: Rolf Harris; do you care?

    England as a whole is falling to pieces.I like certain areas within the country Devon is a nice place and so are a few upper class areas In London.The government is a disgrace I used to be a fan of the conservatives, but their current leader/prime minister is nothing more than laziness even Thatcher didn't spend most her time on vacation.

    Without the idea of the following list.
    Eastenders.
    Hollyoaks.
    Big brother.
    The only way is Essex.
    Sainsburys and Waitrose the Supermarkets.
    And made in Chelsea and a couple of good looking females Helen from Big Brother and Winston Showan the place is really a dump and a world of problems.

  50. #150

    Re: Rolf Harris; do you care?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikemizanin729 View Post
    England as a whole is falling to pieces….
    I get the same sad impression. And I hear the hordes of Romanian beggars are equally grumpy at the slim pickings to be had thieving, littering and begging around their camps in the tunnels and at the Marble Arch and Park Lane.


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