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    Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)



    THIS is a somewhat intriguing but baffling development.

    Staged pretense? (surely it must be)

    Firstly, that Putin came out and advised, in public, on camera, for a postponement to the approaching 'independence' votes in two Ukrainian provinces (but why????)

    Secondly, that the local separatist leaders on the ground in two Ukrainian provinces have apparently ignored his advice and are going to push ahead anyway (defying Putin????)

    *scratches head*

    A way for Putin to hold his hands up afterwards and say, "Well, I tried to stop it, but these nuisance disobedient pro-Russian militants, they were just determined to go ahead and disobey me and ignore me, so what could I do?"

    Or a sign that he's genuinely backtracking on the escalation, and seeking a way out amid talk of further sanctions against him?

    Reference articles:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27320806

    Ukraine crisis: Pro-Russia rebel vote to go ahead

    Pro-Russian activists in eastern Ukraine have decided to go ahead with an independence referendum on Sunday, despite a call from Russian President Vladimir Putin to postpone it.

    The move was announced by separatist leaders after consulting supporters.

    On Wednesday, Mr Putin called for a postponement to create the conditions necessary for dialogue.
    And then the same question asked as I was wondering....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27324637

    Ukraine crisis: Why did Putin intervene in referendum?

    As Eastern Ukraine spiralled into violence in the last few weeks there has been lots of fury from Moscow, but few insights into President Vladimir Putin's strategy.
    The following three possible reasons suggested in the article:

    It may be a sign the President Putin thought the fighting in the Donetsk region was heading into a bloody dead-end that might be about spiral out of control.

    Or it may be a sign that he feels that the next round of sanctions would hurt Russia too much, and he thinks the annexation of Crimea is sufficient punishment of Kiev and the EU and the US for now.

    But it may just be a delaying tactic, a way of seeming to be doing something while knowing that the conflict will continue, further undermining the government in Kiev.
    As it stands....

    Voters in two regions will go to the ballot box on Sunday.



    As goes Crimea, as goes Donetsk and Luhansk.

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    No doubt some intelligence report will come out with the real reason. I am guessing Putin did a cost benefit analysis and oulled out. That's the simplest explanation but not the only plausible one. I think he wants the influence the Soviet Union once had and is willing to test the limits to get it.

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    It was the banks, who realized he was going to fuck them over.

    Or maybe it's just a Russe (grin see what I did there!)
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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    He actually just turned up in Sebastopol to celebrate Victory Day today.

    He doesn't need referenda.

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    No doubt some intelligence report will come out with the real reason. I am guessing Putin did a cost benefit analysis and oulled out. That's the simplest explanation but not the only plausible one. I think he wants the influence the Soviet Union once had and is willing to test the limits to get it.
    He wants to be Tsar.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    Intriguing indeed.

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Intriguing indeed.
    Intriguingly like a symptom of early dementia.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    Well, now Putin is saying that the unrest in Ukraine is due to gay Nazis.

    http://www.wtvm.com/story/25509513/g...ing-putin-says

    I presume gays and Nazis are the two worst things Putin can think of. Anything that bad obviously needs to be attacked.

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    Re: Putin unexpectedly calls for halt to upcoming separatist referendums in eastern Ukraine - militants decide to ignore him (????)

    ^ God I find his moobs unsettling somehow.

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