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    Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Utterly sad. I guess this is another victory for California Democrats.

    Another major company with California headquarters will be shutting down its operations in California & moving to the Lone Star State.

    Toyota has had its North American headquarters in Southern California since 1957, when they opened their first US dealership in Hollywood, California. They've been based in Torrance, California (a suburb of L.A.), for the past 40 years.

    Until now.

    Lured by Texas governor Rick Perry & lower taxes, cheaper land, and less regulations - Toyota's headquarters (& all of their upper level personnel) will be moving to suburban Dallas, Texas (Plano). In one fell swoop, that's a loss of over 6,000 desirable jobs from California to Texas.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...rters-to-texas

    It's also particularly sad, as Californians probably are Toyota's most loyal customers. Driving around in California, you will seriously see more Toyotas on the road than Fords or Chevys.

    This latest exodus continues the trend of businesses leaving California for red states. Nissan, used to have its North American headquarters in Southern California too, until it moved to Mississippi in 2006. Northrup Grumman (defense contractor) moved all of its operations from Southern California to Northern Virginia in 2010.

    Even California's most famous industries - the film industry in Southern California & the technology industry in Silicon Valley/ Bay area are leaving the state. Companies like Apple are setting up shop in places like Austin, Texas. Film companies are leaving California to go to places like Atlanta, Georgia & Louisiana & North Carolina, where they are offered huge tax breaks.

    Heck, even porn companies are leaving California, probably also because of the new "condoms mandatory in porn" laws in California.

    The Sriracha hot sauce company recently opened a new factory near L.A. but they too want to leave California, for a more business-friendly locale. Apparently 4 people complained about the smell outside the Sriracha factory, so the local city is suing them for damages in court and declared the factory a "public nuisance."

    You seriously can't make this sh*t up.

    Can any of the liberals or Democrats here please explain to me why Democrats hate businesses so much that they impose so many regulations and high taxes on them? And then when those businesses leave (& take good paying jobs with them) to "red" states like Texas, Democrats act shocked & surprised??

    It's huntin' season, Californians. Rick Perry & Republicans from red states are here to poach your jobs.....
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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    well, I actually read that

    ...might as well post

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    You should be cheering, JQ -- Perry's just doing what the GOP is all about: increasing corporate profits and fuck the taxpayers!

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    You should be cheering, JQ -- Perry's just doing what the GOP is all about: increasing corporate profits and fuck the taxpayers!
    I would be cheering if I lived in Texas. I've been thinking about moving to Texas though........Dallas is nice. Lots of big, hunky Texan men

    But it's sad to see California fall apart. California is arguably the most beautiful state in America, but it has been ruined by Democrats & their anti-business, job killing policies.

    Btw, its Democrats who hate taxpayers. If you kill all the jobs, who can pay the (high) taxes?? What California Democrats want is a welfare state. Who needs to work when you can just get "free money" in the form of welfare checks? And when you're dependent on receiving welfare, you'll keep on voting in Democrats because you don't want anyone to cut off your welfare and food stamps.

    California Democrats don't really want to create more jobs. Which is why they enact regulations and high taxes. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage, but they don't understand that no company worth its salt is going to compromise profits to do that. When forced to raise minimum wage by law, companies will simply fire some employees, and have the remaining employees do more. Or, they'll just pack up and move to another state where they have less burdensome regulations.
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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    It's hard to know if you believe the partisan talking points you cut and paste here or not. You sound just as disingenuous as the politicians you parrot.

    As much as I don't like the mentality of those on the right, I also don't view them as a bunch of cartoon villains whose only desire is the downfall of the US. Viewing one's political counterparts like that is childish at best, and I have little reason to believe it isn't purely disingenuous.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I would be cheering if I lived in Texas. I've been thinking about moving to Texas though........Dallas is nice. Lots of big, hunky Texan men

    But it's sad to see California fall apart. California is arguably the most beautiful state in America, but it has been ruined by Democrats & their anti-business, job killing policies.

    Btw, its Democrats who hate taxpayers. If you kill all the jobs, who can pay the (high) taxes?? What California Democrats want is a welfare state. Who needs to work when you can just get "free money" in the form of welfare checks? And when you're dependent on receiving welfare, you'll keep on voting in Democrats because you don't want anyone to cut off your welfare and food stamps.

    California Democrats don't really want to create more jobs. Which is why they enact regulations and high taxes. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage, but they don't understand that no company worth its salt is going to compromise profits to do that. When forced to raise minimum wage by law, companies will simply fire some employees, and have the remaining employees do more. Or, they'll just pack up and move to another state where they have less burdensome regulations.
    Oh bullshit.

    The problem with the US in its zero sum game of driving the country into the ground through corporate welfare is that off-shore companies will look for the best deal to boost the bottom line. The reason that you have so many people on welfare is precisely because the corporations aren't paying a living wage. As far as the corporations go, many of them feel that they are getting the value out of any taxes they pay by forcing people to have to work two jobs for minimum wage and to use food stamps to fill the gap that a decent wage would provide.

    If California got rid of all its taxes, there would still be a race for Toyota to find the State that would allow them to pay about 5 bucks an hour.

    Stop whining.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I would be cheering if I lived in Texas.
    Why don't you?

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    ^ What?

    I think we all know why that isn't going to happen.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Welfare is one of those key words used to describe hate towards lower income and the poor. I doubt JQ could tell any facts or knows a thing about how much people get , how to qualify, time limits, & restrictions. To believe that welfare provides a livable wage if one can get it as cash payments from a state is just stupid. For instance in many states single people can't get it period.
    HUD, Medicaid, utility payments & SNAP are other examples and they have vigorous requirements as well. For a healthy single person they are next to impossible to get in most states and all have qualifications that are closely monitored. For those elderly, disabled, or children the amounts are hardly good enough to have a modest~ meek living outside of poverty.
    I have a close single friend in Florida who works low wage retail. His annual income is about 14 K he receives 15.00 a month in SNAP food assistance. He doesn't qualify for Medicaid because his income is to high. He uses public transport or friends and gets some assistance from HUD for a nice old efficiency flat in a very bad neighborhood.
    The people who qualify for all benefits are children and a single Mother. That seems logical for the children. If people break the law or abuse it they still are not living half as well as the greed raining down with entitlements and welfare for the top. Nor are business that are successful and money making sharing those rewards as in decades past with their employees.
    For some reason that's beyond me I cannot understand why right wing flunkies that are towards the bottom of the feeding trough inclined to side with those that don't give a fuck when they fall into the muck with the poor and lower income they could easily become.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    An interesting read minus the childish political name calling.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...tates-miracle/

    Now that piece above is from a paid Texas spokesman. If you want to look at some things Toyota apparently does not value then look below.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/texas...ifornia-2013-4

    Still Texas ought to be careful what she asks for.... all these outsiders moving in will surely turn her purple if not blue, high population almost always equals blue state.
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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    TRUE CONFESSIONS:

    I tried to read Gov. Perry's book, Fed Up. The book was geared to the average fifth grader. When the governor asserted that Social Security is a ponzi scheme, that was it for me. By the time I got to page 50, I decided to return the tome to the library, embarrassed. I realized that I took time off my precious life that could never be recovered.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Utterly sad. I guess this is another victory for California Democrats.
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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    California Democrats don't really want to create more jobs. Which is why they enact regulations and high taxes. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage, but they don't understand that no company worth its salt is going to compromise profits to do that. When forced to raise minimum wage by law, companies will simply fire some employees, and have the remaining employees do more. Or, they'll just pack up and move to another state where they have less burdensome regulations.
    Four or so years ago I believed that, too. Then I started studying the actual information about our economy.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    ^ What?

    I think we all know why that isn't going to happen.
    Why not??

    I have no problems moving to Texas. I think it's a great state even though I will always consider myself a Californian at heart.

    Plus I love me some hunky Texan cowboys Texas is a very "macho" state. Even the gay men are more masculine there.....I like reading Dallas Voice to keep tabs on the gay community in Dallas.

    www.dallasvoice.com

    At the rate the economy in CA is going, I may be moving to TX sooner than I thought...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Oh bullshit.

    The problem with the US in its zero sum game of driving the country into the ground through corporate welfare is that off-shore companies will look for the best deal to boost the bottom line. The reason that you have so many people on welfare is precisely because the corporations aren't paying a living wage. As far as the corporations go, many of them feel that they are getting the value out of any taxes they pay by forcing people to have to work two jobs for minimum wage and to use food stamps to fill the gap that a decent wage would provide.

    If California got rid of all its taxes, there would still be a race for Toyota to find the State that would allow them to pay about 5 bucks an hour.

    Stop whining.

    Nope. The jobs lost from Toyota's exit from California are about 6,000 high-paying jobs. These are educated, highly skilled "white collar" jobs in engineering, marketing, product design, development, etc. These are jobs that pay from about $60,000 to $150,000 per year. Toyota said yesterday that they will pay the *same salary* plus a bonus & relocation costs to all employees who wish to move to Plano (suburban Dallas, Texas).

    Toyota's leaving California has big effects for Southern CA and the local economy. Toyota's office space in CA is about 30 acres of buildings; now it will be vacant. All of the local companies that supported Toyota & their employees are nervous because they will have less customers.

    The mayor of Torrance said that he considers himself "pro-business" but he simply couldn't compete with the incentives Texas was offering. He said that the state of California needed to offer something to California to encourage them to stay, but California didn't offer anything.

    What did Texas offer??

    A $40 million dollar investment from the Texas Enterprise Fund (operated by state of TX)
    30 years of corporate tax forgiveness
    Lower cost of living in Dallas for employees
    (30% lower housing costs, cheaper electricity, cheaper gasoline, no state income tax)

    “We’re proud that both the Tundra and Tacoma [pickups] bear the words ‘Made in Texas,’ and we’re excited our state will be the nexus for Toyota’s North American operations moving forward,” Perry said.

    Mike Rosa of the Dallas Regional Chamber said in a statement that business executives such as oilman Ray Hunt and Sean Donahue, chief executive of Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, worked for months on the effort, even though they were unaware of the company’s identity.

    The move will have a huge impact on area housing as well as retail, restaurants and service businesses.

    But it will also pump up sales at Toyota dealerships throughout North Texas, said Pat Lobb, owner of Pat Lobb Toyota in McKinney and one of the area’s largest auto retailers.

    “We’re doing the happy dance over here,” Lobb said. “You’ve got thousands of people and their families moving here, most of them presumably driving Toyotas. There will be a tremendous market-share gain with this.”
    California base

    Toyota started its U.S. operations in California in 1957 and has long seemed an integral part of the state.

    But while the automaker is still highly profitable, it needs to cut costs, analysts said, and California is a tough place to economize.

    Toyota’s U.S. sales fell 1.6 percent in the first quarter. And while it sold almost 2.24 million vehicles last year, that was down more than 14 percent from the company’s U.S. peak in 2007.

    Jack Nerad, a senior analyst at Kelley Blue Book in Irvine, Calif., said the move has to make great economic sense to Toyota, a “very conservative” company.

    Toyota will offer full-time employees and their spouses an expense-paid visit to Plano as well as a lump-sum payment if they choose to relocate, according to Automotive News.

    Texas’ attractions

    Texas landed Toyota because it has no state income tax, lower housing costs, a strong pro-business stance and solid quality-of-life ratings, analysts said.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...s-in-plano.ece
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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    What did Texas offer??

    A $40 million dollar investment from the Texas Enterprise Fund (operated by state of TX)
    30 years of corporate tax forgiveness
    Lower cost of living in Dallas for employees (30% lower housing costs, cheaper electricity, cheaper gasoline, no state income tax)
    So what you are saying is that the taxpayers should provide corporate welfare in order to get jobs which will just move on to the next corporate welfare state that gives them a better deal.

    You are unbelievable.

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    That closet case has one hot streak of luck in folks in denial about the truth!

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Lured by Texas governor Rick Perry & lower taxes, cheaper land, and less regulations - Toyota's headquarters (& all of their upper level personnel) will be moving to suburban Dallas, Texas (Plano). In one fell swoop, that's a loss of over 6,000 desirable jobs from California to Texas.
    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-autos-toyota-motor-texas-move-idUSBREA3R1AF20140428
    Toyota's chief executive for North America, Jim Lentz, said Perry had no role in Toyota's decision to move.

    Perry "is an interesting guy," Lentz said in an interview. "I've never met him. I talked to him on the phone today for the first time. This was never about Governor Perry courting us."
    Quote Originally Posted by http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303939404579529672654374090
    In all, about 3,000 workers from California and 1,000 from Kentucky will transfer to Texas.
    Perry had nothing to do with the decision and only about 3,000 jobs are moving from California to Texas.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    He said that the state of California needed to offer something to California to encourage them to stay, but California didn't offer anything.
    California didn't offer anything because they were never in the running. Toyota had already ruled out California because it was too far from its plants in the Midwest.

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-autos-toyota-motor-texas-move-idUSBREA3R1AF20140428
    The company never gave California a chance to make a counter-offer, Lentz said, adding that it weighed as many as 100 possible sites over the past year.

    "California didn't work out for a number of reasons, especially the distance from our U.S. manufacturing operations," he said. It would have been "disingenuous" to seek an alternative proposal from California.
    Quote Originally Posted by http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303939404579529672654374090
    "We weren't pursued by Texas," Mr. Lentz said. "It isn't a Texas versus California discussion."

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    Re: Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Utterly sad. I guess this is another victory for California Democrats.

    Another major company with California headquarters will be shutting down its operations in California & moving to the Lone Star State.

    Toyota has had its North American headquarters in Southern California since 1957, when they opened their first US dealership in Hollywood, California. They've been based in Torrance, California (a suburb of L.A.), for the past 40 years.

    Until now.

    Lured by Texas governor Rick Perry & lower taxes, cheaper land, and less regulations - Toyota's headquarters (& all of their upper level personnel) will be moving to suburban Dallas, Texas (Plano). In one fell swoop, that's a loss of over 6,000 desirable jobs from California to Texas.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...rters-to-texas

    It's also particularly sad, as Californians probably are Toyota's most loyal customers. Driving around in California, you will seriously see more Toyotas on the road than Fords or Chevys.

    This latest exodus continues the trend of businesses leaving California for red states. Nissan, used to have its North American headquarters in Southern California too, until it moved to Mississippi in 2006. Northrup Grumman (defense contractor) moved all of its operations from Southern California to Northern Virginia in 2010.

    Even California's most famous industries - the film industry in Southern California & the technology industry in Silicon Valley/ Bay area are leaving the state. Companies like Apple are setting up shop in places like Austin, Texas. Film companies are leaving California to go to places like Atlanta, Georgia & Louisiana & North Carolina, where they are offered huge tax breaks.

    Heck, even porn companies are leaving California, probably also because of the new "condoms mandatory in porn" laws in California.

    The Sriracha hot sauce company recently opened a new factory near L.A. but they too want to leave California, for a more business-friendly locale. Apparently 4 people complained about the smell outside the Sriracha factory, so the local city is suing them for damages in court and declared the factory a "public nuisance."

    You seriously can't make this sh*t up.

    Can any of the liberals or Democrats here please explain to me why Democrats hate businesses so much that they impose so many regulations and high taxes on them? And then when those businesses leave (& take good paying jobs with them) to "red" states like Texas, Democrats act shocked & surprised??

    It's huntin' season, Californians. Rick Perry & Republicans from red states are here to poach your jobs.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    So what you are saying is that the taxpayers should provide corporate welfare in order to get jobs which will just move on to the next corporate welfare state that gives them a better deal.

    You are unbelievable.
    indeed, seems the interstate commerce clause could use some support from congress. states rights wont matter. republicans are going to start a trade war between the states to see who can get the cheapest slave labor and tax giveaways.
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    Nope. The jobs lost from Toyota's exit from California are about 6,000 high-paying jobs. These are educated, highly skilled "white collar" jobs in engineering, marketing, product design, development, etc. These are jobs that pay from about $60,000 to $150,000 per year. Toyota said yesterday that they will pay the *same salary* plus a bonus & relocation costs to all employees who wish to move to Plano (suburban Dallas, Texas).

    Toyota's leaving California has big effects for Southern CA and the local economy. Toyota's office space in CA is about 30 acres of buildings; now it will be vacant. All of the local companies that supported Toyota & their employees are nervous because they will have less customers.

    The mayor of Torrance said that he considers himself "pro-business" but he simply couldn't compete with the incentives Texas was offering. He said that the state of California needed to offer something to California to encourage them to stay, but California didn't offer anything.

    What did Texas offer??

    A $40 million dollar investment from the Texas Enterprise Fund (operated by state of TX)
    30 years of corporate tax forgiveness
    Lower cost of living in Dallas for employees
    (30% lower housing costs, cheaper electricity, cheaper gasoline, no state income tax)


    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...s-in-plano.ece
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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    indeed, seems the interstate commerce clause could use some support from congress. states rights wont matter. republicans are going to start a trade war between the states to see who can get the cheapest slave labor and tax giveaways.
    That would be a novel but interesting application of the commerce clause -- and better founded than a lot of recent applications.

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    Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

    Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

    And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

    Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

    And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

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    Come the land of Rick Perry we don't need no regulations of industries in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

    Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

    And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

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    Much of those differences isn't because it's red state v blue state, but rural v urban. Take the house my mom has: move it two hundred miles in the proper direction, and it would be worth half what it is; move it a hundred in a different direction and it would be worth three times what it is. The big difference in those moves is that one would be to an even less dense population area, while the other would be to a much more dense area. My best buddy moved to a place (he inherited a ranch) where my mom's house would be barely worth a quarter what it is here!

    The monetary limitations when you're on public assistance are relics of the Reagan era, and need drastic adjustment because they no longer reflect reality. I know a guy here who's limited to having a car worth $400, which inevitably means he generally has to spend at least a hundred each month to keep it running -- it would actually be more cost effective to allow a car worth $1200, because then he could get one that wouldn't need the constant repairing to keep it moving (another crazy side of the limitation on how valuable a car you can have is that it guarantees that we have old clunker polluters on the road, but that's a different issue!). The rent restrictions are equally crazy; an apartment that falls under the limit in this area tends not to qualify for public housing assistance because it's too small and cramped!

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    I would be cheering if I lived in Texas. I've been thinking about moving to Texas though........Dallas is nice. Lots of big, hunky Texan men ...
    The Republican ones won't date brown foreigners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

    Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

    And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

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    Yeah, I live in a red state too, and unless you live at the ass end of nowhere, the only "house" you're buying for $15,000.00 once belonged to a Barbie.

    I call bullshit on the RV and all the car projects while living off of minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    seeing how the federal minimum wage is 7.25 would you support increasing it?
    I do support a higher minimum wage. I support a living wage. There is no one who should have to work more than one job to support their family.

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Yeah, I live in a red state too, and unless you live at the ass end of nowhere, the only "house" you're buying for $15,000.00 once belonged to a Barbie.

    I call bullshit on the RV and all the car projects while living off of minimum wage.
    Well, I live in the middle of the red state above you. And if you read my post, there is no where in there that it says a new RV. Nor does it say anything more than thinking about a couple of different projects. Not that I was going to get them all. Nor does it say in my post whether or not I have any plans to rent out an extra room or two. It does say that with a cash offer, I have no house payments to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    has nothing to do with democrats, and everything to do with the republican desire to rob every taxpayer and give that money to corporations. republicans will not be happy until every competitor is gone. they are against free markets, and its something congress can address.
    As long as there's a black guy in the White House, Congress will address diddley squat.

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    Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why not??

    I have no problems moving to Texas. I think it's a great state even though I will always consider myself a Californian at heart.

    Plus I love me some hunky Texan cowboys Texas is a very "macho" state. Even the gay men are more masculine there.....I like reading Dallas Voice to keep tabs on the gay community in Dallas.

    www.dallasvoice.com

    At the rate the economy in CA is going, I may be moving to TX sooner than I thought...
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    I'm not going to worry about California much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

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    Your analogy makes no sense.

    Now if you get cancer again in your current red state then compare with your previous experiences. You can base them on state programs not federal. See where you would be if cancer strikes you as it did in the blue state. The state that covered your treatment and $10 - 30,000 a month chemo bill. See what you would qualify for where you live now, and how much if any SSI or Medicaid you will get as a single adult. It appears you didn't get SSDI or Medicare with your illness.

    I think you will understand you would or will be in far worse shape should you experience the same sort of medical disaster where you live now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Your analogy makes no sense.

    Now if you get cancer again in your current red state then compare with your previous experiences. You can base them on state programs not federal. See where you would be if cancer strikes you as it did in the blue state. The state that covered your treatment and $10 - 30,000 a month chemo bill. See what you would qualify for where you live now, and how much if any SSI or Medicaid you will get as a single adult. It appears you didn't get SSDI or Medicare with your illness.

    I think you will understand you would or will be in far worse shape should you experience the same sort of medical disaster where you live now.
    Maybe his point was that neither 'color' state treats people with real dignity.

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