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    Re: I got a new hip

    Maybe we rename the thread to the Kulindahr Appreciation Thread.
    Or, Kuli's Place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Maybe we rename the thread to the Kulindahr Appreciation Thread.
    Or, Kuli's Place.
    I like "Kuli's Place".

    Dang it -- forgot to take some pics today. I took weeds and mulch and rotting wood out to one of the trail embankments to enhance the moisture retention the ferns and seedling and poppies need. The little fern that was doing so well last week looked a bit dehydrated today, so I added some mulch to the trail by it and then sand on to top hold the moisture from the mulch in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    I think this would be the appopriate place
    This is supposed to be about my hip.....

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    Re: I got a new hip

    So we modify the purpose to being about ALL of you, not just your hip. . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post

    This is supposed to be about my hip.....
    I think it is appropriate
    This should be about your hip and how you can/have overcome its limitations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I like "Kuli's Place".

    Dang it -- forgot to take some pics today. I took weeds and mulch and rotting wood out to one of the trail embankments to enhance the moisture retention the ferns and seedling and poppies need. The little fern that was doing so well last week looked a bit dehydrated today, so I added some mulch to the trail by it and then sand on to top hold the moisture from the mulch in.

    This is supposed to be about my hip.....
    I thought this was supposed to about your hip.
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    Frank,
    Hip's healing, life goes on - He still hasn't posted a pic of his scar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    I think it is appropriate
    This should be about your hip and how you can/have overcome its limitations
    It's the other hip giving limitations, now. Like today, just to get back out of the dunes I had to munch a cannabis brownie and take three oxies.

    Now I'm mildly hallucinating . . . the screen looks like it's alive or something, and as the letters appear when I type it looks like they're popping through from behind/inside the screen.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Frank,
    Hip's healing, life goes on - He still hasn't posted a pic of his scar.
    I keep forgetting to put it on the 'puter from my phone.

    I should also post a pic of my lower legs when I have the shoe with the lift it in on.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: I got a new hip

    Sounds about right.


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    Re: I got a new hip

    woke up, rolled out of bed... right hip collapsed under me

    three Tylenol later, I can walk on it -- now it's time for a cannabis cookie, a ginger brew, and lunch, then off to the conservation effort

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    woke up, rolled out of bed... right hip collapsed under me
    The right one is the bad one now? Am I right?

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    Are you sure you want to wait until October for the second hip?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    woke up, rolled out of bed... right hip collapsed under me

    three Tylenol later, I can walk on it -- now it's time for a cannabis cookie, a ginger brew, and lunch, then off to the conservation effort
    love the new avatar - sorry about the hip. donquixote makes good sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    love the new avatar -
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    The right one is the bad one now? Am I right?
    Yep.

    I got my pain med regime just right today! After those three extra-strength Tylenol, like an hour after, I popped a cannabis capsule. I was walking almost normally! Then when I got to the parking lot from which we access the conservation area, I took two regular Tylenol. At the first twinge from the hip, I popped an oxie as a preventative. And just before heading in for the day, I munched a cannabis brownie. So aside from the issue this morning and then getting out of the truck after driving home, I was basically pain-free.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Are you sure you want to wait until October for the second hip?
    Our best "summer" weather is often in September, and I want to be able to enjoy it, not convalesce in it.

    After today's perfect run with pain meds, I think I've got the balance (though I probably should have eaten only half of the brownie) down pretty close. If I can stay pretty much pain-free, I want to enjoy the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    love the new avatar - sorry about the hip. donquixote makes good sense.
    I'll just have to remember to land more lightly and slowly than this morning.

    BTW, working out in the dunes is great if the hip goes out on me -- most of the time I can have a soft landing.

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    Kuli,
    Check with your doc on the Tylenol - taking too much of that can be a LOT worse than an extra Ibuprofen or aspirin.
    Check the side effects on-line - I it can cause irreversible liver damage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_toxicity


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Yep.

    I got my pain med regime just right today! After those three extra-strength Tylenol, like an hour after, I popped a cannabis capsule. I was walking almost normally! Then when I got to the parking lot from which we access the conservation area, I took two regular Tylenol. At the first twinge from the hip, I popped an oxie as a preventative. And just before heading in for the day, I munched a cannabis brownie. So aside from the issue this morning and then getting out of the truck after driving home, I was basically pain-free.
    You may be able to medicate to hold the pain at bay but you have to think about how much more damage is being done to your bad hip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Our best "summer" weather is often in September, and I want to be able to enjoy it, not convalesce in it.
    I think you have proved that you don't need as much extreme convalescence as you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    You may be able to medicate to hold the pain at bay but you have to think about how much more damage is being done to your bad hip
    Indeed, but not with my hip. With me, it was (and still is) my back. I could easily have become an alcoholic or a druggie, but I know my limits with my back and, when I reach it, I stop. However, with alcohol especially, it made me oblivious to the pain and I would go way over my limits and end up in such pain that it would lay me up for days. That's one of the reasons I haven't had even a sip of alcohol of any kind in over 2 decades.

    It can become a vicious, vicious circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Indeed, but not with my hip. With me, it was (and still is) my back. I could easily have become an alcoholic or a druggie, but I know my limits with my back and, when I reach it, I stop. However, with alcohol especially, it made me oblivious to the pain and I would go way over my limits and end up in such pain that it would lay me up for days. That's one of the reasons I haven't had even a sip of alcohol of any kind in over 2 decades.

    It can become a vicious, vicious circle.
    This is the problem with any injury or medical deficiency
    As typical males we tend to hope it gets better on its own or we can pop a few pills to cover up the pain.
    I am currently about to have surgery to address osteoarthritis in my shoulders.
    I have put off going to a doctor for months but have finally faced the fact that I need some intervention.
    I have been told that the surgery and recovery is much more complicated than having your hips done so I am unsure how it will pan out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I popped a cannabis capsule. I was walking almost normally!

    I munched a cannabis brownie.
    What do you do about the "high" part? Doesn't that intrude on what you may be trying to do, perhaps you would prefer not to be high...or are you using a strain that is less THC-potent but still retaining the other therapeutic ingredients? I would not want to need to depend on pot to manage my pain, because if I'm high I simply get nothing done...ever.

    Some people get a lot done when high, so my experience is not a universal one.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    with alcohol especially, it made me oblivious to the pain and I would go way over my limits and end up in such pain that it would lay me up for days.
    That's why, in the very rare instances I've been subject to some kind of pain management [NOT SINCE 2003], I actually used the meds only when it became intolerable. When I had a kidney removed in 2003, the doctors were very surprised that I "pushed the morphine button" only three or four times during recuperation. Even if I don't like it, I realize that pain is a signal, and I want to know that I'm not going past my limit and harming myself in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Kuli,
    Check with your doc on the Tylenol - taking too much of that can be a LOT worse than an extra Ibuprofen or aspirin.
    Check the side effects on-line - I it can cause irreversible liver damage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_toxicity
    I'm phasing out the Tylenol, trying to replace it with CBDs -- former physical therapist friend says it should actually work better.

    I wasn't sure what CBDs were, so I'll share this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol
    http://canchewbiotech.com/index.php/...gement-and-cbd

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    You may be able to medicate to hold the pain at bay but you have to think about how much more damage is being done to your bad hip
    Unless I totally shatter the femur, the damage is to an extent irrelevant: the hip needs replaced anyway. Besides that, it's still nowhere as bad as the other one was!

    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    I think you have proved that you don't need as much extreme convalescence as you think
    Heh -- yeah, "but...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Indeed, but not with my hip. With me, it was (and still is) my back. I could easily have become an alcoholic or a druggie, but I know my limits with my back and, when I reach it, I stop. However, with alcohol especially, it made me oblivious to the pain and I would go way over my limits and end up in such pain that it would lay me up for days. That's one of the reasons I haven't had even a sip of alcohol of any kind in over 2 decades.

    It can become a vicious, vicious circle.
    I've had that problem the couple of days I've had to pop some oxies to make it through an afternoon of conservation work. But I'm working out a rhythm: a day of heavy work gets followed by one of light work, then mixed, then light, then one off if I feel the need. A light day can mean just a small load of materials or none at all; so far it usually means hauling a couple of bushel baskets of lawn clippings out to put around pioneer clumps of beach grass (an effort that along with watering them with 'compost tea' is having impressive effects) -- though the last time what I hauled was one bushel basket of clippings and a huge contractor trash bag of mixed hay and straw from the farm store's bale warehouse... it took up most of my bike trailer and didn't weigh even fifteen pounds.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    What do you do about the "high" part? Doesn't that intrude on what you may be trying to do, perhaps you would prefer not to be high...or are you using a strain that is less THC-potent but still retaining the other therapeutic ingredients? I would not want to need to depend on pot to manage my pain, because if I'm high I simply get nothing done...ever.

    Some people get a lot done when high, so my experience is not a universal one.
    So long as I'm not totally stoned out of my mind it actually contributes to the experience, as far as conservation work. "Augmenting" nature is very meditative for me anyway, and the mellowness is a bonus.

    It doesn't work if what I'm doing is too complex. For example, I probably wouldn't want to scout out a route for a new trail, or build a fence, but I have plenty to do that doesn't rise to that level of complexity. The issue is losing track of what I'm doing, so if it's simple and familiar there's no real issue -- in fact it sort of forces me to evaluate often!

    And when the weather's good, Bammer makes a decent pillow and I can stare at the surf or sky.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    That's why, in the very rare instances I've been subject to some kind of pain management [NOT SINCE 2003], I actually used the meds only when it became intolerable. When I had a kidney removed in 2003, the doctors were very surprised that I "pushed the morphine button" only three or four times during recuperation. Even if I don't like it, I realize that pain is a signal, and I want to know that I'm not going past my limit and harming myself in the process.
    I'm actually having days when just a cannabis capsule in the morning and a CBD cap in the afternoon gets me by. I carry brownies to nibble in case, and oxies for backup.


    The worst day lately was when I went out crabbing, and the friend driving the boat just cut loose once we were out of the no-wake zone. The boat went slamming, wham-wham-wham, across the choppy bay, at which point it didn't matter if I was sitting or standing or what, both hips got pummeled. So I took over driving, and made him deal with the crab pots. That night, even with a soak, I had trouble getting comfortable enough to sleep.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    I just got told that before getting my other hip done, I have to go to all the same classes again. Idiotic!

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    Because things might have changed in 4 months.
    Or, maybe they want you to be a poster boy for the procedure?!


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    Kuli, what are the classes about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Kuli, what are the classes about?
    How to move with the new hip while it's healing, is what it comes down to.

    Like I'd have forgotten all that already....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I just got told that before getting my other hip done, I have to go to all the same classes again. Idiotic!
    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Kuli, what are the classes about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    How to move with the new hip while it's healing, is what it comes down to.

    Like I'd have forgotten all that already....
    Mine was more of a 'crash course'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    How to move with the new hip while it's healing, is what it comes down to.
    Oh, we don't get those. I had occupational therapists instruct me on how to get about and do stuff while the hip healed and loosened up. I guess that is the same thing

    It has just occurred to me that, you being in the US, it is probably a money making thing dreamt up between the surgeons and therapists
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Mine was more of a 'crash course'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Oh, we don't get those. I had occupational therapists instruct me on how to get about and do stuff while the hip healed and loosened up. I guess that is the same thing

    It has just occurred to me that, you being in the US, it is probably a money making thing dreamt up between the surgeons and therapists
    No, it's probably required in order to satisfy liability requirements for the bloody insurance companies.

    I once got out of a bill like that by writing "services not requested" and mailing it back. Never heard from them again.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Gotta give it to Neil - putting a positive spin on a rather less than pleasant circumstance.


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    No, it's probably required in order to satisfy liability requirements for the bloody insurance companies.
    I hadn't thought of that. But of course you do come from the land that invented Compensation Culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    I hadn't thought of that. But of course you do come from the land that invented Compensation Culture
    Never heard of "Compensation Culture". But yeah, all kinds of things here are driven by liability issues.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Mine was more of a 'crash course'.

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    Arrgh -- I just got that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Never heard of "Compensation Culture". But yeah, all kinds of things here are driven by liability issues.
    Compensation Culture was 'invented' in America
    In 1994, a 79-year-old American woman who spilt a McDonald's coffee over her groin area suffering 3rd degree burns was awarded nearly $3million damages by a jury.

    She was in a moving car at the time, but McDonald's admitted they had been serving coffee at temperatures of 180 to 190 degrees fahrenheit, which was far above the norm.

    The amount of compensation was later reduced on appeal.


    This is the case that is said to have kick started the ridiculous compensation culture whereby everything is always somebody else's fault and someone can always be made to pay

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    This is the case that is said to have kick started the ridiculous compensation culture whereby everything is always somebody else's fault and someone can always be made to pay
    There was nothing ridiculous about it, and the compensation should not have been reduced.

    . . . The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body, including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds refused.

    During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. . . .
    debridement |diˈbrēdmənt|
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    Third-degree burns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Compensation Culture was 'invented' in America
    In 1994, a 79-year-old American woman who spilt a McDonald's coffee over her groin area suffering 3rd degree burns was awarded nearly $3million damages by a jury.

    She was in a moving car at the time, but McDonald's admitted they had been serving coffee at temperatures of 180 to 190 degrees fahrenheit, which was far above the norm.

    The amount of compensation was later reduced on appeal.


    This is the case that is said to have kick started the ridiculous compensation culture whereby everything is always somebody else's fault and someone can always be made to pay
    The $3mn was ridiculous, but the system worked and the award was reduced to less than a sixth of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    There was nothing ridiculous about it, and the compensation should not have been reduced.
    We don't actually know what the final compensation was, but the $160k + $480k (=$640k) seems plenty.

    I believe he was referring to the sue-for-anything culture as being ridiculous. One of the first things I was told when I found out how bad my hip was was to sue everyone in sight.....

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I believe he was referring to the sue-for-anything culture as being ridiculous. One of the first things I was told when I found out how bad my hip was was to sue everyone in sight.....
    Exactly my point.
    The law allows compensation for being an idiot!
    If you trip over a paving slab because you are not paying attention to where you walk then you sue the local authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Exactly my point.
    The law allows compensation for being an idiot!
    If you trip over a paving slab because you are not paying attention to where you walk then you sue the local authority.
    Don't forget though, for a lot of people its a way of covering your medical bills. Still when its used in the UK, it's a real joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Exactly my point.
    The law allows compensation for being an idiot!
    If you trip over a paving slab because you are not paying attention to where you walk then you sue the local authority.
    I think I've related elsewhere on JUB how when a salesman ignored the ICY STEPS / STAY OFF sign my dad had posted and slipped, he sued... so my dad's attorney filed a counter-suit for blood stains on the steps and stress for my dad....

    There's a gal who just moved into an apartment down the street who has sued people seven times, all stupid except the first one, which gave her the idea to do it again.

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    Eight days to another new hip.

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    And it begins again, eh?

    I'm not looking forward to winter. I hated ice before. I hate it a lot more now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Eight days to another new hip.
    The second one is always easier
    You know exactly what to expect but, surprise, surprise, it is nowhere near as bad/difficult
    You will recover quicker on the second one as well
    Also, because you know what to expect there is none of that 'I need to prove to myself that I can still do the things I used to do'
    Good luck

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    I'm glad it's sooner rather than later- for your sake.

    Both hips will be new, the legs will be the same length.

    Just don't go thinking you have to run out to the site a week after your surgery!


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