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    Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Looks like Tesla is having the same problem selling cars in America that Obama has had selling Obamacare, the establishment doesn't want competition or change and spends millions to lobby republicans against consumers.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    What an incredibly unusefull clip, they spend 4 minutes talking about whatever the problem is without ever actually explaining WHAT the problem is. Best I could gather from conversation is that there is some problem with licensing of Tesla dealerships?
    Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    ^^ Maybe this will help.

    Many states have restrictive auto sales laws saying an auto manufacturer cannot sell direct to the public.

    With New Jersey taking action to ban Tesla from selling its cars there, the Garden State has joined with Arizona, Texas, Virginia and Maryland in making law only an auto-dealers association could love. Tesla has a presence in those states, but its “stores” are really nothing of the sort. They are instead “galleries” where its representatives are not salespeople and cannot tell you what the car costs, nor can they actually help you purchase one.

    http://www.justusboys.com/forum/thre...t-free-markets
    The state's [New Jersey] motor vehicle commission blocked Tesla's ability to sell electric cars through its own retailers, so Tesla CEO Elon Musk is urging buyers to visit the company's locations in New York City and Philadelphia.

    http://time.com/25946/tesla-nj-sales-ban/
    However, in those states you may still purchase on-line.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    So much for the great invisible hand.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    ... the topic of the thread is a lie. How are republicans against the free market?

    Remove the thread or change the topic.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Seems more an example of the problems with government regulation overall, I'm sure these regulatory systems started out to protect the public from predatory car dealers and was quickly corrupted by the powers that be in the industry seeking to use those self same regulatory systems to give them a benefit over their competitors. Its a problem bigger than any one party.

    So is the proposed solution to this to deregulate the automotive industry?
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    You're sure of that are you, I'm sure that car dealers paid some politicians to get monopolies.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ... the topic of the thread is a lie. How are republicans against the free market?

    Remove the thread or change the topic.
    Temper, temper!

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    You're sure of that are you, I'm sure that car dealers paid some politicians to get monopolies.
    Exactly so
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Republicans are forcing the middle man onto consumers, with markups, kickbacks, the works. Republicans in Jersey are refusing to allow Tesla to sell their products to consumers = Republicans against free markets, republicans against competition.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    The thread is a hoax and gives wrong and misleading information.

    Moderator -- please remove.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Somebody get Jack a juice box, he's getting fussy.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Somebody get Jack a juice box, he's getting fussy.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Remove the thread or change the topic.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    Did you buy JustUsBoys when we weren't looking?
    The thread head is against the CofC. It promotes a lie.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Well it is slightly misleading in trying to paint this as a Republican plot of some sort. This is established auto companies using their money and influence to manipulate regulation in their favor. History shows they can and will use that influence on both parties. Most industry lobbying is spent on both parties with the amounts being spent on one or the other varying with how the two parties shift in power from one election to the next.
    Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ... the topic of the thread is a lie
    My how the tables have turned.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The thread is a hoax and gives wrong and misleading information.

    Moderator -- please remove.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The thread head is against the CofC. It promotes a lie.
    Hoax? Hardly.

    Overstated? Yes, but you're familiar with that. Jealous that someone is treading on your territory?


    Tesla should be allowed to market as they please. If they want to build a giant airship filled with cars and drift from place to place, that should be fine as well.

    I think the "regular" automakers are a bit scared of Musk.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Still no proof that this is a republican caused problem.

    Please show how republicans are against the free market in this case or change the heading.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    turns out, it may actually be the Democrat-controlled State Legislature that's keeping Tesla out of the state.

    "I'm not pushing Tesla out; the state Legislature did," Christie said. "They passed a law — which is still on the books — which says if you want to sell cars in this state, you must go through an authorized dealer. My job is not to make the laws, it's to enforce the laws. And Tesla was operating outside the law."

    Christie said he tried to warn the company that they were breaking the law.

    "I have no problem with Tesla selling directly to customers, except that it's against the law in New Jersey"
    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...incart_m-rpt-1

    still seems like an awful lot of fuss for a $100,000 car that only the 1% will be able to afford regardless.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by darden View Post
    turns out, it may actually be the Democrat-controlled State Legislature that's keeping Tesla out of the state.



    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...incart_m-rpt-1

    still seems like an awful lot of fuss for a $100,000 car that only the 1% will be able to afford regardless.
    ... and yet silent moderators will not change the heading or remove the thread.

    Which makes this a JUB sanctioned baiting thread.

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    God you're acting like whiny little bitch right now! If you have nothing to add to the actual thread, stop menstruating about the title and gtfo!
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Well it is slightly misleading in trying to paint this as a Republican plot of some sort. This is established auto companies using their money and influence to manipulate regulation in their favor. History shows they can and will use that influence on both parties. Most industry lobbying is spent on both parties with the amounts being spent on one or the other varying with how the two parties shift in power from one election to the next.
    The money seems to be coming from car dealers and their associations – not manufacturers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ... the topic of the thread is a lie. How are republicans against the free market?
    Maybe it’s a coincidence, but recent affirmation of restrictions prohibiting direct sale are arguably more successful in states with Republican legislatures. New Jersey represents an exception to that premise. The argument (or spin) with regard to Republicans and free markets is reasonable. Rather than simply deny its validity, you should present a solid counter argument.


    [T]he Texas Legislature is overwhelmingly Republican.

    However, it's also kind of funny considering these are the same people who claim to be pro-business, pro-capitalism and pro-free market. What would really be the harm of letting carmakers sell direct, besides politicians' car dealer money faucet getting turned off?

    How Petty Money Politics Crushed Tesla In Texas (Jalopnik; September 2013)

    New effort in Ohio to ban Tesla’s model for dealerships (The Columbus Dispatch; February 2014)

    Ohio Republicans, Car Dealers Try To Ban Tesla Sales Again (GAS2 {car blog}; cites The Columbus Dispatch article linked above)


    Note: I did not watch the video in the opening post, but instead read the original poster’s single sentence summary of its content.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    … the establishment doesn't want competition or change …
    Okay, I watched the video (directly linked segment excluding any content after the commercial break).

    Please elaborate a bit more to explain exactly who or what is “the establishment.”

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    So it's Democrats at fault here, but the thread title is still true.

    Fascinating, how much politicians act alike when there's money involved.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    The money seems to be coming from car dealers and their associations – not manufacturers.




    Maybe it’s a coincidence, but recent affirmation of restrictions prohibiting direct sale are arguably more successful in states with Republican legislatures. New Jersey represents an exception to that premise. The argument (or spin) with regard to Republicans and free markets is reasonable. Rather than simply deny its validity, you should present a solid counter argument.





    New effort in Ohio to ban Tesla’s model for dealerships (The Columbus Dispatch; February 2014)

    Ohio Republicans, Car Dealers Try To Ban Tesla Sales Again (GAS2 {car blog}; cites The Columbus Dispatch article linked above)


    Note: I did not watch the video in the opening post, but instead read the original poster’s single sentence summary of its content.
    No solid argument is needed -- only truth that the thread is based on something that is not correct.

    This is a baiting thread and since it fits within the belief structure of most JUB members .. it stands.

    The thread is about New Jersey .. not Ohio.

    Funny a bunch of liberals supporting the wants of the 1% -- unless you realize that liberals make up a large, if not a majority of the 1%.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Let's talk for a quick second about something substantive relating to the topic of car manufacturers selling directly to the consumer.

    Where does one take a vehicle for any service-related issues? IF I purchased in a state with no direct-sell dealer of that particular brand, do I take it back to the manufacturing facility/factory?

    I apologize in advance Mr. Springer if I've interrupted your flow...

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
    Let's talk for a quick second about something substantive relating to the topic of car manufacturers selling directly to the consumer.

    Where does one take a vehicle for any service-related issues? IF I purchased in a state with no direct-sell dealer of that particular brand, do I take it back to the manufacturing facility/factory?

    I apologize in advance Mr. Springer if I've interrupted your flow...
    Tesla has dedicated service centers -- http://www.teslamotors.com/findus

    of course, if you're living in Montana and your Tesla dies, you're probably SOL until you can arrange for a tow out to Seattle.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
    Let's talk for a quick second about something substantive relating to the topic of car manufacturers selling directly to the consumer.

    Where does one take a vehicle for any service-related issues? IF I purchased in a state with no direct-sell dealer of that particular brand, do I take it back to the manufacturing facility/factory?

    I apologize in advance Mr. Springer if I've interrupted your flow...
    I have no problem with manufacturers selling directly to the public. However, I do have a problem when facts are misstated and adjusted to meet the needs of someone to make a point and tell lies.

    You're welcome Miss MisterB.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I have no problem with manufacturers selling directly to the public. However, I do have a problem when facts are misstated and adjusted to meet the needs of someone to make a point and tell lies.
    You only have a problem when it's lies you don't approve of.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    You only have a problem when it's lies you don't approve of.
    Mr. Know-it-all. I don't like lies.

    Did you read a couple of hours on Tesla and now have a doctorate in Tesla?

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    good news... Chris Christie, obvious hater of Tesla cars and the free market at large, has given them a 2-week reprieve so that the State legislature can have time to update the 1970's law that's forcing them out of the state.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf..._river_default

    With days to go before it was to be banned from selling cars in New Jersey, Gov. Chris Christie’s administration has given Tesla a short reprieve.

    The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission will allow the electric car manufacturer to keep selling vehicles at its two New Jersey showrooms until April 15th, it announced today...

    Assemblyman Tim Eustace (D-Bergen), who drives an electric car, said he believes Assembly leaders are open to fast-tracking his bill (A3096) that would allow manufacturers of zero-emission vehicles to sell directly to New Jersey consumers by exempting them from the franchise rules.

    Although the Assembly doesn’t have any meetings scheduled in that time frame, Eustace said members were already aware they might have to return to Trenton to deal with other pressing issues. He noted that Assembly Majority Lou Greenwald (D-Camden) has signed on as a sponsor.

    “That may help. Maybe we’ll get something done in 15 days,” Eustace said. “The governor said in one of his town halls last week that he wanted a solution to this. I’ll take him at his word.”

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Good for Christie -- and Assemblyman Eustace.

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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    this thread has played out pretty much as i expected, when you say something true it outrages the ones you expect to. i did hear a large amount of conceit on the republican side, as the truth usually brings out.

    i will clarify that i stand by what i said, republicans are against the free market in this case, and in many others across the country.

    the only reason Christie gives a damn about it now is because of the MSNBC coverage, hes at his weakest point politically and had no choice but to capitulate when faced with another scandal.

    and to further clarify those who want to muddy the waters and say both political parties do this, which is one of the weakest political arguments in the book (it never works) in this case that a bald faced lie. i looked up the top 2014 campaign contribution recipients from the auto dealers association, 80% of them were republicans and looky there, 80% of all dealer association money went to the GOP.

    if republicans were for free markets, they wouldn't have taken the money.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...2014&ind=T2300
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Well it is slightly misleading in trying to paint this as a Republican plot of some sort. This is established auto companies using their money and influence to manipulate regulation in their favor. History shows they can and will use that influence on both parties. Most industry lobbying is spent on both parties with the amounts being spent on one or the other varying with how the two parties shift in power from one election to the next.
    i never said it was a GOP "plot". these laws exist because the GOP passed them.
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    Re: Telsa runs into same Obamacare problem: Republicans are against free markets

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    i never said it was a GOP "plot". these laws exist because the GOP passed them.
    IIRC someone documented that these laws have been passed by both parties.

    But at the moment it appears that it's Democrats moving to correct them.

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