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    Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    As I mentioned in this post, Finland started debate today on a new marriage bill. The language barrier makes it somewhat difficult to track exactly what is going on so any Finnish speakers are welcome to help.

    Finnish Parliament failed to advance a bill last year after the committee killed it by one vote. However, Finland's constitution allows for citizen initiatives that must be debated if they get the required signatures. Tahdon2013 led the way and got 166,000, more than the 50k that was required.

    After today's first reading, the bill will be referred to committee.

    Milla Halme from Tahdon2013 thinks that full Parliament will eventually be allowed to vote around April or May.

    The other Nordic countries with equal marriage are Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Iceland. This law appears to be passing eventually in every European country west of the Iron Curtain.
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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Will this really happen with Putin just next door?

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Will this really happen with Putin just next door?
    Norway touches Russia on the Barents Sea.

    That will make two countries with equal marriage bordering Russia.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Luxembourg is also poised to pass it at around the same time.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    The bill has been sent to the Legal Affairs Committee, the same one that rejected the previous bill 9-8.

    The ruling National Coalition, which dominates that committee, endorsed same sex marriage in 2010. In light of the public demand for the petition, I am optimistic that the committee will forward the proposal.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Will this really happen with Putin just next door?
    Why should the Finns care?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    We have the votes.

    One survey found 108 yes votes out of 199 members of Parliament. It's slim, but enough.

    Survey: Majority of MPs in favor of equal marriage law

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Respect for marriage equality generates respect for diversity and all minorities.

    One could rightfully ask why is legalizing gay marriage important for Finland. The answer to this question is clear because there is a direct relationship with the ongoing debate on our ever-growing cultural diversity and how minorities should be accepted and respected in this country.

    ...

    When the new law is passed, not only will gays benefit from it but other minorities in our society. It will lead and fuel the long-overdue recognition and respect due to all minorities living in Finland.

    Passage of gay marriage law will benefit all minorities in Finland

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Twitter via @Tahdon2013

    Public consultation will be held in committee on March 13.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Hopefully the finnish of this story is a happy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    Hopefully the finnish of this story is a happy one.
    I see what you did there

    To put things into perspective, the bill which failed last year only had 76 public supporters, so support has climbed quickly.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Bill passes UNANIMOUSLY out of committee. Public hearing scheduled for March 13th:

    http://yle.fi/uutiset/parliamentary_...rch_13/7112669

    Once again, it's amazing how much of a difference just one year has made.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    The Legal Affairs Committee will conduct a public consultation tomorrow between 10:00 and 11:30 AM (4:00 - 5:30 EST)

    http://web.eduskunta.fi/Resource.phx.../1.htx?id=6407

    Direct link to the LIVE Video will be available at the link below:

    http://desk.qbrick.com/eduskunta/pla...ase?id=2492997

    I know we have one Finnish speaker here Chrizze. Hopefully he will be around to help translate some of the news there.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    The Legal Affairs Committee has asked for expert testimony.

    They will meet next on 3/26

    http://www.eduskunta.fi/faktatmp/uta...2_2014_p.shtml

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    The Legal Affairs Committee will hold a vote on Wednesday, June 25

    http://web.eduskunta.fi/Resource.phx...av01/index.htx

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    Here's hoping for equality!

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    A great sign is that their new Prime Minister is a vocal supporter of same-sex marriage. Also, a poll this year showed a 7 point increase in support from the previous year, standing at 65%.

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    Re: Finland Reopens Debate on Marriage

    The initiative was voted down 10-6 by conservative members still living in the dark ages, but tahdon2013 reports on twitter that parliament will still vote in the fall.

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