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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    The last little while, things have changed here. Most of the friendly guys I've chatted with have moved on and what's left aren't really LGBT inclusive at all. It seems most are bi-phobic and vagina haters. Treat everyone who isn't a 100% gay male like a second class citizen. I especially don't like the bashing of women and their genetalia. How can anyone justify that? It's ok because you're gay men?
    Being on here has really opened my eyes the the gay male world. And I don't think I want a part of it anymore. There was a time when I considered calling myself gay, but not anymore. I'll stick to the more inclusive bi community. Obviously expecting inclusivity is not a reality here anymore. Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    I originally joined JUB to connect with other members of the LGBT community, in the hope that I would find greater acceptance among my own kind
    That's the elephant in the room. Most of us have no more in common than any other random group of people other than we all like dudes. That's it. Being gay doesn't make us all identical on anything else, not even our politics.

    And what would be the fun of a site anyway if you went to it and everyone agreed with 100% of what you said on 100% of topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    That's the elephant in the room. Most of us have no more in common than any other random group of people other than we all like dudes. That's it. Being gay doesn't make us all identical on anything else, not even our politics.

    And what would be the fun of a site anyway if you went to it and everyone agreed with 100% of what you said on 100% of topics.
    I'm not saying that all gay people should have the same opinion, I know it doesn't work like that, but what shocks me the most is the vindictiveness and aggression in the tone of some members' posts. It's like you can literally feel the hatred spewing from their lips. I mean, what is with all the nastiness around here, can't we all just try to get along? We are already part of a minority group that experiences a great deal of bullying and discrimination from society as a whole, and we certainly don't need it to come from within the LGBT community itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    I'm not saying that all gay people should have the same opinion, I know it doesn't work like that, but what shocks me the most is the vindictiveness and aggression in the tone of some members' posts. It's like you can literally feel the hatred spewing from their lips. I mean, what is with all the nastiness around here, can't we all just try to get along? We are already part of a minority group that experiences a great deal of bullying and discrimination from society as a whole and we certainly don't need more of it from within the LGBT community itself.
    Dude not even everyone on this site supports gay marriage.

    How do you expect this kind of solidarity you're implying should be here?

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Well 24 hours later and he's still here.
    Some people just leave. Others like to create a drama first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Dude not even everyone on this site supports gay marriage.

    How do you expect this kind of solidarity you're implying should be here?
    As the saying goes; "united we stand, divided we fall", and personally, I think that applies to the LGBT community as well. Whilst we have our differences, we should be able to put those differences aside and come together to achieve equality, and by not standing united, we will undermine ourselves in the eyes of those who wish to deprive us of our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    As the saying goes; "united we stand, divided we fall", and personally, I think that applies to the LGBT community as well. Whilst we have our differences, we should be able to put those differences aside and come together to achieve equality, and by not standing united, we will undermine ourselves in the eyes of those who wish to deprive us of our rights.
    I agree with you. But I think the broader community should be able to say the same thing about fossil fuels and public healthcare.

    Unfortunately it's not that easy.

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    I agree with Rareboy, you have been on the receiving end of the benevolence of many JUBbers in the past. Count your blessings instead of offenses.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    JUB is what you make it and a lot of that has to do with what threads you visit. Generally if I see a thread about race or about bisexuality I avoid it because I've already read what most people have to say about it. I stick to the topics that interest me or make my own if there's something on my mind. I usually stay away from the controversial ones, unless I feel I have something to add that hasn't been said and that I haven't said before in a different thread.

    Hell, I don't even go to Current Events much anymore because the fighting over there got old.

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    I can't leave. I love this place and most of the guys here are truly amazing. Thank you so much for the kind words of encouragement. The PM's I got are so touching, I will try to learn from all your collective knowledge.

    I can take the hetero and bi bashing threads, not everyone shares the same ideas and I'm totally cool with that. That's why I'm here, to gain insight. But I do not like the female and vagina bashing. Geez, all your mothers have one and that's how you got here, show a little respect. They are the most important half of the amazing human reproductive system. None of us would be here without them. Male or female, we are all human and deserving of a certain level of respect, no matter what your sexual preference.

    But what I don't like the most is the petty intellectual potshots that go on. If you don't like their ideas, you have to immediately attack their education? Please. That is the cheapest of intellect around and I won't stoop to that level. You and I can waive our degrees in each other's faces and prove absolutely nothing. This is the internet. So yeah, I won't do that. If anyone with a PhD publishes a book on their theory, I will respectfully read it and take from it what works for me. I don't try to discredit their life's work. Another huge cheap shot, especially since "anonymous" you doesn't present a better option because you can't. You just spew your verbal diarrhea and shout insults the loudest to get them to back down. And, though I know this is the internet, might is not right. You just end up looking like an asshole. So to the "you" who keeps PMing me, FUCK OFF already. You're an asshole and and an idiot. Leave me alone. I actually think you're sick in the head for needing to be told you're right. You are not. You are a sad freak.

    Otherwise, I ain't going too far. I'll take the other's wise advice and maybe just sit back and watch a bit, but I just wanted to say thank you for all the nice comments. Much appreciated.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    I can't leave. I love this place and most of the guys here are truly amazing. Thank you so much for the kind words of encouragement. The PM's I got are so touching, I will try to learn from all your collective knowledge.

    I can take the hetero and bi bashing threads, not everyone shares the same ideas and I'm totally cool with that. That's why I'm here, to gain insight. But I do not like the female and vagina bashing. Geez, all your mothers have one and that's how you got here, show a little respect. They are the most important half of the amazing human reproductive system. None of us would be here without them. Male or female, we are all human and deserving of a certain level of respect, no matter what your sexual preference.

    But what I don't like the most is the petty intellectual potshots that go on. If you don't like their ideas, you have to immediately attack their education? Please. That is the cheapest of intellect around and I won't stoop to that level. You and I can waive our degrees in each other's faces and prove absolutely nothing. This is the internet. So yeah, I won't do that. If anyone with a PhD publishes a book on their theory, I will respectfully read it and take from it what works for me. I don't try to discredit their life's work. Another huge cheap shot, especially since "anonymous" you doesn't present a better option because you can't. You just spew your verbal diarrhea and shout insults the loudest to get them to back down. And, though I know this is the internet, might is not right. You just end up looking like an asshole. So to the "you" who keeps PMing me, FUCK OFF already. You're an asshole and and an idiot. Leave me alone. I actually think you're sick in the head for needing to be told you're right. You are not. You are a sad freak.

    Otherwise, I ain't going too far. I'll take the other's wise advice and maybe just sit back and watch a bit, but I just wanted to say thank you for all the nice comments. Much appreciated.
    I'm glad you're not leaving.

    That being said, this is a primarily gay site and if you post a controversial idea about what causes homosexuality, you have to naturally expect people are going to get heated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I'm glad you're not leaving.

    That being said, this is a primarily gay site and if you post a controversial idea about what causes homosexuality, you have to naturally expect people are going to get heated.
    But you have to remember, there are many degrees of gayness, not everyone is a fanatical homo.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    But you have to remember, there are many degrees of gayness, not everyone is a fanatical homo.
    I don't understand what that has to do with a discussion of what nature or nurture factors influence sexuality. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I don't understand what that has to do with a discussion of what nature or nurture factors influence sexuality. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with it.
    Then you're in the wrong thread.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    You have been thru a rough period. Perhaps your new focus on your family has made you overly sensitive to the issues you mention. Take a breather - and remember that many of us have very negative recollections of mothering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I don't understand what that has to do with a discussion of what nature or nurture factors influence sexuality. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with it.
    you are pretty sure about a lot of things.

    guess you wrong this time

    and it is nature not nurture that creates someones sexual orientation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    You have been thru a rough period. Perhaps your new focus on your family has made you overly sensitive to the issues you mention. Take a breather - and remember that many of us have very negative recollections of mothering.
    You do? I had no idea. Please tell me why? Pm me if you must but I'd like to know too.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    I can't leave. I love this place and most of the guys here are truly amazing. Thank you so much for the kind words of encouragement. The PM's I got are so touching, I will try to learn from all your collective knowledge.
    Mikey, I'm glad you're staying. Even tho you and I haven't communicated much, I read your posts and am glad you're around.

    Don't pay attention to the haters. They're not worth it.

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    Thanks man. Much appreciated.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Am happy to hear this, if only because it saves me the cost of coming to Canada, to kick your arse...

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    But you have to remember, there are many degrees of gayness, not everyone is a fanatical homo.
    Well they should be


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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    So this thread wasn't just a pathetic plea for attention.

    Oh wait.
    That, and for a safety net so he can make his lame arguments that homosexuality has no genetic basis without fear of being criticized by meanies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    you are pretty sure about a lot of things.

    guess you wrong this time

    and it is nature not nurture that creates someones sexual orientation.
    Then you would have disagreed with Mikey in the other thread as well-- no one was bi bashing him but he did have a heated exchange with several members over possible causes of homosexuality.

    So good job leaping into something where you had no clue what was being discussed and disagreeing with yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    Am happy to hear this, if only because it saves me the cost of coming to Canada, to kick your arse...
    Man, you can do anything you want to my arse. I'll pay the ticket.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    not everyone is a fanatical homo.
    well, glad to see that you're staying...but saying things like this is a little insulting.
    "I'll cast a spell that you can't undo...'til you wake up and you find that you love me too..."

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    Well I joined today, let's see if it really is good :hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    So this thread wasn't just a pathetic plea for attention.

    Oh wait.
    It wasn't until you posted in it. Maybe getting a real boy friend will cheer ya up dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin View Post
    That, and for a safety net so he can make his lame arguments that homosexuality has no genetic basis without fear of being criticized by meanies.
    And BAM! There he is. The retard who tries to belittle others to make himself feel important. Until you can prove anything, your opinion to anyone doesn't mean shit. So go back to your little arm chair, asshole. You are the main reason I'm staying. Just to piss you off at every fucking post you make. You have no back ground to prove shit. So suck it!
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    So you're calling people fanatical homos and retards now while saying we're all the ones who sink to some unacceptable level?

    OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    .... Maybe getting a real boy friend will cheer ya up dude.
    Classy

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    Dude, it's you and your alter ego who want to drive others away. Not gonna work here man. Post all the hate you want. You aren't real anyway, and most know it. You need to show more love to your better half. He's hurting.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Quote function.

    Use it.

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    hmmmmmmm.

    I think it is time for everyone to step back and breathe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    You really should name this mysterious "YOU" or at the very least report him to the mods....
    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    hmmmmmmm.

    I think it is time for everyone to step back and breathe.

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    So baby just needed his bottle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeDigitalLove View Post
    So baby just needed his bottle?
    which baby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    which baby?
    I thought it was you and Belamo's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    which baby?
    Learn to figure things out yourself young one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I thought it was you and Belamo's.
    I must admit I would like to have a connection with that fascinating man of Barcelona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    But you have to remember, there are many degrees of gayness, not everyone is a fanatical homo.
    That is it!

    Are you even bisexual? Because every comment of yours makes me believe you're a troll with an agenda here.

    There are a lot of fake 'homosexuals' in gay forums just like the fake female profiles in YouTube commenting against feminism and when I look at all your post, you look like one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    And BAM! There he is. The retard who tries to belittle others to make himself feel important. Until you can prove anything, your opinion to anyone doesn't mean shit. So go back to your little arm chair, asshole. You are the main reason I'm staying. Just to piss you off at every fucking post you make. You have no back ground to prove shit. So suck it!
    Well, I certainly don't seek to belittle others, and I'm not sure whatever made you think that's what I do. Further, I even explained to you why I'm very passionate about the causes of homosexuality so you know damn well none of what I said to you was with any sort of malice. So with that in mind, care to explain the reason for that ax you have to grind?

    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    You really should name this mysterious "YOU" or at the very least report him to the mods
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I mean, the first part of that sounded like he was talking about me, but then there was all this crap about "Anonymous", and PMing which I didn't do. So I'm like, "Wait, is this bait?" and decided to wait a bit on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    and it is nature not nurture that creates someones sexual orientation.
    I think nature contributes factors which can range from a "propensity to become gay" to a near-certainty of being so. I don't think it's the same in everybody, not at all.

    Nurture doesn't provide any PROMISES of being gay or not gay (or bisexual, or straight) either, but nurture can change the likelihood.

    And, sometimes, "it just happens" and there is no explanation. It may be something as simple as seeing one image, in a particular context, only one time, and at a specific time, which imprints on the child's subconscious and eventually causes it to happen.

    I believe THAT possibility a lot more than the "flapping butterfly wings causing a hurricane somewhere else in the world three weeks later" theory even though, in some ways, they're similar.

    That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
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    Oh, and mikey I'm glad to see that you'll continue to be here, and thank you also for the sweet PM. (Your 12:20 post today - which will show up at a different xx:20 for people who set their JUB timestamps differently, was of course similar to your PM in many ways.)
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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Mikey, I will miss you if you go. I have enjoyed reading your posts and appreciate your views. I hope that you reconsider. In any case good luck.

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    He aint leavin...he's just whipping up a drama fest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    He aint leavin...he's just whipping up a drama fest.
    You would know cgy.

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Wrong Daximus and I have duplex reveal so ...fail. Nice try.

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Wow, this thread sure turned into a clusterfuck.
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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    Why is this thread still going?

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    Re: Not really comfortable here any more

    afta last folk duns a business ans a leave ins ta a mists ofs a night
    *ooh ooh squirt *
    * ooh ya gots it ins 1 tis time big boy *

    alls a ins house a doins turn inta wax candulls untils suna set a gain

    da end

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