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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Sloppy raises or lowers the bar depending upon the topic and who's in the house.

    In this thread, he lowered it, for whatever reason, to be explicit in his meaning.

    In many threads, he raises it and doesn't want to be easily understood.



    I've noticed something like that but never reached that conclusion before -- thanks.
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    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Labels do actually do that though, for those of us who understand that a label is not always one fixed thing, but a spectrum of things unto itself. And when something is entirely outside any existing label, new labels are made to define it.

    And frankly, labels are amazing, and super useful, and the only reason people are all prissy about them is because some of those labels have negative connotation for someone or other.
    And because bigots love to use them to bash other people.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    No not quite the end my parting line would be

    Me: Well then thanks for telling me ...cheated lately?
    Sorry...I have to ask now...did a bi guy cheat on you? Just wondering because your initial post was very intense ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    If you can follow him, sure. There've been times when he cut through the fog of a topic to its heart... but that goes unnoticed because few take the time to translate him. And sometimes his humor is so on target it's hard to stop laughing.
    I notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    And because bigots love to use them to bash other people.
    That would be the negative connotation, yes.

    The way I see it is this - labels exist. They are shortcuts that are both useful and necessary in most everyday communication. Furthermore, they WILL exist regardless of how you feel about them, and whether you like them or not. So you can embrace a label that describes you the best, or you could keep fighting windmills and proclaiming to the world how you are such a unique snowflake that no label could possibly describe you. I find the latter to expend way too much energy for pretty much no payoff...
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    Well fine then gay is a label too maybe we should dispense with all "labels" and just call ourselves sexual. In that world bi won't exist either of course.

    sorted...

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    After giving it a bit more thought today...I do sometimes assume that some bi guys are actually straight more often than I assume they are gay....

    In terms of strictly labels....I usually think that your sexuality is most often defined by who you are emotionally attracted to but I also try to let other people define their own sexuality....

    .... EXCEPT with a homophobe because they have made it my business as a gay man to comment and "know my enemy" and since they insist on defining so many things for us....seems fair to return the favor...

    I personally used to love having sex with the bi or straight guys who were emotionally attracted to women....the best of no strings sex Not just that...they never commented on "how good we'd look together"

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    Quote Originally Posted by njcollegekid View Post
    i know the question wasnt directed at me, but if youd like, heres my answer:
    i started becoming attracted to both simultaneously. i just didnt know that the attraction to guys was attraction til a bit later. then it was pretty odd for me so i denied for a while. then when i had to confront it i was confused for a bit til i realized it meant i was bi during early high school. then after i knew i hid it til a little under a year ago when i came out.
    I have a follow-up question for you, do the "degrees" of attraction vary? Did they sorta coalesce into one thing and stay there, or does it fluctuate back and forth?

    And the questions are for anybody, I find it interesting and thanks all for sharing your views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    I'm not talking for everyone else xbuzzerx, I'm talking for myself. I don't care if you say you're bisexual and only sleep with guys or only sleep with women, anymore than I would care about anyone else saying they're bisexual and only sleeping with the same sex.
    I don't "care" either, I mean it doesn't help or hurt me in my life at all. But it leaves me curious in those cases, what does bisexuality mean? Kinda like in my first post: if bisexuality is merely "potential" for attraction or finding sexual appeal in the gender opposite the one you mostly or exclusively pursue, then could not most people identify as bisexual? The question wasn't meant to be either an attack or sarcastic, it was in earnest for our bi members here. I've had erotic dreams about women. I have had off moments catching myself thinking a woman is hot. How would a bisexual person differentiate that (I live 100% as a gay man as far as my love life is concerned in my waking life) from being bisexual?

    The only difficulty in understanding bisexuality comes from those who refuse to acknowledge it can and does exist. Most of the gay guys I know who claim it is bullshit, used it as a stepping stone to fully coming out, or they've gotten their hearts broken by falling in love with a bisexual guy who used the "I'll only date/have relationships with a woman but I'll have sex with a guy" mantra.
    Well I agree with you that many people who "question if it exists" probably do fall into the category of people who assume it's "gay people hiding." Speaking for myself though, I have only ever known bisexual people who used the label but then only pursued one gender-- and many of them were women who really only ever had boyfriends, and maybe kissed a girl once or twice. So I guess the question I always had in my mind was not "does it exist", because as far as I'm concerned it exists even in the animal kingdom and it's silly to deny it likely exists in human sexuality as well, but rather a question of "at what point does anyone, even bisexuals themselves, make a separation between an occasional or much much weaker attraction to one of the two genders, vs. actually being bisexual?"

    I don't doubt that more "evenly split" bisexuals do exist, but I have just never seen them, so I could not ask them.

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    Yeah, the thread has gone on too long.

    For everybody's info, many people forget that they are leaving digital fingerprints of their previous posts since the joined this sight.

    Many people openly criticizing bisexual people on here have been commenting on how hot they think it is to seduce and suck off 'straight' (or as they like to say, str8) men.

    So they criticize bisexuals and then worship straight guys cheating on their girlfriends. I love the irony!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I have a follow-up question for you, do the "degrees" of attraction vary? Did they sorta coalesce into one thing and stay there, or does it fluctuate back and forth?

    And the questions are for anybody, I find it interesting and thanks all for sharing your views.
    Do you mean like a constant ratio of x:y for girls:guys?

    I find I'm attracted to a specific person, and their gender is immaterial from the get-go. If it turns out I am head over heels about a girl, fine. If it turns out I am falling for a guy, also fine. I don't find myself looking for anything specific, although I have read personal accounts of bi guys who do seem to have guy-wanting days and also have girl-wanting days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    if bisexuality is merely "potential" for attraction or finding sexual appeal in the gender opposite the one you mostly or exclusively pursue, then could not most people identify as bisexual?
    I believe this is pretty much the distilled essence of the original Kinsey report.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    The question wasn't meant to be either an attack or sarcastic, it was in earnest for our bi members here. I've had erotic dreams about women. I have had off moments catching myself thinking a woman is hot. How would a bisexual person differentiate that (I live 100% as a gay man as far as my love life is concerned in my waking life) from being bisexual?
    I think in short it boils down to whether you would choose to pursue it. If you can honestly say "I really want to try my luck with her" I'd be inclined to assume you were at least curious, even possibly a proper bisexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    "at what point does anyone, even bisexuals themselves, make a separation between an occasional or much much weaker attraction to one of the two genders, vs. actually being bisexual?"

    I don't doubt that more "evenly split" bisexuals do exist, but I have just never seen them, so I could not ask them.
    This is probably not as well understood. Using Kinsey and his scale again, whether we agree with it or not, straight is probably the practiced orientation of guys who are 0 and 1 (exclusively straight and mostly straight/only incidentally gay) and gay is probably the guys who are 5 and 6 (mostly gay/only incidentally gay and exclusively gay). I think those of us who identify as bi and who are willing to say it (important in itself, I think) are those who are the 2, 3 and 4 on the scale, and I reckon that 2-4 is quite a vast range on the bell curve.

    Perhaps the biggest hassle with reverting to Kinsey is that it is probably the first reporting into all this - definitely the first widely disseminated report - and I don't think any other large study has ever been properly carried out looking at each of these areas more explicitly. So we're defaulting to a broad definition which is understood/accepted by most people and which works for the most part, but not perfectly. Honestly, it is probably overdue for an upgrade, or at least an expansion once suitable understanding is reached as to exactly what would be a better definition, or set of definitions.

    And in the meantime, we get to take shedloads of flak from total dickheads.

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    ^^blah blah ...make up your mind ...you can't just float forever in that bi lie...you know it is hurting others because you are not true to yourself. Many disagree with me and I am under renewed personal attack just for stating my opinion and being unequivocal about it. Can't you look at your part also? See it for what it is and it is far from innocuous! Please see this!
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    No, you see this is COMPLETELY where you're wrong.

    We IDENTIFY as bi. We're not closeted, we're not in denial, we're not on the downlow, we are TELLING you and everyone else out loud that we are bi guys and girls. We claim it and we are proud of it, we're not hiding this from anyone.

    What would the benefit be for us to claim it if it were not true? Straight girls are suspicious of us because they think we're really gay and will leave them for a guy, or cheat on the side . Gay guys are suspicious of us because they think we'll leave them for the "normal" life with a woman and 2.4 children. Straight people believe we should choose one or the other and stop being sluts. We get shit from all sides for claiming to be bisexual.

    So why the fuck would we volunteer for this torture if it wasn't something we ourselves honestly believed to be true?

    Answer that.

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    I am a facilitator of a city run bisexual men's support group in Toronto. In the five years that I've been involved with the group, I've met at least a dozen men who, after being loud and proud for many years, some even decades, discovered their attraction to females. Some have even gone on to marry and start families while hiding nothing of their pasts from their spouses. The man who started the group went from gay to bisexual married and has a family. He is quite happy. If sexuality can flow one way, it can certainly flow the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^^blah blah ...make up your mind ...you can't just float forever in that bi lie...you know it is hurting others because you are not true to yourself. Many disagree with me and I am under renewed personal attack just for stating my opinion and being unequivocal about it. Can't you look at your part also? See it for what it is and it is far from innocuous! Please see this!
    Strange - even my GED students don't have any trouble with the "identify which of these are facts and which are opinions" portion of the exam.

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    The vast majority of the guys in here don't know how to argue or express their thoughts/opinions without getting nasty - I've experienced this several times myself. Very unfortunate.
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    "You're not gay, you just haven't met the right girl yet". That seems pretty silly when we hear that. This seems pretty minor compared to the accusations people make toward bis. It's even worse when you consider how many of these remarks are made by gay men toward their bisexual brothers. How can anyone demand understanding, acceptance and inclusiveness when they are not willing to give it to others?

    Are there guys who claim to be bi who are really gay? Of course and probably lots of them. That doesn't diminish me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParisZ View Post
    The vast majority of the guys in here don't know how to argue or express their thoughts/opinions without getting nasty - I've experienced this several times myself. Very unfortunate.
    Thanks for sharing. Anything else?
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    Bisexuality is real, and shame on you, OP, for posting a beaten-to-death topic that offers no constructive dialogue except to perpetuate stereotypes against bisexual men and women. As a member of this community for years, you should know better.

    Some gay men abuse the term bisexuals to describe themselves, but there are also many other men who do identify as bisexual. The same with women. To dismiss an entire sexuality is, in itself, a form of homophobia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^^blah blah ...make up your mind ...you can't just float forever in that bi lie...you know it is hurting others because you are not true to yourself. Many disagree with me and I am under renewed personal attack just for stating my opinion and being unequivocal about it. Can't you look at your part also? See it for what it is and it is far from innocuous! Please see this!
    No one is listening to you because you are just doing the same thing as straight people who say gay men are just sick or "making a choice", because to them being gay is "unnatural" and not something we could actually feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    No one is listening to you because you are just doing the same thing as straight people who say gay men are just sick or "making a choice", because to them being gay is "unnatural" and not something we could actually feel.
    This is what crossed my mind, how can we know what the hell is in someone else's character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^^blah blah ...make up your mind ...you can't just float forever in that bi lie...you know it is hurting others because you are not true to yourself. Many disagree with me and I am under renewed personal attack just for stating my opinion and being unequivocal about it. Can't you look at your part also? See it for what it is and it is far from innocuous! Please see this!
    stop blaming us cuz you cant get laid. your just a lonely bigot.

    ps, you were stating your 'opinions' as facts - thats called misinformation at best. go suck a rainbow dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    ^^blah blah ...make up your mind ...you can't just float forever in that bi lie...you know it is hurting others because you are not true to yourself. Many disagree with me and I am under renewed personal attack just for stating my opinion and being unequivocal about it. Can't you look at your part also? See it for what it is and it is far from innocuous! Please see this!
    You're "under renewed attack" because you've basically written a thread about being butt-hurt by a bisexual (who we're all assuming left you for a woman) and then throwing personal opinions and generalisations around calling them facts.

    I see this entire thread as the broken hearted complaining of someone who got hurt. Painting every bisexual with the same brush because you got cheated on is stupid to be frank. Gay guys will cheat just as quickly as anyone else. And it doesn't sting any less if the person is a male or a woman. Either way, you can't compete with what they have to offer.

    Now get off your cross, dust the splinters from your stigmata wounds and move on.

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    I'm of the persuasion that many men who claim bisexuality are either practically tuned to one sex or the other (with the other sex largely appreciated through voyeurism and fantasy), or gay but playing half-straight. I think that most bisexual men claim to be/identify as straight, due to complex relationship/disclosure status and/or stigma. Further, I don't think there is a supermajority of bi men that enjoy both sexes equally--they'll usually land heavier on one side--there's some subtle insight in Kinsey's 6-point scale). That said, I'm sure that there are many exceptions, including complex scenarios like Kulindhar's bit about having a "mouth for dick but a dick for pussy" (a very interesting perspective, one that I'd never heard before).

    I'm not of the opinion that distribution is even, but I don't think that any more than ~60% of men are exclusively straight (and I mean the totally unquestionable, non-negotiable, not even in one's wildest dreams kind). I'd cite the Kinsey reports on that, along with subsequent sexological studies.

    Women....um...I have no idea. They're more sexually flexible, but um...no real experience of any sort.
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    I wish I were bi. It would be so much easier to blend in. Str8 with gay tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bendted View Post
    I wish I were bi. It would be so much easier to blend in. Str8 with gay tendencies.
    By Jove! I think you've hit on something. I'm betting that our OP and other like minded folks are resentful of bisexuals exactly for that reason. They fought the good fight for the cause and bisexuals just meander around oblivious to what they have gone through. They don't want any others taking their just rewards. Hmmm... Needs further investigation.
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    i find that with most people who identify as bi around me are really still testing the waters. one of my friends claimed bi until just recently, and when he told me that he had made his decision, it was because he had finally accepted who he was. he was more prone to dating guys, but he would look at women not as an object of affection but an object of beauty. he also realized he was happier with a guy.

    another one of my friends identifies as bi, and adamantly states he goes both directions. he has had girlfriends lately, but he has mostly been looking at and talking to guys, so really only time will tell with him. hes fairly young, so he has plenty of time to figure out who he really is and what he wants.
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    Most gay guys are just jealous of us Bi guys because we have more to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    Most gay guys are just jealous of us Bi guys because we have more to choose from.
    And with half the struggle.

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    This whole issue will be redundant in ten years.

    Mark my words. In ten years time, if we're still around, half the guys here bearing the 'Bisexual' flag now will be bearing something else.

    In twenty years time they'll be celibate / autosexual.

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    ^ but there will be a whole new crop of bisexual boys to deal with, and they will be louder and prouder then ever before. Homosexuality as a niche market is shrinking, but bisexuality is flourishing. Just wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    ^ ... but bisexuality is flourishing. Just wait...
    Are you being serious? Are you hanging around colleges where 20 year-olds are discovering sexual freedom and some of them are taking up this new fad called 'Polyamory'. The kids I know pass through that phase in 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Are you being serious? Are you hanging around colleges where 20 year-olds are discovering sexual freedom and some of them are taking up this new fad called 'Polyamory'. The kids I know pass through that phase in 5 years.
    Where do you get this information? Do you get some special old geezer newsletter to keep you up to date about what the college kids are doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    ... the college kids...
    Did you go through a bisexual phase at college for five minutes? I did.

    The fad for "polyamory" passed quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    And with half the struggle.

    You know it, brother!
    It's never too early in the year,
    to spread some goodwill cheer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Did you go through a bisexual phase at college for five minutes? I did.

    The fad for "polyamory" passed quickly.
    Polyamory is not bisexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Did you go through a bisexual phase at college for five minutes? I did.

    The fad for "polyamory" passed quickly.
    It may only last 5 minutes, Pat, but if everyone is as open and loud and proud about it in those 5 minutes as gay youth are becoming in this day and age, it is going to seem like a hell of a lot of bi people out there.

    -d-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    Most gay guys are just jealous of us Bi guys because we have more to choose from.
    not this one. but you go right on ahead believing that foolishness.
    "I'll cast a spell that you can't undo...'til you wake up and you find that you love me too..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Are you being serious? Are you hanging around colleges where 20 year-olds are discovering sexual freedom and some of them are taking up this new fad called 'Polyamory'. The kids I know pass through that phase in 5 years.
    Just like here and now, where a huge percentage of the gay men on this and every other gay forum, father issues are very prevalent amongst us. And guess what? Those father issues in our society are growing exponentially every year. Yes, some gays are born, but some are made too. Lack of emotional support from a positive male role model in male children will just cause that need to be filled later in life. That is a given. Absentee fathers do much more damage to their sons then they know, and eventually we sons realize this and search out emotional repair. I am one and so are several of my close friends. I see it sooo often now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Just like here and now, where a huge percentage of the gay men on this and every other gay forum, father issues are very prevalent amongst us. And guess what? Those father issues in our society are growing exponentially every year. Yes, some gays are born, but some are made too. Lack of emotional support from a positive male role model in male children will just cause that need to be filled later in life. That is a given. Absentee fathers do much more damage to their sons then they know, and eventually we sons realize this and search out emotional repair. I am one and so are several of my close friends. I see it sooo often now.
    I highly doubt the percentage of gay men who are fathers is going up. I'm sure it's going down compared to the eras where it was not possible to live as a gay man publicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    ...if everyone is as open and loud and proud about it in those 5 minutes...
    You are a scientist and I admire you and all scientists for their rationality.

    But I reckon this time of being 'open and loud' will pass and people won't even bother being loud about their private life. Especially now when the trend is for people aren't even bothering to get married and relying on the state to raise their children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    ...Lack of emotional support from a positive male role model in male children will just cause that need to be filled later in life. That is a given. Absentee fathers do much more damage to their sons...
    I agree with you 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I highly doubt the percentage of gay men who are fathers is going up...
    And I agree with you here also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I highly doubt the percentage of gay men who are fathers is going up. I'm sure it's going down compared to the eras where it was not possible to live as a gay man publicly.
    You misunderstood. I wasn't referring to gay men who are fathers, I meant gay men who have issues about THEIR fathers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    You misunderstood. I wasn't referring to gay men who are fathers, I meant gay men who have issues about THEIR fathers.
    I haven't seen any evidence to suggest gay men have more problems with their fathers to "explain" being gay than straight men had with their fathers.

    Son-father relationships are frequently conflicted for a lot of reasons. Pat is so fond of pointing out the absentee father syndrome in urban poverty settings, if there was some scientific relationship between the influence of the father and sexuality, we should see a disproportionate number of gay men coming from urban poverty, and I have never seen evidence to suggest that is the case.

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    It doesn't matter what you have seen. there is plenty of evidence to show a correlation between the two. Google it. And btw, absentee doesn't necessarily mean physically absent. It could also mean emotionally absent. Also many overachieving, workaholic fathers are absent from their son's lives though they share a house. Lots of that going on in upper class neighbourhoods too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    It doesn't matter what you have seen. there is plenty of evidence to show a correlation between the two. Google it. And btw, absentee doesn't necessarily mean physically absent. It could also mean emotionally absent. Also many overachieving, workaholic fathers are absent from their son's lives though they share a house. Lots of that going on in upper class neighbourhoods too.
    I didn't say "it's false", I said I have seen no evidence to suggest. You believe straight men never had distant, aloof, emotionally unavailable, alcoholic, invalid or absentee fathers?

    I disregard the correlation because I haven't seen proof of it. Why should I go research what you are claiming? If there's facts supporting this provide them.

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