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    America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    What change?



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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    oh he was born in Canada.
    Canada didn't have an accent then, what change ?


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Telstra what is this I don't even .


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Father Coughlin didn't have an accent. Why didn't he have an accent ?


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    Father Coughlin didn't have an accent. Why didn't he have an accent ?
    Obviously it's one of them evil tricks Canadians play before they invade and take over your country.

    Trust me Telly, one day you'll be bowing before the Maple Leaf, or risk death at the hands of a Mountie.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    someone is obsessed with America...telly give it a rest. Why not post about oz? You exceed your own standards of obsession.....tiresome mate. truly.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    I don't care a jot about his accent, but watching him talk was like watching a bobble-headed doll.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    I don't care a jot about his accent, but watching him talk was like watching a bobble-headed doll.
    I thought that too


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    I don't care a jot about his accent, but watching him talk was like watching a bobble-headed doll.
    I do care about accent.
    So in the 1930s until now the accent has changed that much?

    Also i just noticed, they put a sub-title because people now can't understand his accent ?
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    What are you talking about? He has an Irish accent.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    The better question this video raises, WHERE did all these people come from? Surely none existed before filming was invented. Creeeepy.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    The better question this video raises, WHERE did all these people come from? Surely none existed before filming was invented. Creeeepy.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    I do care about accent.
    So in the 1930s until now the accent has changed that much?

    Also i just noticed, they put a sub-title because people now can't understand his accent ?
    You've based this on video of one man? I'm Canadian, and I can assure you that there were various Canadian dialects and accents even back in the 1800s, and there were even more in the United States. Our first prime minister had a very heavy Scottish accent. Several have had French and English accents. You should do a bit of homework before making such claims. You might actually learn something instead of making yourself out to be a fool.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    You've based this on video of one man? I'm Canadian, and I can assure you that there were various Canadian dialects and accents even back in the 1800s, and there were even more in the United States. Our first prime minister had a very heavy Scottish accent. Several have had French and English accents. You should do a bit of homework before making such claims. You might actually learn something instead of making yourself out to be a fool.
    The accent then was different compared to now.
    Roosevelt didn't sound like American today at all.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Go back to interweb surfing while sitting or squatting at the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Go back to interweb surfing while sitting or squatting at the toilet.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Did Aussies have pet Kangaroo's in the 1930's?

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Telly...did you go out yesterday without your football helmet and make bumpsies on your head..?


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    I'm baffled that you watched the video and the only thing you fixed on was the accent?

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    You've based this on video of one man? I'm Canadian, and I can assure you that there were various Canadian dialects and accents even back in the 1800s, and there were even more in the United States. Our first prime minister had a very heavy Scottish accent. Several have had French and English accents. You should do a bit of homework before making such claims. You might actually learn something instead of making yourself out to be a fool.
    No. Telly saw one Canadian speaking on youtube, they all talked like him. Why do they have no accent?

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...


    My god Australian's had no accent in the late 40s!!! WHAT!
    Last edited by JohnnyAnger; January 5th, 2014 at 11:12 AM.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    You've based this on video of one man? I'm Canadian, and I can assure you that there were various Canadian dialects and accents even back in the 1800s, and there were even more in the United States. Our first prime minister had a very heavy Scottish accent. Several have had French and English accents. You should do a bit of homework before making such claims. You might actually learn something instead of making yourself out to be a fool.
    Canadians have very strong accents. I can spot a Canadian easily when they start talking.

    As for this thread.... Americans have lots of accents and dialects. Is this thread just an attention getter?

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Canadians have very strong accents. I can spot a Canadian easily when they start talking.

    As for this thread.... Americans have lots of accents and dialects. Is this thread just an attention getter?
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    He definitely has an accent -- sounds like an Irishman from the northern Atlantic coast of North America.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Canadians are different all across the board…people from the Bruce Peninsula, about 100 miles from me, have a distinct dialect.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Roosevelt didn't sound like American today at all.
    Look up patrician. The upper classes were schooled in diction to make their accents more like the acquired accent of the English.

    That said, Roosevelt has a distinctively Northeastern accent with some "refinement" characteristic of those of his class at that time.

    Key words: endured, revive, prosper, order, world, measures, authority, other, experience, against, emergency, clear, foreign

    Once you've been to America and visited multiple regions, you will be qualified to discuss regional and national accents. For now, not so much.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    A 1930's Transatlantic accent. Katherine Hepburn's is strong.


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    In the case of Roosevelt and Hepburn, I think its more just a legacy of an older education system that placed importance on having Received Pronunciation which all but stopped after World War Two in the states. Even in the UK, older RP sounds very different to younger people who have been educated in the same schools because pronunciation is not really taught in the same way as both. Instead people are actually allowed to have their local accents. The video I posted above from Australia really brings that home, where most of the adults have horrible posh English accents.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I'm baffled that you watched the video and the only thing you fixed on was the accent?
    Well, i don't really like to talk about his political views because that would take too much research


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    A 1930's Transatlantic accent. Katherine Hepburn's is strong.

    Yes, how come they don't have American accent, or they speak like that on purpose.


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    ^ For one thing, Cary Grant wasn't born in America -- he was English:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Grant

    As for Hepburn et al., that has already been explained repeatedly in the thread.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Telstra for goodness sake read people's replies. It's already been discussed as to why the accents have an "English" gentrified slant. Both JohnnyAnger and Dejavudoo have answered you, yet your ignoring them and continuing to ask why like a toddler.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyAnger View Post
    In the case of Roosevelt and Hepburn, I think its more just a legacy of an older education system that placed importance on having Received Pronunciation which all but stopped after World War Two in the states. Even in the UK, older RP sounds very different to younger people who have been educated in the same schools because pronunciation is not really taught in the same way as both. Instead people are actually allowed to have their local accents. The video I posted above from Australia really brings that home, where most of the adults have horrible posh English accents.
    I think there is one thing you are ignoring and that is the screen directors of the time. Hollywood, not the educational system promoted these types accents for uniformity's sake. UK comparisons are irrelevant since it's a screen dictate from Fox and other studios in USA. Screen Gems also with obvious exception of the three stooges. But even there it crept in....
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Mike, I believe classical stage actors like the Carradines are good evidence that the American stage expected actors to demonstrate elocution that harkened to the British speech.

    Hollywood only continued what was already an accepted standard in both oratory and theater. Not sure if Edison spools bear this out or not, but it can probably be proven with a little research. To be sure, the accents were gentrified, but actors were also expected to affect the King's Speech.

    I'm sure there are extant copies of diction and elocution books that would have been used back before the turn of the 19th century in America.
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    ^Ah great point...the influence may have been coming from what was there before Hollywood existed. Perhaps Emily Post??? This is pretty Arcane stuff though in early Hollywood there were several disparate influences and one cannot say they were all rooted in traditional elocution.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    I'm not sure Post ever addressed anything other than etiquette. It included forms of address, protocols for writing, but I am unaware of any diction included.

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    ^Dunno not too well versed in that stuff but I'm sure Belamo can give us some insight.....ROFL
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    It was fashionable mid century for Americans to have a Mid-Atlantic English accent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_accent

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Yeah, what is this thread even aboot hey? Rareboy where's my Timbits and cheezies?
    Eh?

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    There is yet a tilt toward the English on various NPR affiliates. When driving across the county, one will often find English announcers and news readers on programs on Public Radio in the U.S., much more often than on television. The incidence of it seems to be a holdover of this sort of Anglophile thinking that also drove the diction thing here. It's frankly a bit embarrassing to find on Public Radio.

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    ^Actually it comes off as uppity to me and a bit smarmy as well. But it isn't an English accent at least according to me. faux-sophistry perhaps?? NPR is corrupt as hell though and truth be known is a low grade criminal organization.
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    If there are no radio, TV, movies, sound recordings, phones ... etc,
    there would be so many different types of English and we wouldn't be able to understand each other ...


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    His speech sounds like Hitler to me (the way he shout and moving his head):



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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    You pierced your nose?


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    You can't smell as well with a septum or wotever it is
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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

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    ^Actually it comes off as uppity to me and a bit smarmy as well. But it isn't an English accent at least according to me. faux-sophistry perhaps?? NPR is corrupt as hell though and truth be known is a low grade criminal organization.
    Why yes, now that you mention it, of course. I think that was implied when I used the word Anglophile.

    On that note, would a mod please merge this thread with the one about comitting someone to a mental ward? :rollseyes:

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    I was born in Brooklyn New York. Although I do not have one of those strong NYC accents I assure you each part of the states has one. A linguist at college told me the place with the least accent was on the Border with Canada near Toronto. I just know in New York people still say things like Jogeat no Juu (Joe did you eat no did you) Or turdy terd and terd (33rd and 3rd). While mine is not as heavy I live in London now here 12 years and people say New York right? Grin

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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Why yes, now that you mention it, of course. I think that was implied when I used the word Anglophile.

    On that note, would a mod please merge this thread with the one about comitting someone to a mental ward? :rollseyes:
    Since you are at it,
    can you translate the video at post #44 ?


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    Re: America didn't have an accent in the 1930s ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    It was fashionable mid century for Americans to have a Mid-Atlantic English accent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_accent
    And a version of it is still taught as the proper way to speak for Shakespeare and most older stage dramas.

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