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  • Like A Virgin

    1 4.17%
  • Into The Groove

    3 12.50%
  • Papa Don't Preach

    1 4.17%
  • Like A Prayer

    4 16.67%
  • Vogue

    4 16.67%
  • Frozen

    2 8.33%
  • Music

    0 0%
  • Hung Up

    2 8.33%
  • 4 Minutes

    0 0%
  • Other (specify in a comment)

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    The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

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    Madonna wishes you all a happy Holiday!


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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Fuck you, Madonna. Get your Ray of Light era shit together. Young Street in Toronto, for some asinine reason, was closed next to your gym and I had to navigate my way through an empty skyscraper where your new Hard Candy Fitness gym is and it was confusing as fuck.
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    ^^^

    Madonna says she's Sorry for your first world problems. Oh yeah, and fuck you too.


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    From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Recently, Madonna posted a picture of her boxing son, Rocco with the caption:
    No one messes with Dirty Soap! Mama said knock you out! #disni**a.

    Unsurprisingly especially to the knowing Madonna, a flurry of support and protest comments soon followed.

    Oprah mentioned that to her the use of the n-word has so much degrading meaning that it should never be used regardless; to Jay Z, the repetition of the word makes it less powerful.

    On one end, Jay Z's point is nothing more but desensitization. You repeat something well enough in context out of a painful history, it loses its pain. But then again, that also opens up a new danger - a systematized insensitivity. With Oprah's comment, as the HP books said, only you can give power to a name or a term; so by severely clamping it to that painful part of history and forbidding it never be used again, arent you clamping yourself down?

    Why do black people have a go at scot-free? If the n-word is symbolic of oppression and slavery, dont we all experience some form of it in our own individual ways? Can't we all subscribe to it as solidarity claim to a similar experience. Paula Deen got crucified for it yet Eminem who lyrically bashes gays, lesbians etc and uses the n-word repeatedly gets a free out of jail card.

    While it is unwise at times to doubt Madonna, as she is capable of far-reaching foresight than most with her antics or it could be lucky coincidence or a skillful retooling of what she did and does to appear as if they had/have an agenda, Madonna clearly got part of what she always was good at: attention.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by sammyyummy View Post
    Madonna clearly got part of what she always was good at: attention.
    I didn't know about this until now, so thanks for doing your part.

    Lex

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    "No one messes with dirty soap" ???

    wtf does that even mean ???
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    She wants to remain in the spotlight and she has to say or do something that will create controversy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    I didn't know about this until now, so thanks for doing your part.

    Lex
    always happy to serve. thanks for your contribution, lex.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    I liked her "apology" where she tweeted out "Get off my dick" lol. Classy mole.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    She is RACIST!!!!!!

    OMG...I just unfriended her on FB!!!!

    Massive faux pas.

    Stupid old woman!

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Hopefully she gets swallowed up by a sinkhole soon! Bitch.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    As Whoopi Goldberg once said, "It's never the word, it's the intent of the word."

    I do not believe she was being racist. Anyone with half a brain could see that. The fact that she's white should have nothing to do with it. I've had a straight female friend call herself a "fag-hag" in front of me. I wasn't offended, because I knew that her use of the word wasn't homophobic. The same applies to this situation.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    It would be hypocritical for me to jump all over her when I have used the SAME terminology in the SAME manner. She didn't call anyone a "nigger". She got a little too "cute" and forgot that she is indeed a white woman. Not her brightest moment, but if she's a closet racist...she's done an awesome job of pretending not to be all this time. I'm as offended by her using the word as I am when I hear Eminem use it.

    FOR ME it comes down to how the word is being used, who it is directed towards, intent, and if the person using it has a "history" of being a racist douchebag. That goes for blacks, whites...everyone.

    As for the white people who whine about "why can't we use the N-word?"....it's probably because most of the bitches who whine about not being able to use it are the ones who still view blacks as inferior or wish we were still living in Jim Crow era.
    Last edited by Gentleheart; January 18th, 2014 at 08:40 AM.
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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    The *N* word and the *F* word. They carry a lot of negative baggage for a lot of people.
    The mere fact that they can bring up so many bad thoughts to so many, and potentially condone hatred, is more than enough reason for me to not use them.
    If you don't think these words have much power it's just wishful thinking and a bit of denial. Just remember that they are the exact words people reach for when they are most angry and violent.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    Eminem has used it?
    That would have been my question as well. I seem to remember him years ago when he was actually popular saying the n word was one of his limits that the industry just wouldn't tolerate.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    She's just trying to create some controversy, people don't even care about her anymore.
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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Penn Jillette once said:
    The person on the other side of my date stands up and says, “Well if there’s no God, what’s to stop me from raping and killing everyone around me?” And my date raised her hand and said, “May I change my seat?”

    That really is the point. The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping ram[pages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.
    Historically, the word was both an everyday noun, and sort of an insult. Then over time it became exclusively an insult, and the only reason to say the word was to belittle someone, or try to.

    I actually think that was a mark of progress. I think the unpleasant side of human nature is to insult only the people you fear could be mistaken for your equals. In the early history of the word, people using it to describe others had enough arrogance to believe no one would ever confuse blacks and whites as equals. When it became exclusively an insult, it was in many ways an admission of defeat. All bigots had left was to try to throw the past back in the faces of people who were starting to win.

    Then it morphed again so another reason to use it was as a badge of honour and a political act to indicate indifference to, and contempt of, bigotry. And claiming of a political identity.

    And then of course the word comes up in intellectual discussions of the word. Linguistics. Politics. Sociology.

    So, this brings me back to Penn Jillette. There is nothing to stop me or anyone from saying it. And I say it as often as I want to...

    The older meaning of the word, the everyday noun used to describe someone with African ancestry, is long since dead and gone, so I don't use it. I don't use it as a belittling insult either, because I don't believe anyone's ancestry or genetics has anything to do with why we might be having a disagreement. And because I want to at least try to be taken seriously in life as a civilised person. I don't use it as a reclaimed word because it's more politically powerful and relevant when a person uses the word to describe themselves in defiance of anti-black bigotry, and it doesn't apply to me because I'm white. It's directly the same kind of reclaiming as when gay people use the word "faggot." I don't go out of my way to describe myself that way, but I understand the idea behind reclaiming words, and whether I do it or not, it is a legitimate option in politicised language. And between friends I also think it is appropriate, and I would use it, when it is clear that we're on the same page. So anybody who knows me well enough to say "Hey faggot, where have you been?" I could also reply to with "Hey nigger, long time no see!" and it would not be inappropriate. Though...to be honest I don't talk that way and neither do my friends. Like I said I don't really use reclaimed words, even though I don't cringe when I hear it and I get what it's about.

    And that brings us to the last occasion to use the word: in discussions about the word itself. I will use it in that context mostly because I think any of the mock-censored versions are just silly for an intellectual discussion. n-word. nistarstarer. Pff. It is unacademic. Would be like a gynaecologist talking about the "baby coming out the woo woo." If we're going to have a serious discussion about the word, we're going to say the word.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleheart View Post
    It would be hypocritical for me to jump all over her when I have used the SAME terminology in the SAME manner.
    Okay what does it mean? I don't have the first clue what she is even trying to convey, other than guessing she is probably bragging about her son.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    Eminem has used it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin View Post
    That would have been my question as well. I seem to remember him years ago when he was actually popular saying the n word was one of his limits that the industry just wouldn't tolerate.
    I'm sure I've heard him use nigga in some of his songs. Google it, guys.



    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Okay what does it mean? I don't have the first clue what she is even trying to convey, other than guessing she is probably bragging about her son.
    "dis[this] nigga" is a phrase some of my friends and I have used when someone is doing something and thinking they're about to pull one over on you...but you catch on to it and shut it down. It's similar to when I see someone say something on here, and I say child, please. I'm sure people use it differently though.
    Last edited by Gentleheart; January 18th, 2014 at 10:22 AM.
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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Madonna? Really? Who cares what she says anyway. She's over and she knows it. Just desperate now.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Madonna? Really? Who cares what she says anyway. She's over and she knows it. Just desperate now.
    If I had her money, I wouldn't mind being over.
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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Madonna? Really? Who cares what she says anyway. She's over and she knows it. Just desperate now.
    Wut.

    I'm by no means a Madonna fanboy, but even I have to take exception when people seem to assume she's just an attention whore with no other perogatives. You know how ridiculously intelligent she is, right? She keeps physics books next to her damn bed.

    I don't think she's desperately scheming ways to get attention. I think she's been pretty enormously successful at anything she ever wanted to do.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Statement released a few hours ago via facebook:

    Quote Originally Posted by Madonna
    I am sorry if I offended anyone with my use of the N word on Instagram. It was not meant as a racial slur.. I am not a racist. There's no way to defend the use of the word. It was all about intention.. It was used as a term of endearment toward my son who is white. I appreciate that it's a provocative word and I apologize if it gave people the wrong impression. Forgive me.
    Last edited by Gentleheart; January 18th, 2014 at 02:06 PM.
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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    The Queen

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    let the truth be told


    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Wut.

    I'm by no means a Madonna fanboy, but even I have to take exception when people seem to assume she's just an attention whore with no other perogatives. You know how ridiculously intelligent she is, right? She keeps physics books next to her damn bed.

    I don't think she's desperately scheming ways to get attention. I think she's been pretty enormously successful at anything she ever wanted to do.

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Madonna doesn't need to be desperate and has her legacy regardless of whether she never dons the bustier again.
    so beautiful. Just beautiful.
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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    A message from The Queen:

    #get off of my dick haters!"

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    Re: From M to N: The Case of Madonna and the N-word

    Quote Originally Posted by ILLBFIRE View Post
    #get off of my dick haters!"
    lol a mess. I can tells she hangs around a fair number of black people judging from some of the little idioms and phrases she uses.
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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Madonna is reportedly going to sing with Macklemore on Same Love.....OMG
    i thought she was going to sing with Lorde or Perry or Beyonce.

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Madonna is performing at the Grammy Awards this Sunday on CBS 8pm EST. It's been confirmed.

    I'm so excited!!
    Last edited by MrMojoRisin; January 25th, 2014 at 08:51 AM.

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Madonna, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis to Perform "Same Love" Together at the 2014 Grammys

    Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainm...#ixzz2rWr9wcWT

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    Oh wow Madonna Macklemore Ryan Lewis Mary Lambert - no special effects, no dancing but was so moving.

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    I loved their performance. Definitely my favorite performance of the night.

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    What trooper, even with her foot still not well from a recent accident Madonna, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis and Mary Lambert performing at The Grammy's 2014 'Same Love".


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    ryan lewis is cute

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Madonna reveals that she's working with Avicii on her upcoming album.

    Not sure how I feel about this, as it gives me the impression she's still in the 'release dance/party/"fun" music' type of mindset. I'm ready for something a bit more "quiet", serious, and deep.

    We shall see though.
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    New album =tour! !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLBFIRE View Post
    New album =tour! !!!!!!!
    she doesn't need an excuse to tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleheart View Post
    Madonna reveals that she's working with Avicii on her upcoming album.

    Not sure how I feel about this, as it gives me the impression she's still in the 'release dance/party/"fun" music' type of mindset. I'm ready for something a bit more "quiet", serious, and deep.

    We shall see though.
    Please don't tell me that's true???


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    Madonna does amazing work with talents that are under the radar...rather than established ones

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    In the old thread, I remember some discussion about a bootleg album with unreleased tracks. Some of them were really good and I'm trying to find them. What was the bootleg album called? Help me out guys?

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    "I'll cast a spell that you can't undo...'til you wake up and you find that you love me too..."

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Today, Madonna's "Like a Prayer" is 25 years old!

    The "Like a Prayer" album proved to be very successful, spawning five top 20 hit singles on the Billboard Hot 100 chart: the title track (peaking at No. 1), "Express Yourself" (No. 2), "Cherish" (No. 2), "Oh Father" (No. 20) and "Keep It Together" (No. 8).

    then…


    now…


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    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    Really girl? Madonna only latches on to those who can get her the publicity. Think back to all her major collabs and performances.
    As far as producers, she seems to work with more obscure people. Otherwise, you're correct.

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    Could Rebel Heart be an upcoming single?

    If so, I hope it's released soon.

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    this is awesome.

    the FEELS.

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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    This was posted on facebook this morning:





    I guess the new album is "done", or perhaps demos that may be tweaked before deciding what goes onto the release. Either way...new music on the way soon...

    PLEASE don't fucking let me down, M.
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    Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread - 2014 edition

    The bootleg album I had been looking for is Animal. I was looking for it for the song Broken. Great stuff! I need to buy a copy of this bootleg!

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