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    Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Welcome to Occupy version 2.0

    San Francisco is increasingly becoming the place to be for tech companies. Many Silicon Valley companies are moving from the suburbs into SF because many of their younger employees prefer to live in SF.

    Other Silicon Valley companies like Apple & Google now operate luxury coach buses in San Francisco to shuttle their employees to & from work.

    But now SF activists are mad at the Silicon Valley tech companies because their employees are wealthy yuppies & driving up rents even further. People who don't make the big bucks working for tech companies are being evicted and forced out of SF altogether.

    So they've started blocking buses from picking up their Silicon Valley employees, and they slash tires and throw bricks through the bus windows..

    The Silicon Valley companies (Google, Apple, etc) are confused. Weren't the folks in SF supposed to be thrilled because the buses are environmentally friendly & encourage their employees to not drive?



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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Sounds like SanFran is a city badly in need of rent control...the vandalism won't solve anything, it will just lead to more problems.
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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    I was planning to move there, but I couldn't afford it because the cost of rent is beyond anything I can manage the moment.
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    I think San Francisco may have the highest rents of any US City...San Jose is not far behind. As for the protesters...the ship has already sailed. CLIMATE is key. As I grew up here I know so many people who left and who tried to come back and couldn't afford it. Once you get used to the weather here it is hard to live anywhere else really.

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    I can't imagine myself living in Frisco, the rent is only part of the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dereperez View Post
    I can't imagine myself living in Frisco, the rent is only part of the issue.
    Could you elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I think San Francisco may have the highest rents of any US City...San Jose is not far behind. As for the protesters...the ship has already sailed. CLIMATE is key. As I grew up here I know so many people who left and who tried to come back and couldn't afford it. Once you get used to the weather here it is hard to live anywhere else really.
    I think San Francisco has the 2nd highest rents in the nation. I'm pretty sure NYC (Manhattan) has the highest rents in the US.

    But yes, SF is really expensive. They're selling new 1 bedroom condos in the Castro for $800,000. 2 bedroom condos go for over $1 million. And that doesn't include a parking space.......you have to pay extra for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Could you elaborate?
    Sure. I'm a more laid back kind of guy and SF is just way too busy and hustle-and-bustle style for me. The place is too crowded, the cost of living too high, and I can't stand the rolling hilly streets. Don't get me wrong, I like visiting the place once in awhile but I can't envision myself living there. No offense to anyone that lives there or enjoys the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I think San Francisco has the 2nd highest rents in the nation. I'm pretty sure NYC (Manhattan) has the highest rents in the US.

    But yes, SF is really expensive. They're selling new 1 bedroom condos in the Castro for $800,000. 2 bedroom condos go for over $1 million. And that doesn't include a parking space.......you have to pay extra for that.
    Actually..New York is #5...SF is #1 and even San Jose is higher than NYC...
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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Quote Originally Posted by dereperez View Post
    I can't imagine myself living in Frisco
    Don't Call It Frisco


    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    And that doesn't include a parking space.......you have to pay extra for that.
    Having a car in SF can be more hassle than benefit. Street parking is often hard to find and if your bumper ends up too close to one of the many curb cuts, it gets towed pronto.


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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

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    Since Jerry Brown was mayor of Oakland, there are been many positive changes. The rents in Oakland must be high, but they might be more manageable for the "regular" person. Worth a look. Also try San Leandro, Hayward, or other surrounding communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Don't Call It Frisco




    Having a car in SF can be more hassle than benefit. Street parking is often hard to find and if your bumper ends up too close to one of the many curb cuts, it gets towed pronto.

    Even as a visitor, major hotel parking rates are very high. BART rules!

    P.S. Please don't call it Frisco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Never been to erm... Sex Fucksisqo, but Amsterdam has similar problems.

    It is true, however, that many people here don't actually pay the high contemporary market rates for rent and mortgage.
    I suspect similar situations occur in SF.

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    Where does the article state this is the Occupy movement doing this? Or is this an attempt to discredit the movement?

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    JQ, either document that this has anything to do with the Occupy movement or admit your title is a lie and ask the mods to correct it.

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    ^^I haven't heard a word about this...just from JQ.

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    So this whole thread is a lie? I actually thought that JQ had said something that I could agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    I never call it Frisco. NEVER. If I want to "do shorthand" I'll sometimes call it SanFran.

    "Frisco" is like an infinite number of people scratching their fingernails on an infinite number of chalkboards.

    Frisco in north Texas or western Colorado, yes...THAT works, because it's the actual name for those two small towns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    JQ, either document that this has anything to do with the Occupy movement or admit your title is a lie and ask the mods to correct it.
    When I read the title and first post, I expected JQ was reporting the Occupy movement was vandalizing buses. After reading his link it's nothing to do with Occupy.

    JayQueer lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    So this whole thread is a lie? I actually thought that JQ had said something that I could agree with.


    I never call it Frisco. NEVER. If I want to "do shorthand" I'll sometimes call it SanFran.

    "Frisco" is like an infinite number of people scratching their fingernails on an infinite number of chalkboards.

    Frisco in north Texas or western Colorado, yes...THAT works, because it's the actual name for those two small towns.
    I thought it was weird back in the 70s especially when people who had just moved here would correct natives and call San Francisco "The City". I didn't really like the nickname. There was even a huge gay nightclub that had a stage for major nightclub entertainers...a restaurant...and upstairs they had a huge dance floor. The original name was Cabaret but they changed it to "The City" I think due to the trend...then it died.

    I call her San Francisco... or SF for short...

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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer
    Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses



    We are the 92%

    Tech Only Accounts For 8 Percent Of San Francisco Private Jobs

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    So this whole thread is a lie? I actually thought that JQ had said something that I could agree with.


    I never call it Frisco. NEVER. If I want to "do shorthand" I'll sometimes call it SanFran.

    "Frisco" is like an infinite number of people scratching their fingernails on an infinite number of chalkboards.

    Frisco in north Texas or western Colorado, yes...THAT works, because it's the actual name for those two small towns.
    Frisco is one of the fastest growing suburbs in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.

    It's population is about 135,000 people now. Not exactly a small town. Think about acres of suburban houses, Costcos & Wal-Marts, large SUVs (with "Nobama" bumper stickers), high school football teams, megachurches, mostly White people & Republicans.

    That's Frisco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    When I read the title and first post, I expected JQ was reporting the Occupy movement was vandalizing buses. After reading his link it's nothing to do with Occupy.

    JayQueer lied.
    Oh please. "Occupy 2.0" was meant in jest because 1) the protesters were protesting Occupy style and 2) "version 2.0" was meant to relate to Silicon Valley & tech industry.

    I never said this was directly related or connected to the same people in Occupy a few yrs ago. Just like World War I did not involve the same cast of characters as did World War II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Oh please. "Occupy 2.0" was meant in jest because 1) the protesters were protesting Occupy style and 2) "version 2.0" was meant to relate to Silicon Valley & tech industry.

    I never said this was directly related or connected to the same people in Occupy a few yrs ago. Just like World War I did not involve the same cast of characters as did World War II.
    What makes it "Occupy style"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Frisco is one of the fastest growing suburbs in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.

    It's population is about 135,000 people now. Not exactly a small town. Think about acres of suburban houses, Costcos & Wal-Marts, large SUVs (with "Nobama" bumper stickers), high school football teams, megachurches, mostly White people & Republicans.

    That's Frisco.
    Think about acres of suburban houses, Costcos & Wal-Marts, large SUVs (with "Nobama" bumper stickers), high school football teams, megachurches, mostly White people & Republicans.
    Do I have to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Oh please. "Occupy 2.0" was meant in jest because 1) the protesters were protesting Occupy style and 2) "version 2.0" was meant to relate to Silicon Valley & tech industry.
    Here's your original post:

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Welcome to Occupy version 2.0

    San Francisco is increasingly becoming the place to be for tech companies. Many Silicon Valley companies are moving from the suburbs into SF because many of their younger employees prefer to live in SF.

    Other Silicon Valley companies like Apple & Google now operate luxury coach buses in San Francisco to shuttle their employees to & from work.

    But now SF activists are mad at the Silicon Valley tech companies because their employees are wealthy yuppies & driving up rents even further. People who don't make the big bucks working for tech companies are being evicted and forced out of SF altogether.

    So they've started blocking buses from picking up their Silicon Valley employees, and they slash tires and throw bricks through the bus windows..

    The Silicon Valley companies (Google, Apple, etc) are confused. Weren't the folks in SF supposed to be thrilled because the buses are environmentally friendly & encourage their employees to not drive?

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...es-5083275.php
    Please point out where you said this "in jest". Did the original Occupy movement slash bus tires and throw bricks through bus windows?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I never said this was directly related or connected to the same people in Occupy a few yrs ago. Just like World War I did not involve the same cast of characters as did World War II.
    Are you comparing / equating the Occupy movement with a World War?

    Your title: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses and opening statement Welcome to Occupy version 2.0 were meant to equate the original Occupy with this vandalism you. By capitalizing the word "Occupy", you turned it into a pronoun, giving the illusion that the people responsible for the vandalism were with the Occupy movement.

    Can't talk your way out of this one. You lied.

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    Rupert Murdoch would be so proud of you, JQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Frisco is one of the fastest growing suburbs in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.

    It's population is about 135,000 people now. Not exactly a small town. Think about acres of suburban houses, Costcos & Wal-Marts, large SUVs (with "Nobama" bumper stickers), high school football teams, megachurches, mostly White people & Republicans.

    That's Frisco.
    It doesn't sound like anyone likes the town of Frisco, Texas.

    Why does everyone seem to hate Frisco?

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/dalla...te-frisco.html

    One person's opinion:

    However, I don't like Frisco. To me it's too far away, too HOA-y, too cookie-cutter, too homogenous. It's jam-packed with soccer moms in SUVs and sweaty, cologned golfing douchebags in leased BMWs hauling their screaming brats to <insert chain restaurant here>. I've been up there before, mainly to shop at Ikea. I don't see the appeal of the place, and I certainly wouldn't endure hellish commutes to live there.
    Doesn't sound too appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Please point out where you said this "in jest". Did the original Occupy movement slash bus tires and throw bricks through bus windows?
    The Occupy protest did a lot of vandalism. We know that.

    In San Diego they vandalized a coffee & hot dog stands by smearing blood and urine over them.

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...s-blood-urine/

    And there are many other examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    It doesn't sound like anyone likes the town of Frisco, Texas.
    I never said I didn't like Frisco.

    I've been to Frisco before. My relatives in Texas live there. Affordable living & low taxes. Good school system & nationwide famous high school football teams.

    Plus the men there are really hott......so yummy! Everything's bigger in Texas, if you know what I mean. Big, husky, muscular Texan men (with money). Major eye candy. I had to be careful because they're mostly all straight & I didnt want them to know I was checking them out.

    I'm in my 20s but maybe I can try out for a special position on the football team. I'm a tight end but Coach is going to turn me into a wide receiver....



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    *sigh*

    As usual, this thread has degenerated into one of your sexual fantasies.

    But you still lied. This has nothing to do with the Occupy movement. Admit it.

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    Is this the same group that had Union activists mixing in with and pretending to be Google employees and bad mouthing the protesters in order to make the Google employees look bad?
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    A little bit of San Francisco trivia.....

    I love Tony Bennett...a lot...and the song he made famous will always be one of my favorites...I think it is a beautiful tribute to the City by the Bay....

    ...the really cool trivia bit is the songwriters were a gay couple and World War 2 Vets.... George Cory and Douglass Cross......who wrote the song after moving away and missing San Francisco....

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    Oh damn, everyone getting on my back about calling San Francisco, "Frisco". Apparently it's a popular pet peeve.

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    Just don't confuse the initials for "science fiction".

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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Frisco...
    It's population is about 135,000 people now. Not exactly a small town.

    Think about acres of suburban houses, Costcos & Wal-Marts, large SUVs (with "Nobama" bumper stickers), high school football teams, megachurches, mostly White people & Republicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Do I have to?



    Thanks JQ for the correction. Of course it WAS a small town, originally. But I'm old enough to even remember when PLANO was a small town, but is now one of the largest suburbs in the entire United States. And...San Antonio had very few suburbs at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    It doesn't sound like anyone likes the town of Frisco, Texas.

    One person's opinion:

    Doesn't sound too appealing.
    Kind of sounds like "our" Naperville.

    Even though it's a "traditional" stand-alone town, I find Lufkin considerably less appealing than I imagine Frisco to be, and El Paso doesn't exactly appeal to me either, but that might not be accurate. I'm not entirely sure I've been IN Frisco, though I've been in most parts of the Metroplex.

    But, hey, if you live in a state, most states have at least one place people love to "hate on." The consensus isn't always statewide, though. People way out in Lubbock or Victoria probably find some place closer to hate on, and likely have no opinion on Frisco.

    In California, it often seems to be Bakersfield, sometimes Fresno. Usually not "Frisco" though - OOPS...

    In my state, Joliet is a common target, so is Rockford...for deep down-staters it's East St. Louis, Anna, Cairo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    A little bit of San Francisco trivia.....

    I love Tony Bennett...a lot...and the song he made famous will always be one of my favorites...I think it is a beautiful tribute to the City by the Bay....

    ...the really cool trivia bit is the songwriters were a gay couple and World War 2 Vets.... George Cory and Douglass Cross......who wrote the song after moving away and missing San Francisco....

    http://www.queerty.com/lounge-legend...fame-20120222/

    I love the story and I love that a gay couple wrote the song...I think of them now whenever I hear their song...
    I hate to go off-topic... but "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" almost ended up as a flip slide. Columbia Records, in their infinite wisdom, wanted Tony to cut a single entitled "This is All I Ask" - a good song in its own right. However, Tony Bennett, the consummate artist that he is, insisted on "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" and the rest as they say, is history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    I hate to go off-topic... but "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" almost ended up as a flip slide. Columbia Records, in their infinite wisdom, wanted Tony to cut a single entitled "This is All I Ask" - a good song in its own right. However, Tony Bennett, the consummate artist that he is, insisted on "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" and the rest as they say, is history.
    Stay on topic, please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Stay on topic, please...

    Just what is the topic?

    1) The Occupy movement
    2) Vandals attacking a bus
    3) calling the city Frisco vs San Francisco
    4) Frisco, Texas
    5) Your sexual fantasies about hot white masculine men

    .....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Stay on topic, please...

    You mean your effort to unjustifiably use simple vandalism to smear a patriotic movement? That topic?

    When you pull baiting stunts like this, you make yourself the topic. Be thankful that people are being reasonably polite by talking about inconsequentials.

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    Can the moderator please remove the lies out of JayQueers original post by removing Occupy references that are not present in the original story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    You mean your effort to unjustifiably use simple vandalism to smear a patriotic movement? That topic?
    The Occupy protests were not patriotic, IMO. Neither was Edward Snowden or Bradley/Chelsea Manning leaking US security info on a Lady Gaga CD.

    Patriotic is supporting our brave men & women who serve in our military.

    Despite certain JUB members giving speeches at Occupy protests, it didn't accomplish anything. They were complaining about the "1%" controlling most of the wealth. Now it's been a few yrs later. Has anything changed? Nope. The extremely wealthy have fared better under Obama's presidency than any other group.

    The Occupy folks caused millions of dollars in damage to major cities like Los Angeles. They camped out in front of the City Hall and they damaged public property.......which the taxpayers had to pay to repair. In New York, taxpayers had to pay extra money for police and fumigation because of the rapes that were happening & to prevent diseases breaking out because hordes of people camped out for weeks without showering & without clean water to drink.

    Which brings back to this story about the protesters in SF. They are mad about being evicted & not enough affordable housing. Screaming, blocking commuter traffic & throwing rocks at buses and slashing tires will not solve the problem. Their strategies appear to be very "Occupy-esque". It might get them short term attention, but in the end it will fix nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Can the moderator please remove the lies out of JayQueers original post by removing Occupy references that are not present in the original story?
    This.

    It is so fucking annoying. I guess though that we were lucky that he didn't work his white masculine guy fantasies into the OP. It took until post 30 for it to happen. Barf.

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    Re: Occupy 2.0: San Francisco activists vandalize Silcon Valley buses

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    I hate to go off-topic... but "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" almost ended up as a flip slide. Columbia Records, in their infinite wisdom, wanted Tony to cut a single entitled "This is All I Ask" - a good song in its own right. However, Tony Bennett, the consummate artist that he is, insisted on "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" and the rest as they say, is history.
    It is hard to be "off topic" in this thread...and what you said is more interesting than the OP because it is true

    Gotta love Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    The Occupy protests were not patriotic, IMO. Neither was Edward Snowden or Bradley/Chelsea Manning leaking US security info on a Lady Gaga CD.

    Patriotic is supporting our brave men & women who serve in our military.

    <snip>
    This is really a cop out.

    Of course the Occupy movement is patriotic. The Occupy supporters don't want the country to turn into a plutocracy which republicans want. And why are you dragging Snowdon and Manning into the discussion?

    And just saying you support the troops isn't patriotic. Slapping a magnetic Support the Troops ribbon on your gas guzzling SUV isn't patriotism. How about joining the military or any group that's out to destroy the American way of life.... that's patriotism. Drive something that doesn't require lots of gasoline. Use alternative energy instead of importing it from countries we have to keep going into and fighting these wars for the oil companies. Assist those who have little or nothing....make sure they're educated, housed, fed, clothed.

    That's patriotism.

    It's certainly not the Mitt Romney / Newt Gingrich / Rush Limbaugh / Fox News brand of patriotism they preach.

    And admit you lied. The bus vandalism had nothing to do with the Occupy movement.

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    I find it interesting how jokes about 'Fresco' and JQ's already admitted to lie or 'jest' in the title has managed to completely prevent any real discussion on the actual subject.

    My understanding is the protest revolves around what is described as the 'gentrification' of San Francisco by increasing numbers of high tech workers being drawn to the city by Google and other high tech companies. The rents have been rising as a consequence. Yet having such companies contributing to a city's tax base is usually considered a good thing. Similarly, that the companies provide bus service to reduce the traffic congestion of their added work force is also usually considered a sign of social responsibility.

    From what I've read so far, there is some question of the provided buses eating into the public transit system's profitability but I'm not sure why if the transit system isn't providing this service. It seems likely an accommodation could be reached on that point easily enough since the buses use the public bus stops, a fee for service arrangement should address it.

    How much damage did these protesters do anyway? Did they actually vandalize the buses or something else?

    I'm also curious about the staged incident designed to make Google employees look bad by a union activist. He seems to have intentionally mixed in with the Google Employees in order to set up a staged video incident for the news cameras:
    The San Francisco Bay Guardian captured this almost comedically repulsive exchange between private shuttle protestors and a man who personifies almost every single thing worth protesting:

    In the video, a Google employee who hopped off the bus shouts down Erin McElroy, a protester who also heads the eviction mapping project. "How long have you lived in this city?" McElroy asked him. He shouted back "Why don't you go to a city that can afford it? This is a city for the right people who can afford it. You can't afford it? You can leave. I'm sorry, get a better job."
    When I first read this story all the coverage focused on this incident as an example on the 'evilness' of Google only to find out a day later that it was staged.

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    The Union guy impersonating the Google employee says his hoax was "improvised political theater".
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    Patriotic is supporting our brave men & women who serve in our military.
    That's incredibly shallow.

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    ^That's Jayqueer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Which brings back to this story about the protesters in SF. They are mad about being evicted & not enough affordable housing. Screaming, blocking commuter traffic & throwing rocks at buses and slashing tires will not solve the problem. Their strategies appear to be very "Occupy-esque". It might get them short term attention, but in the end it will fix nothing.
    Their strategies are less "Occupy-esque" than the GOP's are like Attila the Hun. That you can claim a similarity shows you have never looked at the Occupy movement.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    I find it interesting how jokes about 'Fresco' and JQ's already admitted to lie or 'jest' in the title has managed to completely prevent any real discussion on the actual subject.

    My understanding is the protest revolves around what is described as the 'gentrification' of San Francisco by increasing numbers of high tech workers being drawn to the city by Google and other high tech companies. The rents have been rising as a consequence. Yet having such companies contributing to a city's tax base is usually considered a good thing. Similarly, that the companies provide bus service to reduce the traffic congestion of their added work force is also usually considered a sign of social responsibility.
    The high housing costs are the result more of a liberal policy than anything due to high tech companies: packing more and more people into a fixed amount of land. That ensures that housing costs are going to go nowhere but upward.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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