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    Re: I have honestly had fucking ENOUGH of the puritanism in U.S society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Thank you, sir. Now serving #2 in line. #2?



    Respectfully offered, but no. The expectation is not based on smell or sweat or hygiene. It is based on propriety and decency. Nudity is accepted by society in designated places -- at gymnasiums, in swimming areas, even in parades, but not everywhere. These men would not have been waited on in many retail businesses (clothiers, grocery stores, music stores, toy stores, cinemas, malls, etc.) nor any professional offices (lawyers, accountants, medical clinics, etc.) nor any schools (high schools, universities, trade schools.)

    There is a standard of public modesty that is very broadly endorsed and welcomed by the vast majority of society, including immigrants from countries who never saw a Puritan. America and the majority of its parent cultures left the loin cloth stage behind a long time ago. For those who want to be nudists, there is room for them, but not so much arbitrarily in just any public space.




    Maybe at first, but I think there are lots of Joe Average folks at stadia who would have raised the same objections.
    So Americans are prudes who don't really believe in freedom -- I think that was the OP's point.

    They should have just said they were French. I was at Yellowstone once in a line moving up to see some travertine terraces, and there were two guys wearing thongs and thongs -- the second kind being foot gear -- and berets, plus little hip packs. The hip packs had French flags on them. People just looked at them and shrugged, saying, "Those French....."

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    Try uploading pics of guys in Speedos to your Photobucket account. They'll get deleted. I don't mean nudes, just guys in Speedos. I have had dozens of such pics removed.

    Women in bikinis, however, are just fine.
    Time for a discrimination suit.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    I don't really agree with them being kicked out for being shirtless and pantless, but again, this is the NFL - an organization so worried about people sneaking beer in because they don't want to pay extremely high prices for watered down piss that they banned purses(don't know if they overturned that). Seems if they're that strict, banning speedos isn't too big of a stretch to make.
    Stadia really only have two bases for rules: public safety, and making money. If they can argue that being in a speedo is contrary to public safety, that's a rule they can get away with -- or if they can somehow argue that it interferes with their making money, which is why they can keep people from bringing beer in.

    (Though even that last may be on the way out; I read a court case over bringing food into a theater where the judge ruled that so long as a person isn't bringing it in to sell, the theater can't stop them.)

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pigface View Post
    How do Americans cope with this:
    http://www.ssrunners.org/
    ?
    People not mature enough to deal with it go somewhere else.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    I think most Americans are cool with larks, such as no-pants day, etc., but as an ongoing change of standards, only a very small minority would endorse much nudity in the workaday and school worlds.

    Church? Who knows?
    I was actually at a church once when a guy came in shirtless and with cut-offs that were so deteriorated/worn that they didn't cover any more than a speedo... and more unevenly. The delightful thing was that people for the most part treated him the same as anyone else (and those who didn't got a little talk from the pastor).

    And I went to church, as a college student, dressed in tank top and flimsy cutoffs, when a bunch of us went camping but early Sunday morning one of the gals decided we should go to church. We wore what we had, and our presence certainly separated sheep from goats: maybe a third of the people welcomed us without comment, while with a few exceptions the rest disdainfully ignored us -- the exceptions had various self-righteous judgmental holier-than-thou crap to spew.

    The priest worked us into his sermon.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    I blame God.

    Well, George Burns, really, but everyone thought it was too cute when little old 'God', himself, showed up in court wearing a sweat suit and jogging shoes in the movie 'Oh God'. It's been all down hill since then.
    LOL

    I haven't watched that movie in ages.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    God always played on his supposed charm an old codger. He should have moved over to let the next generation have a crack at running things.

    Heaven would be a LOT nicer today if that had happened.
    Heaven's fine -- it's a bunch of its loud-mouthed recruits that are the pain.
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    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: I have honestly had fucking ENOUGH of the puritanism in U.S society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    People just looked at them and shrugged, saying, "Those French....."
    You know good and darned well they were just waiting to bump them over the edge.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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    Re: I have honestly had fucking ENOUGH of the puritanism in U.S society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    You know good and darned well they were just waiting to bump them over the edge.
    I would probably say "Well, I'd fuck them." in a very matter-of-fact manner.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Better if you put it in Francais.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Ayez la gentillesse de vous faire foutre.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    The French are sensible


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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    The French are sensible

    Put the crossout on the other side and there is the good ole' U.S of A.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfan34 View Post
    ...there is the good ole' U.S of A.
    Yes.

    I know Dejavudoo will take offence at what I am about to say. But we in Australia are very conscious of how migrants come to live here but still uphold the values of the society they left decades ago. For instance, Greek women here still wear the 1960s clothes that were fashionable in Greece fifty years ago.

    We like to joke that the USA still upholds the Puritan values which they brought with them on The Mayflower in 1620.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    The French are sensible


    Do you know where that sign was posted?

    The aqua textured wall in the background makes me think that it is at a swimming pool where the filtration system has to be kept clean and unclogged.

    It's just the (international?) 'no cotton'/'no cutoffs'/'no excessive material' rule.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    But we in Australia are very conscious of how migrants come to live here but still uphold the values of the society they left decades ago. For instance, Greek women here still wear the 1960s clothes that were fashionable in Greece fifty years ago.

    We like to joke that the USA still upholds the Puritan values which they brought with them on The Mayflower in 1620.
    Maybe the "banned in Boston" WASP descendants do, but we've had several different waves of immigrants over time - who brought their customs, etc. And some of us mutts have even progressed a bit since then.

    We can't all be so forward thinking as you Aussies, who hold anyone who's ancestor WASN'T a criminal in the original penal colonies is a newbie forever.

    As to the Greek women and 1960's dress - they're probably the women who came over in the '60's - not their granddaughters.


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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    Do you know where that sign was posted?

    The aqua textured wall in the background makes me think that it is at a swimming pool where the filtration system has to be kept clean and unclogged.

    It's just the (international?) 'no cotton'/'no cutoffs'/'no excessive material' rule.
    The reasoning behind banning swimming trunks in France is hygiene. They don't want people wearing their street clothes in the pool for fear that they'll make the water dirty, so they ban anything that could potentially be worn as street clothes. (Most French men wouldn't wear a Speedo in the street, contrary to stereotypes.)
    Recently I heard a 'wise guy' story that I had a party at my home for twenty-five men. It's an interesting story, but I don't know twenty-five men I'd want to invite to a party. ~Joan Crawford

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Cut-offs also pose a problem for filters.


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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Are you offended? JUB is primarily for men.

    So...that STILL doesn't give you or I permission to be misogynistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    So...that STILL doesn't give you or I permission to be misogynistic.
    I can't defend Pat for that particular statement but the rest of us are not women bashing. I think it's more like straight men bashing.

    This is a man's world, a straight man's world and they make the rules. They like seeing women naked not men and so they make those rules and so we have this thread here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    So...that STILL doesn't give you or I permission to be misogynistic.
    Yes. Misogyny must be the second-most offensive sin of all time. But if you are so offended by this so-called Misogyny why don't you mention it at the time instead of being petulant about afterwards?




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    ….We can't all be so forward thinking as you Aussies, who hold anyone who's ancestor WASN'T a criminal in the original penal colonies is a newbie forever….
    No it's only the Irish component of the Australian population who think that; they're the ones who consider up this murdering thief as a "folk-hero of the working class".


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    Speedos let you move freely—



    These make you look like a tool wearing your mother's table-cloth—



    You'd drown if you tried swimming in this table-cloth.
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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    In the U.S. plenty of stores and businesses have signs on the door that say "no shoes, no shirt, no service." I have never yet in my life seen someone ejected for either reason--- then again, I can't recall a shirtless or shoeless guy coming into a store with those signs on the door, either. I'm sure one has at one time or another. In any event, while we could argue how silly or needless or prudish these laws are, so far as I know they do exist and there is the right to enforce them. You just fairly rarely see it done outside of exclusive restaurants or clubs.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    We like to joke that the USA still upholds the Puritan values which they brought with them on The Mayflower in 1620.
    It's not such a joke -- puritanism towards others thrives in both major parties.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    In the U.S. plenty of stores and businesses have signs on the door that say "no shoes, no shirt, no service." ..….
    We used to have heavy laws about hygiene.

    The cafeterias at university occasionally wouldn't allow barefoot students to enter. Bus drivers wouldn't allow shirtless guys. There used to be shallow troughs you had to walk through as you left the change room to enter the swimming pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilBit View Post
    The reasoning behind banning swimming trunks in France is hygiene. They don't want people wearing their street clothes in the pool for fear that they'll make the water dirty, so they ban anything that could potentially be worn as street clothes. (Most French men wouldn't wear a Speedo in the street, contrary to stereotypes.)
    Having managed a swimming pool and worked at others, I have to say that's a good idea. At the outdoor apartment complex pool I was in charge of, there was no way to stop people from just jumping in wearing the same shorts they'd just been playing football in, and the filters showed the strain -- I had to purge them as often as the pool manager at an indoor aquatics center where there were five times the people and twenty times the water volume.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Cut-offs also pose a problem for filters.
    Not so much these days; the pre-filter screens even fifteen years ago handled the gross fiber, and the macrofilters caught the lint-type stuff. Actually the biggest headache (from anything cotton) is that when there's a lot of lint in the macrofilters, lots the body oils and dead skin cells and crap that flow through the system get caught there, meaning they have to be changed more often -- though the flip side is that then the primary filters stay clean longer.

    Back when there were only sand filters, everyone swam naked, because ANY fiber was a pain.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    In the U.S. plenty of stores and businesses have signs on the door that say "no shoes, no shirt, no service." I have never yet in my life seen someone ejected for either reason--- then again, I can't recall a shirtless or shoeless guy coming into a store with those signs on the door, either. I'm sure one has at one time or another. In any event, while we could argue how silly or needless or prudish these laws are, so far as I know they do exist and there is the right to enforce them. You just fairly rarely see it done outside of exclusive restaurants or clubs.
    Hygeine is a legitimate reason for clothing rules; prudery is not. Oh, BTW -- there is no "right" to enforce laws, only authority.

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    We used to have heavy laws about hygiene.

    The cafeterias at university occasionally wouldn't allow barefoot students to enter. Bus drivers wouldn't allow shirtless guys. There used to be shallow troughs you had to walk through as you left the change room to enter the swimming pool.
    Hygeine is a legitimate reason for clothing rules; prudery is not. Oh, BTW -- there is no "right" to enforce laws, only authority.

    Those foot baths before entering a public swimming pool are a very good idea -- feet, even when they've been inside shoes, are filthy. The pools where I've worked that had those had almost no complaints of athlete's foot; the others did. Without the foot baths, for health's sake you have to keep a higher chlorine count in the pool plus sanitize the pool deck frequently.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Hygeine is a legitimate reason for clothing rules; prudery is not.
    This sounds like opinion; it also strikes me as opinion to decide what is prudery and what isn't. Even if a guy brought a sanitizer along with him to clean a bench after he sat there naked throughout the game, I'd be uncomfortable with him doing so, and don't mind that laws disallow him from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    ...Even if a guy brought a sanitizer along with him to clean a bench after he sat there naked throughout the game, I'd be uncomfortable with him doing so,...
    Me too. But I've noticed that most guys who hold nudie parties ask us to bring a towel with us.

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Mancheeks!! Boof,boof, aaarrf!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Yes. Misogyny must be the second-most offensive sin of all time. But if you are so offended by this so-called Misogyny why don't you mention it at the time instead of being petulant about afterwards?




    .
    Maybe because I have a life and choose to not frequent this site as much as I used to...

    If you contributed as much logic and coherent thoughts as the usual bullshit you post then maybe someone would take your opinion seriously...

    As of now, you are the resident obtuse moron trolling with B.S.
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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ne...beating/nLw8F/

    If these really are the guys, then I would love to take the bearded one, tie him to my bed, hatefuck the living shit out of him and then kick the living shit out of him for beating up that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    ...you are the resident obtuse moron trolling with B.S.
    So does that make me one of the pack you mention in your avatar picture?

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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    This sounds like opinion; it also strikes me as opinion to decide what is prudery and what isn't. Even if a guy brought a sanitizer along with him to clean a bench after he sat there naked throughout the game, I'd be uncomfortable with him doing so, and don't mind that laws disallow him from doing it.
    It is not the function of law to help you avoid discomfort.

    Prudery is a way of blaming other people's behavior for one's own prejudices.

    As for someone being naked at a game, the stadium has a legitimate interest in keeping people's attention on their attraction and not having significantly competing distractions. That's a reasonable basis for forbidding nudity in the stands.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    So does that make me one of the pack you mention in your avatar picture?
    This would all be so much more poignant if you were displaying your original avi.

    Wave that flag, Honey.
    Last edited by Native Son; December 25th, 2013 at 12:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    As for someone being naked at a game, the stadium has a legitimate interest in keeping people's attention on their attraction and not having significantly competing distractions. That's a reasonable basis for forbidding nudity in the stands.
    Are you for real?

    You truly are a libertarian. Props, my bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    As for someone being naked at a game, the stadium has a legitimate interest in keeping people's attention on their attraction and not having significantly competing distractions. That's a reasonable basis for forbidding nudity in the stands.

    "Our game is more boring than a naked stranger."


    Well, true.


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    Re: Guy In Speedo Gets Kicked Out Of NFL Football Game [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    "Our game is more boring than a naked stranger."


    Well, true.


    LOL

    It's basically the same thing the courts said when school dress codes were finally tossed out: anything goes so long as it doesn't detract or distract from the purpose of the institution.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    One sees much more inappropriate stuff in Walmart

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    It seems the Americans of 1934 weren't as prudish as those of 2013.

    Viz 0.45.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    So does that make me one of the pack you mention in your avatar picture?
    No, it just makes you an obnoxious and patronizing heel whose opinion until proven otherwise is about as useless and rhetorical as knowing water is wet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    It seems the Americans of 1934 weren't as prudish as those of 2013.

    Viz 0.45.

    What a typically absurd Hollywood set. The shower stalls had privacy panels that were plexiglass for the upper half! It is obvious that it was a set design eccentricity to enable the camera to film faces in the scenes. Who the hell puts in privacy panels that are then transparent from the waist up, as if you couldn't look down through them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Yes.

    I know Dejavudoo will take offence at what I am about to say. But we in Australia are very conscious of how migrants come to live here but still uphold the values of the society they left decades ago. For instance, Greek women here still wear the 1960s clothes that were fashionable in Greece fifty years ago.

    We like to joke that the USA still upholds the Puritan values which they brought with them on The Mayflower in 1620.
    No, I'm not offended. Puritanism takes the brunt of attack from those who espouse socially liberal ideas of nudism, prostitution, etc. I'm OK with that. I think at some point, liberal social ideas reach the limit of common sense and ask society to believe something that is not true. An example would be the argument that prudery is the problem of the beholder. That's really bollocks, to quote the Brits. It has become fashionable to claim that sexually explicit clothing is nothing of the sort. That's imply disingenuous.

    Society allows for near-nudity in some sports and swimming areas. That same level of nudity is not acceptable in most other areas of society, and unwelcome when the social gathering is for other purposes (restaurant, library, court.)

    After all the howling is said and done about prudery, there's not a court in the world that would tolerate similar skimpy attire in its proceedings, as it implies a certain degree of disrespect. The Speedo would be both unwelcome in a lawyer, litigant/defendant, audience member, or reporter.

    If a parent doesn't want a trip to the library with a child to become a distracted episode about the near-naked man, that parent has a legitimate argument to make about a dress code in the public library, and it is not because the parent doesn't allow the same toddler to go to a swim meet and see the same male nudity. All nudity is not equal, and the setting is relevant.

    Inconsistent is not a significant argument when analyzing the acceptability of nudism in its varying degrees. And hygiene is not the sufficient standard either, as women can be wearing little of anything underneath when using public transportation. Of course, for a site that touts rimming all the time, it is richly ironic to find any fecal contamination objections presented in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    It seems the Americans of 1934 weren't as prudish as those of 2013.

    Viz 0.45.

    I don't know about the natives, but the accent of that flat-chested hunk sounds pretty rotten to me... argh.

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    One of the idiosyncrasies of the cinema industry is that it has evolved to retain the Southern accent as a trope for backwater, but excise most inclusion of working class Northeast accents that would similarly cast New Yorkers and others in an unflattering light.

    It is not a universal rule, but it is a common enough bias that you can easily see the pattern when canvassing a broad range of movies. Archie Bunkers are not to be heard in most modern movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    One of the idiosyncrasies of the cinema industry is that it has evolved to retain the Southern accent as a trope for backwater, but excise most inclusion of working class Northeast accents that would similarly cast New Yorkers and others in an unflattering light.

    It is not a universal rule, but it is a common enough bias that you can easily see the pattern when canvassing a broad range of movies. Archie Bunkers are not to be heard in most modern movies.


    Are those two the people who had the seats replicated at a centuplicated cost for some TV museum?

    Vudoo, that's how all societies, anytime, work... a different thing is that you may be discovering that through TV shows and cinema.
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    My point is merely that there is a built-in bias to portray New York as a cultural Mecca, avoiding the working class population that is every bit as stigmatized as any Deliverance stereotype. Noses on the East Coast grow longer than in many parts of the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    My point is merely that there is a built-in bias to portray New York as a cultural Mecca, avoiding the working class population that is every bit as stigmatized as any Deliverance stereotype. Noses on the East Coast grow longer than in many parts of the U.S.
    If you are talking about New York as a state, how would that be otherwise when even NYC, which is taken to represent "New York" as a concept including srtate, city or whatever else, is reduced to Manhattan Island?

    As I said, it's not just that it happens also with BCN being represented as a gaudicised version of Southern Spain, or Europe as Paris, France and Venice, Italy, it's the way people think and communicate by dumbing down reality to made-up essentials and good and bad bipartisanship, the bad being always "the other", "bad" ranging from wasting public money to speaking in an unrelated sort of accent.

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