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    Re: HBO's new show "Looking" starring Jonathan Groff

    checking

    listen, whether the data us real half truth or not.

    The point is inclusion of a dark male is necessary in my opinion

    whether there are not many black people in sanfrancisco or not does not make it right not to inlcude one.

    plus tehre are many talented dark skin actors, thats not an excuse.

    at the end of the day we all have our opinons.

    I hope next season they do include a dark skin black male. i feel this show has a very good potential. they need to open it up some more.

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    You are putting words in my words. I didn't say we should just live with all these things you have listed. I only meant the way we are sometimes portrayed in the media. Black, old, trans; whatever. All the things you listed are social wrongs that do need changed and no we shouldn't just live with those. It is fucked up.
    we shouldnt live with racism or ageism amongst the gay community either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRUGER View Post
    I hope next season they do include a dark skin black male.
    they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRUGER View Post
    the point is man, there is always the representation in the gay culture of the preference of a lighter skin black guy than a dark skin one.
    OK this is a good point.

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    I fail to see what difference it would make if there was a dark skin versus a light skin black person....

    As I said before...I think this series is perfect for what it is at the moment. I also say that about the series Soul Food...never missed an episode. The cast was all black..they were all great. I loved the show. I don't think it would have been any better if they had racial diversity. It was perfect just the way it was. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I fail to see what difference it would make if there was a dark skin versus a light skin black person....

    As I said before...I think this series is perfect for what it is at the moment. I also say that about the series Soul Food...never missed an episode. The cast was all black..they were all great. I loved the show. I don't think it would have been any better if they had racial diversity. It was perfect just the way it was. Period.
    This is my point also. I just can't see the difference between having a light-skinned black guy or a dark skinned guy. As I stated before I loved Noahs Arc. There was no white main character and there was no need to have one. It was about a group of black friends and that was the focus, as it should be. I don't understand why everything written, filmed, etc. has to always be diverse. Life certainly isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibill1 View Post
    I don't understand why everything written, filmed, etc. has to always be diverse. Life certainly isn't.
    Actually life IS diverse and that's the point. Only certain pockets of certain communities cull their lives in a way to preclude diversity and that isn't something anyone should be proud of.

    I don't think Taralen picks and chooses his battles carefully, and I still think Looking is diverse for having people of color on it. However, the discussion of skin color is an important one and I'm glad Taralen and RRuger brought it up. Unfortunately though, that's a problem across the board in film and television, not something particular to this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Actually life IS diverse and that's the point. Only certain pockets of certain communities cull their lives in a way to preclude diversity and that isn't something anyone should be proud of.

    I don't think Taralen picks and chooses his battles carefully, and I still think Looking is diverse for having people of color on it. However, the discussion of skin color is an important one and I'm glad Taralen and RRuger brought it up. Unfortunately though, that's a problem across the board in film and television, not something particular to this show.

    sgt pepper, I couldnt agree more.

    well said

  8. #208

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibill1 View Post
    This is my point also. I just can't see the difference between having a light-skinned black guy or a dark skinned guy. As I stated before I loved Noahs Arc. There was no white main character and there was no need to have one. It was about a group of black friends and that was the focus, as it should be. I don't understand why everything written, filmed, etc. has to always be diverse. Life certainly isn't.
    We saw white people in NOAHS arc

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    they won't.
    unfortunate

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    Now watching through the whole season and now that we know the backstories a little bit, i think Season 2 will be like night and day! I can't wait!

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    Love Richie. The chemistry between him and Patrick is so hot!!!

    Can't stand Agustin!

    Cannot wait for season 2

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    Re: HBO's new show "Looking" starring Jonathan Groff

    just finished watching- started slow, but got better. They can get rid of the Augustine character- no interest in him- total dick....give us more Dom!

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    I'm going to be careful with how I say this.

    I enjoyed the show. Think it's great, honestly in my top ten.

    I also think there's something off about gay culture in the United States and race, but I'd warn anyone who is paying much attention to that fact to be careful. The more you notice it and give your voice to complaints about it the more it will show up in your lived experience. That's really "woo," but I've found it to be true.

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    I'm surprised the show actually grew on me before the end of season 1 (and not just because of Tovey's ass lol). I'm really looking forward to the second season now. looks good.

    gotta go back and binge-watch the first again so I can "refresh" myself on things.



    I wish I didn't have to look at Augustin though. ugh Can't stand that dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taralen View Post
    they won't.
    I think they are, actually.

    Looks like a guy Doris will be dating is dark-skinned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleheart View Post
    I think they are, actually.

    Looks like a guy Doris will be dating is dark-skinned?
    Yeah but it looks like he's straight so no I'm still scarred from watching the season 1 pilot. It's better for me not to watch than to watch and bitch.
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    Just watched the first episode myself, not bad. I can see myself really getting into it.
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    A week from tonight, Sunday, the second season of Looking premieres. Looking forward to looking. hahaha

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    4 days until the new season. I just started the 1st season again this evening, it will give me time to refresh the memories so I can be ready for what comes on Sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    4 days until the new season. I just started the 1st season again this evening, it will give me time to refresh the memories so I can be ready for what comes on Sunday
    I did that last weekend and enjoyed it more the second time around.
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    'Looking's' Scott Bakula: In Season 2, Lynn and Dom have 'advanced' their relationship


    "Looking" fans were a little worried that Scott Bakula booking "NCIS: New Orleans" at CBS would mean he couldn't be a part of the HBO dramedy's second season. However, both shows made it work, for which Bakula tells Zap2it he is immensely grateful.

    "In September and half of October ... I shot in New Orleans until 2 or 3 in the morning on Saturdays and went straight to the airport and shot in San Francisco until 2 or 3 in the morning on Sundays. A couple of those ran me ragged," Bakula says with a laugh. "But it worked out, everybody made it work in both camps, and I really appreciated it."

    Bakula also teases that while he can't reveal too much about Season 2, fans can look forward to his character of Lynn and Lynn's partner Dom (Murray Bartlett) having taken their relationship to the next level from where they left off in Season 1.


    "Our relationship has definitely advanced from when you last saw us in the end of the first season," says Bakula. "They've crossed into a different kind of relationship, clearly a physical and ... not co-habitating, but with a definite comfort. They've tried to take the work aspect out of it, and we're certainly enjoying each other's company."

    Like any relationship, though, it isn't purely smooth sailing. In Lynn and Dom's case, most of the conflict comes from the fact that there is an age difference and they are in different stages of their lives.

    "We have a situation where I'm in a different place in my life than he is, so that continues to create issues of what people want at different times in their lives and what their levels of commitment and acceptance can be," says Bakula. "We're exploring all that good relationship stuff, it's pretty interesting. Lot of heart."

    "Looking" returns Sunday, Jan. 11 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on HBO.
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    Get ready!!!!

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    Season 2, episode 1 and my favorite character was a no-show. I'm a little disappointed. Hope this isn't a trend.

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    I liked the first episode from the new season, had a good laugh over some stuff (no spoilers!). Better than the Girls season premiere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadaa View Post
    Season 2, episode 1 and my favorite character was a no-show. I'm a little disappointed. Hope this isn't a trend.
    Richie?? Yea He needs to be on the rest of the episodes for sure. But I did enjoy this one marginally...

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    I just do not understand the motivation behind the relationship between Patrick and Kevin (is that his name.... Patrick's boss?).
    I understand Kevin's motivation more. He's frustrated with his current relationship and the one other gay man in the work place requires little effort and less to hide, in comparison to seeking out someone to cheat with.
    But why drive out to the middle of nowhere for this party just to have sex with Patrick? There is very little, if any, chemistry between these two people. Their relationship is opportunistic in nature.
    If Patrick is supposed to feel something for this person, outside of sex, than it hasn't really been conveyed. I think it was exciting for him to work with an attractive gay man, again opportunist. Does he just need someone to pay attention to him that badly? That could be. It's clearly more than sex for him at this point. If it was just sex he wants, than why call Kevin? Why not hook up with random hot guy in the forest?
    I'm hoping it becomes clearer. And maybe this says more about Patrick than I'm giving the show and the actors credit for, but neither character seems all that interested in each other.

    I have to say I was expecting Lynn to show up and catch Dom cheating. But apparently it's an open relationship.

    Based on the trailers for the rest of the season, it looks like Doris might have an actual story arc and exist as something more than "I'm a straight single woman spending all my time with gay men! HAHA!". Though it is funny that the straight woman in the show about gay men is the amusing outsider.

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    I know I'm (most likely) in the minority, but does anyone else not like Doris?

    It seems like a lot of people just adore her. I don't. In fact, I find her annoying and can do without having her around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleheart View Post
    I know I'm (most likely) in the minority, but does anyone else not like Doris?

    It seems like a lot of people just adore her. I don't. In fact, I find her annoying and can do without having her around.
    I can see why she could be annoying, but she tells it like it is and the boys need that from time to time
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    Re: HBO's new show "Looking" starring Jonathan Groff

    I don't adore her. She actually reminds me a lot of my boyfriend's best friend, a forty-something straight alcoholic who is loud and argumentative and a demanding center of attention. Good-hearted, but narcissistic.

    I do think she provides an energy the show often needs when the main characters are too often regretting their poor life choices or wallowing in confusion, insecurity, and/or a lack of fulfillment. But I don't think any of the characters are particularly "likable". This isn't that kind of show. I mean, everyone likes Richie because he's cute, romantic, sensitive, and seemingly genuine and can provide our protagonist with what he SHOULD want. But he isn't a main character for a reason.

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