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    Uncle Sam's new toy

    Gotta watch this -- it's almost eerie.





    Now, just how smart is it?

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    that is just AWESOME!!

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    That is cool and I am a Navy man, but, my preference is the Tin Can. That's Destroyer for you unNavy. Our job was to follow the Aircraft Carriers so if one of the pilots had to ditch we could pick him up, but not the plane. In fact, my not being there at the right time, my ship USS Leonard F. Mason picked up one of the Astronauts AFTER I left it.
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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    If these planes are not manned, why is the marshaller providing direction?

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Very impressive!

    The Northrop Grumman X-47B is a demonstration unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) designed for carrier-based operations. Developed by the American defense technology company Northrop Grumman, the X-47 project began as part of DARPA's J-UCAS program, and is now part of the United States Navy's Unmanned Combat Air System Demonstration (UCAS-D) program. The X-47B first flew in 2011, and as of 2013, it is undergoing flight testing, having successfully performed a series of land- and carrier-based demonstrations.[2][3][4] Northrop Grumman intends to develop the prototype X-47B into a battlefield-ready aircraft, the Unmanned Carrier-Launched Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) system, which will enter service by 2019.[5]

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    If these planes are not manned, why is the marshaller providing direction?
    They are manned - remotely. It moved under its own power to the cat. It then creeps forward to lock into the cat bar. The portion of the video that showed a bunch of people soaking up electrons in a dark room??? The guy in the middle wearing a green jacket is likely the trained aviator flying the bird. The Shooter (that is the guy I think you are referring to in yellow and you call a marshaller) shoots the CAT and is an officer typically but can be Chiefs (Senior Enlisted) as well. Well the shooter not only shoots the cat but attempts to maintain order about the deck. That was a single test launch with a shit ton of lookie lous standing about. The shooter uses hand signals to alert the other leaders on the deck and actually in the deck (in front of him in the bubble) to the impending launch. It has to always follow a coordinated sequence so that you can then weave all four CATs into the picture launching all one after the other or simultaneously without lopping someones head, arms, or legs off.

    Couple of strange and random facts you didnt ask me for... but the shooters are all usually pilots doing a 'ship' tour where they control the flight deck for the folks actually launching. Since they are pilots and loath the idea of being a ships crew it has become ceremony for them to CAT launch their boots off the deck on their last cruise before taking back to the squadrons and flying full time.

    I also left out many watch stations so I didnt have to explain them all but it takes around 300 dedicated to launch an aircraft and be able to do it 24/7. Then it takes an additional 4000 people to feed, shelter, propel, drive the ship, maintain the birds..... well you get idea.
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    I agree it is impressive and it is heartening to see we may be capable of using force without loss of life. That is also a warning. War should not be too easy to execute or it will become commonplace.... wait ... is it already too easy???
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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    When do we get one that doesn't need a "pilot" on the carrier?

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Nice toy........it says, don't f**k with us!!
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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    When do we get one that doesn't need a "pilot" on the carrier?
    Ahhh but you do need a pilot, a harbor pilot. To navigate into tight constrained spaces in port areas. We also occasionally fly on pilots from the Airforce so they can communicate with their folks and arrange fuel for the warbirds.... but otherwise it is naval aviators.
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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    When do we get one that doesn't need a "pilot" on the carrier?
    I believe Cyberdyne Systems is the defense contractor for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    When do we get one that doesn't need a "pilot" on the carrier?
    When all labor has been replaced by robots and we live in a post-economic society. I'm not waiting up for it just yet.

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Ahhh but you do need a pilot, a harbor pilot. To navigate into tight constrained spaces in port areas. We also occasionally fly on pilots from the Airforce so they can communicate with their folks and arrange fuel for the warbirds.... but otherwise it is naval aviators.
    LOL I'd love to see a harbor pilot 'fly' one of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I believe Cyberdyne Systems is the defense contractor for that.
    I wondered who would bring that in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin View Post
    When all labor has been replaced by robots and we live in a post-economic society. I'm not waiting up for it just yet.
    I wouldn't be surprised to see it in my lifetime. OTOH, I don't look forward to the transition, which could be violent.

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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    That is cool and I am a Navy man, but, my preference is the Tin Can. That's Destroyer for you unNavy. Our job was to follow the Aircraft Carriers so if one of the pilots had to ditch we could pick him up, but not the plane. In fact, my not being there at the right time, my ship USS Leonard F. Mason picked up one of the Astronauts AFTER I left it.
    Really????

    *checks fountain of all knowledge* (Wikipedia)

    *collates info*

    Gemini 8 launched with two astronauts, David Scott, and (the one-and-only) Neil Armstrong, on March 16, 1966, and landed next day, massively off target, in the waters near Okinawa.

    I knew before I looked that it must have been waaaayyyy back (pre-Shuttle) because ships haven't needed to pick up American astronauts from splashdowns at sea since the Apollo days.

    You were serving on ship before 1966???? Wow.

    It says the ship was based in Japan at the time and then served during the early stages of Vietnam.


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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    Really????

    *checks fountain of all knowledge* (Wikipedia)

    *collates info*

    Gemini 8 launched with two astronauts, David Scott, and (the one-and-only) Neil Armstrong, on March 16, 1966, and landed next day, massively off target, in the waters near Okinawa.

    I knew before I looked that it must have been waaaayyyy back (pre-Shuttle) because ships haven't needed to pick up American astronauts from splashdowns at sea since the Apollo days.

    You were serving on ship before 1966???? Wow.

    It says the ship was based in Japan at the time and then served during the early stages of Vietnam.

    First, let me thank you for the comment. For some reason I didn't go back to the thread and failed to see your post.
    Thanks for the information you supplied. I knew the ship picked up someone, I thought it was Neil, but didn't research it for the thread.
    And, yes, whippersnapper, I was on the LFMason from 1962-64. I loved it. It got sold to Taiwan who ended up sinking it offshore to form a reef. It was a beautiful Destroyer but was remodeled in 64 in Boston and they ruined it.



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    Re: Uncle Sam's new toy

    Thanks for this reply White Eagle, it's all very interesting.

    I was on the LFMason from 1962-64. I loved it.
    You should write down your experiences in some form like a journal or something, or perhaps the military should have an audio archive of personal recollections, as I'm sure there are many stories of the places you visited - plus also in your case the perspectives of a gay man serving in the military in the 1960's.

    My maternal grandfather and two uncles all served on ships at some point, the former was in the Atlantic convoys during WWII, and of the latter two, one was in a long-lived career in the Merchant Navy about 1950's/1960's, but the other died at just 21 in an accident while the ship was in port in around 1958.

    I always wish the other uncle (who passed away in 2010) had written down his memories as he always spoke in a kind of ship-mate lingo with all these phrases and terms - especially if he'd had a drink or two.

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