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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Bullying is how children currently avoid confrontation in about 60% of the cases. You are not being bullied. You are being held accountable. There is a difference.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I have no idea how Baldwin voted. I'll take a wild guess and say that he probably doesn't even vote.

    Amazing, you're gonna give him a pass because of his politics.
    Nobody is giving Baldwin a pass.

    What we take exception to is the only time you care about gay rights is when a liberal spouts a gay slur. You said yourself that employers should be able to fire gays, so how is that platform to complain about gay slurs?
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    My priorities consist of living openly as a gay man. Some people may not like that I'm gay, but they also respect that, in the United States, I have the freedom to live my life as I see fit.
    You? Openly as a gay man? You're the biggest closet case we've got on here!

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    "Sweet"?

    You defend people who want to persecute gays because they're members of a party that persecutes gays, based on the claim that that party is conservative, while most of its policies are anti-people and reactionary, and then you jump out and attack people from the other big party when they do the very things you take in stride from your own party.

    How is that "sweet"?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    No you silly man! Three times in a row,is a marriage proposal.

    I thought three times in a row meant Beatlejuice showed up. hmmm lol

    seriously though. Alec Baldwin is a loose cannon. He's done similar things like this before and then apologized to the gay community and was forgiven because he's "supported the cause" in the past. I don't like him, never have and I'm offended by what he has said more than once. I understand the paparazzi is scum and I'd get more than tired of them following me around. However he needs some anger management and the gay community needs to stop giving him a pass .

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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    My priorities consist of living openly as a gay man. Some people may not like that I'm gay, but they also respect that, in the United States, I have the freedom to live my life as I see fit.
    In post after post in these fora, JQ, you persistently back ideology and politicians who would prevent gays from having the freedom to live life "as we see fit" or on equal terms with straights.

    Your priority is not "living openly as a gay man," it is preventing gays everywhere from enjoying rights as human beings.

    You complain that some actor slandered gays in an angry moment, but you thought it was just fine that your presidential candidate bullied gays when he was in school, prevented Massachusetts from acknowledging gay couples as parents when he was governor, and would have done everything in his power as president to stop gay marriage in America.

    You seem to believe that if you find one person of liberal persuasion who is homophobic that that makes it okay for all Republicans to be homophobic, all the time. It does not. We do not support people like Alec Baldwin when they spew hatred. Why do you support Republicans who do the same (and even as a matter of policy!)?


    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Precisely.

    You do what you can in life to prevent us from enjoying human rights. Then you apologize for your homophobic behavior, as if it was some sort of isolated and irrational episode. You are rather like Alec Baldwin in that regard.

    But he isn't trying to take our rights away.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    In post after post in these fora, JQ, you persistently back ideology and politicians who would prevent gays from having the freedom to live life "as we see fit" or on equal terms with straights.

    Your priority is not "living openly as a gay man," it is preventing gays everywhere from enjoying rights as human beings.

    You complain that some actor slandered gays in an angry moment, but you thought it was just fine that your presidential candidate bullied gays when he was in school, prevented Massachusetts from acknowledging gay couples as parents when he was governor, and would have done everything in his power as president to stop gay marriage in America.

    You seem to believe that if you find one person of liberal persuasion who is homophobic that that makes it okay for all Republicans to be homophobic, all the time. It does not. We do not support people like Alec Baldwin when they spew hatred. Why do you support Republicans who do the same (and even as a matter of policy!)?
    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.

    Because of the Dems, California is the worst place to do business in the US. They use taxpayer money to build a fantasy high speed railway that has not even started construction. They have created a welfare state where they tax, tax, tax. And meanwhile, they have decided to give more money to union workers, bigger pensions to state employees, drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and use taxpayer money to give illegal immigrants free education at California public universities.

    Wasn't JayHawk who said that one's sexuality is only one part of who one is? That's the way I see it.

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.
    I used to be like that, but not anymore. At least not on the first date. Third date, whole other story..."

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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    ...I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.
    That's an extremely distorted view of US politics.

    Actually, the Democratic Party has moved far to the right since 1988.

    You will not gain from Republican politics unless you make over $250,000 a year, sorry but that is seriously unlikely. Even if you do, when you sell out yourself, and your community, for perceived financial gain, what does that say about your character? Like Judas, and his 30 pieces of silver.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.

    Because of the Dems, California is the worst place to do business in the US. They use taxpayer money to build a fantasy high speed railway that has not even started construction. They have created a welfare state where they tax, tax, tax. And meanwhile, they have decided to give more money to union workers, bigger pensions to state employees, drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and use taxpayer money to give illegal immigrants free education at California public universities.

    Wasn't JayHawk who said that one's sexuality is only one part of who one is? That's the way I see it.

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.

    The reason you started this tread is to complain about a perceived liberal's homophobia. You complain that the liberal community has not punished Alec Baldwin enough!

    Yet, you indulge a political party that prides itself on its anti-gay hatred, you voted homophobically on Prop 8, and you excuse obvious, flaming homophobes (like Mitt Romney) with platitudes when they have an "R" after their names. You have never demanded that Republicans like Romney be punished at all for their disgusting, hurtful behavior (even when it has gone far beyond merely hurtful words).

    Your hypocrisy is stunning.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.
    Obamacare was invented by a right-wing think tank -- there's nothing liberal about it. Obama is more like Eisenhower than any other prior president -- one of the great Republicans.

    BTW, if you want to pick on a president for the piling of regulations on businesses, blame Republican Richard Nixon -- he expanded the federal bureaucracy more massively than any president but FDR, and set an example of handing effective legislative authority to bureaucracies.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Shame on you. No one is bullying you. Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support. You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act. How you voted on Prop 8 is irrelevant to the dozens of threads you've made on JUB criticizing, baiting, and hating on other homosexuals and how they live their lives. You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men. You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold. When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.

    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Shame on you. ...

    You're not a good person. ...



    JB, you are such a scold.

    You obviously come from a religious family because you certainly scold like those very old-fashioned religious people.

    I'll be very curious to see how you will raise your children because I just get the feeling that it's in your genes to will want someone of your own to scold for yourself.






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    ... the hell was that?
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    ^



    ... the hell was that?
    I think Patricia is "fishing",though his bait is poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    ...... the hell was that?
    You won't get adults on the internet to change their attitudes by just scolding them.

    They aren't your children.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.
    Do you suffer from a severe dissociative disorder? ^^^^This^^^^...and pretty much everything else you say...suggests that you do. I would look into that if I were you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Shame on you. No one is bullying you.
    You certainly have been. For quite a while actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support.
    How? Which homophobes? Do you accuse every member of the Log Cabin Republicans of doing what you accuse me of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act.
    No, you've had an axe to grind against me since day one. You even declared that it was your personal mission to have me banned. You would probably be happy if I met the same fate as Tyler Clementi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men.
    Nope. I have said many times that I tend to find white men attractive. Why is it "racist" when I (as a gay man of color) say it, but when numerous other white gay men here say the same thing, then it's just "a personal preference"? And how am I a hatemonger of effeminate gay men when I have some effeminate qualities myself? I'm just not attracted to other fems for a relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold.
    What's wrong with that? We judge other people all the time. It's human nature. You certainly judge me for the political ideologies I hold..

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.
    I have the right to my personal opinions, as does everyone. I respect other people's opinions, even when I disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......you are narrow minded and expect people to agree with your views, whatever they are.

    I'm glad I'm nothing like you.

    I have no interest in communicating with you further. I have asked you several times before to put me on your ignore list, but you clearly wish to troll me. Therefore, I will no longer directly reply to your posts. If you slander me, defame my character or spread false information about me again, I will report you to the mods.
    I used to be like that, but not anymore. At least not on the first date. Third date, whole other story..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    ...you clearly wish to troll me....
    They clearly wish to scold you.

    The PC Brigade think they're superior and they're determined to scold anyone who are different.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    They clearly wish to scold you.

    The PC Brigade think they're superior and they're determined to scold anyone who are different stabs the gay community in the back.
    Fixed it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......you are narrow minded and expect people to agree with your views, whatever they are.
    It is to be expected that criticism follows when one betrays other gays on this forum and in general, speaks out against their rights despite being gay, and votes against their interests. If you can't take it, I suggest leaving because it will never stop, and rightly so. You know where the door is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ... betrays other gays...
    Don't be so paranoid. This is an internet forum; use the Ignore button.

    Scolding other people on an internet forum makes you seem like an old-style religious scold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Don't be so paranoid. This is an internet forum; use the Ignore button.
    We're speaking matters of fact and record, and actually I've been here longer than you so I have seen this pattern many times before including from the moment JayQueer joined.

    Scolding other people on an internet forum makes you seem like an old-style religious scold.
    Pat, you are not much better than he is. Why do you think so many people ignore you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ....Pat, you are not much better than he is. ..
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    What do you mean?
    If you don't know by now, there is little reason for me to start. I will not be trolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    If you don't know by now, there is little reason for me to start. ...
    Fair enough. You spend SO much of your energy and SO much of your anger on the OP and yet you can't be bothered with me.


    As you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Fair enough. You spend SO much of your energy and SO much of your anger on the OP and yet you can't be bothered with me.


    As you wish.
    Well, not me anyway, the other JB and JayHawk, but they're only saying what the rest of us are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ... JB and JayHawk...
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    Airing out complaints about obnoxious and insufferable behavior.

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    Airing out complaints about obnoxious and insufferable behavior.
    Ah! ..................

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    ...And of course...we now have Grimshaw, one of JUB's most infamous scolds, scolding others because he thinks they are scolding JQ.

    In defense of Jayqueer. Who started the thread to scold not Alex Baldwin, but the liberals who haven't complained enough about his paucity of wit and capacity for a clever insult...one notes that while he complains about MSNBC and CNN not lavishing hours and hours on this story...(one notes though that Baldwin has been suspended for several weeks from MSNBC even after apologizing.)...he doesn't mention how many hours that FOX spent expressing outrage on behalf of all the homos who had feelings hurt by Baldwin's language.

    Their take? http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-photographer/

    So JQ. You voted for Prop 8 and consistently have defended the most odious homophobic political candidates because they meet the requirements of your pocketbook. You are totally a one-issue voter and you have demonstrated this again and again. JB has only held a mirror up so that you can see yourself as we see you.

    You have apologized for your insult to the homos for having voted for Prop 8....but I don't see you saying that Baldwin's apology is acceptable and clears the slate?

    And of course Grimshaw. We all see you for what you are as well.

    But the two of you. Please don't ever change. If you didn't exist, we'd have to invent you. Because you are the whetstones against which we can hone our own values and indignation at the hypocrisy of the reactionary outrage of the far right thinking.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Nobody is giving Baldwin a pass.

    What we take exception to is the only time you care about gay rights is when a liberal spouts a gay slur. You said yourself that employers should be able to fire gays, so how is that platform to complain about gay slurs?
    I said that employers could fire gays for being gay? I don't think so.


    Back on topic. I think if we focused on Baldwin and his demeaning behavior instead of beating up on other peoples in this forum we'd all be better off. If certain people don't think other posters are not 'good people' then put them on ignore instead of acting all righteous and uppity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I said that employers could fire gays for being gay? I don't think so.
    You did, but we are not supposed to reference other threads. PM me for the links and I will be happy to direct you to them.

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    I have no idea how Baldwin voted. I'll take a wild guess and say that he probably doesn't even vote.

    Amazing, you're gonna give him a pass because of his politics.
    Baldwin is very political and very active in the civic life of New York City. He was one of the first celebrities, along with Cynthia Nixon, to come out strongly in support of Bill De Blasio in his run for mayor. He was active in De Blasio's campaign. Baldwin is also very active in support of some of our most important cultural institutions. Specifically he has given time and money to the Metropolitan Opera, New York Philharmonic, our classic music station.

    He's a hot-head prone to saying stupid things when he loses his temper. He should enroll in an anger management program. If people cut him some slack, it's not because he is a liberal. It's because he's a good person, a good citizen and puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to trying to make our city and country a better place to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    They clearly wish to scold you.

    The PC Brigade think they're superior and they're determined to scold anyone who are different.
    First of all, if you are willing to sacrifice the civil/human rights of any minority for your own personal gain or for the acceptance of your conservative family or friends then yeah, there are a lot of people who's views are superior to yours. So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    ...And of course...we now have Grimshaw, one of JUB's most infamous scolds, scolding others because he thinks they are scolding JQ.
    Hahah....I was thinking the exact same thing! Irony, thy name is Grimshaw!

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    While you are working to argue with Alnitak about the necessity of forum and differences of opinion, you are yourself expressing a difference of opinion and attempting to scold others into acting the way you do... however you perceive that to be.

    This is my neighborhood, just like the River Quay is where I live in my city. I have a vested interest in ensuring ignorant statements go opposed. The unique thing about this neighborhood is that there are MORE lurkers than posters. I have no idea where they all stand on issues. I cannot allow an ignorant statement like the idea that liberals are just giving Alec Baldwin a pass go unchecked. That might give credence to their opinion.

    I use this in my face to face life. I come across ignorant opinions constantly. I get these guys to air out their opinions so I can either agree with them or defeat them. Having ones arguments in order is a successful way to win debates. I win debates all day long face to face with people who have different opinions. Guess what? I have swayed opinions and I have been swayed.

    So there are two very real and substantial reasons I argue with recalcitrant viewpoints like Jack and JQ. Why do yu choose to nominate yourself the net nanny to coordinate everyone's actions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    Baldwin is an asshole and a liberal asshole at that. Why try to change the subject of the thread to prove your version of gay is better than others.

    I fully agree, I had a stalker also. Things are much better now.
    One version IS better. And it's not changing the subject to point out right wing hypocrisy in making a thread about Alec Baldwin. Who's definitely a "liberal asshole." And yet, YOU have harmed gay rights much more than he ever could. And you never seem to care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    I have no idea how Baldwin voted. I'll take a wild guess and say that he probably doesn't even vote.

    Amazing, you're gonna give him a pass because of his politics.
    Lol, READ THE FUCKING TOPIC! Nobody is giving him a free pass! Comment on the fucking reality, not your spiteful delusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Stuff the whinefest. Nobody is bullying you, we are just calling you on your buckets of bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post

    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.

    Because of the Dems, California is the worst place to do business in the US. They use taxpayer money to build a fantasy high speed railway that has not even started construction. They have created a welfare state where they tax, tax, tax. And meanwhile, they have decided to give more money to union workers, bigger pensions to state employees, drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and use taxpayer money to give illegal immigrants free education at California public universities.

    Wasn't JayHawk who said that one's sexuality is only one part of who one is? That's the way I see it.

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.
    I don't give a flying fuck about how many issues you vote for. My dignity as a human being, what this entire forum is all about, is the SINGLE ISSUE YOU ARE NOT A VOTER OF! So I don't care about your dumb reasons for why you cite against gay rights, only that you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post

    Shame on you. No one is bullying you. Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support. You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act. How you voted on Prop 8 is irrelevant to the dozens of threads you've made on JUB criticizing, baiting, and hating on other homosexuals and how they live their lives. You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men. You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold. When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.

    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
    Very well said. It's sickening.
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    Also, I find the subtle insinuations that there's anything in common between you, JQ, and Tyler Clementy, to be in excessively bad taste. If you're trying to guilt trip us into being "nice" you with vague hints of suicide, you really have the wrong crowd.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I have the right to my personal opinions, as does everyone. I respect other people's opinions, even when I disagree.
    And others have the right to call you on your hypocrisy involving those opinions. This time, you're an incredible hypocrite, claiming your priority is to live out and proud, but advocating policies that mean persecution for those who do.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......
    Actually, he doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I have no interest in communicating with you further. I have asked you several times before to put me on your ignore list, but you clearly wish to troll me. Therefore, I will no longer directly reply to your posts. If you slander me, defame my character or spread false information about me again, I will report you to the mods.
    Troll? JB may be harsh, but he's not "trolling" you. Calling you to account for your support those who persecute gays is not trolling, nor is it slander or defamation.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Pat, you are not much better than he is. Why do you think so many people ignore you?
    Took the words out of my mouth -- except JQ actually has bright and positive moments, so it's arguable who's better.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    He who points out flawed reasoning aired in public does a public service.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    You guys ever hear of the multi-quote button?
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Nah... we have but when arguing a point sometimes people confuse or conflate the ideas when you combine them. So sometimes it is easier to respond as one off. I always have 'OH YEAH' moments and simply add a new post. Of course, Kuli reads and responds point by point to every thread he is in, so his style is different.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Nah... we have but when arguing a point sometimes people confuse or conflate the ideas when you combine them. So sometimes it is easier to respond as one off. I always have 'OH YEAH' moments and simply add a new post. Of course, Kuli reads and responds point by point to every thread he is in, so his style is different.
    I cluster things I regard as belonging together; in my post history it's possible to find times when I'll have several quotes in one post, and then several in another that are actually found in between the others -- like quoting C, F, and M in one post and then in the next quoting B, G, and L (or even G, B, and L, depending on the connections between them).

    It's the reason I utterly despise the "update" function; nine times out of ten, it's not an update at all, it's just the imbecile software kludging together unrelated things.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Africa is starving.

    The tribes in The Middle East and Detroit are killing each other.

    Your economy and mine too are going down the gurgler.

    And we’re devoting three pages over three days to just three little words uttered by a middle-aged employee of the Hollywood’s fantasy industry.

    We must have better things to do with our time.




    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    While you are working to argue with Alnitak about the necessity of forum and differences of opinion...
    Yes Jay, I was attempting to engage him. I have never actually been conscious of him before in JUB so I had no idea who he is and how he thinks. Yet he says he knows me.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    ...you are yourself expressing a difference of opinion and attempting to scold others into acting the way you do... however you perceive that to be.
    Jay, I don't think someone in the USA could care what I think. We're all on JUB; I'm not a parent who scolds a child.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    ....This is my neighborhood, just like the River Quay is where I live in my city. I have a vested interest in ensuring ignorant statements go opposed. The unique thing about this neighborhood is that there are MORE lurkers ....
    I respect you; you're just one of two of the people on CE&P I do respect... but do you honestly think Westboro and other loonies are scanning JUB for examples of Political Incorrectness to take back the GOP HQ or whatever?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    .... I win debates all day long face to face with people who have different opinions. Guess what? I have swayed opinions and I have been swayed...
    You sway because you're credible. I reckon scolding the OP over an actor's three little words is a waste of your time.

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