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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.
    Obamacare was invented by a right-wing think tank -- there's nothing liberal about it. Obama is more like Eisenhower than any other prior president -- one of the great Republicans.

    BTW, if you want to pick on a president for the piling of regulations on businesses, blame Republican Richard Nixon -- he expanded the federal bureaucracy more massively than any president but FDR, and set an example of handing effective legislative authority to bureaucracies.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Shame on you. No one is bullying you. Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support. You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act. How you voted on Prop 8 is irrelevant to the dozens of threads you've made on JUB criticizing, baiting, and hating on other homosexuals and how they live their lives. You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men. You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold. When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.

    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Shame on you. ...

    You're not a good person. ...



    JB, you are such a scold.

    You obviously come from a religious family because you certainly scold like those very old-fashioned religious people.

    I'll be very curious to see how you will raise your children because I just get the feeling that it's in your genes to will want someone of your own to scold for yourself.






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    ... the hell was that?
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    ^



    ... the hell was that?
    I think Patricia is "fishing",though his bait is poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    ...... the hell was that?
    You won't get adults on the internet to change their attitudes by just scolding them.

    They aren't your children.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.
    Do you suffer from a severe dissociative disorder? ^^^^This^^^^...and pretty much everything else you say...suggests that you do. I would look into that if I were you.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Shame on you. No one is bullying you.
    You certainly have been. For quite a while actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support.
    How? Which homophobes? Do you accuse every member of the Log Cabin Republicans of doing what you accuse me of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act.
    No, you've had an axe to grind against me since day one. You even declared that it was your personal mission to have me banned. You would probably be happy if I met the same fate as Tyler Clementi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men.
    Nope. I have said many times that I tend to find white men attractive. Why is it "racist" when I (as a gay man of color) say it, but when numerous other white gay men here say the same thing, then it's just "a personal preference"? And how am I a hatemonger of effeminate gay men when I have some effeminate qualities myself? I'm just not attracted to other fems for a relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold.
    What's wrong with that? We judge other people all the time. It's human nature. You certainly judge me for the political ideologies I hold..

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.
    I have the right to my personal opinions, as does everyone. I respect other people's opinions, even when I disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......you are narrow minded and expect people to agree with your views, whatever they are.

    I'm glad I'm nothing like you.

    I have no interest in communicating with you further. I have asked you several times before to put me on your ignore list, but you clearly wish to troll me. Therefore, I will no longer directly reply to your posts. If you slander me, defame my character or spread false information about me again, I will report you to the mods.
    I used to be like that, but not anymore. At least not on the first date. Third date, whole other story..."

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    ...you clearly wish to troll me....
    They clearly wish to scold you.

    The PC Brigade think they're superior and they're determined to scold anyone who are different.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    They clearly wish to scold you.

    The PC Brigade think they're superior and they're determined to scold anyone who are different stabs the gay community in the back.
    Fixed it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......you are narrow minded and expect people to agree with your views, whatever they are.
    It is to be expected that criticism follows when one betrays other gays on this forum and in general, speaks out against their rights despite being gay, and votes against their interests. If you can't take it, I suggest leaving because it will never stop, and rightly so. You know where the door is.
    Last edited by Alnitak; November 17th, 2013 at 02:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ... betrays other gays...
    Don't be so paranoid. This is an internet forum; use the Ignore button.

    Scolding other people on an internet forum makes you seem like an old-style religious scold.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Don't be so paranoid. This is an internet forum; use the Ignore button.
    We're speaking matters of fact and record, and actually I've been here longer than you so I have seen this pattern many times before including from the moment JayQueer joined.

    Scolding other people on an internet forum makes you seem like an old-style religious scold.
    Pat, you are not much better than he is. Why do you think so many people ignore you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ....Pat, you are not much better than he is. ..
    What do you mean?

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    What do you mean?
    If you don't know by now, there is little reason for me to start. I will not be trolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    If you don't know by now, there is little reason for me to start. ...
    Fair enough. You spend SO much of your energy and SO much of your anger on the OP and yet you can't be bothered with me.


    As you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Fair enough. You spend SO much of your energy and SO much of your anger on the OP and yet you can't be bothered with me.


    As you wish.
    Well, not me anyway, the other JB and JayHawk, but they're only saying what the rest of us are thinking.

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    ... JB and JayHawk...
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    Airing out complaints about obnoxious and insufferable behavior.

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    Airing out complaints about obnoxious and insufferable behavior.
    Ah! ..................

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    ...And of course...we now have Grimshaw, one of JUB's most infamous scolds, scolding others because he thinks they are scolding JQ.

    In defense of Jayqueer. Who started the thread to scold not Alex Baldwin, but the liberals who haven't complained enough about his paucity of wit and capacity for a clever insult...one notes that while he complains about MSNBC and CNN not lavishing hours and hours on this story...(one notes though that Baldwin has been suspended for several weeks from MSNBC even after apologizing.)...he doesn't mention how many hours that FOX spent expressing outrage on behalf of all the homos who had feelings hurt by Baldwin's language.

    Their take? http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-photographer/

    So JQ. You voted for Prop 8 and consistently have defended the most odious homophobic political candidates because they meet the requirements of your pocketbook. You are totally a one-issue voter and you have demonstrated this again and again. JB has only held a mirror up so that you can see yourself as we see you.

    You have apologized for your insult to the homos for having voted for Prop 8....but I don't see you saying that Baldwin's apology is acceptable and clears the slate?

    And of course Grimshaw. We all see you for what you are as well.

    But the two of you. Please don't ever change. If you didn't exist, we'd have to invent you. Because you are the whetstones against which we can hone our own values and indignation at the hypocrisy of the reactionary outrage of the far right thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Nobody is giving Baldwin a pass.

    What we take exception to is the only time you care about gay rights is when a liberal spouts a gay slur. You said yourself that employers should be able to fire gays, so how is that platform to complain about gay slurs?
    I said that employers could fire gays for being gay? I don't think so.


    Back on topic. I think if we focused on Baldwin and his demeaning behavior instead of beating up on other peoples in this forum we'd all be better off. If certain people don't think other posters are not 'good people' then put them on ignore instead of acting all righteous and uppity.

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    Re: Alec Baldwin Calls TMZ Photographer a 'Cock Sucking Fag'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I said that employers could fire gays for being gay? I don't think so.
    You did, but we are not supposed to reference other threads. PM me for the links and I will be happy to direct you to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I have no idea how Baldwin voted. I'll take a wild guess and say that he probably doesn't even vote.

    Amazing, you're gonna give him a pass because of his politics.
    Baldwin is very political and very active in the civic life of New York City. He was one of the first celebrities, along with Cynthia Nixon, to come out strongly in support of Bill De Blasio in his run for mayor. He was active in De Blasio's campaign. Baldwin is also very active in support of some of our most important cultural institutions. Specifically he has given time and money to the Metropolitan Opera, New York Philharmonic, our classic music station.

    He's a hot-head prone to saying stupid things when he loses his temper. He should enroll in an anger management program. If people cut him some slack, it's not because he is a liberal. It's because he's a good person, a good citizen and puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to trying to make our city and country a better place to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    ...And of course...we now have Grimshaw, one of JUB's most infamous scolds, scolding others because he thinks they are scolding JQ.
    Hahah....I was thinking the exact same thing! Irony, thy name is Grimshaw!

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    While you are working to argue with Alnitak about the necessity of forum and differences of opinion, you are yourself expressing a difference of opinion and attempting to scold others into acting the way you do... however you perceive that to be.

    This is my neighborhood, just like the River Quay is where I live in my city. I have a vested interest in ensuring ignorant statements go opposed. The unique thing about this neighborhood is that there are MORE lurkers than posters. I have no idea where they all stand on issues. I cannot allow an ignorant statement like the idea that liberals are just giving Alec Baldwin a pass go unchecked. That might give credence to their opinion.

    I use this in my face to face life. I come across ignorant opinions constantly. I get these guys to air out their opinions so I can either agree with them or defeat them. Having ones arguments in order is a successful way to win debates. I win debates all day long face to face with people who have different opinions. Guess what? I have swayed opinions and I have been swayed.

    So there are two very real and substantial reasons I argue with recalcitrant viewpoints like Jack and JQ. Why do yu choose to nominate yourself the net nanny to coordinate everyone's actions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    Baldwin is an asshole and a liberal asshole at that. Why try to change the subject of the thread to prove your version of gay is better than others.

    I fully agree, I had a stalker also. Things are much better now.
    One version IS better. And it's not changing the subject to point out right wing hypocrisy in making a thread about Alec Baldwin. Who's definitely a "liberal asshole." And yet, YOU have harmed gay rights much more than he ever could. And you never seem to care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    I have no idea how Baldwin voted. I'll take a wild guess and say that he probably doesn't even vote.

    Amazing, you're gonna give him a pass because of his politics.
    Lol, READ THE FUCKING TOPIC! Nobody is giving him a free pass! Comment on the fucking reality, not your spiteful delusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Why is everyone bullying me? I'm really a sweet, really nice person if anyone took the effort to see the real me..

    I have apologized many times about the Prop 8 thing. I'm really sorry about how I voted..

    Stuff the whinefest. Nobody is bullying you, we are just calling you on your buckets of bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post

    I'm not a single issue voter. I don't agree with the Republicans' views on some social issues. BUT I cannot in good conscience support the Democrats right now. They have moved too far to the left on Obamacare and wanting to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants and bending backwards to put in regulations to hurt businesses.

    Because of the Dems, California is the worst place to do business in the US. They use taxpayer money to build a fantasy high speed railway that has not even started construction. They have created a welfare state where they tax, tax, tax. And meanwhile, they have decided to give more money to union workers, bigger pensions to state employees, drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and use taxpayer money to give illegal immigrants free education at California public universities.

    Wasn't JayHawk who said that one's sexuality is only one part of who one is? That's the way I see it.

    Mitt Romney would have been a friend to the gays had he been in office. He even hired Richard Grenell, an accomplished political consultant who happened to be gay, to be his national security spokesman for the campaign.
    I don't give a flying fuck about how many issues you vote for. My dignity as a human being, what this entire forum is all about, is the SINGLE ISSUE YOU ARE NOT A VOTER OF! So I don't care about your dumb reasons for why you cite against gay rights, only that you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post

    Shame on you. No one is bullying you. Gay boys and girls are bullied every day by homophobes you support. You are being held accountable for your posting history here on this forum. We've seen enough of your thread posting cycles to know how you behave and act. How you voted on Prop 8 is irrelevant to the dozens of threads you've made on JUB criticizing, baiting, and hating on other homosexuals and how they live their lives. You're a racist, and a hatemonger of effeminate gay men. You judge people based on what neighborhood they live in, or what political ideologies they hold. When this community celebrates the prospect of another victory for gay civil rights, you're always the one to shit on the parade saying it's not going to happen - That we're too optimistic for the chance of equality and happiness.

    You're not a good person. I don't know who is behind that computer screen that you post under, but you're a sad individual if you're lying or telling the truth about yourself. If you are telling the truth about yourself, then you are a hypocrite who refuses to seek help, or make his own life better. This community has been nothing but kind to you in providing help and advice on how to save your life and find happiness. Yet, you continue to post the same threads over and over again with the veiled homophobic references and demonization of people who vote differently than you.
    Very well said. It's sickening.
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    Also, I find the subtle insinuations that there's anything in common between you, JQ, and Tyler Clementy, to be in excessively bad taste. If you're trying to guilt trip us into being "nice" you with vague hints of suicide, you really have the wrong crowd.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I have the right to my personal opinions, as does everyone. I respect other people's opinions, even when I disagree.
    And others have the right to call you on your hypocrisy involving those opinions. This time, you're an incredible hypocrite, claiming your priority is to live out and proud, but advocating policies that mean persecution for those who do.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Yet you demonize me and any gay person who does not blindly vote Democrat......
    Actually, he doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I have no interest in communicating with you further. I have asked you several times before to put me on your ignore list, but you clearly wish to troll me. Therefore, I will no longer directly reply to your posts. If you slander me, defame my character or spread false information about me again, I will report you to the mods.
    Troll? JB may be harsh, but he's not "trolling" you. Calling you to account for your support those who persecute gays is not trolling, nor is it slander or defamation.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Pat, you are not much better than he is. Why do you think so many people ignore you?
    Took the words out of my mouth -- except JQ actually has bright and positive moments, so it's arguable who's better.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    JayHawk is a clever, accomplished man. And JB— well I assume he goes to college. But I don't understand why they spend SO much time and energy bad-mouthing an unknown person on a private forum. What do they get out of it?
    He who points out flawed reasoning aired in public does a public service.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    You guys ever hear of the multi-quote button?
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    and I’ll run to behold your sacrifice..."

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    Nah... we have but when arguing a point sometimes people confuse or conflate the ideas when you combine them. So sometimes it is easier to respond as one off. I always have 'OH YEAH' moments and simply add a new post. Of course, Kuli reads and responds point by point to every thread he is in, so his style is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Nah... we have but when arguing a point sometimes people confuse or conflate the ideas when you combine them. So sometimes it is easier to respond as one off. I always have 'OH YEAH' moments and simply add a new post. Of course, Kuli reads and responds point by point to every thread he is in, so his style is different.
    I cluster things I regard as belonging together; in my post history it's possible to find times when I'll have several quotes in one post, and then several in another that are actually found in between the others -- like quoting C, F, and M in one post and then in the next quoting B, G, and L (or even G, B, and L, depending on the connections between them).

    It's the reason I utterly despise the "update" function; nine times out of ten, it's not an update at all, it's just the imbecile software kludging together unrelated things.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Africa is starving.

    The tribes in The Middle East and Detroit are killing each other.

    Your economy and mine too are going down the gurgler.

    And we’re devoting three pages over three days to just three little words uttered by a middle-aged employee of the Hollywood’s fantasy industry.

    We must have better things to do with our time.




    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    While you are working to argue with Alnitak about the necessity of forum and differences of opinion...
    Yes Jay, I was attempting to engage him. I have never actually been conscious of him before in JUB so I had no idea who he is and how he thinks. Yet he says he knows me.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    ...you are yourself expressing a difference of opinion and attempting to scold others into acting the way you do... however you perceive that to be.
    Jay, I don't think someone in the USA could care what I think. We're all on JUB; I'm not a parent who scolds a child.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    ....This is my neighborhood, just like the River Quay is where I live in my city. I have a vested interest in ensuring ignorant statements go opposed. The unique thing about this neighborhood is that there are MORE lurkers ....
    I respect you; you're just one of two of the people on CE&P I do respect... but do you honestly think Westboro and other loonies are scanning JUB for examples of Political Incorrectness to take back the GOP HQ or whatever?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    .... I win debates all day long face to face with people who have different opinions. Guess what? I have swayed opinions and I have been swayed...
    You sway because you're credible. I reckon scolding the OP over an actor's three little words is a waste of your time.

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    Lol Africa is starving? Really?


    If I have learned one thing in my life, that is that there's NO issue that something ELSE isn't more important than. And yet, if someone isn't passionate about it, nothing will ever change.

    And if gay people weren't passionate about gay rights, we'd still be where people like YOU want us - in shame, suffocating in a closet with no rights, persecuted, mocked and resented by everyone.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    ^


    I guess you're trying to sound like Shostakovitch but it come across as Andrew LLoyd WEbber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^


    I guess you're trying to sound like Shostakovitch but it come across as Andrew LLoyd WEbber.
    I guess you're trying to sound sarcastic, but it's coming across as senile. Just because you have no real contribution to make in this, or most other threads, isn't a reason to post, I promise. We're fine without your posts here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    I laugh when Fox news talks about what is political correctness---they do more to spread hate to more people than Baldwin could ever reach---As for the comment-- for me knowing who the source is of any comment made has to come into consideration---if a str friend says fag or whatever but I know where their heart is---I don't cut them off and never hang with them again---I know Baldwin is all about gay rights and has many gay friends---so whatever---the bigger issue is his out of control behavior with these guys who are hunting him down every day---his apartment has been on the local news so many times now everyone knows where in the Village he lives---they are torturing him on a daily basis and he seems to always go for the bait.
    He "Had" a show on MSNBC, So I notice most on here give him a pass for offensive language used in anger.
    If Alec was on FOX , We would be talking Boycotts. Not too mention 3 pages of Posts about his Anger Issues.
    Does anyone remember Mel Gibson and his anger issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck10x View Post

    He "Had" a show on MSNBC, So I notice most on here give him a pass for offensive language used in anger.
    If Alec was on FOX , We would be talking Boycotts. Not too mention 3 pages of Posts about his Anger Issues.
    Does anyone remember Mel Gibson and his anger issues?
    Is it really that devastatingly difficult to compute that not every distinction is made solely on the basis of party affiliation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Africa is starving.

    The tribes in The Middle East and Detroit are killing each other.

    Your economy and mine too are going down the gurgler.

    And we’re devoting three pages over three days to just three little words uttered by a middle-aged employee of the Hollywood’s fantasy industry.

    We must have better things to do with our time.






    Yes Jay, I was attempting to engage him. I have never actually been conscious of him before in JUB so I had no idea who he is and how he thinks. Yet he says he knows me.



    Jay, I don't think someone in the USA could care what I think. We're all on JUB; I'm not a parent who scolds a child.



    I respect you; you're just one of two of the people on CE&P I do respect... but do you honestly think Westboro and other loonies are scanning JUB for examples of Political Incorrectness to take back the GOP HQ or whatever?



    You sway because you're credible. I reckon scolding the OP over an actor's three little words is a waste of your time.
    I disagree with some of your assumptions of larger than life items. However, I do agree there are many ... and I mean a lifetime ... of things that are greater in importance than a conversation on JUB. However, I enjoy the conversation... even when... especially when the argumentative blows can fall like a Tyson punch. (early Tyson not ear biter Tyson) So sure those other items deserve attention but I am sitting on my couch watching Denver play Kansas City and chatting kinda works for me... ya know? I could do other things but not right now.

    Since you mention the westboro fucking morons.... well currently, about ten blocks from my front door, the Fred Phelps Clan of idiots is protesting gay people outside the Sprint Center... I would love nothing more than to go 'accidentally' lose control of my truck and splat those fucking cockroaches, but talking on JUB seems to be the better choice. Plus they might not have the game on in jail and they definitely wont give me a beer.

    Is it possible there is room for all things we would like to do? I appreciate your kind words, I really do but those are your opinions. There are other people here that think I am just a mean piece of shit or a moron or well... Fill in the blank. It is the nature of people to have instant like or dislike of others. Many of the dislikes I am sure I earned somehow, just like the likes. Point is that Alnitak has a point of view I am sure many enjoy. For those that enjoy his posts then he has sway. I can also confirm he has been a member of long standing here but is now with a different name. It is his prerogative if he wishes to take of his skin tight batman suit and reveal his identity.

    So in short (as if I am ever short winded).... in short, there are plenty of things that deserve greater attention but this is what we are all doing so who is anyone here to tell anyone else they cant have an opinion? Or their opinion is not worthy of time?

    Now a little steering correction to get us back on course:

    To me the guy who supports all kinds of gay hate groups to turn around and be offended by a lib saying a gay slur is utterly repulsive. It defines him as a person that doesn't like himself or the people on these boards. Using being gay as a wedge only to be pushed when it can provide a partisan divide. That I have to speak out against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck10x View Post
    He "Had" a show on MSNBC, So I notice most on here give him a pass for offensive language used in anger.
    If Alec was on FOX , We would be talking Boycotts. Not too mention 3 pages of Posts about his Anger Issues.
    Does anyone remember Mel Gibson and his anger issues?
    True we give more leeway to our friends than we do to our enemies... does it work differently on your planet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post

    True we give more leeway to our friends than we do to our enemies... does it work differently on your planet?
    On his planet they give so much leeway that they just act like nothing happened.
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    Re: Alec Baldwin calls photographer a "c**ksucking f*g"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Africa is starving.

    The tribes in The Middle East and Detroit are killing each other.

    Your economy and mine too are going down the gurgler.

    And we’re devoting three pages over three days to just three little words uttered by a middle-aged employee of the Hollywood’s fantasy industry.

    We must have better things to do with our time.






    Yes Jay, I was attempting to engage him. I have never actually been conscious of him before in JUB so I had no idea who he is and how he thinks. Yet he says he knows me.



    Jay, I don't think someone in the USA could care what I think. We're all on JUB; I'm not a parent who scolds a child.



    I respect you; you're just one of two of the people on CE&P I do respect... but do you honestly think Westboro and other loonies are scanning JUB for examples of Political Incorrectness to take back the GOP HQ or whatever?



    You sway because you're credible. I reckon scolding the OP over an actor's three little words is a waste of your time.
    Obviously you don't have anything better to do since you've decided to lecture us about the bigger issues in the world we should be attending to...and then spent precious moments when you could be helping the starving in Africa by stooping to pander to someone else who has called you out on your own scolding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post

    Obviously you don't have anything better to do since you've decided to lecture us about the bigger issues in the world we should be attending to...and then spent precious moments when you could be helping the starving in Africa by stooping to pander to someone else who has called you out on your own scolding.
    Mah.
    It's just his old school way of trying to get the last word while also suggesting he doesn't care about the argument.

    The sheer length of his dismissal of this unimportant subject says it all.
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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