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    No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Mini rant here but have to vent.
    The bf and I got a really nasty facebook message yesterday from someone who is being caught up in the Obamacare mess about how the Republicans like him tried to warn us what would happen and how we stupid to vote for Obama and hope he hope's we and everyone else who voted for him are proud now.
    Here's the thing,I never really liked Obama but he was always the lesser of two evils,both in 08 and 2012.
    I'm not going to be made to feel bad for not liking the Republican Party after Bush used homophobia to help himself get relected.
    Nor will I ignore their ongoing efforts to push for a federal marriage amendment and make me and millions of other LGBT couples second class citizens forever.
    I get some of you are Republicans and will over look that part of the Republican party but my bf and I simply couldn't.
    I guess my thoughts are this,don't run on having to appease people that think we're second class citizens and ask to get my vote.
    It won't happen and despite the messes Obama has made,I feel no guilt over how I voted and will continue to vote as long as the Republican Party is in the 19th century.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    For what it's worth, I think you made the right choice. The Republican Party, in my opinion, should be shunned until they enter the modern world. You should always stand by your convictions.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    I regret not voting third party sometimes...

    My problem with the health care law is that it is not enough...there is no public option.

    I actually will vote Republican on a state level occasionally but ONLY if they are a social liberal and are environment friendly. There are a lot of socially liberal California Republicans. I would never vote Republican on a National level for any reason. The reasons are too obvious to list...just take a look at them.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Until the Party of NO learns another tune, your friend can go fuck himself. I can't even imagine what we'd be doing now with Mittens as president. He was so empty, I can't picture ANYTHING. And until that stops being the case with the GOP, they got NOTHING.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I regret not voting third party sometimes...

    My problem with the health care law is that it is not enough...there is no public option.

    I actually will vote Republican on a state level occasionally but ONLY if they are a social liberal and are environment friendly. There are a lot of socially liberal California Republicans. I would never vote Republican on a National level for any reason. The reasons are too obvious to list...just take a look at them.
    This is why I sit happy and have no regrets voting for the only sensible candidate in 2012, Gary Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post

    This is why I sit happy and have no regrets voting for the only sensible candidate in 2012, Gary Johnson.
    Too bad you have no regrets for not voting.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    I wouldn't change my vote either. My first concern as a gay man is being treated equal as any other person in the US. We still haven't gotten there yet but we are further under this POTUS than we would be under the opposition. I have a job, I have insurance and no it hasn't gone up no more than it has each year for the past 20 years. That is my priority, may not be others.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    I have voted Republican as well but only if they're moderates,which are sadly a dying breed in that party.
    And come 2016,if Ted Cruz gets the nomination,we'll have to get out and vote to make sure that SOB never gets near the White House.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    I have voted Republican as well but only if they're moderates,which are sadly a dying breed in that party.
    And come 2016,if Ted Cruz gets the nomination,we'll have to get out and vote to make sure that SOB never gets near the White House.
    He can't. He wasn't born in the US O.o
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    That didn't stop Obama.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    No regrets here either.

    We have had amazing advances in LGBT rights from the executive branch in the last five years. We've had the drawdowns in both wars. The economy and unemployment rates are improving. The ACA will be tweaked and fixed until it is right, just like everything else, and healthcare reform will not stop until everyone in the country can afford healthcare and the doctor of their choosing.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    We now know Obama lied to get re-elected.

    I wonder how many 20-somethings would vote for him now after they learn that they have to buy high priced insurance or pay a tax -- or how many of those who have lost their insurance and now have to purchase new much more expensive insurance with benefits that they will never use.

    I wasn't a fan of Romney but I think he would have been more reliable and more honest.

    We don't need a crook for a President.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Maybe Obama only mess things up because the other side always so NO to everything ?
    Its like the liberal party here, they said NO to everything and always on the negative of how bad things are ...


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    We now know Obama lied to get re-elected.

    I wonder how many 20-somethings would vote for him now after they learn that they have to buy high priced insurance or pay a tax -- or how many of those who have lost their insurance and now have to purchase new much more expensive insurance with benefits that they will never use.

    I wasn't a fan of Romney but I think he would have been more reliable and more honest.

    We don't need a crook for a President.
    And vote for a Republican who will shaft us on student loans?

    No thanks.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    This is why I sit happy and have no regrets voting for the only sensible candidate in 2012, Gary Johnson.
    Well...I couldn't do that and have no regrets. Thankfully in 2012 I did not have to plug my nose to vote for Obama...I did so willingly and I was actually voting FOR him rather than AGAINST Mittens. I DID have to plug my nose in 2008 though and vote against Palin and McCain.

    I would love to vote third party with a clean conscience but unfortunately in my case my vote would end up being a vote for the Republican and I would have regrets about that.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post

    I would love to vote third party with a clean conscience but unfortunately in my case my vote would end up being a vote for the Republican and I would have regrets about that.
    You gotta love our first past the post elections

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Why would we have any regrets?

    I have to almost laugh at the sight of Republicans gleefully frothing at the mouth over what they label the OBBAAAMMMAACAAARRE MESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Their barely concealed joy at what they perceive as the pain of people they normally wouldn't give a shit about is very very telling and, strangely, heartbreaking. I can't really even blame them. I mean, they have taken hit after hit after hit with the complete rejection of their brand in the presidential election and following a 1000 dead ends down rabbit holes in a vain attempt to topple the president, right? They now have hold of a semi-legitimate gripe and, of course, must act as though President Obama has actually eaten babies. It MUST be magnified to the point that all of "us" dumb liberals will finally fall on our knees and ask forgiveness for not seeing the light and voting for Mitt Romney when we had the chance (I mean, are you fucking kidding me?)

    Reasoning won't work, facts won't work, rationality won't work, nothing that deviates from the sweet sweet taste of what they sense is real meat in their jaws after a starvation diet is ever going to penetrate. This will pass, fickle opinion polls will rise and fall rise again and our Republican friends, family, and acquaintances will go to their graves ranting and bitching about "Obama, the Destroyer in Chief" with dog-eared half truths and de-bunked myths as their proof. In short, the world turns. Let them have this, who cares? But...regrets? Not a single one.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    We now know Obama lied to get re-elected.

    I wonder how many 20-somethings would vote for him now after they learn that they have to buy high priced insurance or pay a tax -- or how many of those who have lost their insurance and now have to purchase new much more expensive insurance with benefits that they will never use.

    I wasn't a fan of Romney but I think he would have been more reliable and more honest.

    We don't need a crook for a President.
    Case in point. Can't you almost SMELL the ejaculate?

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Healthcare.gov will be reconfigured to operate in a better fashion, i have no worries about that. Soon, many, that for whatever reason in our great country of plenty, had to forego health coverage, will have that burden lifted off their shoulders. And for that, i couldn't be happier. In early October, i nearly wept at reading the story about the first family in Connecticut to use ObamaCare to sign up.

    I've been very lucky in my life to date. Beginning with my first job when i was 19, i participated and enjoyed the comfort of having health coverage. I've not used it much (thank goodness !) in the 24 years since but i wouldn't have it any other way. When i was younger i saw the value in having it and don't regret it, i just wish that in our current environment, that there weren't groups that were actively working to persuade the younger people in our country to forgo health coverage. Having health coverage, if you can afford it, is just best the thing to do...for everyone.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    No, I am not sorry I voted for Obama and thank God that I did. It's the economy and healthcare that I think are important. Obama is not as good as I thought, but the Republicans have fought everything he has tried to do instead of offer improvements to his plans. The Republicans are out to help those who already have and heaven help everyone else.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    If nothing else,look at Mitt Romney's record in regard to gay rights in Massachusetts. He did everything he could to blunt that ruling including making it so out of state couples couldn't marry.
    You can be sure he would have done everythin to make the DOMA ruling as limited as possible.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    If nothing else,look at Mitt Romney's record in regard to gay rights in Massachusetts. He did everything he could to blunt that ruling including making it so out of state couples couldn't marry.
    You can be sure he would have done everythin to make the DOMA ruling as limited as possible.
    The irony was the religious right attacked him for not doing enough. You really can't walk the middle of the road on this.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    We now know Obama lied to get re-elected.

    I wonder how many 20-somethings would vote for him now after they learn that they have to buy high priced insurance or pay a tax -- or how many of those who have lost their insurance and now have to purchase new much more expensive insurance with benefits that they will never use.

    I wasn't a fan of Romney but I think he would have been more reliable and more honest.

    We don't need a crook for a President.
    I laughed so hard at this post. Mitt Romney lied multiple times during the campaign and was caught in numerous flagrant flip-flops. He was going to be more reliable and more honest? Mister "I am very passionately whatever you want me to be"? I think not.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Maybe Obama only mess things up because the other side always so NO to everything ?
    Its like the liberal party here, they said NO to everything and always on the negative of how bad things are ...
    Thank you. That was the theme of his speech/press conference yesterday --- it wasn't my fault -- you need to blame someone else like the insurance companies and the republicans

    At some point the man has to take responsibility for himself. Probably not though.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Thank you. That was the theme of his speech/press conference yesterday --- it wasn't my fault -- you need to blame someone else like the insurance companies and the republicans

    At some point the man has to take responsibility for himself. Probably not though.
    Remember that one time when Republicans said it was their number one priority to make him a one term president? And then proceeded to do just that for the next 4 years and are still doing it?

    Yeah, I thought not.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    We now know Obama lied to get re-elected.

    I wonder how many 20-somethings would vote for him now after they learn that they have to buy high priced insurance or pay a tax -- or how many of those who have lost their insurance and now have to purchase new much more expensive insurance with benefits that they will never use.

    I wasn't a fan of Romney but I think he would have been more reliable and more honest.

    We don't need a crook for a President.
    Romney wouldn't know a truthful statement if it bit him in the ass.

    I don't regret voting for Obama, or any Democrat. Republicans are the party that elects clueless imbeciles who are nothing more than patsies and butt buddies for the extremely wealthy. Why would anyone with half a brain vote for a Republican?

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    If nothing else,look at Mitt Romney's record in regard to gay rights in Massachusetts. He did everything he could to blunt that ruling including making it so out of state couples couldn't marry.
    You can be sure he would have done everythin to make the DOMA ruling as limited as possible.
    That's a lie BTW. The "out-of-state" law goes back to 1913. The reason the law was created in the first place is a funky term called "anti-miscegenation" or in laymen's terms: "interracial marriage". Who says the North wasn't racist? It is also no coincidence that New England is the "whitest" region in the country with Maine being the whitest state.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    I've heard differently but either way,Romney was a bigot in regards to us.

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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    I am not happy with the dysfunctional government that created the thing called Obama-care. If republicans really cared about all of those people with half ass healthcare plans that would cover nothing then they would have participated in the creation of a decent law instead of ensuring it has to be made functional by reform.

    Still had McCain or Romney won then we would have nothing, zero, ziltch and nada.

    So after 100 years of sputters and starts we finally have healthcare. For that I am thankful.
    For not pursuing a losing war on drugs byu allowing Washington and Colorado to open market cannabis, I applaud him.
    For the ability to serve in the military openly, I salute him.
    For being able to marry with benefits, Thank you!
    For having a foreign policy that is not leading us to another war, finally.
    For providing equal pay for women in the workplace, way to go.
    For expanding the definition of Traumatic Brain Injury (for the last thirteen years of war) and accepting Agent orange as a health risk (for Vietnam) EVEN THOUGH they knew the deluge of claimants would make the VA seem much more incompetent than they actually are, god bless you.
    For keeping our rather robust security apparatus intact instead of gutting it like some on the left would demand, Thank you.
    For putting the full weight of the office behind sensible gun measures,

    There are many things gone wrong in this administration, but to feel bad about it ??? I know for a fact he has responded better than a weak republican would based on eight years of Bush. So no regrets at all. If anything his turn in office has given me many things while exposing many elements of the republican party as both racist and willing to destroy America rather than watch a black man succeed.
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    Re: No,I'm not sorry for how I voted last fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    That's a lie BTW. The "out-of-state" law goes back to 1913. The reason the law was created in the first place is a funky term called "anti-miscegenation" or in laymen's terms: "interracial marriage". Who says the North wasn't racist? It is also no coincidence that New England is the "whitest" region in the country with Maine being the whitest state.
    It isn't a coincidence that New England is the whitest region. They weren't plantation states with huge numbers of slaves. The whitest states, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont, also did not have lots of heavy industry. Blacks fled the "Jim Crow" South to escape lynching and the other grotesque atrocities of the racist South. They were largely condemned to poverty in the South and moved to Northern industrial cities for work.

    Between 1915 and 1970, more than 6 million African-Americans moved out of the South to cities across the Northeast, Midwest and West.

    This relocation called the Great Migration resulted in massive demographic shifts across the United States. Between 1910 and 1930, cities such as New York, Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland saw their African-American populations grow by about 40 percent, and the number of African-Americans employed in industrial jobs nearly doubled.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=129827444

    This isn't to say that there wasn't racism in the North. It just paled in comparison to the South.

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