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    Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    I love it when "oops" is used in a story, reminds me of our great leader Rick Goodhair.
    So, now will the hatred for Hillary end with this story about "But Benghazi"?

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/1...r?detail=email

    Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 09:24 AM PDT
    Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

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    Don't you just hate it when you do a big story to satisfy the wing nuts and to show you're "fair and balanced" and it turns out your main source for the story is, well, a liar?!

    Here it is from the Washington Post

    Here's how the WP describes what he told 60 minutes;

    The man whom CBS called Morgan Jones, a pseudonym, described racing to the Benghazi compound while the attack was underway, scaling a 12-foot wall and downing an extremist with the butt end of a rifle as he tried in vain to rescue the besieged Americans.

    But here's what the WP says he wrote in a report to his employer three days after the attack.

    --snip--

    he wrote that he spent most of that night at his Benghazi beach-side villa.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Republicans use their manufactured Benghazi talking points as a badge of honor and a weapon to attempt to destroy Hillary. They have completely washed their minds of the fact that they were the ones who cut all security funding to embassies worldwide and sidestep the fact that dozens of embassies were attacked during the Bush dictatorship.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orlandude View Post
    Republicans use their manufactured Benghazi talking points as a badge of honor and a weapon to attempt to destroy Hillary. They have completely washed their minds of the fact that they were the ones who cut all security funding to embassies worldwide and sidestep the fact that dozens of embassies were attacked during the Bush dictatorship.
    Agreed.

    Republicans have exploited this tragedy for political gain in the same manner they exploited 9/11. Whenever they need attention they shout their battle cry "BENGHAZI!" and you'll hear it more when Hillary is running for President. It keeps the right wing base fired up and they'll use it to keep soliciting donations.

    Shameful how they're exploiting the deaths of Glen Doherty, Tyron Woods, Sean Smith & Chris Stevens. For those of you who don't know who these men are, they're the 4 Dead Americans you're exploiting.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Agreeeeeed. Well I had to bring it up to 10 characters didn't I?
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

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    RIP Sixty Minutes integrity. Mike Wallace must be rolling over in his grave!

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Truth may be he's a liar, but left wingnuts are as disinterested in the truth as you say the right wing nuts are. Is Benghazi the worst operational failure ever? Of course not. But no way it should have happened, and serious failures at some level of the Administration occurred. There were several attacks in the area before, and as I have mentioned the UK and even the Red Cross cleared the hell out of there. When you guys on the left show more intellectual honesty than the right you often rightly have good reason to get on, then I'll give a whit about your gotcha tactics instead of the real thing which uis who really fucked up in Benghazi and was it because it was not politically convenient to acknowledge that terrorists can still inflict damage? Remember Joe Biden puffing up that al Qaeda is dead, and General Motors is alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Truth may be he's a liar, but left wingnuts are as disinterested in the truth as you say the right wing nuts are. Is Benghazi the worst operational failure ever? Of course not. But no way it should have happened, and serious failures at some level of the Administration occurred. There were several attacks in the area before, and as I have mentioned the UK and even the Red Cross cleared the hell out of there. When you guys on the left show more intellectual honesty than the right you often rightly have good reason to get on, then I'll give a whit about your gotcha tactics instead of the real thing which uis who really fucked up in Benghazi and was it because it was not politically convenient to acknowledge that terrorists can still inflict damage? Remember Joe Biden puffing up that al Qaeda is dead, and General Motors is alive?
    You are right that something went way wrong. That was Republicans defunding the embassy.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    The really frustrating thing about this is that the Republicans (like Lindsay Graham) beating the drum on Benghazi are the same ones who want to intervene in Syria.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zingerific View Post
    The really frustrating thing about this is that the Republicans (like Lindsay Graham) beating the drum on Benghazi are the same ones who want to intervene in Syria.
    Is that all they're beating?

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Of all Obama's scandals, Benghazi concerns me the least. His bold attacks on journalism and expansions in the military industrial complex are far more important in my view. But I will say that the whole business with that tape is just bizarre. The administration and media had most of the world, except Benghazi of course, believing that this all had to do with some D-level movie.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    So, what was the liar's motive?

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    You are right that something went way wrong. That was Republicans defunding the embassy.
    This post is woefully off-topic, but I just noticed your avatar a couple minutes ago, and I'm crying right now. Though I already knew hours ago that Ill-Noise is now State #15 where same-gender marriage is LEGAL, seeing the rainbow across my state really drove home how awesome and amazing all of this is. It will be life-changing for some friends that I have who will never again need to worry about inheritance rights, etc. I'm just posting this here, because this is where I was when it "hit" me so good.

    Thank you for this.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Truth may be he's a liar, but left wingnuts are as disinterested in the truth as you say the right wing nuts are. Is Benghazi the worst operational failure ever? Of course not. But no way it should have happened, and serious failures at some level of the Administration occurred. There were several attacks in the area before, and as I have mentioned the UK and even the Red Cross cleared the hell out of there. When you guys on the left show more intellectual honesty than the right you often rightly have good reason to get on, then I'll give a whit about your gotcha tactics instead of the real thing which uis who really fucked up in Benghazi and was it because it was not politically convenient to acknowledge that terrorists can still inflict damage? Remember Joe Biden puffing up that al Qaeda is dead, and General Motors is alive?
    And your miserable lack of outrage at the 173 who died, on Bushes watch in violent areas serviced by our diplomatic personnel, simply highlights the dishonest nature of choosing ONE attack, just prior to an election, and deciding IT MUST be a partisan issue instead of an American one.

    THAT is where the outrage lies. In an entire party of American governance doing nothing to actually address the issue except attempt to make it a smear campaign. THAT is true self serving cowardice. The republican party is not for America. Democrats are just as corrupt in many ways but at least they still think they ought to acknowledge the need to give a cursory nod to the people they serve.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luciant View Post
    Of all Obama's scandals, Benghazi concerns me the least. His bold attacks on journalism and expansions in the military industrial complex are far more important in my view. But I will say that the whole business with that tape is just bizarre. The administration and media had most of the world, except Benghazi of course, believing that this all had to do with some D-level movie.
    We really don't know what the Obama Administration is trying to keep secret about Benghazi -- that's what makes it so important to find out. They have gone to great lengths to keep anyone from talking. It's been reported that CIA employees with information about Benghazi go through monthly lie-detector tests to make sure they have not spoken with anyone.

    What is the Administration keeping secret -- there are guesses about arms sales -- but we don't know.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    This post is woefully off-topic, but I just noticed your avatar a couple minutes ago, and I'm crying right now. Though I already knew hours ago that Ill-Noise is now State #15 where same-gender marriage is LEGAL, seeing the rainbow across my state really drove home how awesome and amazing all of this is. It will be life-changing for some friends that I have who will never again need to worry about inheritance rights, etc. I'm just posting this here, because this is where I was when it "hit" me so good.

    Thank you for this.

    BACK TO TOPIC, now...
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    We really don't know what the Obama Administration is trying to keep secret about Benghazi -- that's what makes it so important to find out. They have gone to great lengths to keep anyone from talking. It's been reported that CIA employees with information about Benghazi go through monthly lie-detector tests to make sure they have not spoken with anyone.

    What is the Administration keeping secret -- there are guesses about arms sales -- but we don't know.
    Care to share a link to the lie-detector tests?
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    ^^

    Want to call CNN a liar too? Maybe you have CNN and I confused with the habitual liar . . . Barack Hussein Obama.

    Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency's missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency's workings.

    The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress.

    It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career.

    In exclusive communications obtained by CNN, one insider writes, "You don't jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well."
    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08...nghazi-attack/

    Maybe if you and others would take a stand for truth, we'd know why keeping the incidents top secret at Benghazi is so important to the Obama Administration.

    I think an apology is in order.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    Want to call CNN a liar too? Maybe you have CNN and I confused with the habitual liar . . . Barack Hussein Obama.



    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08...nghazi-attack/

    Maybe if you and others would take a stand for truth, we'd know why keeping the incidents top secret at Benghazi is so important to the Obama Administration.

    I think an apology is in order.
    Surely you don't expect an apology from me. I can believe CNN lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post

    This post is woefully off-topic, but I just noticed your avatar a couple minutes ago, and I'm crying right now. Though I already knew hours ago that Ill-Noise is now State #15 where same-gender marriage is LEGAL, seeing the rainbow across my state really drove home how awesome and amazing all of this is. It will be life-changing for some friends that I have who will never again need to worry about inheritance rights, etc. I'm just posting this here, because this is where I was when it "hit" me so good.

    Thank you for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    We really don't know what the Obama Administration is trying to keep secret about Benghazi -- that's what makes it so important to find out. They have gone to great lengths to keep anyone from talking. It's been reported that CIA employees with information about Benghazi go through monthly lie-detector tests to make sure they have not spoken with anyone.

    What is the Administration keeping secret -- there are guesses about arms sales -- but we don't know.
    I'm sure it's a horrifying conspiracy!!!!
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    ^^^

    If people are scared to talk, I'm guessing it's more than keeping a secret about who's coming to dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^^

    If people are scared to talk, I'm guessing it's more than keeping a secret about who's coming to dinner.
    No, no, it can't be anything but a dark horror that would lead not only to the impeachment of Obama, but also his execution, as well as that of Hilary, Joe Biden and everyone else you don't like! If only WE COULD LEARN THE TRUTH!!!

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Here's an apology from CBS, video included. I think it clears up any question of it being a lie. It was a lie.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/1...s?detail=email

    Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 08:10 AM PST
    CBS retracts bogus Benghazi report, apologizes for airing false claims

    by Jed LewisonFollow for Daily Kos

    CBS News apologized this morning for airing the accusations of a now-apparently-fake Benghazi whistleblower, Dylan Davies.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Too bad our President can't admit he habitually lied and made false claims.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Too bad our President can't admit he habitually lied and made false claims.
    Too bad he is still a much better president than your boys ever could be.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Here's an apology from CBS, video included. I think it clears up any question of it being a lie. It was a lie.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/1...s?detail=email
    And tonight, they officially broadcasted their correction/retraction after the final advertising break, after all their regular segments had already run. Isn't that kind of like the newspaper which corrects an erroneous "above-the-fold" front page story by putting the correction in one small paragraph on page 6 in the Financial section?

    I think that such corrections should be run (in full) at the beginning when they summarize the upcoming segments, and REPEATED some time during the show.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    And tonight, they officially broadcasted their correction/retraction after the final advertising break, after all their regular segments had already run. Isn't that kind of like the newspaper which corrects an erroneous "above-the-fold" front page story by putting the correction in one small paragraph on page 6 in the Financial section?

    I think that such corrections should be run (in full) at the beginning when they summarize the upcoming segments, and REPEATED some time during the show.
    I forget where I lived at the time, but the paper there had the policy of retractions/corrections/apologies being at the very end of the appropriate section, so they could be found without trouble.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    I probably still have it in my DVR, because that's automatic but I watched 60 Minutes "live" yesterday.

    I'll have to take a look-see, and notice whether the SUMMARY AT THE BEGINNING of the shows (where they spend about 0:40 or 1:00 talking about what will be on each segment) mentioned anything at all about an "apology" or admission they got a story wrong, etc.

    It will be very telling if there is no such mention anywhere in the summary. Nothing to cue viewers that they should stay tuned after the final commercial break, which is usually the end of the show with nothing more to come other than the Credits rolling by. After the third segment is over, I think a lot of viewers channelsurf, and miss anything that comes up after that last group of adevrtising, such as the FAIL "apology" they aired.

    I WOULD SUGGEST: Consider that, in board meetings and other meetings that follow the Roberts Rule of Order, the first thing often said when the meeting convenes, is "Is there any OLD business?" Retractions and corrections should always be the first thing that they do - just as I think that newspapers should put such items "above the fold" on the front page.
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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Lara Logan should be fired from CBS.

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    .
    CBS: Lara Logan, '60 Minutes' producer ordered to take leave

    http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20131126/NEWS12/311260043/

    Oh, my! What's poor Lindsey Graham going to do now?

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    Re: Ooops, 60 Minute's Benghazi Source Is A Liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
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    CBS: Lara Logan, '60 Minutes' producer ordered to take leave

    http://www.rgj.com/viewart/20131126/NEWS12/311260043/

    Oh, my! What's poor Lindsey Graham going to do now?
    Move to Fox?

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