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    Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    I finished watching my latest sci-fi fix, DS-9, and the way through, and went looking for something else. I came on Roddenberry's Andromeda, and almost every episode I wonder if it's going to turn better.

    Any fans here, with any encouragement?

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Wow, all those views and no responses.

    I'm trying to decide if the captain and crew are idiots, or what. He's got this big starship that needs thousands of crewpeople, but he keeps passing up opportunities to get some recruits! And a couple of the crew have had chances to pick up huge amounts of money, which would be great for parts and all, but they just go blithely on.

    I figure by the end of the first dozen episodes they should have had twenty or so recruits learning to help run things, but they keep going it alone. if anyone else has watched it . . . am I alone on this?

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    DS9 so much better than Andromeda, though I give Majel Barrett credit for getting some of Gene Roddenberry's other non Star Trek related visions on the air. Another was Earth: Final Conflict, which had some really good moments and performances but essentially another one that was okay, not overly memorable. I did like Kevin Sorbo, though...and Keith Hamilton Cobb looked amazing in his warrior get up and long dreadlocks. Just didn't find the overall story particularly enthralling..kinda a peacekeeper of the galaxy thing mixed with a Buck Rodgers man from another time thing.
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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    DS9 so much better than Andromeda, though I give Majel Barrett credit for getting some of Gene Roddenberry's other non Star Trek related visions on the air. Another was Earth: Final Conflict, which had some really good moments and performances but essentially another one that was okay, not overly memorable. I did like Kevin Sorbo, though...and Keith Hamilton Cobb looked amazing in his warrior get up and long dreadlocks. Just didn't find the overall story particularly enthralling..kinda a peacekeeper of the galaxy thing mixed with a Buck Rodgers man from another time thing.
    LOL Good summation.

    I kept getting annoyed, every episode, at the whole bridge-crew-as-superheroes bullshit. It was bad enough on the Star Trek shows, where the senior officers kept taking off like they didn't have anyone to give orders to, but on Andromeda it's like they don't even care that they don't have an actual crew.

    Oh -- and the second season intro is nauseating.....

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Why I loved DS9 compared even to TNG and the original series it just had a ton of character development... okay the war arc wasn't to everyone's taste but even then it hardly had that condescending "perfect, evolved humanity" aspect atmosphere of the others.Things were done that tested the whole Roddenberry perfect vision for humanity that in the end stayed true to the optimism but also reminded us as human beings we have multiple facets, and making mistakes and doing things that are hard moral choices will always be part of our makeup even as we strive towards being better.

    The shows like Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict just didn't have a good sense of direction, of what the hell the meaning of it all was. If I remember correctly there were several major zig zags in where these shows went.. as you remember correctly in Andromeda the disconnects were often unintentionally laugh out loud ludicrous.
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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Andromeda? Oh dear .. no sorry, it doesn't get better.
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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Why I loved DS9 compared even to TNG and the original series it just had a ton of character development... okay the war arc wasn't to everyone's taste but even then it hardly had that condescending "perfect, evolved humanity" aspect atmosphere of the others.Things were done that tested the whole Roddenberry perfect vision for humanity that in the end stayed true to the optimism but also reminded us as human beings we have multiple facets, and making mistakes and doing things that are hard moral choices will always be part of our makeup even as we strive towards being better.

    The shows like Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict just didn't have a good sense of direction, of what the hell the meaning of it all was. If I remember correctly there were several major zig zags in where these shows went.. as you remember correctly in Andromeda the disconnects were often unintentionally laugh out loud ludicrous.
    Definitely true of DS9. I fell in love with it because when it first began airing, I was doing research on the knightly orders in the Holy Land during the crusades, and the whole show just rang true to the situation of an outpost stuck between larger powers, at a strategic point, without really having the resources to do its job without balancing,balancing, balancing.

    As for Andromeda, yeah... last night I watched an episode where they found a planet that had a whole High Guard military infrastructure, and they ended up departing without even getting a few hundred volunteers to help run the ship! For a captain trying to put back together a galaxies-spanning civilization, that crosses into the realm of insanity!

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    I used to love watching Andromeda, but only for the eye candy. Tyr Anasazi and Telemachus Rhade--those Nietzscheans grow up fine as hell. As for plot and acting, well, even at a young age, I could tell all that stank to high heaven.

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Quote Originally Posted by neoachilles View Post
    I used to love watching Andromeda, but only for the eye candy. Tyr Anasazi and Telemachus Rhade--those Nietzscheans grow up fine as hell. As for plot and acting, well, even at a young age, I could tell all that stank to high heaven.
    Yeah -- after watching Babylon 5, DS 9, and the Star Gate series, Andromeda is cheap, tacky entertainment. The show concept had a lot of potential, but they wasted it to make a shallow adventure show.

    The only thing I really like so far is the slipstream FTL concept, with its association with string theory. The TRON-like data link to computers is sort of cool, too, but not all that futuristic because the computers all look like 20th-century architecture.

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    I'm a sci-fi fan although I have only seen a handful of Andromeda and never to completion, I never got into it. It always came across as... chintzy. Low-rent and meh.

    A show I now love is Babylon 5, never cared for it when it aired but what an awesome series. Sure, the FX are hugely dated but what a show. Bruce Boxleitner is also so yummy... "mmm.... hmmm."

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Whoa -- I have now learned that Trans is past of some incredibly exotic and apparently powerful alien race... now there's a plot device that could go somewhere!

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    OMG

    They just had a ZOMBIE episode!

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    I'm getting tired of Andromeda episodes looking like StarGate... I keep expecting J'fa to jump out of the bushes.


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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    I watched it few years ago when I was 14, only finished till season 3 I think.

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    It's annoying in that some episodes hold promise of a deep storyline, and then others are just shallow 'fun'.

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Kevin Sorbo being a huge homophobic ass-hat destroyed any entertainment value Andromeda might have otherwise had. Pity for the show, I might have watched it otherwise.
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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Kevin Sorbo being a huge homophobic ass-hat destroyed any entertainment value Andromeda might have otherwise had. Pity for the show, I might have watched it otherwise.
    Pretty sad that you ignore a show just because of some actor -- unless you got so mad at him at the mere sight of him that you couldn't follow the action.

    I find it makes much more sense to not even worry about who the actors are, and just enjoy the show for itself.

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    Re: Has anyone ever watched Andromeda?

    It's a sad commentary on the science education level of the general public that a show like this can portray as asteroid belt as having asteroids only kilometers apart.


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