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    So my partner and I and four other couples (all are straight/heterosexual: 2 are dating and LTR, the other 2 are married) went camping in the mountains. My partner and I are in an open relationship (I'm not totally in agreement with it, but that's another story for another day.). So here's the situation.....

    All of the couples have known each other for about four years. We decide to go camping and get a cabin in the mountains, which also includes extensive secluded property. For the evening, we all created a bonfire and everyone sat around it. The later the evening went on, the more the alcohol flowed freely, and the women went inside and went to bed. So it was just us guys sitting around the campfire.

    One of my friends, "Michael," is extroverted but can be introspective, he's a regular goofball and can be silly and make anyone laugh. He's very supportive of LGBT people and seems very comfortable in his own skin. And like a typical straight guy, he will make "that's what she said jokes," frequently grab and grope other guys in the playful manner that straight guys do, and well as simulate sex (like if one is bent over picking something up off the ground, he might stand behind and thrust).

    So Michael and I were sitting next to each other around the bonfire and talking. He was talking about when he was back in college and how there were two gay guys he was friends with who liked him for more than being a friend and he told them how he was straight. I don't think he messed around with them. Then he proceeds to talk about blow jobs and how this one girl he knew, if he had let her, would have given him a BJ, and I commented back that he should have let the gay friends do it.

    Michael then shifts the conversation to him working out. He works out daily and has an amazing body. "See I've been working out more." And he proceeds to let me feel his arms, pecs, and abs. This is nothing out of the ordinary. He's let me and my partner do similar things. It's usually been through clothing. All the guys are still sitting around the bonfire, everyone else having their own conversations. I proceed to feel his abs, "I'm still working on those," and it was skin-to-skin. No big deal and he doesn't care.

    I continue to feel, and eventually my hand starts rubbing his lower back (skin-to-skin, not through clothing). And my fingers then start running around his waist (which was covered by his jeans and belt, think similar to a TSA screening at the airport). I ask him "are you okay with this?" and he says yes. I continue to move my hand around his lower back and around his waist to his front under his belt line and my hand keeps getting lower and lower toward his front and going for his crotch. I keep asking him, "are you comfortable with this? are you okay?" Yes, and I keep going. My hand finally makes it to where his pubic hair is and his dick is hard. By this point, I'm hard and pre-cumming. I am rubbing his hard dick, not like jacking him off, but rubbing it. I lean over and whisper in his ear, "You're hard."

    I can't tell if he became uncomfortable or not, because he leaned more forward in the chair to where I couldn't feel him anymore and he joined in to another conversation. He then quickly went to bed after this. I felt weird around him this morning. He didn't say anything about it though I don't know how much he remembers (there were things people told him that he did that he didn't remember).

    I told my partner about all of this, and he was okay with it from our relationship perspective. But do I ask Michael, "hey, how much do you remember about Friday evening?" and then proceed to tell him or do I not say anything. There is part of me that feels weird about it since he is my friend (but he is so hot) and he's married (he and his wife are having difficulties, don't spend much time together, and sex is a rare). But I enjoyed it. And based on an erect penis in my hand, he seemed to enjoy it too. So do I tell or not? And could I also ask if he has ever been with a guy or how straight he considers himself? Should I also ask if he enjoyed it? And should I offer him an invitation for more "fun"? I told my partner that if Michael hadn't gone to bed and if I had had a chance to ask him, I would have asked if he wanted a blow job.

    I want to note that the intent of me telling him is a sense of guilt and wanting to be transparent and honest. Michael, I, and these other guys get together for each week for a guys' night--we have fun but it is also soul bearing and supportive, like a brotherhood. I don't want to lose Michael as a friend (though I don't think he would end the friendship over this.).

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    My advice, leave it alone. The whole thing sounds hot but not worth ruining a friendship. He is married and you both should respect bounderies. Dont bring it up unless he does.
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    I can't believe that he let you do this or that you actually did it. Alcohol is a great dis-inhibitor...but it can destroy relationships. Do not take this any farther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elohim2010 View Post
    and eventually my hand starts rubbing his lower back (skin-to-skin, not through clothing). And my fingers then start running around his waist
    Actually, you started rubbing his lower back. You copped a feel. And you're getting off on it again writing descriptively here.

    Your concern after the fact would be better deployed during the act. All of us have libidos, but he is married.

    Put it away. If your friendship is strong enough, it will survive.

    As it is, he might think you are testing the waters if you ask him about it. Let it go, and respect him and his wife.
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    Well it sounds a little like your friend misses intimacy with his wife.You touching him and admiring his body is probably the closest thing to passion he's felt in a while. He got hard. Your telling him he was hard snapped him out of it and reminded him of what was going on.

    I think he needs you to be a friend. Strictly platonic. Marital problems aren't easy, but a friendly ear and decent advice can make a world of difference for the good. Be that. If he has sex with you now while in this vulnerable state it's likely to impact your friendship. Just my two cents. Good luck.

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    Don't mess with it. You will lose a friend, and end up hurt, yourself...


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    So, I'm to believe that you're playing with a guy's dick around a campfire in front of other buddies? We do have a story forum here.
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    ^Was thinking the same thing as Seasoned.

    If half of what you posted has any truth and there was some slight copping a feel going on, then leave it be, if he wants to pursue something then let him approach you. Just be a friend to him and let him vent if he needs it and comes to you to vent about his issues. I would only ever condone "special favors" with friends who are in relationships only if their partners knew about it and gave the green light or in many instances in my case, have joined in...

    But I CAN say your story sounds suspect because if there were a group of mostly straight dudes sitting sound a campfire and one of them pulled up his shirt and another one started feeling his bod and rubbing his cock, all conversations would cease and if they didn't respond with something like, "WTF?!" they would be completely silent and staring intently. Either way, they would all have something new to talk about.

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    Regarding the validity of the incident. A) everything was very discreet. It's not like he was lifting his entire shirt up or off for everyone to see. B) said incident occurred around 1:30 to 2:00 a.m. with a nearly extinguished campfire. Had it been earlier in the evening, there would have been more light. C) there was nobody sitting to my immediate right for at least 3-4 chairs. And there was nobody sitting to Michael's left for at least 2-3 chairs. And those individuals were carrying on their own conversations and not paying attention to us. But yes, we would have given them something to talk about had we been caught.

    Thanks to all for the replies.
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    O.K. I can vividly see, and understand, from many personal experiences, the exact scene that you've described.

    I've known my college buds for (OMG!) 45yr. now. I've known them longer than their own wives have. We've all been through more girlfriends, together and apart, than I can keep track of. And, over the years, I've "messed with" two of those guys, including after their weddings, which I was in.

    The thing is, they ended up with Girls, while I ended up with a Guy. Kev, and I, have been together for 31 of those years. When Kev "happened", my buds, and their wives, and families, all took it in good stride. Kev has always been welcomed to our get-togethers, at the various homes, and vacation places, that are owned by the members of "our group". And, I think it's more than the fact that Kev is a Great Cook!

    SO ... Kev, and I, have been to those types of gatherings, and around those campfire situations, though Kev usually will also "turn in", shortly after "the women" do, because he still feels a bit "not quite belonging to" me, and my buds, more extensive history, and what we end up talking about, most of the time. Nothing wrong about that, though.

    All that said, I have a much more extensive knowledge of all the Guys, around that fire, than You, and your Friends, do with each other. And, I'm only saying that because you sound much Younger than I am.

    Still ... I thinks it's AWESOME that your married friends are including You, and Your Partner, in their plans! THAT is far more Valuable than I can put into words!

    Now ... about your buddy "Michael" ... and what happened that night ...

    First ... I'm curious as to where Your Partner was. Was He around that fire, too? If so, was he so engaged in conversation with the other Guys that He didn't notice what was happening with You and Michael that you later had to tell Him about it? And, if that's the case, I still think it Fantastic that He gets along with the other Guys so well! Sounds like He might be doing better at the "fitting in" part than Kev does.

    Second ... Given the timeline you've sketched ... It would seem that copious amounts of alcohol were already involved when "Michael" suggested you check out his abs. Which, by the way, is not all THAT "Weird" for a Str8 Guy to do. And, I'm also guessing that the alcohol intake gave You the "courage" to take it as far as You did, even though "Michael" had told You about his Gay Friends, and how he had put up a "barrier" to them "exploring" with Him.

    In other words, "Michael" had already Defined his Limits, and You were Aware of them, butt (given the "buzz" of the moment) decided to "test" those boundaries. And, "Michael", in a likely, seemingly temporary, "daze", let You keep going. Which is why, when You pointed out that he was HARD, brought him "back to Reality", and put an end to it.

    And, the fact that he was HARD really doesn't presume all that much Insight to the situation. Just like ANY Guy, Str8, Bi, Gay, or Whatever, Your playing with his body was pushing his Young "Natural Buttons", which resulted in his Erection, no matter Who may have been doing it. In other words, it wasn't a response to You, as much as it was simply a response to being Male, and being Played with!

    Given all that You know about "Michael", and if You TRULY Value his Friendship, I would NOT mention that Instance, of feeling him UP, unless he might, and I doubt he ever will (butt, you might get Lucky), want to revisit that Himself! In other words, unless HE ever says something, "For GED Aboud IT!" (Butt also keep It in Your "Spank Bank"!)

    Third ... What did Your Partner think about what you told him? Did He have any advise for You? And, I do think it's GREAT that You told Him!

    All in All ... Sounds like all the more reasons to ... No Matter What ...

    Keep smilin'!!
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    That's hot! Keep at it, and keep us updated!

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    @chaz....thank you for your reply and sharing your experiences. We are all in out mid to late 20s. And yes, by that time in the evening lots of alcohol had been consumed. My partner was actually sitting to my right having a conversation with another guy about something else. When I told my partner about what happened, he said no need to apologize and "I'm jealous it wasn't with Michael." (Again, open relationship).

    I think I have my answer and that's not to say anything at all to Michael. I don't want to damage our friendship or lose him as a friend.

    Back @chaz.....when I first joined just us boys and empty closets, I was in theology school at the time. I thought the English transliteration of one of the Hebrew names for God was a unique moniker. So Elohim it was. Thanks for the like and comment.

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    ^ I'm the first male, in many generations of my family, that did not go "Into The Church". Being raised "behind the altar" provided me with a "little bit" of insight into most of the Major Religions on This Planet.

    SO ... Even given the HUGE difference in our age ranges, that's just one more thing, the "theology bit", that we have in common.

    I'm certainly looking forward to seeing More of YOU "around the boards" of JUB!

    And, Yeah! Like Your Partner, I'm kind of jealous that I wasn't with "Michael", too!

    Just more reasons to ... No Matter What ...

    Keep smilin'!!
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    Sounds like to me he loves his body and the attention I would not look into it any further.

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