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    Gay for Pay

    I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but I've been thinking about gay for pay porn stars lately. For the longest time I've never been convinced that any of them are truly straight. I mean, taking dick up the butt is serious buiness, and a lot of them cum back and do it again, and again. Then I thought, if I am going to say, gay for pay is just a myth, than I have to saw, as a gay man, that I would never be able to do straight porn if paid. I can definitely say I wouldn't enjoy it, or at least I think I wouldn't enjoy it, but if someone gave me asked me to do straight porn, and said money was no object, I think I could probably do it....at the same time, if I really needed money that bad, I would probably find some other way to get it that I would at least enjoy.

    So would you fuck a girl on camera for money, or would you just do something else if you needed extra cash. I think this will help me answer the gay for pay questions, cause I still don't think most of them are straight.

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    The right definition of them is pansexual- I think.
    They can auto-erotic themselves to stimulation they like without overly consumed with sexual object in front of them (passive auto-erotism) or their mind wandering to opposite sex while in action- those 2 working simultaneously in their brain as their goal is money.

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    I'm going to guess you're young, and haven't had a lot of work experience. The sad reality is most people do stuff they don't like to earn a living. Depending on the pay, some people are willing to do stuff they hate, and look happy doing it.
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    I'd do it if they paid me enough.

    I'd have to be desperate though.
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    I don't think all the money in the world would give me an erection with a woman. That's what I don't understand about gay for pay.

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    I know for a fact that I could never have sex with a woman, my body just would not allow it; the mere thought is enough to make me feel nauseous. Even if I was destitute, I think I would rather make a living by begging on the streets than resort to doing straight porn and having sex with a woman. Whilst I realise that not everyone feels so strongly about this issue as I do, I still remain dubious as to whether the 'gay-for-pay' concept is genuine, those porn actors must be somewhat bisexual to even consider doing such a thing, after all, there are other, less drastic means to make money, so why resort to something so unappealing, if they are as straight as they say they are.

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    From reading ads on hookup sites, it becomes more than obvious that there are great numbers of gay men who are less interested in the object of desire than the act. So I don't find it incredible that straight men are often the same: for them, sex is less about focusing on the partner than being focused on.

    And I wouldn't apply the terms "gay for pay" and "pansexual" interchangeably. Pansexual has nothing to do with the mercenary nature of prostitution, only practice. Prostitution is commerce, not preference.

    I don't think I could be erect for a woman, but it's more a question of would you do prostitution, be it on camera or off. For my part, I'd rather be poor and do food service or other slave-wage work than to be in the sex trade. Many people believe there is no difference in the dignity between serving someone their dinner and serving up a piece of ass. Most of society disagrees, as do I.

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    Saying you're straight not only gets you more money, it gets you more gay fans in the seat wishing they could "convert" you, or at least sleep with you to say "they slept with a straight man", because obviously that's a big deal and a conquest.

    I don't see how anyone can NOT see how gay for pay works - it's simple bait, and it hooks gay men every time(I mean, just look at who we're sponsored by - it's safe to assume that's not on accident).
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    Simple demographics dictate that the "seduce a straight guy" fantasy will never go away. Something approximating five percent of men are gay, so 95% of our fellow men are straight. It is inevitable that a significant number of gay men of all ages will continue to crush on the guys we know, most of whom are straight.

    Yes, it's a bit silly, but perfectly natural.

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    Oh, I didn't mean to imply it wasn't natural - just commenting that the name itself is bait, rather than the truth of the situation(color me shocked when I discover one of them gay-for-pay boys is actually not straight).
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    No, I didn't mean to imply you did, just that so many posters on the forum do bemoan it.

    And I completely agree that it is just marketing, although Jasun would readily tell you that some of the most popular gay porn stars are straight.

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    I think most gay for pay are tops. Its not easy to bottom. I dont think many gay guys could have sex with a woman because they view the vagina as gross and it would kill the erection

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    I agree with m1thousand. I suspect far more straight guys are curious about anal sex -- particularly since so few women indulge them -- than gay guys are curious about fucking pussy.

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    You love showing off how good-looking you are and what a great performer you can be. You love being an object of desire. For some of us, being desired is a tremendous aphrodisiac.

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    Yeah, some people can fake it to a point of orgasm. I'm one of those that can't. I've slept with male and female, and ive never been able to get off with women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatimerRd View Post
    You love showing off how good-looking you are and what a great performer you can be. You love being an object of desire. For some of us, being desired is a tremendous aphrodisiac.
    Excellent point! There is certainly a lot of teasing and flirting that goes on by some straight men at the gym, at work and in other public places. For many, it will never go beyond the teasing. For others, the opportunity to act out those fantasies, to become an object of desire, for pay is incredibly enticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    I think most gay for pay are tops. Its not easy to bottom. I dont think many gay guys could have sex with a woman because they view the vagina as gross and it would kill the erection
    Not just the vagina. A lot of it is chemical reactions. The female form just simply doesn't spark with my chemistry. I don't view the vagina as disgusting. Its like looking at jello. Sure, it might have worked when I was going through puberty. But nowadays?

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    The female form just simply doesn't spark with my chemistry. I don't view the vagina as disgusting
    I think the same thing. The female form just doesnt do it for me but if she had a great body maybe I could get into the breasts. I can look at the vagina and not say "eww". As Ive said, I just think it looks like an unfinished surgical procedure and thats how I view it ;-)


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    Gay for pay is really just a form of mutual masturbation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journo25 View Post
    Excellent point! There is certainly a lot of teasing and flirting that goes on by some straight men at the gym, at work and in other public places. For many, it will never go beyond the teasing. For others, the opportunity to act out those fantasies, to become an object of desire, for pay is incredibly enticing.
    And I don't believe guys that do that are totally straight either...and you can't always think that is someone tells you they're straight that theyre telling the truth. But I agree with what someone said earlier, it is a clever marketing ploy.


    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    Billy Herrington got $20,000 to bottom in Conquered.
    Holy flippin cow!

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Gay for pay is really just a form of mutual masturbation.
    and again, I would say that guys that like to masturbate with each other, aren't straight either...
    Last edited by Cumlaskan; October 19th, 2013 at 10:32 AM.

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    This thread made me think of a quote in Peter Criss (former KISS drummer) autobiography. "There is a difference between Beverly Hills pussy and road pussy. Beverly Hills pussy is about money. Road pussy is for free." I believe that applies to not only gay porn but all professional porn itself as a whole. The guys on BrokeStraightBoys and MenAtPlay, that's about money. Amateur porn or just some guy you find on Grindr is for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombiekiller View Post
    Not just the vagina. A lot of it is chemical reactions. The female form just simply doesn't spark with my chemistry. I don't view the vagina as disgusting. Its like looking at jello. Sure, it might have worked when I was going through puberty. But nowadays?

    I honestly cannot say that I am repulsed by a vagina, it's just a normal body part on a female. It's just not for me.

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    No one argued that the performers "like" to masturbate together -- they are paid.

    Jasun Mark is a longtime member here who produces gay porn. He will quickly tell you how many truly straight men work in his industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Jasun Mark is a longtime member here who produces gay porn. He will quickly tell you how many truly straight men work in his industry.
    *cries* lol

    I was asked to be in porn once. The guy met me online back when gay.com was big, and said we could fool around before the movie was filmed to get used to each other. There was nothing straight about him, but he was masculine. I said yes, but later chickened out and didn't show up to the audition. lol

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    I'm gay. And if a bunch of qualifications were met, I'd go straight-for-pay. The qualifications are huge, however - most notably, they'd have to want an overweight hairy 40+ gargoyle to do a straight sex scene. But yeah, I can create a scenario where I'd have sex with a woman on camera.

    Of course, this doesn't answer your question. Because you can just say "well, you call yourself gay, but you're really bisexual" and not change your point of view at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    I think the same thing. The female form just doesnt do it for me but if she had a great body maybe I could get into the breasts. I can look at the vagina and not say "eww". As Ive said, I just think it looks like an unfinished surgical procedure and thats how I view it ;-)
    You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm not repulsed by the vagina, despite popular belief. But to me, it's like looking at my dog. Doesn't really do anything at all to me. And an unfinished surgical procedure is exactly how it looks.

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    da world at large fa eons
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    If the money is right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LatimerRd View Post
    You love showing off how good-looking you are and what a great performer you can be. You love being an object of desire. For some of us, being desired is a tremendous aphrodisiac.
    ^^ That actually a tremendous force of what drive them to gay porn/prostitution. Exactly, thx to completing my statement above.
    I actually got the source from a chit chat with an actual "gay for pay" in a bar long time ago.

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    Gay man antipathy towards vagina are huge, in higher number than guys grossing about hating anal sex- go figure, some doing it with their gf
    But to become anal sex receiver is a slightly difficult for straight (curious) guys, mostly they must break psychology, mentally or religious barrier before they enjoy the pleasure.

    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    .... I just think it looks like an unfinished surgical procedure and thats how I view it ;-)
    Really? Lemme dissect this
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    Billy Herrington got $20,000 to bottom in Conquered. Chad Hunt revealed the price during a segment on SexTV. I would post the clip but I lost it during my hard drive crash when I lost video captures and porn
    Is that a gay gladiator movie he played? If that so, art imitates life or history in that case. It took loss a tremendous amount of value for a respected man to be a bottom
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    Yes JPGhost,
    It was for the adult video, Conquered.

    I think of the agina opening as the 'surgical procedure'. I would play xbox online and sometimes when I mentioned I was gay, I would mention that, and the straight guys would laugh

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    My Own Observations and Comments

    1. The "physical act of sex"
    I took some psychology in school, which included topics around human sexuality. There was one particular discussion paper which stood out… and stuck with me though out the years since, in that… if you strip away all the external influences that may be involved preceding and during a sex act, and the sex act (whatever that may be) is down to its raw and simplest form of "physical enjoyment of the act"… then anyone is capable of having sex with someone of the same sex because we are (in varying capacities) all sexual beings . The example that was eluded to (I’ve simplified this to keep it short) was this real world experiment: You are a male who really enjoys receiving oral sex (getting a blow job). The male subject is escorted into a room and told to sit down. The lights are turned off. (All external "visual" stimuli is now non-existent). Another male enters the room and proceeds to perform oral sex on the male subject. The subject gets an erection and eventually after a few minutes of "physical stimulus"… ejaculates. The point this makes is that removing everything visual from the experience, and dealing strictly with the subjects physical pleasure of having his penis serviced by a hand and pair of lips... it ultimately didn't matter in the end who’s hand or pair of lips those were... male or female. It was simply “a hand” and “a pair of lips”. Ultimately the lesson was... if a person is capable of removing their various and sometimes complex emotions out of a physical experience, and deal strictly with the physical pleasure of a sex act, then people in general (and under the right circumstances) are capable of having some form of physical/pleasurable sex (whatever act that may be)... with someone of the same sex.

    2. Gay married guys
    It's been noted several times throughout this tread that woman/vagina = yuck… I am completely turned off by a vagina! That feeling definitely does not apply across the board to everyone gay… otherwise how do you explain married men who are gay and have families. I speak from my own current and previous friends in my life. Several of my current (and past) friends who are gay (in the closet or out of the closet) were married at one point in the life... some for a number of years... and have multiple kids with their wives at the time. If a gay man is incapable of getting an erection with a women because of the “yuck” factor... then how did these guys manage to copulate to produce all these kids? Obviously these gay friends of mine were able to go through the complete sex act (on numerous occasions) with their wives/girlfriends to either (a) keep their wives satisfied during the time they were together, and (b) make all those kids. So them being gay... they were able to be turned on in some capacity (probably physical... see point 1 above) to be able to perform the act of sex... with someone of the opposite sex... and not be repulsed by a "vagina".

    3. Living Proof
    I am also living proof that straight guys can and do enjoy sex with another guy, even if it may be outside their own emotional comfort zone and based on pure physical pleasure. I've had sex with some of my straight friends over the years, and it has been enjoyable experience by both parties. One of these stands out in particular. We were in our 20's. He was tall, blond, chiseled good looks, and definitely a ladies man. He could have most any girl he wanted... most anytime… and he usually did. One night him and I were sitting around having a couple drinks when the topic turned to sex. To make a long story short, we both ended up giving each other a blowjob. Here is a what I considered to be a "straight as a rail" guy... getting a blowjob from me (another male). He was not only able to get hard... but was able to cum. So… if this guy was so repulsed by the act, or having another male give him a blowjob, then the act wouldn't of even happened, let alone being able to get hard and cum. He is long since happily married with kids.

    4. Bathhouses
    I have a friend who is an accountant. One of his clients is one of the bathhouses in the city. He told me once a couple years back... without divulging names... that many of the clientele were what he considered to be upstanding citizens of the community and were married. If “all” straight guys are so repulsed by the fact of someone of the same gender having sex with them, then what are they doing in a gay bathhouse in the first place... if they knew a head of time that they would have no hope in hell if getting it up because of stimulus from another male. All the upstanding straight guys are able to receive physical pleasure from another guy... and obviously enjoy it.

    5. Gay4Pay
    Which brings me to the topic at hand... Gay4Pay. I have long believed that many of these guys are truly straight as they say (some may be bi, and some gay), but I believe that taking into account items 1,3 and 4 above, that they are just as capable of enjoying male-male sex (on the physical level) as we are. The only difference is that they are enjoying it based purely (in most cases) on physical pleasure, were us gays may have that extra layer of psychological/emotional attachment to the act or the person. These straight guys are enjoying it based purely on the physical/sexual pleasure of the act. The bonus for them is that in many cases they are getting paid for it. I also don't buy that "no straight guy would ever bottom for anal sex". Why not? Anal sex is obviously not for everyone, but I'm sure there are some straight guys who like the feeling of having their ass played with or penetrated... if even by their wives/girlfriends (see pegging). Who are we to generalize that “all” straight guys must hate receiving/bottoming for anal sex. That’s a pretty broad assumption.

    In summing up, I’m totally convinced that straight guys are capable of enjoying male/male sex if the circumstances are right... and if they are capable of either being open-minded, or willing to let their guard down... ridding themselves of any emotional or psychological baggage for awhile, and enjoying the act for simply what it is... something purely and physically pleasurable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    Yes JPGhost,
    It was for the adult video, Conquered.

    I think of the agina opening as the 'surgical procedure'. I would play xbox online and sometimes when I mentioned I was gay, I would mention that, and the straight guys would laugh
    sigh..do they ever take us seriously? :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by chames View Post
    My Own Observations and Comments

    1. The "physical act of sex"
    I took some psychology in school, which included topics around human sexuality. There was one particular discussion paper which stood out… and stuck with me though out the years since, in that… if you strip away all the external influences that may be involved preceding and during a sex act, and the sex act (whatever that may be) is down to its raw and simplest form of "physical enjoyment of the act"… then anyone is capable of having sex with someone of the same sex because we are (in varying capacities) all sexual beings . The example that was eluded to (I’ve simplified this to keep it short) was this real world experiment: You are a male who really enjoys receiving oral sex (getting a blow job). The male subject is escorted into a room and told to sit down. The lights are turned off. (All external "visual" stimuli is now non-existent). Another male enters the room and proceeds to perform oral sex on the male subject. The subject gets an erection and eventually after a few minutes of "physical stimulus"… ejaculates. The point this makes is that removing everything visual from the experience, and dealing strictly with the subjects physical pleasure of having his penis serviced by a hand and pair of lips... it ultimately didn't matter in the end who’s hand or pair of lips those were... male or female. It was simply “a hand” and “a pair of lips”. Ultimately the lesson was... if a person is capable of removing their various and sometimes complex emotions out of a physical experience, and deal strictly with the physical pleasure of a sex act, then people in general (and under the right circumstances) are capable of having some form of physical/pleasurable sex (whatever act that may be)... with someone of the same sex.

    2. Gay married guys
    It's been noted several times throughout this tread that woman/vagina = yuck… I am completely turned off by a vagina! That feeling definitely does not apply across the board to everyone gay… otherwise how do you explain married men who are gay and have families. I speak from my own current and previous friends in my life. Several of my current (and past) friends who are gay (in the closet or out of the closet) were married at one point in the life... some for a number of years... and have multiple kids with their wives at the time. If a gay man is incapable of getting an erection with a women because of the “yuck” factor... then how did these guys manage to copulate to produce all these kids? Obviously these gay friends of mine were able to go through the complete sex act (on numerous occasions) with their wives/girlfriends to either (a) keep their wives satisfied during the time they were together, and (b) make all those kids. So them being gay... they were able to be turned on in some capacity (probably physical... see point 1 above) to be able to perform the act of sex... with someone of the opposite sex... and not be repulsed by a "vagina".

    3. Living Proof
    I am also living proof that straight guys can and do enjoy sex with another guy, even if it may be outside their own emotional comfort zone and based on pure physical pleasure. I've had sex with some of my straight friends over the years, and it has been enjoyable experience by both parties. One of these stands out in particular. We were in our 20's. He was tall, blond, chiseled good looks, and definitely a ladies man. He could have most any girl he wanted... most anytime… and he usually did. One night him and I were sitting around having a couple drinks when the topic turned to sex. To make a long story short, we both ended up giving each other a blowjob. Here is a what I considered to be a "straight as a rail" guy... getting a blowjob from me (another male). He was not only able to get hard... but was able to cum. So… if this guy was so repulsed by the act, or having another male give him a blowjob, then the act wouldn't of even happened, let alone being able to get hard and cum. He is long since happily married with kids.

    4. Bathhouses
    I have a friend who is an accountant. One of his clients is one of the bathhouses in the city. He told me once a couple years back... without divulging names... that many of the clientele were what he considered to be upstanding citizens of the community and were married. If “all” straight guys are so repulsed by the fact of someone of the same gender having sex with them, then what are they doing in a gay bathhouse in the first place... if they knew a head of time that they would have no hope in hell if getting it up because of stimulus from another male. All the upstanding straight guys are able to receive physical pleasure from another guy... and obviously enjoy it.

    5. Gay4Pay
    Which brings me to the topic at hand... Gay4Pay. I have long believed that many of these guys are truly straight as they say (some may be bi, and some gay), but I believe that taking into account items 1,3 and 4 above, that they are just as capable of enjoying male-male sex (on the physical level) as we are. The only difference is that they are enjoying it based purely (in most cases) on physical pleasure, were us gays may have that extra layer of psychological/emotional attachment to the act or the person. These straight guys are enjoying it based purely on the physical/sexual pleasure of the act. The bonus for them is that in many cases they are getting paid for it. I also don't buy that "no straight guy would ever bottom for anal sex". Why not? Anal sex is obviously not for everyone, but I'm sure there are some straight guys who like the feeling of having their ass played with or penetrated... if even by their wives/girlfriends (see pegging). Who are we to generalize that “all” straight guys must hate receiving/bottoming for anal sex. That’s a pretty broad assumption.

    In summing up, I’m totally convinced that straight guys are capable of enjoying male/male sex if the circumstances are right... and if they are capable of either being open-minded, or willing to let their guard down... ridding themselves of any emotional or psychological baggage for awhile, and enjoying the act for simply what it is... something purely and physically pleasurable.
    Im so happy ready that^
    When someone just blabbering things which actually connect with my brain like electric outlet. I agreed with all of those^ bravo
    Nice reading.

    But I only want to add..I hope you dont think that human's sexual fluidity is more concrete as applicable to everyone of us. Orientation by far still the strongest party to differ between straight/ gay. People can be fluid but many still lies in between straight, gay or exclusively bisexual. What I learnt from my social study class..there are 4 things: sex, gender, sexuality and orientation. Gender and sexuality could range beyond your measurements but your biological sex+ orientation are what "anchored" you (more fixed)
    I do believe though..that if census of gay vs. straight actually is wrong (more than 5/10% world population?) If we also count...HOW many man can have same sex?
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    Have you ever been attacked by auto correct or your mind speaking too fast than your typing skill?
    Quote Originally Posted by JPGhost View Post
    Gay man antipathy towards vagina are huge, in higher number than (straight) guys grossing about hating anal sex- go figure, some doing it with their gf
    But to become anal sex receiver is a slightly difficult task for straight (curious) guys, mostly they must break psychologically, mentally or even religious barrier before they can enjoy the pleasure.
    And when they do..they're (ex-straight) usually very hardcore:
    I got one rare specimen here, well..according to his background story he put on his profile: http://www.xtube.com/community/profi...user=tightbung
    it's amazing to know his journey from straight-bisexual to fully gay..just because he's overly mesmerize by the pleasure from bottoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumlaskan View Post
    I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but I've been thinking about gay for pay porn stars lately. For the longest time I've never been convinced that any of them are truly straight. I mean, taking dick up the butt is serious buiness, and a lot of them cum back and do it again, and again. Then I thought, if I am going to say, gay for pay is just a myth, than I have to saw, as a gay man, that I would never be able to do straight porn if paid. I can definitely say I wouldn't enjoy it, or at least I think I wouldn't enjoy it, but if someone gave me asked me to do straight porn, and said money was no object, I think I could probably do it....at the same time, if I really needed money that bad, I would probably find some other way to get it that I would at least enjoy.

    So would you fuck a girl on camera for money, or would you just do something else if you needed extra cash. I think this will help me answer the gay for pay questions, cause I still don't think most of them are straight.
    Some gay men are silly enough to actually think these guys who do gay porn are NOT bisexual or probably gay in real life. The gay porn studios sell this silly fantasy about gay for pay.

    However, I'm gay and I don't care how much cash someone is going to pay me I'm not fucking a woman because I can't get an erection looking at a female body and I find vagina gross.

    These so called gay for gay guys are most likely gay or bisexual there is clearly a sexual attraction probably a curious about gay sex.

    People like Rocco Reed he admitted on You Tube a while back that he's had sex with other men off screen. At least guys like Rocco Reed are willing to go all the way he's sucked cock, got fucked up the ass, fucked other guys and kissed other men. Some people say Rocco Reed is a bad performer but I thought his films with Andrew Stark are pretty good.

    I find guys like Cody Cummings annoying, I don't watch his films it is insulting to gay men I feel for a performer to not go all the way. It is also kind of silly, so these guys like Cody Cummings won't suck cock, won't get fucked but they will fuck another man. Give me a break.

    These guys get some sexual pleasure to have sex with other men or else they wouldn't be doing gay porn. Contrary to popular belief gay porn does NOT pay a lot. Then people say guys do gay porn because it pays more than straight porn which may be true but it depends on the performer and if they have a following. Top straight male porn stars like James Deen he probably makes as much or more than gay porn stars. Female porn stars still make way more money than straight or gay male porn stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    Saying you're straight not only gets you more money, it gets you more gay fans in the seat wishing they could "convert" you, or at least sleep with you to say "they slept with a straight man", because obviously that's a big deal and a conquest.

    I don't see how anyone can NOT see how gay for pay works - it's simple bait, and it hooks gay men every time(I mean, just look at who we're sponsored by - it's safe to assume that's not on accident).
    I find the fantasy silly because male sexuality is different than female sexuality. I find it very hard to believe a 100% gay man is going to fuck a woman for cash. The money isn't that great in porn. Even the guys who do gay porn the money isn't that great either.

    These men are clearly not heterosexual, they are bisexual at least and probably gay they are getting a sexual satisfaction doing gay porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    Some gay men are silly enough to actually think these guys who do gay porn are NOT bisexual or probably gay in real life. The gay porn studios sell this silly fantasy about gay for pay.

    However, I'm gay and I don't care how much cash someone is going to pay me I'm not fucking a woman because I can't get an erection looking at a female body and I find vagina gross.

    These so called gay for gay guys are most likely gay or bisexual there is clearly a sexual attraction probably a curious about gay sex.

    People like Rocco Reed he admitted on You Tube a while back that he's had sex with other men off screen. At least guys like Rocco Reed are willing to go all the way he's sucked cock, got fucked up the ass, fucked other guys and kissed other men. Some people say Rocco Reed is a bad performer but I thought his films with Andrew Stark are pretty good.

    I find guys like Cody Cummings annoying, I don't watch his films it is insulting to gay men I feel for a performer to not go all the way. It is also kind of silly, so these guys like Cody Cummings won't suck cock, won't get fucked but they will fuck another man. Give me a break.

    These guys get some sexual pleasure to have sex with other men or else they wouldn't be doing gay porn. Contrary to popular belief gay porn does NOT pay a lot. Then people say guys do gay porn because it pays more than straight porn which may be true but it depends on the performer and if they have a following. Top straight male porn stars like James Deen he probably makes as much or more than gay porn stars. Female porn stars still make way more money than straight or gay male porn stars.

    Well, Cody Cummings....he's a pretty good looking man, but I don't believe he is gay. He is either bisexual or straight. It's just like how I don't really think that bodybuilder Frank DeFeo is totally straight, I always thought he was bi.

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    No doubt gay for pay exists -- some guys are offered large sums of money, others have drug/financial problems and are willing to take any money -- but I firmly believe that the majority of actors who tag themselves as gay for pay really are gay/bi. My all-time favorite (can't remember the title -- I downloaded it as a teenager off a 56K modem!) featured a hot white twink getting plowed by a dozen hung black males, yet he insisted that he was purely gay for pay. C'mon, really? More recently, I can think of Kurt Wild, who's got the "gay" look, takes huge cocks yet is quick to point out he's married with children and is just acting -- REALLY WELL -- on camera. Ultimately, I believe some people who can't cope with their sexuality utilize "gay for pay" as a way to act out their desires, yet justify it by the money. And then there's guys who claim to be gay for pay - while being openly gay outside the business - because it brings in extra dollars. Kinda like those Craigslist ads from those "straight" guys seeking sex with other men every single day....

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    My experience may or may not be typical, but for me, gay-for-pay was the ideal introduction to gay sex. I had a lot of great sex, happy to believe and assert that it was all about money, adventure and experimentation. Eventually I realized it was more than that--that I was in fact gay--but at the time, given my self-image of who I was and where I was going in life, gay-for-pay was the ticket.

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    $1?

    I'm in! :-P
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southwest85 View Post
    No doubt gay for pay exists -- some guys are offered large sums of money, others have drug/financial problems and are willing to take any money -- but I firmly believe that the majority of actors who tag themselves as gay for pay really are gay/bi. My all-time favorite (can't remember the title -- I downloaded it as a teenager off a 56K modem!) featured a hot white twink getting plowed by a dozen hung black males, yet he insisted that he was purely gay for pay. C'mon, really? More recently, I can think of Kurt Wild, who's got the "gay" look, takes huge cocks yet is quick to point out he's married with children and is just acting -- REALLY WELL -- on camera. Ultimately, I believe some people who can't cope with their sexuality utilize "gay for pay" as a way to act out their desires, yet justify it by the money. And then there's guys who claim to be gay for pay - while being openly gay outside the business - because it brings in extra dollars. Kinda like those Craigslist ads from those "straight" guys seeking sex with other men every single day....
    I do think sure, there are some men who do gay porn who could definitely be bisexual, but I do not believe these men are straight.

    There are gay men who do straight porn too, I think the guy's name is Castro. Castro insists he's not gay, he could be bisexual.

    But I find that hard to believe Castro is straight I don't think he is. Castro definitely gets off on gay sex, and he's fucked so many men had so many men suck his cock he's getting sexual pleasure and enjoyment from it. I've seen Castro fuck men and women.

    Matt Hughes, the British porn star he says he's not gay, he could be bisexual too though. Hughes has done some straight porn but he's also done plenty of gay porn and unlike Castro in most of his gay porn movies he's sucking cock. making out with other guys ect.

    I remember a video of Castro having sex with Tiger Tyson and he was taking it up the ass pretty easily and he definitely was enjoying himself.

    Does anyone know how much these guys are really offered for gay porn? I heard gay porn stars don't make a lot of money as people think. I heard the gay porn starts start off with maybe $500 to $1000 dollars a scene which actually isn't a lot of money. But I suppose if a porn star has a contract they might make some dough.

    Dakota Cochrane the MMA fighter claims he made $80,000 from Sean Cody for 16 films but a lot of people disputed this they say it seems a bit high that he got that kind of money.

    Anyone know for sure?

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    I think the truth is a lot more people are bisexual than is commonly admitted.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unloadonme View Post
    I don't think all the money in the world would give me an erection with a woman. That's what I don't understand about gay for pay.
    And yet, guys can get off on a fleshlight.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumlaskan View Post
    So would you fuck a girl on camera for money, or would you just do something else if you needed extra cash. I think this will help me answer the gay for pay questions, cause I still don't think most of them are straight.
    I'd happily do it and enjoy doing it, so maybe I'm just a little bit bi?

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    Do you think that getting rimmed by a woman can be construed as "taking it up the ass?"

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    I think it all depends on to what degree a guy is "straight". I very much believe that the Kinsey scale is accurate.

    0 Exclusively heterosexual
    1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
    2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
    3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual
    4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
    5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
    6 Exclusively homosexual

    As I am a "6", exclusively homosexual, I could never get an erection for a woman no matter how much money I was offered, and conversely I believe that a guy who is a "0", exclusively heterosexual could not do gay porn, but as there are so many guys who fit into the in between categories, that is where the "straight" gay for pay porn actors come from. They may live a totally straight lifestyle, but they are willing and capable of having gay sex for money, while still classifying themselves as straight.

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    I think there are definitely some truly gay for pay performers out there... you can generally tell that they're not that into it, are only staying hard because of viagra/other injections, and when the time comes to ejaculate, they're jerking off and looking anywhere but at their scene partner (presumably there's straight porn playing off-camera).

    judging their sexuality based on their erection is a bit faulty, though... gay and straight, it's pretty widely accepted that many (most?) porn actors use viagra or other erection drugs/injections to stay hard for the hours required by a porn shoot.

    but I think the question gets mucked up because there are also studios out there who tell their bi/gay performers to butch it up and pretend to be straight on-camera (Corbin Fisher, I think, is really badly guilty of this).
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    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfan34 View Post
    Do you think that getting rimmed by a woman can be construed as "taking it up the ass?"
    Interesting semantics. When I hear that phrase, I assume the guy is taking a dick up his butt, or maybe a dildo. I wouldn't think a tongue or finger inserted by either sex, however pleasurable, constitutes "taking it up the ass."

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    I reckon I'd be a 5, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by dukemike View Post
    I think it all depends on to what degree a guy is "straight". I very much believe that the Kinsey scale is accurate.

    0 Exclusively heterosexual
    1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
    2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
    3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual
    4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
    5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
    6 Exclusively homosexual

    As I am a "6", exclusively homosexual, I could never get an erection for a woman no matter how much money I was offered, and conversely I believe that a guy who is a "0", exclusively heterosexual could not do gay porn, but as there are so many guys who fit into the in between categories, that is where the "straight" gay for pay porn actors come from. They may live a totally straight lifestyle, but they are willing and capable of having gay sex for money, while still classifying themselves as straight.

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