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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    He could have refused to sign up. He's a slime ball.

    I advocate everyone to be healthy, wealthy, and wise.
    I advocate strippers and whiskey.

    BANKSIDE IS A COMMIENADIAN!!!!!!

    I just knew it! You can have my billions when you pry them from my cold dead hands!!!

    The problem with that, is that the American Dream tells you that YOU will be Bill Gates and who wants to make policy taking our mythical billions away?

    You'd have to convince Americans that yes indeeedy they are going to die poor first.
    ATTACK OF THE LIBERAL ELITE

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I advocate strippers and whiskey.

    BANKSIDE IS A COMMIENADIAN!!!!!!

    I just knew it! You can have my billions when you pry them from my cold dead hands!!!

    The problem with that, is that the American Dream tells you that YOU will be Bill Gates and who wants to make policy taking our mythical billions away?

    You'd have to convince Americans that yes indeeedy they are going to die poor first.
    I don't think anyone really believes in that American dream any longer. I know hardly anyone who thinks that what they can even be much more successful than their parents, and that people like Bill Gates are the exception.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    It's really none of your business what Gates and Buffet do with their money.

    Since you're judging them like this, is it alright if we judge you like this too?
    Make sure you remember what you just said.

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I don't think anyone really believes in that American dream any longer. I know hardly anyone who thinks that what they can even be much more successful than their parents, and that people like Bill Gates are the exception.
    That's the sad truth. No one I've ever talked to my age or younger (at least, excluding wildly delusional people) seemed to have any confidence that they'd do better than their parents. Most are aiming at "hopefully eventually catching up to their parents." Including owning homes.

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Make sure you remember what you just said.
    So you agree it's alright for everyone to judge you. Thanks.

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    That's the sad truth. No one I've ever talked to my age or younger (at least, excluding wildly delusional people) seemed to have any confidence that they'd do better than their parents. Most are aiming at "hopefully eventually catching up to their parents." Including owning homes.
    Home ownership is a big one. I know a number of 30-somethings who have given up on ever owning their own, unless they inherit one, even though their parents have substantial ones. It's one of my beefs about the bail-out: we should have done as Iceland did, and bailed out the people suckered into buying homes they couldn't actually afford, not the banks -- the banks would have been saved by the payments coming in, and the people would have stayed on the path to becoming homeowners.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    It's one of my beefs about the bail-out: we should have done as Iceland did, and bailed out the people suckered into buying homes they couldn't actually afford, not the banks -- the banks would have been saved by the payments coming in, and the people would have stayed on the path to becoming homeowners.
    YES!

    I remember thinking the same thing. Anyone who qualifies and willing to meet certain conditions would get assistance to pay their bills for three or four months. The biggest scam of my lifetime was the mortgage securities sector saying "Well it's too complicated to figure out who is owed the bad debt so we give up."

    I would have made them sweat it out. I would have made them untangle the mess, compute their losses, and let the market assign blame and carnage and write-down in the best capitalist tradition, without all that horrible government red tape and bureaucracy wading in to save their sorry capitalist asses.

    And, if they felt like not lending, I would have threatened to start lending in competition with them. Fuck hiring the banks to provide capital liquidity to the market, I would have done it directly. And instead of ditching their jets and taking limos to attend inquiries of congresses and parliaments in a show of frugality, they would have been shitting themselves and arriving out of breath on bicycles.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    I recall saying similar 4 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    The surest way to continue the collapse of the banking and mortgage sector is to stop their flow of income. A mortgage holder who can make 75% of his repayments is better for the bank than losing the mortgage and selling the house at half its value, or not selling it at all.

    I'm surprised it isn't the banks supporting this action - making SUBSTANTIAL concessions to retain paying customers, even if it means extending loan terms to reduce payments. Obviously some foreclosures have to happen, but the banks should be doing their utmost to retain mortgage clients in this climate.
    Bailing out the banks and not the mortgages simply set the same cards back up so they can fall over again later.

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    Re: Democracy has been suspended by the Tea Party Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    I recall saying similar 4 years ago.



    Bailing out the banks and not the mortgages simply set the same cards back up so they can fall over again later.
    Exactly.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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