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    Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Ted Cruz said on the senate floor recently "you are not supposed to speak for the people",
    and its because congress doesn't represent the people.

    Cruz is becoming Democrats best friend, he single highhandedly derailed the entire establishment Washington insider game of money bought politics by using the government shutdown to get a tea-party ransom brought up, Obamacare.

    Democrats wont vote to undo the ACA, but the Democrats are in a position to offer Cruz and the tea-party something else.

    That doesn't include any part of Obamacare, but they can find common ground to open the government back up fully without Boehner and the establishment GOPs help, most of the tea-party didnt vote for Boehner for speaker to begin with.

    It may be time for Democrats and the tea-party to reach a private compromise.

    While Rachel Maddow highlighted the unlikely scenario of using a discharge petition to pass a clean resolution to fund government, it doesn't mean the tea-party cant write their own bill and let democrats sign on.

    This is an idea Tim Carney talks about in this video with Chris Hayes on MSNBC.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49263362#53190713

    While this may seem politically dangerous for Democrats and the tea-party, its even more dangerous politically for the establishment GOP to be blamed for the shutdown, because they would be most at risk for losing their seats in congress.

    In fact the establishement GOP may have no choice but to offer even more concessions to the tea-party and democrats. There doesnt need to be any more game playing, or posturing. Letting the government shutdown happen put American lives in danger, families at risk. Stop letting the establishment GOP tell America what to do.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Huh?

    The Tea Partites want the government shut down! They think it's wonderful, because they believe that people will decide that we don't need all those services anyway, so they'll vote in more Tea Party people to make a smaller government.

    If Boehner had any balls, he'd make a deal with the Democrats and tell the Tea Partites to go to hell. But he's a wus, not a leader, so we're stuck.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Ditto what Kulio said.

    I would add that the war cry of TeaPartiers is that compromise is failure. Obviously they would have to compromise with Democratic members (including Obama) to get a signed CR. They would never do that. Plus to their minds eye, once they sign a Cr they have given up their power. Remember how they a "just giddy about it" and "kinda excited"
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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    SOrry,I wouldn't unite with the Tea Party for anything.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    SOrry,I wouldn't unite with the Tea Party for anything.
    I sat here five minutes trying to think of something I might unite with them on, but the fact is that it would require compromise on their part, and to them that's like selling their souls to the devil. And that's sad, because the actual Tea Party has a very good point -- but because they won't compromise at all, they'll never even move us toward that goal.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post

    If Boehner had any balls, he'd make a deal with the Democrats and tell the Tea Partites to go to hell. But he's a wus, not a leader, so we're stuck.
    This ^^^

    My opinion all along has been that Boehnor's only viable option is to coalesce a few dozen moderate Republicans with the House minority. It's the option that gives him more power and preserves his rule with the moderate Republicans. The only danger is that Boehner could lose a confidence vote to another speaker. This is the state of our Democracy where a tiny minority from an unelected House majority rules Washington.

    I don't know how likely that ideal is. There is a general feeling that the golden age of statecraft we had earlier in the 20th century is gone forever.
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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    I'm still baffled by the idea that somehow destroying the Republicans would be a good idea unless you think that it would mean that the Tea Party would be the second party in the US and would never gather enough support to ever be in government? A representative democracy must have healthy opposition in order to prevent it from descending into corrupt dictatorship. What is really needed here is a movement to rid the Republicans of the fringe elements like the Tea Party and the wacktivist religious freaks who have hijacked the agenda.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I'm still baffled by the idea that somehow destroying the Republicans would be a good idea unless you think that it would mean that the Tea Party would be the second party in the US and would never gather enough support to ever be in government?
    That's the idea.

    A representative democracy must have healthy opposition in order to prevent it from descending into corrupt dictatorship. What is really needed here is a movement to rid the Republicans of the fringe elements like the Tea Party and the wacktivist religious freaks who have hijacked the agenda.
    The problem is that the country needs a correctional jerk to the left, where the rest of the developed world would consider moderate.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Ted Cruz being elected would be the worst thing to happen to this country.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Ted Cruz being elected would be the worst thing to happen to this country.
    Just having Rafael Cruz elected Senator is one of the worst things to have happened to this country.

    Look what he's done in his few months in office..... pushed to shut down the government, made a chump of the Speaker of the House and may try to drive the country over the cliff. This Canadian is a traitor.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    ^ At least he can never be president

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    The problem is that the country needs a correctional jerk to the left, where the rest of the developed world would consider moderate.
    That is what is happening currently while the republican party slowly impales itself on stupidity. Just a testament to how entrenched our political parties are in this system designed for a fight. Show how entrenched because it has taken so damn long to kill that party off.
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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ^ At least he can never be president
    Oh, but he sure is gonna try. The republicans have tried to elect foreigners before. George Romney, John McCain.

    Now a Cuban communist Canadian will seek the Oval Office. You can tell from his first few months in office he's trying to destroy the country.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I'm still baffled by the idea that somehow destroying the Republicans would be a good idea unless you think that it would mean that the Tea Party would be the second party in the US and would never gather enough support to ever be in government? A representative democracy must have healthy opposition in order to prevent it from descending into corrupt dictatorship. What is really needed here is a movement to rid the Republicans of the fringe elements like the Tea Party and the wacktivist religious freaks who have hijacked the agenda.
    Its the Moderate GOP that will suffer most if a compromise isn't reached not the tea-party, not democrats.

    If Bohener and the moderates were to ditch the tea-party don't you think they would have done it by now?

    Boehner wants democrats to do his dirty work and offer them something like a tax cut, i say fuck Bohener for not standing up to his own party and letting government shut down. Hijack the tea-party away from the GOP, pass something that will make the tea party AND democrats happy, and that is marginalizing the GOP with this opportunity.

    Tea partiers are not in danger of losing their seats, the establishment GOP has the most to lose because they are at their weakest right now. If the tea-party demands are not met, will they suddenly disappear? No. Will the GOP stop trying to defund Obamacare? No.

    I would rather fight the tea-party extremists than having to go through Boehner who is only interested in protecting the establishment.

    Democrats have a shot at dismantling the moderate GOP and can split up what is left of the republican party between them, which means democrats would gain control of the house!

    I cannot believe how short sighted Democrats are being right now! Do they want more candidates like Sharon Engle who lost to Harry Reid, and Christine "Im not a witch" O'Donnell who lost, the guy who lost to Claire McCaskill or sensible republicans like Christy and McCain?

    Its the moderate GOP who pose a bigger danger to Democrats and our agenda!

    Not a SINGLE moderate republican VOTED for Obamacare, why would we ever count on ANY republican do to what is right for America?
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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    ^^^ According to the latest Public Policy Poll, the GOP will lose the House next year, and the remainder will be almost entirely the Tea Party.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Silencing those who disagree has consistently been an element of the liberal / Marxist psychology. Liberals yearn for a one party state.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Silencing those who disagree has consistently been an element of the liberal / Marxist psychology. Liberals yearn for a one party state.
    The only group acting in an anti-democratic manner here is the Tea Party led Republicans. The pretend to revere the Constitution, yet act in manner completely at odds with the letter and intent of the Constitution. They lost an election in which Obamacare was the main issue, lost at the Supreme Court, and have lost in the court of public opinion. Yet, a minority of Republicans has shut down the government and threatens to default the government and throw the entire world into a recession, or worse depression, if they do not get their way.

    The Tea Party is largely a Southern based, reactionary group that is the heir to the people who pushed the country into Civil War over slavery and "states rights," that resisted (violently at times) to granting African Americans full civil rights in defiance of Congress and the Courts. We have a Southern problem in this country that has plagued us from the birth of the Republic.

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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    The congress is constitutionally disallowed from not paying its debts,
    , meaning, congress doesn't have the right to say "no" to a debt limit increase when they have already voted to spend.

    Treasury can continue to borrow money to pay debt if congress refuses to act.

    The debt limit increased 500% Under Reagan and Bush 1, between Clinton and Obama, its a 20% increase.

    Bush Jr. accounted for a doubling of the debt, from 6 to over 12 trillion, in case you were wondering.

    Republicans are accountable for 80% of the debt the country currently has.

    If anyone disagrees just google search us debt limit.

    The debt ceiling has been raised 74 times since March 1962,[1] including 18 times under Ronald Reagan, eight times under Bill Clinton, seven times under George W. Bush, and three times under Barack Obama.
    There is nothing republicans can do to stop the President from unilaterally ignoring the debt ceiling, or we can impeach every member of congress.

    The debt limit is not a legal form of legislation, which is what Obama has been saying for a long time now.
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    Re: Tea-Party and Democrats should use this moment to destroy the GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Silencing those who disagree has consistently been an element of the liberal / Marxist psychology. Liberals yearn for a one party state.
    Fun fact - the American Family Association had a poll a few days ago, asking if people thought Illinois should allow businesses to discriminate against gay couples. After the poll kept going in the totally "wrong" way for them, they reset it a number of times, and when it still showed that no, Illinois should not allow that, they just took it down.

    Another fun fact - any time a "conservative" posts some crazy video on any subject, ESPECIALLY a religious or marriage one, comments are disabled. That never happens on liberal videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    ^^^ According to the latest Public Policy Poll, the GOP will lose the House next year, and the remainder will be almost entirely the Tea Party.
    kick them while they are down.
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    You were saying?
    I think he was reminding us of who the delusional one really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Silencing those who disagree has consistently been an element of the liberal / Marxist psychology. Liberals yearn for a one party state.
    Obama doesn't create "free speech zones" and force all non-supporters to go sit in a segregated fenced area. I can tell you a President who did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    kick them while they are down.
    Not every GOP district is safe, although most of them are, especially the ones where the real crazies are from. Quite a few districts are in states with a mixed or Democratic legislature, or a state with a non-partisan districting commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Not every GOP district is safe, although most of them are, especially the ones where the real crazies are from. Quite a few districts are in states with a mixed or Democratic legislature, or a state with a non-partisan districting commission.
    Yes that is why leaders from blue states need to plan contingencies in case the federal government collapses.

    Washington is a State that would be much better off without federal obligations.

    A political party that would allow fellow citizens to go hungry and lose their homes, their jobs, their savings to further a political agenda are not entitled to our 'sympathy'.

    They do not give a damn about this country.
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    They do not give a damn about this country.
    I agree. Look how many of them have substantial interests overseas in places like Dubai, or route as much of their money as they can overseas.

    Yet the same people who'd probably say that someone who owned more financial stake in Dubai than in the U.S. was un-"Amurken" still vote for the party largely representing and advocating for this brand of multinationalist, with no real critical stake in day to day life in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Its the Moderate GOP that will suffer most if a compromise isn't reached not the tea-party, not democrats.

    If Bohener and the moderates were to ditch the tea-party don't you think they would have done it by now?

    Boehner wants democrats to do his dirty work and offer them something like a tax cut, i say fuck Bohener for not standing up to his own party and letting government shut down. Hijack the tea-party away from the GOP, pass something that will make the tea party AND democrats happy, and that is marginalizing the GOP with this opportunity.

    Tea partiers are not in danger of losing their seats, the establishment GOP has the most to lose because they are at their weakest right now. If the tea-party demands are not met, will they suddenly disappear? No. Will the GOP stop trying to defund Obamacare? No.

    I would rather fight the tea-party extremists than having to go through Boehner who is only interested in protecting the establishment.

    Democrats have a shot at dismantling the moderate GOP and can split up what is left of the republican party between them, which means democrats would gain control of the house!

    I cannot believe how short sighted Democrats are being right now! Do they want more candidates like Sharon Engle who lost to Harry Reid, and Christine "Im not a witch" O'Donnell who lost, the guy who lost to Claire McCaskill or sensible republicans like Christy and McCain?

    Its the moderate GOP who pose a bigger danger to Democrats and our agenda!

    Not a SINGLE moderate republican VOTED for Obamacare, why would we ever count on ANY republican do to what is right for America?
    "...pass something that will make the tea party AND democrats happy...."

    If Democrats want it, it won't make the Tea Partites happy. To them Democrats are socialists and communists hell-bent on destroying America. The only things the Democrats could propose that would make the Tea Partites happy would be doing away with the Departments of Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, and Housing and Urban Development, and ending all programs associated with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    The Tea Party is largely a Southern based, reactionary group that is the heir to the people who pushed the country into Civil War over slavery and "states rights," that resisted (violently at times) to granting African Americans full civil rights in defiance of Congress and the Courts. We have a Southern problem in this country that has plagued us from the birth of the Republic.
    I don't know I think Ryan, and Walker along with Bachmann and Palin are pretty big names in the T Party. I believe PA has a whacked out T party Gov as well as Santorum . Darrell Issa, Grover Norquist these are not southern T party mobsters. There are many examples, yet these are some major repulsive big mouth wrecking crews who don't hail from the south. Cruz is Texan but he could just as easy be from MO or WS. The nasty backward southern Republicans were nuts before the T-party and are nuts now even if they aren't true T party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    I don't know I think Ryan, and Walker along with Bachmann and Palin are pretty big names in the T Party. I believe PA has a whacked out T party Gov as well as Santorum . Darrell Issa, Grover Norquist these are not southern T party mobsters. There are many examples, yet these are some major repulsive big mouth wrecking crews who don't hail from the south. Cruz is Texan but he could just as easy be from MO or WS. The nasty backward southern Republicans were nuts before the T-party and are nuts now even if they aren't true T party.
    In fairness isn't Palin a transplanted Southerner?

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    In fairness isn't Palin a transplanted Southerner?
    Originally from Idaho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Originally from Idaho.
    The South can have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Silencing those who disagree has consistently been an element of the liberal / Marxist psychology. Liberals yearn for a one party state.
    This may come as a big surprise to you but one of the reasons that liberals are so unruly is that they allow a broad spectrum of opinion and thought in their political and social ideology. So there is no such thing as a one party liberal state. The fact that you think it is possible demonstrates the rigidity and intellectual paucity of your understanding of liberalism. Again.

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    The South can have it.
    I suppose anyone who can see Russia from his or her* house probably considers most of the rest of us to be southerners.

    *(Is that okay, Alnitak?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    This may come as a big surprise to you but one of the reasons that liberals are so unruly is that they allow a broad spectrum of opinion and thought in their political and social ideology. So there is no such thing as a one party liberal state. The fact that you think it is possible demonstrates the rigidity and intellectual paucity of your understanding of liberalism. Again.
    The term "DINO" doesn't exist at least not since Joe Lieberman left Congress.

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    Democrats and the Tea Party are opposites of each other, and the Tea Party is the deadly cancer that have spread through the Republican Party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love me 2 View Post
    Democrats and the Tea Party are opposites of each other, and the Tea Party is the deadly cancer that have spread through the Republican Party.
    That's what the OP apparently doesn't get: if the Democrats in the House tomorrow introduced a bill lifted directly from a Tea Party web site, the Tea Partites in Congress would oppose it, just because it was introduced by Democrats.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    That's what the OP apparently doesn't get: if the Democrats in the House tomorrow introduced a bill lifted directly from a Tea Party web site, the Tea Partites in Congress would oppose it, just because it was introduced by Democrats.
    What I said was "it doesn't mean the tea-party cant write their own bill and let democrats sign on."

    But it seems a republican doomsday is less likely now that Boehner is starting to buckle, if the speaker would have held out any longer he would have lost his speaker-ship. A vote would have occurred regardless because congress is changing its tune in the face of political doom, that they will now tie re-opening the government to the debt ceiling.

    As long as democrats don't show any weakness, America wins.
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    I'm still not getting why you think that the Tea Party wing-nuts and the Dems could somehow be allies. The Tea-party parasites know that they only are alive as long as they have a host in the GOP. They aren't stupid enough to kill the very body that allows them to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I'm still not getting why you think that the Tea Party wing-nuts and the Dems could somehow be allies. The Tea-party parasites know that they only are alive as long as they have a host in the GOP. They aren't stupid enough to kill the very body that allows them to live.
    It's not for lack of trying, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    What I said was "it doesn't mean the tea-party cant write their own bill and let democrats sign on."
    There's no bill the Tea Partites would ever write that Democrats would sign onto -- but if by some miracle that happened, when the bill came to a vote, the Tea Partites would vote against it.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    The Tea Party's Logics are Twisted, and it sows confusion among the Population, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    A representative democracy must have healthy opposition in order to prevent it from descending into corrupt dictatorship. .
    Which is precisely what's been happening with the Obama "my way or the highway" regime. He acts more like a dictator every day. And let us not forget that one of his aides prophetically announced "we're ready to rule" at the time of his first election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    Which is precisely what's been happening with the Obama "my way or the highway" regime. He acts more like a dictator every day. And let us not forget that one of his aides prophetically announced "we're ready to rule" at the time of his first election.
    Dictators get held up by 40 Congresspeople? News to me. If he had them all shot maybe we can talk about this reality you're making up out of thin air.

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    Yeah, they only say this stuff for lack of anything real to say...

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    ^ I know. Ain't it simply risible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Dictators get held up by 40 Congresspeople? News to me. If he had them all shot maybe we can talk about this reality you're making up out of thin air.
    LOL

    No kidding.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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