Is it contagious?
Any idea where I can download this movie? I've seen several clips including this one and it looks good.
Lookin' good, thanks for sharing.
Does anyone think this is possible or just a subject thought up for a film? I must say I would like to see the film and it gives me a slight hope that perhaps my days of sexual experiences with younger men are not yet over.
I have a 21 year old friend who likes older men genuinely and not for their money.
Very interesting, exploring the dynamics of this type of relationships. Anything is possible I guess. Very cute couple though.
"... You think the only people who are people
Are the people who look and think like you ..." - Colours of the Wind by Vanessa Williams
I'll admit the idea weirds me out more than a little bit, having a massive age gap. I mean, most parents struggle to really get their kids for large portions of their lives, even when the kids are functioning adults with kids of their own, so I'm not entirely sure how an intimate relationship even starts.
I will freely admit that this is my own prejudice, though, and others can no doubt shoot it down in flames.
That aside, an honest question - when does going for a specific type move out of the realm of mere preference and into the realm of fetish? That's another thing which has always worried me a little, that the sort of guys or girls I generally have an interest in and have been out with are really more of the latter than anything else.
Half of the gay couples I see in bars/streets etc are intergenerational, so I have absolutely no idea why some people are still surprized by it.
I´m 24 and my bf is double my age, though I have seen way bigger diferences than this one. So, OP, it IS possible.
I would accept the definition of it being a "fetish".
In other extracts from the film his relationship with old men is not just emotional it is a physical desire to touch their skin to actually have sex with them; though I presume he builds up an emotional relationship with the guy we see in this extract.
It obviously extremely difficult for most of us to understand this. I would presume it is not a "fetish" extremely common.
How would you consider a sexual relationship with a 70yr old guy?
If I have understood the subject of the film it is not about younger men fancying "daddies" with silver hair and a good body; rather the "warts and all" aspects of us over 60s.
Yes, here it is not uncommon to witness 70 year old men, and young men in a loving relationship that endures.
It could be said that there are material benefits for the younger man, that add to the older man's allure.
Go and take a look outisde at actually 50 year olds men and you´ll get an idea.
Last edited by aaggii; March 12th, 2014 at 05:34 AM.
I am in a loving relationship with a much younger man...but when I was free and doing the rounds of the bars I had no problem attracting sexual partners from among the teen crowd anxious to spend a night away from their parent's home....enjoying a night of passion.....did this include paying for their taxi fare back home the following morning...of course....we have a 70 pct unemployment rate in Greece among 16/24 year olds....and sharing with those in lack is part of the Greek culture.... Quid pro quo.
One of the great gay love stories from ancient times was between the Emperor Hadrian, and a Greek youth, Antinous a relationship that flourished until the early death of Antinous...leaving Hadrian to pine for years, for his dead lover:
It´s nothing to be understood, really. As long as the younger is not too young (for legal and hopefully ethical reasons), it´s happening, like it or not. I don´t understand cross-dressing, but if it does it for people, why would I have anything to say about it?
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this thread, but I get the impression you view this as your only option?
Why not "pick on someone your own age" ???
I'm kind of on the fence on cross generational relationships.
I can see where some can work, and part of me views it as a little creepy.
I'd have to know it wasn't predatory.
I'm totally fine with cross-generational relationships (with the participants being of legal age). As I've often said, my only problem is with those who would stamp others who aren't interested "shallow"...despite having precisely the same standards.
While I certainly understand what a younger guys sees in an older guy (say 20 and 50), I have to say I have a hard time getting over the creepy factor of the older one. However, this thread is about sex between someone substantially older than 50 wanting sex with someone who could be the age of his grandson. I could understand the attraction to youth, but I have a hard time understanding the attraction the other way. Fetish does sound about right, but if it is just about sex and not any emotional attachment, the old guy is unlikely to care as long as he gets laid, I suppose.
Maybe we should get Vannies opinion since he seems to have so much luck hitting on the young orderlies at Shady Pines.
Last edited by sixthson; March 12th, 2014 at 07:51 AM.
Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.
I may not be expressing myself clearly if a few of you are assuming that I am criticising such relationships. I am not, neither am I saying I find it impossible for a loving relationship to form between two people of different generations.
This film seems to take the scenario of a young, extremely attractive man being sexually attracted to the less attractive physical appearances that are associated with much older men. Not having seen the whole film I can only assume that he has an emotional relationship with the old guy in the clip but from other short (unfortunately in French) clips it is obvious that everything starts from a completely physical desire for elderly men.
I can understand a younger man forming an emotional bond with an elderly guy (we are talking over 60yrs here) and that developing into a sexual one. It is the reverse that I am questioning. Is the sexual desire for "old" flesh a fetish and does it really exist or is it an invention for the sake of the film?
I am sure that we are now better informed knowing that even Greeks are mortal....but on the Greek island of Ikaria, life expectancy is just a tad longer encouraging me to believe that younger men can expect their loving relationships, with older men to last a little longer. ...and pedants are always welcome to entertain us....with their statistics...
It says it's a film by Bruce LaBruce. Any idea how old he is? LOL
"Old men and gin and bruise very easily", haha my favorite line in the clip.
Last edited by sixthson; March 12th, 2014 at 08:09 AM.
Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.
There are young men who discover through experience that older men can be much more intersting, and sexually fulfilling even, enjoying the flattery, and attention they receive from an older man often lacking in a man of their own age.
Here it is the youth that is attracted to the elderly, something that is also obviously not eternal. He can desire sexual relationships with the elderly but as soon as he forms a romantic one then that is doomed to last only as long as the elderly guy survives.
...anymore, than the duration of loving relationship between two people of similar age is determined by their age....
...clearly other factors enable a loving partnership to flourish...and last.
There is no minimum time element that should be factored into any loving relationship....to make it worth the while of the two partners....
My love affairs over many years were entered into as a result of a mutual attraction...at no time did I, or my partner determine that we should stay together for as long as we would live.....enjoy the moment.....I lost my first two (younger) partners to premature death....my current partner should outlast me....meantime, we enjoy our time together without obsessing over our huge difference in age.
Last edited by kallipolis; March 12th, 2014 at 08:56 AM.
Thanks for the replies so far.
Here at JUB we often comment on the "smoking hot" guy of 50 or the 60s and over who lust over the young flesh of 20yr olds, but this is the first time I have come across a situation where the young cute guy lusts over the wrinkled old body of a 70yr old.
Thus the reason for posting the video.
I doubt that the film will come out on general release but if any one finds a source for buying/watching it I would be grateful to know about it.
Alan, thanks for this thread for it has thrown up some interesting thoughts..I must go to work.
Interesting that you posted the video clip, I was looking for torrents or other possible downloads of the movie yesterday, as the premise of the film fascinates me.
I don't think it's all that weird for a person to be attracted to the other for whatever reason. Some pairings are more common the others but I've learned that anything is possible. I have known a friend that dated someone a lot older than he was (50+ year difference) and I don't find either of them "weird" at all.
'Nesting', or 'mating', finding someone with whom you'd like to build a life, and 'grow old with' - sharing all of life's joys, experiences, and surprises as they come - is quite another story, isn't it?
I've only ever slept with guys in the 35-50 age range, with one exception.
Oooh, you're so respectable/Mmmm, but I'm an animal
There are certain lines that human beings should never cross and this is one of them.
Rejoice and Behold the pungency of my nuts for I have arrived!
These situations, you can´t make general rules for all the couples, because each couple is different in everything.
There were quite some cases about young men with old women. I shouldn´t even start to say about old men with young women. Usually money is involved, but not always of course. Sometimes it´s just lust and sometimes true love.
edit: this is a nice read - http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/...ut-of-gay-men/
Last edited by aaggii; March 12th, 2014 at 11:10 AM.
The bolded bit is how I am. I don't know why I am attracted (nor am I really interested in finding out), I just am. I have been attracted to older men all across the board, not just the "silver daddy" type mentioned. I mean there is a multitude of different reasons on why I find certain men attractive. But it is generally older men.It is often demanded of younger men who prefer older men that they explain their choice, but most of the time they don’t know why they are attracted to older men, and those demands are often made by gay men who are age cohorts. They are continually confronted with disbelief that the relationship can be based on love and not some materialistic motives. Often fully capable of taking care of themselves, they find it hurtful that they are accused of looking for a sugar daddy.
The worst part about these types of relationships for me is the generalizations that come from others about them. People like to think they know more about them than they actually do.
Posts like this highlight the issue with some of us gay men liking older guys. I am 23 and my partner is 60 - for me this is fine, I love him dearly for the same reason all of you love your partners. I feel like I should be under no pressure to explain my attraction to older guys, in the same way as I should not have to explain my attraction to people of the same sex as me. I often feel like it is a second level of coming out of us guys who like much older men (and we are actually quite a large group) that most people are still hostile to - this includes other gay men.
In the past year I had the oppourtunity to hook up with two wonderful, younger men, both about 25 years my junior. I'm 45 and both guys were in their early 20's, very hot and guys I hired to work in my company. I didn't touch either of them though. I was the one to chicken out . But we keep in touch via text though.
In my world these relationships have been about gold diggers---plain and simple---it may have started out as an attraction but can a young guy be into an guy 30 plus years or more than him? Sure --guys can have sex appeal at any age--but a relationship is different.
I think Demi Moore found out the hard way when Aston dumped her for a woman his age--think she had a nervous breakdown---lol