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    Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    For the first time since 1979, the President of the United States and the President of Iran have communicated with each other.

    In 2011, President Obama tightened sanctions with Iran. Iran elected a new moderate President, Hassan Rouhani. With President Obama's tough stance on Iran and his diplomacy, Rouhani is backing down with the tough talk Iran's former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad indulged in and phoned him.

    Rouhani even went so far as to tell the President to "have a good day" to which the President thanked him and said "God be with you".

    Does this mean the two countries are warming to each other and a shift in relations?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sident-rouhani

    It's being called historic and a breakthrough. It is.

    Thanks President Obama!

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    Here's another opportunity for Pres. Obama to succeed. Naturally, the righties are already putting him down and dismissing the event as harmful to the country. Working for peace is a sign of weakness for the weak-minded.

    Thank you Mr. President!

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    I'll believe there's been change in Iran when the clergy gives up commanding thugs.

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    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Let's see how this goes.
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    It is promising. Rouhani also recently wished the Jews a blessed Rosh Hoshana, particularly those in Iran.

    The Devil is in the Details though. If Iran is at one and the same time pursuing an anti-western (not just anti-US) policies and is still determined to strangle any opposition to their jack-booted theocracy...it will be a long, long thawing process.

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    Now if he'd talk with the republicans.

    The two are even tweeting each other. A new love affair.

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Now if he'd talk with the republicans.
    Republicon talking point. Fox much?

    The two are even tweeting each other. A new love affair.
    Jealous? You'd rather we were at war. Fox much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Now if he'd talk with the republicans.

    The two are even tweeting each other. A new love affair.
    It must be galling.

    And so typical that your only response would be to trash it.

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Now if he'd talk with the republicans.

    The two are even tweeting each other. A new love affair.
    You can't talk to someone who refuses to listen to you, especially someone who is out to destroy you. This proves the congressional republicans are more against America than the Iranians.

    Tweeting each other? Great! Better than bomb bomb bombing them. Agreed?

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    And so typical that your only response would be to trash it.
    Notice it was only a tentative response, though.

    He hasn't yet been given his "here is why this is bad and Obama is wrong" talking points yet. Don't worry, he'll be back when he's been told what to think.

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    I am pleased that the rules of diplomacy, where warfare is the last option not the first, are being employed by the current administration. Republicans naturally have to fear successes in Syria or Iran if they come, that would make EVERYTHING they have ever said completely irrelevant. Plus their official governing policy is to hold their breath and stomp their feet. That does not jive with adult conversations between national leaders.

    P.S. Neigh Sayers referencing the religious leaders of Iran. Those Ayatollahs would not hesitate to eviscerate and then remove from power anyone they disagreed with in total. Consider that sanctions are really hurting their nation and they can no longer grin and bear it while looking around at the other nations whose people are standing up and killing their leaders. So they let Rouhani run and they are not squashing the guy for wishing Jews happiness and talking to Washington. It is, in fact, WHAT they want. To find a path out of the corner they have painted themselves in both regional and international politics.

    So for those of you who are doubters, don't be so damn sure the Iranians are playing the same end game. I still don't trust them and there is no way under God green earth a conversation with Obama will remove six decades of distrust fomented in the pentagon.

    The best possible outcome of the current situation is talk followed by action.

    P.S. On Syria Obama got Russia and China to sign onto a binding resoltion at the UN that does not mention force but does not exclude force either and is written under the 7th chapter which allows for use of force to enforce a binding resolution.

    So in reality the thing republicans are twisting their hands and sweating over is the idea Obama would solve issues that are used to fund the Military industrial complex which is the only national issue that most of america still turns to republican leaders for guidance on and about. If they lose that they have NOTHING to offer. (those they turn to are not tea party terrorists either in John McCain and Lindsey graham.
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    So the president over there is being allowed a loose leash. That just tells me they've smarted up enough to do a North Korea: talk nice, get some concessions, then go back to business as usual.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Yeah, I thought ultimate authority was the Ayatollah?
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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    So the president over there is being allowed a loose leash. That just tells me they've smarted up enough to do a North Korea: talk nice, get some concessions, then go back to business as usual.
    So ?

    Like I said, we wont slack off militarily on a planned response and area presence. What other track do we have? Shall we starve the country to death until they have chaos, massive famine and revolt? Would that be a preferable outcome or would the possibility of them actually making some concessions work out as well?

    I have to give a disclaimer, I am one who does not believe them actually acquiring a bomb would be all that monumental.
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    If they are just making nice that's better than war monger McCain's solution.

    It's great the current President of the United States uses diplomacy first, unlike his predecessor.

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    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    What I want to know is...did Rouhani reverse the charges?

    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    Oh you mean like when Obama's intelligence did not back up the WMD charges after he had very publicly made them so he felt and did go to war with a country based on a lie.... that was Obama right... who killed four thousand Americans in Iraq? SONOFABITCH

    Any coward that would continue going to war knowing the reasons are false is not a leader nor a diplomat.

    Unlike those good wholesome republicans who found a diplomatic solution even after threats of military conflict and EVEN though is allowed haters to cast dispersion still had the conviction and guts of leadership not to invoke military force just to not acknowledge being wrong.

    Yup it is a damn good thing
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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    That's a nice story bro. One problem is that not one bomb has been dropped on Syria and we have one UN Security Council resolution requiring Syria to eliminate their chemical weapons and Syria has agreed to sign on to the Chemical Weapons Treaty. Seems to me that things are moving in the exact direction they should be and I guarantee you they wouldn't be where they are today without the IMMINENT THREAT of military force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    That's a nice story bro. One problem is that not one bomb has been dropped on Syria and we have one UN Security Council resolution requiring Syria to eliminate their chemical weapons and Syria has agreed to sign on to the Chemical Weapons Treaty. Seems to me that things are moving in the exact direction they should be and I guarantee you they wouldn't be where they are today without the IMMINENT THREAT of military force.
    There is truth in that. In some cultures, you can sit down and talk. In others, especially tribal ones, you first have to put up a show of strength.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    You can always find something bad to say about the President, in any context, no matter what the subject is..... correct Springer?

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    I agree.

    But, thank God that someone is trying diplomacy in both cases, rather than starting two wars.

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I think most of you forget that Iran is a theocracy and that Rouhani is merely a figurehead leader, the real power lies with Ali Khamenei.

    Diplomacy is great. Too bad Obama did not try that first with Syria instead of drawing red lines and threatening military force.
    Uh...that was the diplomacy that brought Russia and Syria to the table. Were you away while that was happening by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Oh you mean like when Obama's intelligence did not back up the WMD charges after he had very publicly made them so he felt and did go to war with a country based on a lie.... that was Obama right... who killed four thousand Americans in Iraq? SONOFABITCH

    Any coward that would continue going to war knowing the reasons are false is not a leader nor a diplomat.

    Unlike those good wholesome republicans who found a diplomatic solution even after threats of military conflict and EVEN though is allowed haters to cast dispersion still had the conviction and guts of leadership not to invoke military force just to not acknowledge being wrong.

    Yup it is a damn good thing
    Obama never showed proof that Assad was responsible for the gas attacks. Obama is a wimp, out out maneuvered by Putin who saved his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    You can always find something bad to say about the President, in any context, no matter what the subject is..... correct Springer?
    Are facts that hard to swallow Bob?

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    Re: Iran's President Rouhani phones President Obama

    ^ Wrong.

    He did prove it.

    Russia caved and admitted that Syria had used chemicals. It was what led to a way of getting Syria to comply.

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    Foreign governments don't make deals with US VP's.

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