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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Good exposition.



    You don't get it: anything Democrats would vote for, the Tea Party will automatically vote against merely because Democrats like it.

    And Boehner can't win no matter what he does.
    So whats your your idea to manipulate the tea-party and weaken the GOP? The best option was to take on Boehner's speakership but it seems the GOP is realizing that would happen sooner the longer this stalemate draws out.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    Are you going to face the fact that you believed the lies about Obama "shutting down" the Amber Alert System. It's disgusting the way you ignore truth when it's pointed out to you.

    We are waiting for you to acknowledge that you were wrong at LEAST this once.
    The Administration did shut down the participation of the federal government in the Amber Alert system. I was not wrong.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Administration did shut down the participation of the federal government in the Amber Alert system. I was not wrong.
    That is patently false. The only thing shut down was the informational website provided by the DoJ. Everything else continued as normal since it dealt with the safety of people. Here is a link to your favorite news source that explains in a way that even Republicans can understand.

    Now if your contention is that the federal government currently isn't paying money to support AMBER Alert system, you would be right. However, you can blame Congress for that one and not the Administration since the Administration has no money currently to fund any of these programs. So again, you've misplaced your faux outrage and has once again shown that you take no joy in learning the facts of a situation.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    I'm glad the Obama Administration brought back someone to man the site. Closing it was a political stunt.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I'm glad the Obama Administration brought back someone to man the site. Closing it was a political stunt.
    Jack stops receiving his paycheck.

    Jack stops paying his gardener.

    I accuse Jack of being malicious and spiteful to his gardener.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    I got a strange email this AM. It's from democrats.org. It seems there are 17 republican congresscritters that will go along with the Dems. So they are asking for a vote to make Pelosi the Speaker of the House. The only URL I have is to a donation page that has my info in it. This would be great if they could pull it off. WTF?
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    ^^^

    It's the dream of old lady pelosi. Fake story.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Ya got a source? You do this all the time.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    You first.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    If you would learn to read you would see that I said "the only URL I have is to my donation page" Now if you want to make a donation in my name I will give you the URL.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    It's called propaganda.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    I got a strange email this AM. It's from democrats.org. It seems there are 17 republican congresscritters that will go along with the Dems. So they are asking for a vote to make Pelosi the Speaker of the House. The only URL I have is to a donation page that has my info in it. This would be great if they could pull it off. WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Ya got a source? You do this all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You first.


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    ^^^

    It's the dream of old lady pelosi. Fake story.
    National Journal: Do you wish for the chance for the speaker position again?

    Pelosi: No, that's not my thing. I did that.

    Pelosi: I Don't Want to Be Speaker Again (National Journal; August 29, 2013)

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Are you really sitting there with a straight face and saying that THIS:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Administration did shut down the participation of the federal government in the Amber Alert system. I was not wrong.
    is the same thing as THIS:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama shuts down the Amber Alert system but keeps his golf courses open.

    The man has no shame.
    and that the FIRST statement is what you meant all the time?

    Really?

    REALLY?

    If so, it's YOU who has absolutely NO shame

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    The Obama Admin reopened the site and participation. You don't reopen something unless it's been closed.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Obama Admin reopened the site and participation. You don't reopen something unless it's been closed.
    Integrity = fail

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Obama Admin reopened the site
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama shuts down the Amber Alert system
    Just so we're CLEAR.......
    You are claiming there is no daylight between these two sentiments?

    I would love to hear you answer the question directly.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    Just so we're CLEAR.......
    You are claiming there is no daylight between these two sentiments?

    I would love to hear you answer the question directly.
    You know he won't. When the moment comes to answer a question like that with "yes" or "no", he disappears for the night and reappears again the next day to post unrelated flaming statements in other topics. He did the same with me last night when I asked him to compare Harry Reid with Bachman and Santorum. He never did, which of course is as good as an admission that those two aberrations are so out there that even he can't formulate good enough defense for them.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvFindsAndyHardy View Post
    Just so we're CLEAR.......
    You are claiming there is no daylight between these two sentiments?

    I would love to hear you answer the question directly.
    Are you wanting me to say that Obama did not shut down each state's system? Ok, I'll say that. Obama shut down the federal Amber Alert system and then reopened it under public pressure.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Are you wanting me to say that Obama did not shut down each state's system? Ok, I'll say that. Obama shut down the federal Amber Alert system and then reopened it under public pressure.
    No he didn't. The informational website amberalert.gov was shutdown. Everything else about the system ran as it should.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You first.
    Stop trolling. We're all tired of it.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Are you wanting me to say that Obama did not shut down each state's system? Ok, I'll say that. Obama shut down the federal Amber Alert system and then reopened it under public pressure.
    It was pointed out to you that the system was never shut down. It was pointed out to you directly. You are currently lying to the people who already know you're lying. What the fuck, Jack?

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    well the GOP caved. next crisis.
    pretty soon the GOP is gonna be without a speaker and without a crisis. what will they do?
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    So whats your your idea to manipulate the tea-party and weaken the GOP? The best option was to take on Boehner's speakership but it seems the GOP is realizing that would happen sooner the longer this stalemate draws out.
    The Tea Partites can't be manipulated -- in order to be manipulated, one has to be reasonably in touch with reality.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Obama Admin reopened the site and participation. You don't reopen something unless it's been closed.
    So the entire Amber Alert system consists of nothing but a web site?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    well the GOP caved. next crisis.
    pretty soon the GOP is gonna be without a speaker and without a crisis. what will they do?
    The GOP without the speaker they already have will be an improvement for them. No one has any respect for the man, including members of his own party. Complete failure.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Public opinion is turning progressively away from the Republican Party, as the shutdown proceeds.

    An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released late today reports the Republican Party has been "badly damaged" by the shutdown. 53% of Americans are now blaming the Republicans for the fiasco, while only 31% blame the president - a 22% gap. Moreover, the popularity of both the Republican Party and the tea party are at record lows - 24% and 21%, respectively.

    “That is an ideological boomerang,” Bill McInturff, the GOP pollster who conducts the NBC/WSJ poll along with Democratic pollster Peter Hart, told NBC. “As the debate has been going on, if there is a break, there is a break against the Republican position.”
    The president's approval has remained stable since the shutdown, and there are signs that Democrats may get a boost from the shutdown's political effects.
    Voters were 8 points more likely to say they'd prefer a Democratic-controlled Congress over a Republican-controlled Congress, a 5-point shift toward the Democrats since last month.
    Support for the new health care law, the touchstone of the government shutdown, rose a net 8 points from September, while the belief that government should do more to solve problems was up 8 points from June.

    Not looking good for Republicans at the moment. And, the longer this goes on, the more it is going to hurt them.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    ^ The term, "Biting off your nose to spite your face" certainly comes to mind!

    Too bad the rest of "Us" have to Pay for it!

    However, there still seems to be some Hope, that as the current Repubilican'ts continue to waffle, and collapse, pouting and crying their little eyes out, over not getting enough "respect" (as though they Deserve any), there is a glimmer that WE might, maybe, perhaps, come out of this O.K., THANKS to The Pres., and his Dems, standing up for the RIGHT (no pun intended) things to do for ALL of Us!

    Keep your fingers crossed!

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    Public opinion is turning progressively away from the Republican Party, as the shutdown proceeds.

    An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released late today reports the Republican Party has been "badly damaged" by the shutdown. 53% of Americans are now blaming the Republicans for the fiasco, while only 31% blame the president - a 22% gap. Moreover, the popularity of both the Republican Party and the tea party are at record lows - 24% and 21%, respectively.

    Not looking good for Republicans at the moment. And, the longer this goes on, the more it is going to hurt them.
    Kinda blows your point.

    Americans' Satisfaction With U.S. Gov't Drops to New Low
    Democrats remain most likely to be satisfied, but much less so than in September

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/165371/am...s-new-low.aspx


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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Kinda blows your point.
    No, your data is old - and it doesn't even address the specific question of the shutdown.

    The data in my post was just revealed late today by NBC and the Wall Street Journal.

    You guys are losing the battle for public opinion by quite a substantial margin. You can continue to selectively believe only that data which you want to be true. But, that didn't help you in the last presidential election, did it?
    Last edited by T-Rexx; October 10th, 2013 at 07:08 PM.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Kinda blows your point.

    Americans' Satisfaction With U.S. Gov't Drops to New Low
    Democrats remain most likely to be satisfied, but much less so than in September

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/165371/am...s-new-low.aspx

    Your link shows the public's view of how the government is being run. T-Rexx's link shows who they blame more for why they feel that way. It's an apples to oranges comparison you're making there Jack.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Ted Cruz gets heckled at the Value Voters Summit:



    Several people had to be escorted from the hall.

    Things not going so well for the darling of the tea party.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    No, your data is old - and it doesn't even address the specific question of the shutdown.

    The data in my post was just revealed late today by NBC and the Wall Street Journal.

    You guys are losing the battle for public opinion by quite a substantial margin. You can continue to selectively believe only that data which you want to be true. But, that didn't help you in the last presidential election, did it?
    Data from October 10, 2013 is old?

    I don't think anyone is winning the battle. All the politicians in DC suck as evidenced by all the polls I've seen or heard about.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Republicans offered a new ransom for the government operations department in the last Whitehouse and terrorist meeting. With funding levels cut by only targeting Obama specific programs and easing the spending cuts on republican darlings like the defense industry. That is the stick associated with the republican carrot of a debt ceiling extension.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Your signature is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Your signature is hilarious.
    Lol... a all time favorite movie for its impact and content. It changed film in many ways. That and Jules was a Bad Mutha Fucka... you can tell by his wallet... the one with bad mutha fucka on it...
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I don't think anyone is winning the battle.
    Well one side is definitely LOSING...

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    ^^

    Yes, the American people.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Data from October 10, 2013 is old?
    From your own link: "These most recent data are based on an Oct. 3-6 Gallup poll"

    Last week's news. And it doesn't even address the issue at hand.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Here lets put this in midwestern red stater engrish....

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    I believe in Bigfoot.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    Yes, the American people.
    Your entire sad spin on this situation has been to talk about it like an act of nature. Nothing could be done, government just shut down. But SOMEONE shut it down because the political process wasn't working in their favor. Someone in particular IS to blame for why the American people are suffering. And the American people KNOW who that is, and will remember.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    I bet we'd be better off with a large Sasquatch delegation replacing the Tea Partites in the House.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Where is that cracks in the democratic party thread... lol

    THAT was a quote from a republican representative. Funny I dont recall Democratic members of congress comparing other democrats with jihadist in suicide vest......

    Still that article admits the right isnt smart enough to fall apart on this issue anytime soon. Then lays out some potential outcomes.
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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    ^^^

    Nunes is a WND freak.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Another consequence:

    Pulling Aid Away, Shutdown Deepens Indians’ Distress [<Link to NYTimes article]

    The Bureau of Indian Affairs, which provides a vast sweep of services for more than 1.7 million American Indians and Alaska Natives, has kept essential programs, like federal police and firefighting services, running. But it has stopped financing tribal governments and the patchwork of programs and grants that form the thin blanket of support for reservations racked by poverty and other ills.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Noam Scheiber game-plans the pre-default ending:

    The Inevitable Republican Collapse That Will End the Shutdown [<Link to New Republic article]

    (Discusses Reid-McConnell compromise)

    As the minutes tick away toward default this Thursday, the Reid-McConnell arrangement will be the only deal in town. With no alternative to avoiding a default, House Speaker John Boehner will add some small face-saving alteration and bring it to the floor, where it will pass with several dozen Republican votes and a large majority of Democrats. In doing so, Boehner will reprise the same formula he deployed in resolving last year’s fiscal cliff fight. I know this because it’s how the GOP has gotten out of pretty much every self-inflicted PR disaster of the Obama era, and it’s where the best reporting available suggests we’re headed today.

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^^

    Nunes is a WND freak.
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

    This WND??? Explain please.

    Isn't WND where you get most of your talking point stories from, btw?

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

    This WND??? Explain please.

    Isn't WND where you get most of your talking point stories from, btw?
    No no no no no! It just happens to match them often! No other relation, Scott's honor!

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    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Oh good Lord.

    Now Sarah Palin has joined Rafael Cruz to protest the government shutdown, with the Confederate Flag as a symbol. How stupid can two people get? Rafael Cruz along with the other right wing republicans wanted the shutdown they're now protesing.

    Two of the biggest publicity whores in the country are at it again. The Confederate Flag? A reminder of Civil War and slavery.



    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...erans-shutdown

    The country isn't buying it. The republican party is in a shambles. The Million Vet march organizers condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the tea party for exploiting the shutdown for their own gain.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2013/10...tea-party.html

    Here she's begging for money:

    https://secure.piryx.com/donate/Muvq...uz/palinsplash

    Is there no end to the shameful greed of these creatures?

  50. #350

    Re: Countdown to Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

    This WND??? Explain please.

    Isn't WND where you get most of your talking point stories from, btw?
    It may be your special place but not mine. It's fun to find the wackos in WND, Media Matters, Daily Kos.

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